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by Newbiepilot
Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Avianca to cancel half of its NEO orders
Replies: 23
Views: 6863

Re: Avianca to cancel half of its NEO orders

I wonder what the cancellation penalties look like

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by Newbiepilot
Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Did the 737 MAX go one step too far?
Replies: 233
Views: 34715

Re: Did the 737 MAX go one step too far?

Nope. The 737NG had 400 orders at first flight. The 737MAX has 4,000. Its the fastest selling airplane in the history of Boeing and is performing with very high reliability. The view from Boeing https://randy.newairplane.com/2018/05/22/737-max-a-year-of-serving-the-globe/ RELIABILITY With the 737 MA...

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by Newbiepilot
Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How Airbus Plans To improve manufacturing automation.
Replies: 125
Views: 18575

Re: How Airbus Plans To improve manufacturing automation.

A moving line for an airplane is quite nonsens isn‘t. But as even „experts“ like Kanban promoting it without explaining the benifits and constraintsp OK, let's start back in 1989, Boeing sent me on a year long sabbatical to research methods to improve the aircraft manufacturing process. At that tim...

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by Newbiepilot
Sun Dec 09, 2018 11:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How Airbus Plans To improve manufacturing automation.
Replies: 125
Views: 18575

Re: How Airbus Plans To improve manufacturing automation.

A moving line for an airplane is quite nonsens isn‘t. But as even „experts“ like Kanban promoting it without explaining the benifits and constraintsp A moving line is such a miserable, high cost approach no manufacturer should do it. Well, Boeing is using either the continuously moving or a jump mo...

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by Newbiepilot
Sun Dec 09, 2018 11:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Malta might consider A321LR to fly to NY, Toronto, Mumbai
Replies: 49
Views: 8002

Re: Air Malta might consider A321LR to fly to NY, Toronto, Mumbai

Is there actually much of a market? If the government wants to test the tourism market from the US/Canada, why not offer a subsidy to see if they can get Transatlantic service? Buying dedicated long haul aircraft for an airline with only 10 airplanes that doesn’t have a long history of profitable o...

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by Newbiepilot
Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How Airbus Plans To improve manufacturing automation.
Replies: 125
Views: 18575

Re: How Airbus Plans To improve manufacturing automation.

Changed title to keep discussion civil and more productive. Thank you. Interesting. The A320 was designed from the start in 1987 (end of the REAL 80s) to be produced via automation - kind of a strange comment from him. Nothing remotely significant has changed in the A320 design for 30 years except ...

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by Newbiepilot
Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Malta might consider A321LR to fly to NY, Toronto, Mumbai
Replies: 49
Views: 8002

Re: Air Malta might consider A321LR to fly to NY, Toronto, Mumbai

Is there actually much of a market? If the government wants to test the tourism market from the US/Canada, why not offer a subsidy to see if they can get Transatlantic service? Buying dedicated long haul aircraft for an airline with only 10 airplanes that doesn’t have a long history of profitable op...

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by Newbiepilot
Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest Airlines 150 Seat 737-700 Replacement Question, Status?
Replies: 144
Views: 16290

Re: Southwest Airlines 150 Seat 737-700 Replacement Question, Status?

If anyone needs short field performance in the United States, it is Southwest. They have big operations in BUR, SNA, MDW, HOU, etc. Using exclusively 737-8s on those shorter runways may trash the engines. I could see them wanting performance more than other airlines to avoid weight restrictions.

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by Newbiepilot
Sun Dec 09, 2018 3:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest Airlines 150 Seat 737-700 Replacement Question, Status?
Replies: 144
Views: 16290

Re: Southwest Airlines 150 Seat 737-700 Replacement Question, Status?

Keesje, the answer to what’s the status is pretty simple. The 737-700s are still young enough not to need replacement, and it will be a while before more 150 seat jets are needed ]Southwest flies many small capacity routes. A 737-700 is still on the big side for St Louis to Tulsa or Boston to Columb...

