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by mandala499
Sat Nov 17, 2018 6:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: CRAIC CR929 discussion thread
Replies: 523
Views: 51085

Re: CRAIC CR929 discussion thread

Airbus has an A320 Final Assembly Line in China and until recently their output was dedicated to the Chinese market, however they are now starting deliveries to other Asian operators. PK-AZA with Indonesia Air Asia was assembled in China (test rego B-508L) Has been doing quite well, with fewer snag...

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by mandala499
Sat Nov 17, 2018 4:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3187
Views: 610197

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang

A broken aoa sensor won't trip the mcas system into action if there's no load factor greater than 1. The radar24 data doesn't indicate a sharp turn or rapid vertical acceleration just prior to the fatal dive. Based on what they're telling us, mcas doesn't look to be the failure here based on the pu...

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by mandala499
Fri Nov 16, 2018 5:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: CRAIC CR929 discussion thread
Replies: 523
Views: 51085

Re: CRAIC CR929 discussion thread

I will never ever step into any plane that is made in china. Look at MA60 case. Even for free.. I suggest think carefully about A320s and 737s... as some are assembled in China.... and some of those are flying for non-Chinese airlines. :) Oh hang on, 1 is flying in Indonesia!!! Be careful... you mi...

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by mandala499
Fri Nov 16, 2018 1:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3187
Views: 610197

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang

PixelFlight, yes, even with 3 ADRs, the 332 had it's accidental stuka moments, and the ability to disable any ADR is there, and possibly have saved many many flights. The NG can getaway with 2 because it's not so dependent on the ADRs as one can still fly by ignoring the faulty ADR... MAX's MCAS cha...

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by mandala499
Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rewinged a320 family
Replies: 95
Views: 15213

Re: Rewinged a320 family

A317neo as counterpart to e190, A318neo, A319neo, A320neo, a321neo and a322neo. A317NEO? A318NEO? A319NEO? Well, let's not forget Airbus is now selling A220-100 and A220-300... which is A317 and A319 territory... if they see a need then they'll do A220-200. Why do a rewing when you already got a co...

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by mandala499
Fri Nov 16, 2018 11:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing’s automatic trim for the 737 MAX was not disclosed to the Pilots
Replies: 295
Views: 46448

Re: Boeing’s automatic trim for the 737 MAX was not disclosed to the Pilots

When I went from the 747 classic to the 744 I saw a massive reduction in the detail of information that was made available to the crew. Just like from the 732 to the 73Classic. Massive reduction... I find the Boeing FCOMs as really lacking in information these days. Then looking at the maintenance ...

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by mandala499
Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:56 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3187
Views: 610197

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang

Under ICAO rules, an interim report is due within a month after the accident. Given that some foreigners have died on that flight, and given that a relatively new aircraft is involved, I guess Indonesia honors these rules even if it isn't an international flight. The same apply under Indonesian rul...

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by mandala499
Mon Nov 12, 2018 6:55 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3187
Views: 610197

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangal Pinang

Something we need to have a look at here: https://leehamnews.com/2018/11/07/boeing-issues-737-operations-manual-bulletin-after-lion-air-accident/ Any such Automatic trim action which doesn’t makes sense has the feel of a runaway pitch trim which is a very common emergency simulator training scenario...

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by mandala499
Fri Nov 09, 2018 7:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3187
Views: 610197

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangal Pinang

Given a known delta of 20 degrees max error in the aoa the trim would have obly commanded 20deg nose down max (likely 18.5 or so). The final seconds of the flight were MUCH steeper than that. Sorry, unless there's a pitch limit logic within the STS, if you're nose level, AOA is 20deg, it'll put the...

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by mandala499
Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3187
Views: 610197

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangal Pinang

It's not acceptable anymore that recorded data cannot be retrieved easier because the storage hardware gets lost. Why not constantly radio them to some neutral place? It's only been a week and people are talking like it has been years... Geez... Anyway, wanna send the recorded data? How much data d...

