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by mandala499
Thu Mar 28, 2019 3:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus Takes Aim At Inconsistent Pilot Training Quality
Replies: 54
Views: 7878

Re: Airbus Takes Aim At Inconsistent Pilot Training Quality

Is it a bad time for Airbus to raise concerns about training standards in poor Asian countries? Or maybe a good time? Good time... They snapped up Lion Air's training academy a few years back and still going. Even whilst students are learning the basics on Cessnas, they will be coached towards the ...

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by mandala499
Wed Mar 27, 2019 1:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Garuda to keep 737MAX order, add 787s in agreement with Boeing
Replies: 162
Views: 43696

Re: Official: Garuda cancels remaining 737MAX orders

GA is getting the A330neo to replace their current 330 fleet. The 777 is too big, so more 330neo or 787s to go for the longer legs... who knows, they might make CGK-LHR work with the 787 *cough* The 737NG will eventually be replaced. 320NEO may replace the proposed Max (which is likely to be swapped...

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by mandala499
Wed Mar 27, 2019 9:25 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3187
Views: 610155

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang

1.8- That explains why it was allowed to fly that day. Whilst I don't agree with "3 identical faults within 7 days" being the standard (seems like a low standard), it is what it is and in this case, it failed its purpose and an accident occurred. Well, that is for identifying repeat error...

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by mandala499
Wed Mar 27, 2019 3:08 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3187
Views: 610155

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang

Then the story changed. Lion Air threatened to sue the safety committee member who made the not airworthy comment. So the story changed from not-airworthy, to 'never said it was not air-worthy', after the threat to sue. Let me explain what happened. 1.1. I heard the recording of the investigator st...

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by mandala499
Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 741297

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

Some questions on my side: 1) When MCAS was active during the 10 seconds, is electric trimming on the control column inhibited for that 10 second period? 2) So in that scenario, is electric trimming only available to the pilots during a 5 second window? 3) If control column is already heavy, and th...

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by mandala499
Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6476
Views: 743703

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

So... If I understand the MCAS fix correctly, it will now rely on two AOA sensors instead of one. So Boeing will still have to retrofit every MAX delivered with only one AOA with the extra AOA. ALL 737s come with 2 AOA vanes. All the Max 8 & 9 to date has MCAS that relies on ONE of the 2 AOA va...

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by mandala499
Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3187
Views: 610155

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang

At least Indonesian investigators acknowledge that particular frame was not airworthy on the previous flight and should not have been flying. You misunderstood what the investigators said. Your dispatch airworthiness is only valid up to the point of the aircraft taking off. Once you develop problem...

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by mandala499
Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6476
Views: 743703

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

="phollingsworth"]Unfortunately, unless the cutout part was regularly practiced it might have had no effect. The Lion Air pilots never tried the cutout even though it has been in the FCTM for a number of years. It would be interesting to see if the pilots involved has gone through the run...

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by mandala499
Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6476
Views: 743703

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

I suggest you read the FCOM. Perhaps it's better if we show the FCOM... so that people know what is written: https://i.ibb.co/rchqQ9f/NG-Runaway-Trim-Procedure.jpg No, it’s not the most relevant section, the Non Normal Checklist for Runaway Stab Trim is the procedure. Used to be a memory procedure,...

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by mandala499
Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:03 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Unusual incidents in commercial aviation
Replies: 39
Views: 5667

Re: Unusual incidents in commercial aviation

Virtual737 wrote:
"The condition of the cows was unclear."

I saw the pics of the cow... not safe for publication... :P
The cow was dead, to say the least.

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by mandala499
Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 741297

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

musicrab wrote:
I'm not sure if that's a mistranslation - some are reporting "in 30" days. Anyway, may as well come back in a month then.

ICAO Annex 13 standard is within/"no more than" 30 days from the date of occurence for the preliminary report.

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by mandala499
Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3187
Views: 610155

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang

Here is the passage: "In designing the 737 Max, Boeing decided to feed M.C.A.S. with data from only one of the two angle of attack sensors at a time, depending on which of two, redundant flight control computers — one on the captain’s side, one on the first officer’s side — happened to be acti...

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by mandala499
Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 741297

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

To get a better grip I downloaded the ET302 data as made available by FR24. https://www.flightradar24.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/ET302-Granular-Data.zip csv columns are: time,hex(transponder ID?),callsign,latitude,longitude,altitude,squawk,speed,track,vspeed looks like no further fields ar...

