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by Newbiepilot
Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019
Replies: 1358
Views: 207625

Re: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019

If we calculate with 35 bags per LD3-45 it would not leave much room for cargo in a high density configuration. If it is 7W I'm sure Boeing will do a custom container as an option. Especially if they intend to reuse NMA cross section for NSA. It won't be a unique container then.... The cross sectio...

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by Newbiepilot
Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019
Replies: 1358
Views: 207625

Re: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019

An article was just published. Not a whole lot of new information, but I found this quote interesting [i]Boeing’s design features a slightly oval-shaped fuselage that saves weight and fuel by devoting more space to passengers and less to freight in the plane’s belly. A smaller version would seat 22...

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by Newbiepilot
Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019
Replies: 1358
Views: 207625

Re: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019

I see the 797 as being like 4" wider than the 767, that fits with a 7ab cabin but the 767 has been equipped in a cattle class 8ab. Adding 4" would give an extra 1/2" per seat. enough for a cramped 16" seat arrangement. But that width allows most airlines to use a 7ab at least in...

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by Newbiepilot
Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019
Replies: 1358
Views: 207625

Re: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019

An article was just published. Not a whole lot of new information, but I found this quote interesting Boeing’s design features a slightly oval-shaped fuselage that saves weight and fuel by devoting more space to passengers and less to freight in the plane’s belly. A smaller version would seat 220 tr...

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by Newbiepilot
Sat Feb 09, 2019 10:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019
Replies: 1358
Views: 207625

Re: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019

So 797 is not a 321 / 322 competitor. It is a B788 / B789 / A338 / A339 competitor and killer. Considering that it will have one generation more efficient engines I suppose that Airbus will soon make their move and replace A330. A 270 seat plane optimized for 1000 mile routes will displace a whole ...

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by Newbiepilot
Sat Feb 09, 2019 1:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA Reducing IAH-SYD and LAX-SYD March to October
Replies: 91
Views: 18112

Re: UA Reducing IAH-SYD and LAX-SYD March to October

Going less than daily on LAX-SYD is a risk for ongoing market share for business travelers. It was probably a well calculated decision so they could use the plane elsewhere during the peak summer travel season. With 5 airlines serving the route now compared to only two in the past even Qantas has dr...

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by Newbiepilot
Sat Feb 09, 2019 1:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019
Replies: 1358
Views: 207625

Re: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019

Well I'm just doing comparison with B767-300ER's capability. Knowing that it's the most successful variant of B767. 767-300ER was the only successful 767 variant because it was able to do something that 757 wasn't able to, which is flying up to 6,000 nm. Other variants were dominated by 757. 767-20...

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by Newbiepilot
Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: West Jet MAX 7 order in doubt
Replies: 35
Views: 6436

Re: West Jet MAX 7 order in doubt

THis thread is about Weather , not Southwest A220s. Is it? ;) This development is not surprising, of course. The B37M just does not offer a whole lot to WS. Of course they have made do with their 736's, but it seems unlikely that they love them. The issue for Westjet, though, would be the massive g...

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by Newbiepilot
Fri Feb 08, 2019 2:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: West Jet MAX 7 order in doubt
Replies: 35
Views: 6436

Re: West Jet MAX 7 order in doubt

THis thread is about Weather, not Southwest A220s. The article is a bit jumbled, but from what I can tell, the 737-8 efficiency is attractive to Westjet, especially after they started operating the planes. Financiers may not like the 737-7 much. Sounds like it is advantageous for both Boeing and Wes...

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by Newbiepilot
Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: QF officially cancels final 8 A380s.
Replies: 216
Views: 38629

Re: QF officially cancels final 8 A380s.

I am curious if there would have been financial payments due now which led to the cancellation. It is odd that Qantas didn’t wait for the project sunrise decision to cancel

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by Newbiepilot
Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Virgin Atlantic cancels order for 6 A380s
Replies: 110
Views: 27645

Re: Virgin Atlantic cancels order for 6 A380s

Edited: please delete this post

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by Newbiepilot
Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Reuters: United to add premium seats on regional and mainline jets
Replies: 272
Views: 29417

Re: Reuters: United to add premium seats on regional and mainline jets

Thought this was a joke at first. Should be interesting once more details are out. Seems a little ballsy that they're announcing the CRJ 550 as they are already in pretty shaky talks with ALPA regarding scope. G7 is operating these 550's but they only have 25 CRJ700's, so I'm confused where the oth...