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by mandala499
Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:01 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3187
Views: 610197

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangal Pinang

Pilots know runaway stab trim and the procedures... Pilots know flight with unreliable airspeed and the procedures... But how many until yesterday, know how to deal with both unreliable airspeed and runaway stab trim at the same time. And let's not assume it's day VMC at the crash location just beca...

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by mandala499
Thu Nov 08, 2018 3:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3187
Views: 610197

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangal Pinang

The flight number continued until 31Oct.
Since, JT610 has been replaced with JT216.

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by mandala499
Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3187
Views: 610197

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangal Pinang

I'm curious why the system would be allowed to cause "uncommanded horizontal stabilizer trim movement" when the data are known (or suspected) by the system to be erroneous. Would it not be safer to have the system reject the data, not cause uncommanded trim movements, and raise an alert t...

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by mandala499
Wed Nov 07, 2018 4:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3187
Views: 610197

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangal Pinang

We would have seen reports of similar issues none the less, wouldn't we? We didn't see reports of A330 ADIRUs going bonkers and turned the airliner into a Stuka bomber until the Qantas ones... after how many years? :) 737NG -- If the stab trim starts to go nose down, the first thing a pilot will in...

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by mandala499
Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:56 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3187
Views: 610197

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangal Pinang

I managed to get bits of the previous post flight maintenance reports from various sources. It looks like the unreliable airspeed indications from the last 4 flights may not have been caused by a single generated warning/fault on the sensor detection (ie: not purely a pitot issue).Am now getting inf...

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by mandala499
Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:30 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Active Side Stick - Initial thoughts?
Replies: 121
Views: 10357

Re: Active Side Stick - Initial thoughts?

There's an excellent AF447 timeline here. It includes CVR transcript, instrument indications, sidestick deflection and so on. If memory serves it was compiled by Pihero. I made that actually, and sent it to Pihero for discussions. I think version 14 is the one where I put the PF and PM in the wrong...

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by mandala499
Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3187
Views: 610197

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangal Pinang

Aprently the the Pilots had reported the problem with caculating air speed issue on previous flight and the maintenance crew did nothing about it . See article below for full details. Can you point out where in the article that said the maintenance crew did nothing about the problems? I can't seem ...

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by mandala499
Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3187
Views: 610197

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangal Pinang

My point, a small independent GPS showing ground speed, heading, location, elevations (for aviation) seems to me essential for any sort of transportation. For navigational purposes, I would agree, and the Max has it. But for airplane handling? No, because GPS give ground speed, and airplanes fly wi...

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by mandala499
Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3187
Views: 610197

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangal Pinang

The corkscrew motion I mentioned previously can been seen in the track from around the 500 second mark (relative to 2018-10-28 23:21:00Z). Vmo (red horizontal line is at 340 KTAS where Vmo is technically 340 KCAS) was almost reached in the turn after takeoff, TAS increased until it passed Vmo in th...

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by mandala499
Sun Nov 04, 2018 3:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3187
Views: 610197

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangal Pinang

1) is anybody aware of any declaration/remark made by the pilot of the sunday (Bali-Jakarta) flight? I'm astonished that they've been talking about that crucial flight for a week without making public anything from the crew. That flight is now being put under the same investigation as the crashed f...

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by mandala499
Sun Nov 04, 2018 5:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3187
Views: 610197

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangal Pinang

The public backlash continues and kneejerk reaction has turned into a circus... All 737Max are checked... ramp-checked by the government.... in the name of safety... by bringing all these people onto an active apron... :banghead: http://i66.tinypic.com/zbfhv.jpg That ladies and gents, is "safet...

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by mandala499
Sat Nov 03, 2018 7:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3187
Views: 610197

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangal Pinang

Yes, but there is also this version of the log where the corrective action fields are empty. Who has photographed/scanned this version and did it happen before or after crash? Or more likely, is the document forged? Is there another version other than the 3 posted in the Air Current article? ( http...