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by mandala499
Sun Mar 17, 2019 3:58 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Cloud based black boxes
Replies: 24
Views: 1960

Re: Cloud based black boxes

The idea has been dreamed up many times... but there are problems... 1. Do you want to send some of the FDR data, or all the FDR data? Snapshots? Or continuous stream? The latter is quite hefty. 2. Bandwidth costs... and required investments to support the bandwidth (eg: satcom installation)... Inma...

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by mandala499
Sun Mar 17, 2019 2:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 741297

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

the FR24 heuristics see a positive elevation change as "taking off". sitting on the ground at any elevation is shown as ZERO ft. ( After heuristically indicated take off plotted height data is morphed from ZERO to reported height.) ADS-B has ground/air mode information being sent. The que...

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by mandala499
Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3187
Views: 610155

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang

Current AOA DISAGREE logic fault threshold is 10deg difference between two sensors. That tolerance threshold may be too wide to completely prevent false activation of MCAS, especially under low speed high grossweight condition(actual AoA on the high side). I believe MCAS activation is around ~15deg...

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by mandala499
Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:44 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: How many prop planes in your logbook??
Replies: 54
Views: 3172

Re: How many prop planes in your logbook??

Propellers?
1. Dragon Rapide
2. L-188 Electra
3. Fokker 27
4. Piper Super Cub
5. Cessana 152
6. Cessna 402B

Helicopters don't count I suppose despite that big "propeller" on top? (B206, B407, B429)...

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by mandala499
Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:27 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: How these two crashes affect Boeing and the 737 MAX programme in the future?
Replies: 31
Views: 4077

Re: How these two crashes affect Boeing and the 737 MAX programme in the future?

Give humans complete control over MCAS, ie., simple way to cut off, and it should remain off until the pilot turns it back on. Like STS? If that takes too long, get AOA DISAGREE option to be mandatory... then change procedure to "if AOA DISAGREE after takeoff", do not fully retract flaps,...

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by mandala499
Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:24 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Is Boeing’s reputation now tainted?
Replies: 28
Views: 2667

Re: Is Boeing’s reputation now tainted?

As long as Boeing can come up with a fix in a timely manner... this will blow over...

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by mandala499
Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 741297

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

Lionair had issues with AOA, and airspeed. In this case there was at least an airspeed issue. Perhaps an issue with the ADIRU or a major configuration deviation outside of the ADIRU's parameters causing it to produce false data. An AOA error can produce unreliable airspeed indication. Even with the...

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by mandala499
Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:35 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Garuda to keep 737MAX order, add 787s in agreement with Boeing
Replies: 162
Views: 43696

Re: Garuda may cancel remaining orders of 737 MAX

SUB - CGK fares is locked at IDR1.604.000 or US$ 113 for one way by GA, that is absurd for 1 hour flying time for Indonesian standard economic of living. IDK about you mandala,..but I don't agree with this fare. My message is simple, we vote with our wallets. GA's policy of applying a flat full Y f...

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by mandala499
Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 741297

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

It shouldn’t go into effect until flaps are retracted. That doesn’t mean it doesn’t go into effect until flaps are retracted. From the Lion Air crash we know it has gone into effect when it shouldn’t before and there’s no way of knowing if this is isolated to one specific set of circumstances or an...

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by mandala499
Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:35 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Garuda to keep 737MAX order, add 787s in agreement with Boeing
Replies: 162
Views: 43696

Re: Garuda may cancel remaining orders of 737 MAX

Garuda is doing fine. They are not canceling the MAX order because of the recent accident. They are going to make some changes on their order for commercial purposes. The biggest problem in Indonesia now is high fare tickets on all domestic routes causing a drop in passengers load factor. They rose...

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by mandala499
Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3187
Views: 610155

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang

With all this Max saga unfolding... why can't Boeing just come up with a temporary fix like: 1. Make AOA disagree warning mandatory 2. If "AOA DISAGREE" comes up after take off, do not retract flaps to UP, and land ASAP. 3. If "AOA DISAGREE" comes up at any other time, LAND ASAP,...

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by mandala499
Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 741297

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

Well, after further analysis, I now believe the FR24's "airborne" point is wrong, because I looked up the GPS coordinates for that point, and it is less than 2000 ft from the start of the takeoff roll. However, notice that spot is 22 ft higher than the start of the takeoff roll, so I'm gu...

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by mandala499
Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 741297

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

Regardless... Take off speed seems very very low. Your thoughts? Indeed. The groundspeed are deemed to be "absolutely correct" subject to variations within GPS position errors... Past experience cross checking this with IRS Groundspeeds show that it is "good enough to use" pendi...