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by Newbiepilot
Wed Feb 06, 2019 1:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How many 737 MAX 10 are actually ordered?
Replies: 60
Views: 10751

Re: How many 737 MAX 10 are actually ordered?

'Cause you'd say they should replace them with A321's. ;) We kid because we love. A fun fact is that both the 737-9 and 737-10 have more orders than the A321LR. I expect the A321LR order count and conversions to eventually exceed the 737-9, but I personally predict more 737-10 deliveries than A321L...

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by Newbiepilot
Wed Feb 06, 2019 1:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How many 737 MAX 10 are actually ordered?
Replies: 60
Views: 10751

Re: How many 737 MAX 10 are actually ordered?

Are you saying that Icelandair, Copa, FlyDubai or United are going to imminently retire 737-9s already in service and replace them with 737-10s? No, you are. 'Cause you'd say they should replace them with A321's. ;) We kid because we love. A fun fact is that both the 737-9 and 737-10 have more orde...

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by Newbiepilot
Wed Feb 06, 2019 1:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How many 737 MAX 10 are actually ordered?
Replies: 60
Views: 10751

Re: How many 737 MAX 10 are actually ordered?

Are you saying that Icelandair, Copa, FlyDubai or United are going to imminently retire 737-9s already in service and replace them with 737-10s? No, you are. So what are you saying? I expect the 737-10 to replace most 737-9 with the airlines at some point, with the -9 probably getting concentrated ...

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by Newbiepilot
Wed Feb 06, 2019 1:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How many 737 MAX 10 are actually ordered?
Replies: 60
Views: 10751

Re: How many 737 MAX 10 are actually ordered?

I expect the 737-10 to replace most 737-9 with the airlines at some point, with the -9 probably getting concentrated with 1 or a few airlines that don't need the -10 capabilities and can benefit from economies of scale. Delta traditionally has been smart there (DC9, MD90, 717, DC10). There are alre...

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by Newbiepilot
Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019
Replies: 1358
Views: 207625

Re: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019

Personal opinion: Boeing is fairly big on diversifying risk; I believe that the NMA (if built) will require 2 assembly lines unless the new manufacturing techniques substantially speed up assembly. I would anticipate development and the 1st line in Washington State; and the 2nd line in Charleston f...

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by Newbiepilot
Mon Feb 04, 2019 1:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: EASA bans Turkmenistan Airlines (T5) from EU airspace
Replies: 46
Views: 7391

Re: EASA bans Turkmenistan Airlines (T5) from EU airspace

This has nothing to do with service. It appears that it is due to safety and many passengers are potentially stranded The Foreign and Commonwealth Office (FCO) said the European Aviation Safety Agency had suspended the airline's flights to and from the EU "pending confirmation that it meets int...

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by Newbiepilot
Mon Feb 04, 2019 1:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How many 737 MAX 10 are actually ordered?
Replies: 60
Views: 10751

Re: How many 737 MAX 10 are actually ordered?

I’m curious to see the new product that United is testing for their 737-10s The 737s with lie-flat first class seats would allow the Chicago-based carrier to offer its premium domestic product in more markets where it sees demand, as well as replace its fleet of aging premium domestic Boeing 757s, U...

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by Newbiepilot
Sun Feb 03, 2019 11:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019
Replies: 1358
Views: 207625

Re: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019

On the other hand, I think there is a tiny but non-zero possibility that NMA itself is a disinformation campaign being used to hide NSA development. Tiny, but non-zero till proven otherwise. Sort of Sonic Cruiser hiding 787 . . . ? Highly doubt the disinformation angle. BA being publicly traded jus...

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by Newbiepilot
Sun Feb 03, 2019 2:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A220 Developments : more of a match for A320neo than Airbus says
Replies: 308
Views: 57865

Re: Airbus A220 Developments : more of a match for A320neo than Airbus says

Exactly. But.....they never actually delivered even a single 737-700 at that price did they? In the case of UA, Boeing accomplished the mission which was to block a CSeries sale. Indeed, UA later converted/delayed/cancelled the order. It probably figured out that it could not operate profitably tho...