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by Newbiepilot
Sat Dec 08, 2018 3:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How Airbus Plans To improve manufacturing automation.
Replies: 125
Views: 18575

Re: How Airbus Plans To Fly Out Of Its ‘Perfect Storm’

Please stop throwing shade so we can have a real discussion I recall a thread in the last year or so that indicated that NONE of the A320 family FALS contain the same level of automation and the plane itself was, as the article notes, was not not designed with "design for manufacture" as a...

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by Newbiepilot
Sat Dec 08, 2018 3:32 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is Airbus hiding a new A322 business case behind the 100t+ A321XLR study? Numbers..
Replies: 211
Views: 33552

Re: Is Airbus hiding a new A322 business case behind the 100t+ A321XLR study? Numbers..

Yeah, and remind me again the percentage of 739/900ER routes are actually flown further than 3000 miles? How many of those are not flown by Delta? I don’t know of any 3000nm 737-900ER routes. Turkish comes close at 2900nm Turkey to Tanzania. I also don’t know of any A321s under normal passenger ope...

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by Newbiepilot
Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:01 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is Airbus hiding a new A322 business case behind the 100t+ A321XLR study? Numbers..
Replies: 211
Views: 33552

Re: Is Airbus hiding a new A322 business case behind the 100t+ A321XLR study? Numbers..

That sounds a lot like the 737-900-not-ER, a product that airlines liked well enough, but was roundly scorned here on a.net. If the XLR manages 4500nm and a stretch would manage 3500nm, that would be above 737-900ER territory, about what a 737-9 does. Yeah, and remind me again the percentage of 739...

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by Newbiepilot
Fri Dec 07, 2018 4:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How Airbus Plans To improve manufacturing automation.
Replies: 125
Views: 18575

Re: How Airbus Plans To Fly Out Of Its ‘Perfect Storm’

Great article. Good to have some insight on where the engineering work is being focused

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by Newbiepilot
Fri Dec 07, 2018 5:14 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Question on Jetblue's JFK-ORH-JFK Flight
Replies: 3
Views: 999

Re: Question on Jetblue's JFK-ORH-JFK Flight

JetBlue has multiple flights a day. I suspect the crew go to rest and then start their day the next day on an afternoon flight to Florida.

For example the crew does XXX-JFK-Worcester (overnights)-FLL-XXX

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by Newbiepilot
Fri Dec 07, 2018 1:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is Airbus hiding a new A322 business case behind the 100t+ A321XLR study? Numbers..
Replies: 211
Views: 33552

Re: Is Airbus hiding a new A322 business case behind the 100t+ A321XLR study? Numbers..

If you do a substantial stretch and MTOW increase on the A321, the need for an extensive center fueltank redesign would be kind of gone. Just add a 4th ACT :twocents: I can’t imagine the 30 year old 1300 sq ft wing being able to take a substantial stretch and MTOW increase. Before long it will need...

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by Newbiepilot
Thu Dec 06, 2018 2:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is Airbus hiding a new A322 business case behind the 100t+ A321XLR study? Numbers..
Replies: 211
Views: 33552

Re: Is Airbus hiding a new A322 business case behind the 100t+ A321XLR study? Numbers..

Fair enough, but to me at least your post suggests a follow up question: Why haven't they? OK. That's a totally awesome question. Taking guesses (and these could all be wrong) (1) The runway requirements get excessive because after the stretch because the takeoff angle becomes limited. (2) The wing...

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by Newbiepilot
Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is Airbus hiding a new A322 business case behind the 100t+ A321XLR study? Numbers..
Replies: 211
Views: 33552

Re: Is Airbus hiding a new A322 business case behind the 100t+ A321XLR study? Numbers..