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by mandala499
Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 741297

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

FR says their ground speed is calculated.. their blog that was posted with the data explained that Mandala (PS: How the heck have you been!) Edit: Unless I misread their blog post, which is possible 2000+ posts ago. Calculated yes, FR may calculate their groundspeed for the position displays and re...

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by mandala499
Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 741297

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

Please read... even the same page you are posting on... Speed is based on distance between gps fixes. Not sensors. ALT is based on ADS-B data. VS is unknown if read or computed (I BELIEVE) it is computed, but may be wrong What data is transmitted by the transponder and what data is calculated by th...

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by mandala499
Wed Mar 13, 2019 5:52 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Politics and the 737Max
Replies: 196
Views: 12357

Re: Politics and the 737Max

So, you're recommending FAA blocks Canadian and European airplanes now? I too, thought the calls for the Max to be grounded was premature. Technically, it is, because there is not evidence. However, as the day progressed, the public's concerned and fears were so great that it was wise to ground the ...

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by mandala499
Wed Mar 13, 2019 5:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ombudsman official demands grounding of all Boeing 737 MAX 8 in Indonesia
Replies: 59
Views: 12264

Re: Ombudsman official demands grounding of all Boeing 737 MAX 8 in Indonesia

Is the Indonesian Ombudsman purely an advisory role? How often are they followed? Their official recommendations are to be followed, by law. The calls for the airplane to be grounded, isn't an official recommendation. I too, thought the calls for the Max to be grounded was premature. However, as th...

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by mandala499
Wed Mar 13, 2019 5:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3187
Views: 610155

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang

mandala499 (who is qualified to answer this, given his position) stated the mechanic was there for routine type-proving purposes. I think I've explained it enough. Some, refuse to believe or accept that answer, and for them, there's not much else I can do. It is what it is. Thanks - I did find that...

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by mandala499
Mon Dec 31, 2018 12:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3187
Views: 610155

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang

This is similar to the Turkish 737 crash into AMS where the aircraft automatically brought the thrust back to idle because of a radalt fault, it thought it should land. I wonder, did any report used the word "uncommanded" thrust lever movement? If not, then I don't think this trim movemen...

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by mandala499
Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3187
Views: 610155

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang

Yeah the “very short” 500+nm trip. They did not return to DPS because the checklists they ran said they did need to divert. I am not familiar with specific Indonesian rules, under ICAO practices what the crew did on the DPS-CGK sector was acceptable. Yeaps. There is a difference between right and a...

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by mandala499
Wed Nov 28, 2018 11:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3187
Views: 610155

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang

Yes, they did. Please read the linked article. "Not airworthy" is reported as a verbatim quote during a press conference by the head of Indonesia's national transport safety committee. Ever considered language comprehension differences due to mother tongue language structure? It does not ...

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by mandala499
Mon Nov 26, 2018 2:50 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Combatting Unreliable Airspeed
Replies: 19
Views: 2464

Re: Combatting Unreliable Airspeed

There's BUSS on the Airbus... and if I remember correctly, you can pull out an airspeed calculated by the engine probes on the A350 (but not accurate at low power settings) as a back up to the BUSS and/or pitch-and-power.

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by mandala499
Mon Nov 26, 2018 2:43 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3187
Views: 610155

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang

However on the MAX they have renamed these switches, the Stab Trim MAIN ELEC and AUTO PILOT are now named PRI and B/U. Just adding more confusion to the situation. And only a 1 hour Difference Course on the iPad on some airlines. Have we taken "commonality too far" ? Looking at the headin...

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by mandala499
Fri Nov 23, 2018 7:25 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Why do some airports not have SIDS/STARS?
Replies: 17
Views: 2310

Re: Why do some airports not have SIDS/STARS?

One airport here (my homebase), has its SIDs and STARs removed, despite having more traffic than before. Reason? They couldn't design SIDs and STARs that provided adequate separation with the traffic to/from nearby main airport (with a heck of a lof more moments). Although this as a reason for not h...

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by mandala499
Fri Nov 23, 2018 7:21 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Is this pilot's behavior safe?
Replies: 18
Views: 5266

Re: Is this pilot's behavior safe?

The 2nd video is err... yeah... what the hell? I'd love to see this guy do it in a tropical thunderstorm and holding his camera... 2:59... Flaps 5 oh hang on, flaps 30... yeaps... distracted all right. Someone tell this guy to get some action cams and do a multi camera shoot... To all those who thin...

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by mandala499
Fri Nov 23, 2018 5:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3187
Views: 610155

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang

Because this thread is 32 pages long and over 1500 messages, the only method I have to find Zeke's FR24 data is to sniff his profile and search his posts. Hmmm.. You can find it in page 15 of this topic... I'm taking a few days rest again from this JT610 (and my routine work) madness... I expect th...