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by Newbiepilot
Sun Feb 03, 2019 3:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Seattle/Tacoma Area 2nd New Airport (SeaTac Reliever/Replacement)
Replies: 148
Views: 14291

Re: Seattle/Tacoma Area 2nd New Airport (SeaTac Reliever/Replacement)

Why so much talk about a new airport? Three runways is plenty of capacity. The airport master plan allows for another north terminal where the cargo facilities are. There is space south of the fuel tanks where the displaced cargo ramp can be relocated. https://www.westsideseattle.com/sites/default/f...

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by Newbiepilot
Sat Feb 02, 2019 7:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019
Replies: 1358
Views: 207625

Re: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019

Nope. EIS most likely ~2027 from a 2020 launch. Also if Boeing claims 2025. Sorry. Nothing to doubt the usual 7 years: pdr's, cdr's, design freeze, production engineering, setting up supply chains, new engine, iron bird, software development & integration, static test frame, production building...

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by Newbiepilot
Sat Feb 02, 2019 12:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019
Replies: 1358
Views: 207625

Re: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019

:smile: to summarize: that Boeings next project might look significantly different than most believe today. Things, insights changed over the last 5 years. Maybe DennisM stopped singing along & asks some stringent questions, that, maybe, should have been put on the table earlier. Do you have an...

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by Newbiepilot
Fri Feb 01, 2019 3:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Airbus announcing A321XLR
Replies: 400
Views: 72831

Re: Flightglobal: Airbus A321XLR would have over 100t MTOW, range of 4700 nm

The space behind main landing gear bay, if Airbus decides to go forward with converting that space into tankage, maybe they can standardise the design to 97ton A321NEO. It's worth 1.6ton of fuel, without takeout any space. I am assuming minimal weight, since it is integral tank Leeham reported the ...

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by Newbiepilot
Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Airbus announcing A321XLR
Replies: 400
Views: 72831

Re: Flightglobal: Airbus A321XLR would have over 100t MTOW, range of 4700 nm

So there's now 146 disclosed orders for A321LR's across 11 operators. Probably a lot more undisclosed in the order book. When you think back in the day only about 40 of the 1000 odd 757 fleet were engaged in these long range routes, that's quite something. CAPA reckon up to 20 airlines operating th...

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by Newbiepilot
Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019
Replies: 1358
Views: 207625

Re: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019

The very simple thing is that Boeing is delaying the decision in regards to launching the 797. It is déjà vu. 2017 it was supposed to launch at the Paris air show. 2018 it was supposed to be launched at Farnborough. Than the talk was about Paris airshow in 2019. Now it is moved to the end of this y...

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by Newbiepilot
Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019
Replies: 1358
Views: 207625

Re: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019

All this talk about possible EIS in 2025. How can it possibly take that long? The Boeing 747-100, designed using a pencil and a slide rule took less than three years to fly. Most of the 797 design is probably already done by now. The 747 didn't even have a FAL built. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B...

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by Newbiepilot
Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019
Replies: 1358
Views: 207625

Re: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019

Boeing to decide in 2020 whether it will launch new mid-sized jet could as well be translated as: "Boeing has serious doubts about the 797 business case that they've been working on for the last 6 years" I see a fresh look emerging & maybe Leahy is right: smaller. The 737-9 &-10 a...

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by Newbiepilot
Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cold Weather Cancellations in the US
Replies: 90
Views: 11589

Re: Cold Weather Cancellations in the US

I know of two European airlines that already over the past days didn‘t bring any more cargo into/out of ORD, as they felt that the loading/unloading would expose ramp workers too much. And that was before today‘s cold wave (those same airlines just cancelled their flights today...) Would it be an i...

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by Newbiepilot
Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA responds to Frontier starting BTV-DEN, launches their own seasonal service
Replies: 71
Views: 8112

Re: UA responds to Frontier starting BTV-DEN, launches their own seasonal service

I am a little surprised they went with a 320, seems like a perfect EMB route to me. For 1x weekly it's catering to ski and snowboard traffic which is actually a pretty smart move on their part. Recall if you have "The Pass" for the winter season in CO, some packages allow for skiing in St...

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by Newbiepilot
Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:38 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: How does extreme cold affect flight ops?
Replies: 76
Views: 9779

Re: How does extreme cold affect flight ops?