Yes and Boeing has a negative equity of 26 billion USD if you calculate the influence of program for cost accounting. So 26 billion of those 44 billions have been provided by program for cost accounting. If Boeing would have had to account to IFRS only 18 billion of those 44 billions would have bee...

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by Newbiepilot
Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is Airbus hiding a new A322 business case behind the 100t+ A321XLR study? Numbers..
Replies: 211
Views: 33552

Re: Is Airbus hiding a new A322 business case behind the 100t+ A321XLR study? Numbers..

How did you deduce that? Especially the second part. Airbus actually sells more planes at higher prices. Boeing has to dump their MAXs to keep the line busy. 787 sells at or even below cost with $32B spent on it. I don't see all those problems with Airbus. Do you know something I don't? Breech, you...

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by Newbiepilot
Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is Airbus hiding a new A322 business case behind the 100t+ A321XLR study? Numbers..
Replies: 211
Views: 33552

Re: Is Airbus hiding a new A322 business case behind the 100t+ A321XLR study? Numbers..

Seems you are4 acrtively trying to distract the discussion again into a topic you now is far more complecated. You keep repeating your self again and again without adding anything new just to distract. Is that called Trolling? Well, you are an expert on distracting topics and repeating yourself. Ju...

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by Newbiepilot
Wed Dec 05, 2018 3:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is Airbus hiding a new A322 business case behind the 100t+ A321XLR study? Numbers..
Replies: 211
Views: 33552

Re: Is Airbus hiding a new A322 business case behind the 100t+ A321XLR study? Numbers..

except boeing has the cash flow to easily develop new products, airbus doesnt have that same financial freedom. How did you deduce that? Especially the second part. Airbus actually sells more planes at higher prices. Boeing has to dump their MAXs to keep the line busy. 787 sells at or even below co...

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by Newbiepilot
Wed Dec 05, 2018 4:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is Airbus hiding a new A322 business case behind the 100t+ A321XLR study? Numbers..
Replies: 211
Views: 33552

Re: Is Airbus hiding a new A322 business case behind the 100t+ A321XLR study? Numbers..

[When you say slam dunk, are you assuming an all new wing or that they will use the same wing? The small wing is a big constraint to deal with. No new wing. Just a simple stretch of the A321XLR with the same MTOW. It is by far the most obvious solution. Such an A322's range will be significantly re...

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by Newbiepilot
Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is Airbus hiding a new A322 business case behind the 100t+ A321XLR study? Numbers..
Replies: 211
Views: 33552

Re: Is Airbus hiding a new A322 business case behind the 100t+ A321XLR study? Numbers..

The A322 will be a slam dunk. Low development cost and it will take a big chunk off the 797. Launching now will only cause airlines to swap their A321 orders. I do think the biggest problem with the A322 will be engine thrust. The maximum takeoff weight might be the same as the A321XLR but the long...

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by Newbiepilot
Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is Airbus hiding a new A322 business case behind the 100t+ A321XLR study? Numbers..
Replies: 211
Views: 33552

Re: Is Airbus hiding a new A322 business case behind the 100t+ A321XLR study? Numbers..

I am feeling some De Ja Vu from prior threads, probably because the idea of stretching the A321 has been around for two decades Thank you for spending so much time digging up all those old posts :cheerful: But, I assume, you missed something changed. Airbus indicates they are working on a 100t + de...

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by Newbiepilot
Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WOW AIR nonstop KEF-LAX with A 321 today
Replies: 73
Views: 16236

Re: WOW AIR nonstop KEF-LAX with A 321 today

A friend of mine was on the return from LAX to KEF with a 6-hour delay leaving LAX and refueling at YEG. He missed his onward connection to AMS in KEF, with WOW unwilling to rebook him on another flight until 24-48 hours later (with no guarantees as to when). He is not flying WOW again after this e...

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by Newbiepilot
Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:30 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: 737-800 tipping risk at deboarding?
Replies: 43
Views: 13142

Re: 737-800 tipping risk at deboarding?