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by mandala499
Sat Nov 03, 2018 6:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3187
Views: 610197

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangal Pinang

I suggest that everyone who is looking for the actual cause of this accident remain a bit leery of information and guidance coming from publicity agents. There was another thread at this site where a PR guy dominated the conversation and consistently led the conversation to a dead end. I don't know...

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by mandala499
Sat Nov 03, 2018 6:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3187
Views: 610197

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangal Pinang

Earlier upthread I mentioned the wreckage would be at a depth which could be reached by divers. I believe early reports said 30 metres. But I also saw other ones mentioning 50 metres. This is quite a difference in diving, 40 metres or deeper is really for the specialised professionals. My deepest d...

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by mandala499
Sat Nov 03, 2018 10:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3187
Views: 610197

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangal Pinang

According to this media, in the previous flight (DPS - CGK), the pilot declared pan pan only 5 minutes after take off and requested return. But later he cancelled it and continue to CGK. The request to return has been determined to be untrue. But... they did have unreliable airspeed / altitude, but...

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by mandala499
Sat Nov 03, 2018 6:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3187
Views: 610197

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangal Pinang

Finally I can get a day of rest... so here goes... The BBC piece noted above contains the following: "Aviation consultant Gerry Soejatman told the BBC the MAX 8 had been experiencing problems since it was introduced, including problems maintaining a level flight" never heard of this proble...

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by mandala499
Sun Oct 22, 2017 3:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus CEO warns of significant impact from corruption probes
Replies: 327
Views: 61664

Re: Airbus CEO warns of significant impact from corruption probes

Why do I have the feeling that Garuda's A330ceo deal (and GA's 320 for Citilink) is going to be mentioned? Last year, UKSFO has already cited RR conducting "questionable actions" with regards to middlemen. Garuda's former CEO is now named a suspect for corruption, but the middlemen is stil...

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by mandala499
Sat Oct 21, 2017 4:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Asia Depressurization Incident
Replies: 28
Views: 6824

Re: Air Asia Depressurization Incident

So, during the emergency descent, a passenger stands up thinking he has no oxygen in his mask, looking for other masks on another seat... the cabin crew, who were in their respective galleys at this time, sees that, and screams from the rear galley, "fasten your seat belts! fastern your seat be...

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by mandala499
Thu Sep 28, 2017 4:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Has Boeing taken the 737 too far?
Replies: 83
Views: 18868

Re: Has Boeing taken the 737 too far?

I don't see how someone can hate the 737-10. How can you hate the idea of a plane? It is a relatively short stretch adding a couple of rows to the 737-9 with a modified gear. I don't understand why emotions like hatred would come out over such a design unless that person is John Leahy who sees the ...

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by mandala499
Wed Sep 27, 2017 2:55 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Malindo Air ends 737 MAX operations
Replies: 15
Views: 8500

Re: Malindo Air ends 737 MAX operations

That just speaks of poor operational planning. In a way, yes, but the Indonesian regulator has a lot to do with that. The haphazard knee jerk reactions by the regulators after the Air Asia crash (thanks to the then minister) has really made it extremely difficult for airlines to plan. In 2015 the m...

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by mandala499
Wed Sep 27, 2017 2:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Has Boeing taken the 737 too far?
Replies: 83
Views: 18868

Re: Has Boeing taken the 737 too far?

There are so many amended type certificates and supplement type certificates that it is most certainly not the same airplane. It is the same type certificate, but that doesn't make it the same plane. For comparison the Bombardier CL600 challenger has the same type certificate as the CRJ1000 even th...

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by mandala499
Tue Sep 26, 2017 12:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Malindo Air ends 737 MAX operations
Replies: 15
Views: 8500

Re: Malindo Air ends 737 MAX operations

The reasons for these new aircraft "moving around the fleet" are, but not limited to: 1. Taxation and lease requirements. 2. Indonesian regulatory requirements. To get aircraft imported is easy, to get it approved for operations, is a different animal. Sometimes, an aircraft destined for L...