Here are a few items: ⋅ Potable Water Freezes. Airplanes parked overnight may need the tank drained ⋅ Hoses to fill potable water can freeze, which may be difficult to service airplanes ⋅ Rampers call in sick and must limit amount of time outside slowing down turns. &sd...

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by Newbiepilot
Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:35 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A321LR current and future airline seat configurations
Replies: 37
Views: 13374

Re: Airbus A321LR current and future airline seat configurations

I wonder if five abreast premium economy seats might be a good option for the A321LR ? Norwegian could use the same premium economy seats that they have on their 787. The problem with 5 abreast for premium economy is that the middle seat is not of equal value. Many would prefer an aisle seat in the...

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by Newbiepilot
Sun Jan 27, 2019 11:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Philippine Airlines plans to develop Manila into a gateway of Southeast Asia/South Asia toward North America
Replies: 50
Views: 9616

Re: Philippine Airlines plans to develop Manila into a gateway of Southeast Asia/South Asia toward North America

slcdeltarumd11 wrote:
PAL is not in a Good geographical location. Buy them a map. Doomed for failure.


Depends where you are flying. Going through MNL to get to SGN, KUL, DPS, CGK, etc is not out of the way.

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by Newbiepilot
Sun Jan 27, 2019 6:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BAW & 788 service to Caribbean
Replies: 6
Views: 1446

Re: BAW & 788 service to Caribbean

If the 787-8 was capable of making it to LHR from the 7,000ft runway at GCM, I’m sure BA would be interested in flying LHR-GCM, but I don’t think it can Actually if far more to do with the Caribbean network predominantly operating from Gatwick and high leisure demand on most routes. Other than Nassa...

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by Newbiepilot
Sun Jan 27, 2019 4:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Etihad to cancel a "significant amount" of A350 Order according to Aviation Analyst
Replies: 188
Views: 51572

Re: Etihad to cancel a "significant amount" of A350 Order according to Aviation Analyst

I just learned that EY will be actually receiving the first 5 A350-1000 due to an strong dispute with Airbus which kinda forced Etihad to receive those frames ... We have heard a lot of rumors after the first frame entered final assemble but in fact there is no crew receiving training to operate th...

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by Newbiepilot
Sat Jan 26, 2019 1:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: NSA+NMA: Could Boeing do them both together (again)?
Replies: 133
Views: 17331

Re: NSA+NMA: Could Boeing do them both together (again)?

Although it will take a lot of orders to sustain MAX production at current and shortly higher production rates to 2030 - unless Airbus does something to make the Max uncompetitive it should be fine. It does well against the A320 and the -10 seems fine at shorter ranges against A321. Boeing's bigges...

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by Newbiepilot
Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: NSA+NMA: Could Boeing do them both together (again)?
Replies: 133
Views: 17331

Re: NSA+NMA: Could Boeing do them both together (again)?

That is why it makes sense for NMA to be 7W and then you can reuse Fuselage/Nose/Systems on NSA with different Wingbox/wing/gear/tail. A lot of the work will be done on NMA and you can then optimize NMA before building NSA at 60 per month. There is not enough time before MAX orders dry up to do a c...

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by Newbiepilot
Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: a MTOW increase on 787-10 to compete with A359?
Replies: 605
Views: 89705

Re: a MTOW increase on 787-10 to compete with A359?

The OEW difference between the 787-9 and 787-10 is about 15,000lbs, which is equivalent to about 600 nautical miles worth of fuel. That should result in the 787-10 taking about the same payload 600nm less than the 787-9. We know airlines put more seats. 50 more seats represents around 15,000lbs or a...

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by Newbiepilot
Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DTW Closed due to Snow and Ice
Replies: 68
Views: 11910

Re: DTW Closed due to Snow and Ice

AA MIA-DTW is inbound. Eta in a hour. Will be interesting to see if it makes it on the ground in DTW. Nothing else currently showing until DL AMS flight All inbound flights are now held until at least 930. We will see what happens with this flight. AA had a MIA flight get as far as Kentucky last ni...