There is a video on YouTube where one ramper getting in the rear cargo hold of an A321 caused the plane to tip https://youtu.be/tgktrfUJbj4 Planes can be extremely sensivitive, especially since fuel burn can improve with a slightly aft CG. There are manuals telling how cargo should be loaded and un...

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by Newbiepilot
Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WOW AIR nonstop KEF-LAX with A 321 today
Replies: 73
Views: 16236

Re: WOW AIR nonstop KEF-LAX with A 321 today

workhorse wrote:
Newbiepilot wrote:
Its a bit surprising they kept the route even though they lost their A330 to fly it


They still have one A330, that's the thing. It's currently sitting on the ground in KEF.


Thanks for the clarification. I thought they lost all the A330s to the lessor who took them back

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by Newbiepilot
Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WOW AIR nonstop KEF-LAX with A 321 today
Replies: 73
Views: 16236

Re: WOW AIR nonstop KEF-LAX with A 321 today

Its a bit surprising they kept the route even though they lost their A330 to fly it. They won’t keep passengers long if they miss connections due to tech stops

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by Newbiepilot
Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:18 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Excess baggage embargoes
Replies: 3
Views: 1296

Re: Excess baggage embargoes

Due to taxes and import restrictions the price of goods in Latin America can be far higher than in the United States. People will shop in the United States and bring back huge items as baggage such as televisions, bicycles, toys, electronics, etc. The airplanes can’t carry that much stuff. The embar...

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by Newbiepilot
Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:59 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: 737-800 tipping risk at deboarding?
Replies: 43
Views: 13142

Re: 737-800 tipping risk at deboarding?

There is a video on YouTube where one ramper getting in the rear cargo hold of an A321 caused the plane to tip https://youtu.be/tgktrfUJbj4 Planes can be extremely sensivitive, especially since fuel burn can improve with a slightly aft CG. There are manuals telling how cargo should be loaded and unl...

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by Newbiepilot
Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is Airbus hiding a new A322 business case behind the 100t+ A321XLR study? Numbers..
Replies: 211
Views: 33552

Re: Is Airbus hiding a new A322 business case behind the 100t+ A321XLR study? Numbers..

Airbus are likely doing the opposite of their public statements. I’m sorry but I don’t buy into The Whole conspiracy theory logic that we shouldn’t believe executives when they talk about what their companies are doing since it is all a deceptive shell game to throw off the competition. Of course A...

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by Newbiepilot
Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is Airbus hiding a new A322 business case behind the 100t+ A321XLR study? Numbers..
Replies: 211
Views: 33552

Re: Is Airbus hiding a new A322 business case behind the 100t+ A321XLR study? Numbers..

They have at least one 'black' development centre in France (perhaps another in Germany). We can be confident Reuters don't get press releases on current activities. Aah.....Airbus' version of Phantom Works ..... :ghost: Lockheed has Skunk Works, Boeing has Phantom Works, what trendy name does Airb...

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by Newbiepilot
Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is Airbus hiding a new A322 business case behind the 100t+ A321XLR study? Numbers..
Replies: 211
Views: 33552

Re: Is Airbus hiding a new A322 business case behind the 100t+ A321XLR study? Numbers..

I am feeling some De Ja Vu from prior threads, probably because the idea of stretching the A321 has been around for two decades https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1357281 https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1362655 We know it is possible. We also mostly know ...

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by Newbiepilot
Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WOW Air Ongoing Developments Discussion Thread
Replies: 1113
Views: 186494

Re: WOW Financial Discussion Thread

If Indigo is able to figure out a way to shift assets around seasonally among their various parts they might be able to make it work. Strip the Icelandic operations to bare bones during the winter and use those assets elsewhere while beefing up the Icelandic operations in the summer using aircraft ...