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by mandala499
Fri Jan 13, 2017 12:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Tigerair cancels Bali flights 100's stranded.
Replies: 27
Views: 6668

Re: Tigerair cancels Bali flights 100's stranded.

TT's flight permits here are charter flights, that means they cannot sell tickets that are NOT part of a package tour/IT, ie: you cannot sell "tickets only". One-way tickets or 2-way tickets are secondary issues in this case. If the flights are using VA's bilateral quotas, then, the flight...

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by mandala499
Tue Oct 11, 2016 6:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Did Aeroflot Russian Airlines ever fly to Denpasar/Bali?
Replies: 4
Views: 1320

Re: Did Aeroflot Russian Airlines ever fly to Denpasar/Bali?

They served CGK a long time ago, but not DPS. The Russia-Bali Market is literally owned by QR, EK and SQ on the scheduled. On the charters, well, they're all gone now I think... and a newcomer to DPS is, LOT of all airlines...

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by mandala499
Sun Sep 04, 2016 12:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A320 Family Developments, Post NEO
Replies: 42
Views: 13849

Re: Airbus A320 Family Developments, Post NEO

Rather than having A321 with tag on names on them, why not just make the family line to be:
A319
A320
A321 for A321-100
A322 for A321-200, and for the NEO, use this for the A321neoLR
A323 for a larger A321 with newer wing etc... :)

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by mandala499
Thu Jul 14, 2016 11:22 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: A320 both ailerons deflected upwards after T/D
Replies: 14
Views: 3795

Re: A320 both ailerons deflected upwards after T/D

https://youtu.be/eZNvnOaJkKw?t=1m1s
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One thing I noticed is that the ailerons only come up to dump lift after the aircraft's nose wheel have come down... or after reversers were deployed, as can be seen here.
https://youtu.be/eZNvnOaJkKw?t=1m1s

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by mandala499
Sat Jul 09, 2016 8:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Egypt Air 804 Paris-Cairo Missing
Replies: 1187
Views: 74906

Re: Egypt Air 804 Paris-Cairo Missing Part 5

Btw, does anyone remember the "it was terrorism" calls from the time that the accident happened? I'd like to publicly shame the parties reporting such theories as a certainty. It is unethical to peddle non-truths in an effort to advance one's own agenda. Whether that's diverting attention...

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by mandala499
Sat Jul 09, 2016 7:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Does any approach come close to rivaling Hong Kong Kai Tak?
Replies: 59
Views: 13211

Re: Does any approach come close to rivaling Hong Kong Kai Tak?

Macau runway 16, is probably the nearest to Kai Tak... in terms of geography and maneuvers... instead of a right turn, it's a left turn, about the same amount of Kai Tak at 54 degrees (Kai Tak was 47), except that your turn start a bit higher, and therefore a bit further (2NM instead of 1NM)... and ...

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by mandala499
Mon Jul 04, 2016 5:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Smoking on planes!
Replies: 55
Views: 15451

Re: Smoking on planes!

Well, technically you're on foreign soil when entering a foreign plane, so your Dutch law right might not apply there. Some countries will only respect that once the door is closed. Am a smoker, and I'm happy that today's flights are non-smoking. I believe it also violates the ICAO standard on infl...

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by mandala499
Sun Jun 26, 2016 2:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's the biggest airport that is either all-Boeing or all-Airbus?
Replies: 52
Views: 9839

Re: What's the biggest airport that is either all-Boeing or all-Airbus?

I'd say the two most obvious answers are the ones nobody's mentioned .... TLS and BFI/RNT .... ;-) The issue with RNT is the 737s leave RNT, but never come back. (or pretty rarely come back.) BFI has service from 5X, which brings A300s in on a regular basis. PAE has a bunch of MRO work at the field...

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by mandala499
Wed Jun 22, 2016 10:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: GA May Halt CGK-AMS-LGW, Runway Not Strong Enough
Replies: 64
Views: 20773

Re: GA May Halt CGK-AMS-LGW, Runway Not Strong Enough

Flying to DOH/DXB/AUH can be done profitably without having to bust the runway pavement strength limit due to the lower weights... because you don't need to carry as much fuel than if you're going to AMS or LHR..