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by Newbiepilot
Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DTW Closed due to Snow and Ice
Replies: 68
Views: 11910

Re: DTW Closed due to Snow and Ice

Probably not 100 flights but more in the range of 30-40. Basically all the inbound for the last arrival bank around 8-9pm diverted, plus the red eyes that launched with the intent the airport would have been open by early morning. Many of the later RONs cancelled like the late arrivals from Msp, At...

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by Newbiepilot
Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DTW Closed due to Snow and Ice
Replies: 68
Views: 11910

Re: DTW Closed due to Snow and Ice

This will be an interesting recovery. There are also a number of flights from yesterday evening that diverted and crew had to go to rest. Overnight diversions aren’t that easy to recover from. DTW closed with many inbound flights. I am curious what the number of diversions was, but I wouldn’t be sur...

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by Newbiepilot
Mon Jan 21, 2019 2:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Would it be better if United shifted their Newark Hub to JFK?
Replies: 104
Views: 16078

Re: Would it be better if United shifted their Newark Hub to JFK?

Newark has huge O/D that is high yielding. UA dominated the airport and has enough of a network to allow some feed to help fill long haul flights. On the New Jersey side, Newark has strong OD for short haul and long haul. JFK has strong demand for long haul, but LGA has better short haul demand. The...

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by Newbiepilot
Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JetBlue stands out today at BOS - (but not in a good way)
Replies: 38
Views: 11559

Re: JetBlue stands out today at BOS - (but not in a good way)

LHUSA wrote:
Wasn’t the OP banned for a bit? Can we go back to that?


That would be nice. He is trolling in the UA diversion to YYR thread as well

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by Newbiepilot
Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA 179 diversion to Goose Bay 1/19
Replies: 96
Views: 20205

Re: UA 179 diversion to Goose Bay 1/19

so it looks like the rescue flight also ran into an operational issue? any updates? according to flightaware, there is a UA 777 enroute from YYR to EWR now and there is also a UA 777 scheduled for tomorrow. I am guessing tomorrow's 777 is the one that went mechanical and today;s is the rescue fligh...

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by Newbiepilot
Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: NSA+NMA: Could Boeing do them both together (again)?
Replies: 133
Views: 17331

Re: NSA+NMA: Could Boeing do them both together (again)?

Keeping a close eye on margins is something Airbus should start doing. Some interesting stats: Where Airbus has 87 airline orders for the A320NEO, Boeing has 78. Where the average order size for the A320NEO is 69, the average for the 737MAX is 52. 27 of the 87 A320NEO airline customers would be con...

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by Newbiepilot
Sun Jan 20, 2019 2:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA 179 diversion to Goose Bay 1/19
Replies: 96
Views: 20205

Re: UA 179 diversion to Goose Bay 1/19

Appears a Rescue Flight has been set-up; UA 2758 Now scheduled to depart EWR at 0730 Local for YYR. Ouch. A mechanical on top of a medical diversion is terrible for the passengers. The rescue flight is going EWR-YYR-EWR due to duty limitations. The passengers will have gone on a day long journey to...

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by Newbiepilot
Sun Jan 20, 2019 2:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA 179 diversion to Goose Bay 1/19
Replies: 96
Views: 20205

Re: UA 179 diversion to Goose Bay 1/19

There was a pax who suffered seizures, hence the medical diversion. The crew duty time will be exceed if they continue to HKG. if that is in fact the case, seems like a bad operational decision by UA. Why not fly to SFO, surely they don't have to worry about duty times from Goose to SFO and once at...

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by Newbiepilot
Sun Jan 20, 2019 4:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA 179 diversion to Goose Bay 1/19
Replies: 96
Views: 20205

Re: UA 179 diversion to Goose Bay 1/19

According to flightaware, they're going to fly back to EWR: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL179/history/20190119/2027Z/CYYR/KEWR Is this just a flightaware bug? Or is there another reason for this? I would say its become a crewing issue, with EWR-HKG at around 16 hours there would only be a ...

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by Newbiepilot
Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: NSA+NMA: Could Boeing do them both together (again)?
Replies: 133
Views: 17331

Re: NSA+NMA: Could Boeing do them both together (again)?

There is a lot of buzz and excitement regarding the NMA in the media unlike an NSA, which is commonly suggested as a way to disparage the 737MAX despite it having just reached 5,000 orders. The 737MAX is here to stay for a while with no signs of its orders slowing down. It did beat the A320neo in o...

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