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by Newbiepilot
Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Interview with LH CEO: information about future fleet plans (777X, 787, A350)
Replies: 68
Views: 16384

Re: Interview with LH CEO: information about future fleet plans (777X, 787, A350)

I didn’t realize the A320neos are only half as much as they should every day. Do not trust everything an airline CEO say! LH had some operational trouble in summer, so they try to blame anybody else. The neos do there 6-8 flights per day as any other A320 in the fleet. At introduction 2 years ago t...

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by Newbiepilot
Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A320 Engine Fix Won't Come for Months, Lufthansa Says
Replies: 86
Views: 20325

Re: Airbus A320 Engine Fix Won't Come for Months, Lufthansa Says

History repeating itself. Just to be expected when pushing the state of the art. The problem is - these issues with the GTF are nothing to do with the gearbox. So far. As per #58 we won't know about the root cause of the newest vibration issue till end of November. Have we heard more about root cau...

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by Newbiepilot
Mon Dec 03, 2018 6:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Interview with LH CEO: information about future fleet plans (777X, 787, A350)
Replies: 68
Views: 16384

Re: Interview with LH CEO: information about future fleet plans (777X, 787, A350)

English summary of the interview for our non German speakers: https://www.airlineratings.com/news/lufthansa-considers-787-reveals-777x-plans/ Thanks for the English version. I find this quote interesting Further complications were added by problems with new Airbus A320neo aircraft: “We only got hal...

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by Newbiepilot
Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WestJet's 2018 Christmas miracle video is out
Replies: 11
Views: 1691

Re: WestJet's 2018 Christmas miracle video is out

I like that notion of uniting people in a surprising way. https://youtu.be/E0OrlSyqf1I Another good Christmas "surprise" by WestJet; it is good to know there is some creativity left in the industry. But I still think nothing beats their 2013 version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIEIvi...

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by Newbiepilot
Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:22 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Newly renovated terminal 1 at LAX unveiled
Replies: 54
Views: 11961

Re: Newly renovated terminal 1 at LAX unveiled

Nice terminal, but other LA airports are still more convenient. Fortunately lots of options using southwest. If only it didn’t take 30 minutes to get through the traffic dropping someone off or picking them up at peak times.

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by Newbiepilot
Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: VietJet A321neo Nose Gear Wheels Ripped Off During Landing
Replies: 19
Views: 9187

Re: VietJet A321neo Nose Gear Wheels Ripped Off During Landing

It looks like someone forgot to torque the nuts.. Apply ETOPS rule, one mechanic takes care of the left wheel, a second one the right wheel. Avoid same mistake twice. If the plane was only two weeks old, it could have been incorrectly installed in production. Sometimes tires could be replaced after...

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by Newbiepilot
Wed Nov 28, 2018 4:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United 98 LAX-MEL maintenance divert to NAN
Replies: 32
Views: 9596

Re: United 98 LAX-MEL maintenance divert to NAN

A rescue flight is quite complicated and expensive. They are demanding on spare crews and planes and quite disruptive. Other than charter airlines, few airlines support rescue charters regardless of alliance. Airlines usually rebook on other airlines scheduled flights and use their own planes to res...

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by Newbiepilot
Wed Nov 28, 2018 4:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL’s 737-700 Fleet
Replies: 23
Views: 4553

Re: DL’s 737-700 Fleet

They are needed for airports like key west. The E170 and CRJs dont have enough capacity. The 737-700 is useful for longer flights out of SNA to prevent blocking seats and weight restrictions.

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by Newbiepilot
Tue Nov 27, 2018 6:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus - hiring for new narrowbody and A350 neo
Replies: 160
Views: 26740

Re: Airbus - hiring for new narrowbody and A350 neo

Do you have more than just that a blogger on the XWB issues? The power of an individual blogger with no editorial review against a respected specialised journal. Have either of you read the article? I have, and while one may object to the content, I didn't find any inaccuracies. I suspect the "...