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by mandala499
Wed Jun 22, 2016 2:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Garuda Indonesia to serve Los Angeles via Tokyo
Replies: 43
Views: 7524

Re: Garuda Indonesia to serve Los Angeles via Tokyo

For passengers from LAX that will going to Jakarta there are many flight options connecting DPS-CGK vv. Oh God, that is so going add fuel to the CGK vs DPS debate for GA long haul ops that has been going on for 3 decades. Why would I go on a 2 stop if a 1 stop is available for the same price if not...

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by mandala499
Fri Jun 17, 2016 5:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: EU lifts ban on Iran Air, Lion Air
Replies: 15
Views: 4138

Re: EU lifts ban on Iran Air, Lion Air

Wonder if Lion Air now will start operations to any place in Europe as they now are allowed to fly in EU airspace and have new build A330-300s in their fleet. Have Lion ever stated any interest in serving Europe? If not, why was they band from flying into EU airspace? Indonesia as a country is bann...

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by mandala499
Mon Jun 13, 2016 3:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Shanghai Pudong International Airport Explosion
Replies: 9
Views: 12856

RE: Shanghai Pudong International Airport Explosion

If you noticed in the videos of the explosion, people were listening to an announcement, and that ground staff had their hands over their ears before the explosion...

To me, it looks like firecrackers gone wrong... not a bomb...

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by mandala499
Mon Jun 06, 2016 7:01 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Theft On Flights
Replies: 12
Views: 2861

RE: Theft On Flights

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/pwm2txlhopper" class="quote" target="_blank">pwm2txlhopper</a> (<a href="#10" class="quote">Reply 10</a>):<br/><i>I learned a hard lesson about ...

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by mandala499
Tue May 31, 2016 9:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737 MAX 10 Details Emerge
Replies: 167
Views: 41666

RE: Boeing 737 MAX 10 Details Emerge

I was laughing at the auditorium in <acronym title="Hamburg - Finkenwerder (XFW / EDHI), Germany">XFW</acronym> this morning when Leahy mentioned "Mad MAX"... He claims to not want to choke cute babies (referring to the C-Series) too... <table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr>...

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by mandala499
Sun May 22, 2016 11:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Egypt Air 804 Paris-Cairo Missing
Replies: 1187
Views: 74906

RE: Egypt Air 804 Paris-Cairo Missing Part 4

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/LTU330" class="quote" target="_blank">LTU330</a> (<a href="#134" class="quote">Reply 134</a>):<br/><i>At this moment I cannot visualise in my he...

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by mandala499
Sun May 22, 2016 8:24 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AFA Urges JLo To Cancel ATL Concert For QR
Replies: 93
Views: 14942

RE: AFA Urges JLo To Cancel ATL Concert For QR

If <acronym title="Atlanta - Hartsfield-Jackson Int (The William B Hartsfield / Municipal / Candler Field) (ATL / KATL), USA - Georgia">ATL</acronym> is <b>THAT</b>important for <acronym title="Qatar Airways">QR</acronym>, <acronym title="Qatar Airways">QR</acronym> can replace <acronym title="Delta...

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by mandala499
Sun May 22, 2016 7:22 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Egypt Air 804 Paris-Cairo Missing
Replies: 1187
Views: 74906

RE: Egypt Air 804 Paris-Cairo Missing Part 4

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/Mir" class="quote" target="_blank">Mir</a> (<a href="#130" class="quote">Reply 130</a>):<br/><i>Air from the air conditioning duct is only used ...

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by mandala499
Sun May 22, 2016 5:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Egypt Air 804 Paris-Cairo Missing
Replies: 1187
Views: 74906

RE: Egypt Air 804 Paris-Cairo Missing Part 4

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/zeke" class="quote" target="_blank">zeke</a> (<a href="#124" class="quote">Reply 124</a>):<br/><i>The ECAM AVIONICS SMOKE means smoke has been d...

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