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by mandala499
Fri Nov 23, 2018 2:50 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Did Boeing make a mistake putting middle exit doors on the 737 MAX 200?
Replies: 64
Views: 11292

Re: Boeing 737 MAX 200 no sense!!!

7.They have actually changed doors and moved them in front for more galley space on 737 NG, look at 737-400. ... Which they decided to standardize on with the NG. How many of those doors were used? And how many Max-8-200s have been ordered? Changing 1 door is different from changing 4 doors... What...

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by mandala499
Fri Nov 23, 2018 2:03 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Did Boeing make a mistake putting middle exit doors on the 737 MAX 200?
Replies: 64
Views: 11292

Re: Boeing 737 MAX 200 no sense!!!

Boeing made huge mistake by putting middle doors on 737 max 200. By taking valuable space from cabin putting middle doors on max 200, Boeing could put bigger type b exit door instead of type c in the front by making it 2in wider and 7in taller, like Airbus did with a320neo family by overperforming ...

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by mandala499
Fri Nov 23, 2018 1:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3187
Views: 610155

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang

Interesting tidbit: "The problem should have been fixed within 10 days. But Captain Hasan said that the carrier had a habit of simply moving the faulty radar to another plane. As the clock wound down on the next 10 days, the radar would then be switched to another plane, he said, in a dangerou...

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by mandala499
Thu Nov 22, 2018 6:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3187
Views: 610155

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang

as a conclusion that the STAB TRIM CUTOUT switches was not moved to CUTOUT. Does the FDR show this factually ? No evidence of that as far as I remember. The trim switches and the MCAS activated trim was active up to the final dive. The DPSCGK flight showed the possibility that it was cut off, but t...

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by mandala499
Thu Nov 22, 2018 2:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3187
Views: 610155

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang

I have no intention of singing Cumbaja ( neither with Lion Air nor with Boeing.) I just saw bits of the FDR plots seen at the parliamentary hearing of the accident with the NTSC. (No link available yet) Looks like it'll be a combination of factors by Lion (likely to be CRM issues) and Boeing (MCAS ...

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by mandala499
Wed Nov 21, 2018 12:48 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Bae 146 Nickname
Replies: 15
Views: 2350

Re: Bae 146 Nickname

Jumbolino and Quadrapuff are the BAe146 nicknames that stick in my head...
Someone also called it the PentAPU... 5 APUs...

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by mandala499
Sat Nov 17, 2018 7:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Abating Airbus: The A310 Fades into History
Replies: 143
Views: 24073

Re: The Abating Airbus: The A310 Fades into History

Shrinks never work B747SP, L1011-500, A310. Thank God Boeing didn't build a 757-100 after the 200 was already flying. The A310 was probably one of those few shrinks that worked well! 255 were made... more so than the whole L-1011 production run. A310 is unique as a shrink that really did it's job. ...

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by mandala499
Sat Nov 17, 2018 12:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3187
Views: 610155

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang

I doubt they stalled the thing. Well, I think we can safely say that they didn't stall the jet... but from the descriptions available, the MCAS will work regardless of load factor as long as it is detecting the AOA (correctly or wrongly) within it's activation range, autopilot off, flaps up, and pr...

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by mandala499
Sat Nov 17, 2018 12:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: MAS restructuring "deemed a failure"
Replies: 40
Views: 10910

Re: MAS restructuring "deemed a failure"

Long story short, without government interference, they may not succeed, but they would also be allowed to shut down - sometimes that's for the best. In the case of GA, there are investors interested in buying GA off the government... with realistic plans. However, selling GA is deemed politically ...

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by mandala499
Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing’s automatic trim for the 737 MAX was not disclosed to the Pilots
Replies: 295
Views: 46447

Re: Boeing’s automatic trim for the 737 MAX was not disclosed to the Pilots

What's your point? The point is that without the additional workload that those guys may have faced, missing the large wheels rotating may have been inexcusable. Then, same with another accident, "how can the crew miss the thrust levers moving to idle?" I think instead of saying "how...

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by mandala499
Sat Nov 17, 2018 7:16 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing’s automatic trim for the 737 MAX was not disclosed to the Pilots
Replies: 295
Views: 46447

Re: Boeing’s automatic trim for the 737 MAX was not disclosed to the Pilots

fadecfault wrote:
Sorry I do not know how you can miss a large wheel moving just 5 inches from your leg.

Did you do it with AOA disagree warning and unreliable airspeed for about 10 mins prior to stalling it?

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