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by Newbiepilot
Mon Nov 26, 2018 7:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus - hiring for new narrowbody and A350 neo
Replies: 160
Views: 26740

Re: Airbus - hiring for new narrowbody and A350 neo

It is the whole premise of this thread. Its your choice to believe Bloomberg or not. That Airbus is hiring for an A350 neo post 2025 is the premise of this thread. Not the fact that such a timescale would be early. 777-200 EIS: June 94 777-300ER EIS: April 2004 i.e. 9 years 10 month later . A350-90...

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by Newbiepilot
Mon Nov 26, 2018 3:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus - hiring for new narrowbody and A350 neo
Replies: 160
Views: 26740

Re: Airbus - hiring for new narrowbody and A350 neo

[imgg]

Erebus wrote:
Newbiepilot wrote:
We know Airbus is looking into a new engine and that it is awfully early in the lifecycle of the airplane to do that unless there is an alternative reason.


Evidence please.


It is the whole premise of this thread. Its your choice to believe Bloomberg or not.

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by Newbiepilot
Mon Nov 26, 2018 2:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus - hiring for new narrowbody and A350 neo
Replies: 160
Views: 26740

Re: Airbus - hiring for new narrowbody and A350 neo

I provided a quote and source for how trent 1000 and trent 7000 problems are affecting the resources for the Trent XWB, but you can choose to ignore if you desire. Putting the future of the A350 and A330neo in the hands of Rolls Royce does not appear as wise now as it may have been 5 years ago. Eng...

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by Newbiepilot
Sun Nov 25, 2018 6:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus - hiring for new narrowbody and A350 neo
Replies: 160
Views: 26740

Re: Airbus - hiring for new narrowbody and A350 neo

RR has an exclusive on the A350. It is another 5 years until Airbus is allowed to talk A350NEO and thus 12 years to EIS.. About the right time frame. I am wondering if the A350neo is being considered because the Trent 7000/XWB simply has too many problems for Airbus to base its future widebody line...

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by Newbiepilot
Sun Nov 25, 2018 4:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus - hiring for new narrowbody and A350 neo
Replies: 160
Views: 26740

Re: Airbus - hiring for new narrowbody and A350 neo

I asked the guy in the mirror. He says he cares. I ask my millennial friends and all they want to do is live in Seattle or Boston or NYC or LA or Silicon Valley and they don't give a damn what it costs them, they seem to find a way. Does anyone know for how long RR has exclusivity on the A350? And ...

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by Newbiepilot
Sun Nov 25, 2018 4:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus - hiring for new narrowbody and A350 neo
Replies: 160
Views: 26740

Re: Airbus - hiring for new narrowbody and A350 neo

RR has an exclusive on the A350. It is another 5 years until Airbus is allowed to talk A350NEO and thus 12 years to EIS.. About the right time frame. I am wondering if the A350neo is being considered because the Trent 7000/XWB simply has too many problems for Airbus to base its future widebody line...

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by Newbiepilot
Wed Nov 21, 2018 4:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qantas CEO dials back on expectations for Project Sunrise Jet
Replies: 145
Views: 32830

Re: Qantas CEO dials back on expectations for Project Sunrise Jet

Newbiepilot [Reply94] I think you missed the point. The cargo flow on the Atlas charters is one way North America-Australia-China-North America. My understanding is that QF fifth freedom rights China to North America are for FREIGHT ONLY! So belly cargo is irrelevant to the charter operations, bell...

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by Newbiepilot
Wed Nov 21, 2018 1:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qantas CEO dials back on expectations for Project Sunrise Jet
Replies: 145
Views: 32830

Re: Qantas CEO dials back on expectations for Project Sunrise Jet

Perhaps the 777x can fulfill the ultra long haul while also having enough payload to carry more freight SYD-LAX. The 777-8 should be able to carry maximum structural payload, or close to it, on Australia East Coast-US West Coast routes. If that were important to Qantas, though, you would have thoug...

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