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by timz
Sat Oct 06, 2018 11:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LGW L1011 Timetable services
Replies: 76
Views: 8544

Re: LGW L1011 Timetable services

I'm guessing EA never considered flying LGW-MIA nonstop with an L1011.

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by timz
Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DTW-JFK 1964
Replies: 1
Views: 712

Re: DTW-JFK 1964

In 1/64 AA had six weekday nonstops DTW-JFK, but the timetable only identifies one -- the 1924 arrival was a 990.

In 7/64 AA had three nonstops: the 1027 arrival was a 707 and the 1357 and 1932 arrivals were 990s.

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by timz
Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Will UA ever relaunch the RTW flight?
Replies: 43
Views: 5873

Re: Will UA ever relaunch the RTW flight?

UA's 2001 timetables show it as 744 all the way, LAX to LAX.

TWA may have scheduled a 707 all the way RTW in 1969, for a short time. They never had a RTW before that, and don't think they went all the way anytime after 1969.

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by timz
Sat Oct 06, 2018 7:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Will UA ever relaunch the RTW flight?
Replies: 43
Views: 5873

Re: Will UA ever relaunch the RTW flight?

nmcalba wrote:
with the distance requirement is a 2 stop RTW trip possible using currently scheduled services?

If you mean two connections, then as I recall LAX-Dubai-SYD-LAX is legit.

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by timz
Fri Oct 05, 2018 8:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LGW L1011 Timetable services
Replies: 76
Views: 8544

Re: LGW L1011 Timetable services

Cunard wrote:
TW705 LGW 11.00 JFK 13.35 daily ex Wednesday and Friday

That's what the 9/83 timetable shows. No TWA flights at LGW in the 4/83, 7/84, 1/85 timetables; in 6/86 LGW-STL was the only one.

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by timz
Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Interflug flights to/from Rome on November 1989
Replies: 3
Views: 1106

Re: Interflug flights to/from Rome on November 1989

In July 1989, two A310s a week SXF-FCO. Far as we can tell from the OAG, they didn't go any farther; the weekly flight Berlin to Tripoli was an Il-62 via Budapest.

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by timz
Tue Oct 02, 2018 11:43 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: 747-8 flap speeds
Replies: 29
Views: 6193

Re: 747-8 flap speeds

In the past, heavy departures would often ask departure control to allow a 270-knot (or whatever) climb below 10000 ft, and the controller would approve. Dunno if today's departures still need that.

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by timz
Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: When did CO drop FAR?
Replies: 13
Views: 2168

Re: When did CO drop FAR?

BoeingGuy wrote:
Did they still serve RDD then?

FL dropped RDD-SMF-DEN before 1986.

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by timz
Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: When did CO drop FAR?
Replies: 13
Views: 2168

Re: When did CO drop FAR?

10/86 OAG shows no CO or FL at Fargo.

In the 2/87, two CO M80s a day DEN-BIS-FAR.

In 8/87, one M80 BUR-DEN-FAR and one M80 BFL-BUR-DEN-BIS-FAR.

In 11/87, one 733 DEN-FAR and one 733 BFL-BUR-DEN-BIS-FAR.

In 2/88, nothing.

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by timz
Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Did United operate EWR-NRT prior to merger with CO
Replies: 37
Views: 5626

Re: Did United operate EWR-NRT prior to merger with CO

UA857 wrote:
http://www.departedflights.com/NRT96intro.html does not show Newark.

Timetable says NRT-EWR ended earlier in 1996.

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by timz
Fri Sep 07, 2018 10:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Did United operate EWR-NRT prior to merger with CO
Replies: 37
Views: 5626

Re: Did United operate EWR-NRT prior to merger with CO

Back when United had 747-200s did they operated EWR-NRT? No, United operated JFK-NRT with 2 B747-222B's then B747-422's up to the time of the merger then operated from EWR after the merger Like he said, UA did fly 747SPs and occasional 747-200s EWR-NRT nonstop years before merging. Look at a timeta...

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by timz
Tue Aug 28, 2018 10:19 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Airline History @ KISP
Replies: 40
Views: 2383

Re: Airline History @ KISP

Art at ISP wrote:
Northeastern, I believe, flew DC8s and A300s into ISP for a while.

ISP's longest runway was 6000 feet-- shortest runway ever for a scheduled DC-8?

Airport Activity Statistics shows 942 DC-8-62 departures from ISP in 1984, plus a few -50s.

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by timz
Sun Aug 26, 2018 8:37 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Flights circumventing certain territories
Replies: 29
Views: 4754

Re: Flights circumventing certain territories

Some airlines had a shortcut to Europe, of course with Soviet permission and to financial benefit to Aeroflot, for example this joint JAL-Aeroflot service: https://www.airliners.net/photo/Aeroflot-Japan-Air-Lines-JAL/Tupolev-Tu-114/103956 103956 Such flights always stopped in the USSR until ... when?

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by timz
Wed Aug 22, 2018 3:20 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Previous scheduled flights to Greenland
Replies: 9
Views: 1431

Re: scheduled flights to Greenland

You remember SAS started CPH-Sondre Stromfjord-Winnipeg-Los Angeles in 1954. DC-8s did CPH-SFJ-LAX until 1966 when SEA replaced SFJ.

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by timz
Mon Aug 20, 2018 5:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SFO to Europe
Replies: 26
Views: 6783

Re: SFO to Europe

My guess is that the first truly regular SFO to Europe nonstop flights didn't happen until the late 1970's Boeing says the 707-320B could do 5000 nmi with 141 pax plus bags https://www.boeing.com/resources/boeingdotcom/commercial/airports/acaps/707.pdf But maybe the 9700-ft runway would be a proble...

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by timz
Sun Aug 19, 2018 11:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SFO to Europe
Replies: 26
Views: 6783

Re: SFO to Europe

Doubt it. Pretty sure no 747 nonstop, and pretty surer no 707 nonstop.

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by timz
Sun Aug 19, 2018 9:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SFO to Europe
Replies: 26
Views: 6783

Re: SFO to Europe

In summer 1963 PA still scheduled SFO-LHR at 12 hours, presumably with a 707-320 and a stop -- ditto in summer 1964. So TWA was apparently the first to fly a -320B nonstop to Europe: in summer 1963 their SFO-ORY schedule was 10-55, and in 1964 it was 10-35. (Longest runway at SFO: 9700 feet.) In Aug...

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by timz
Sat Aug 18, 2018 9:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SFO to Europe
Replies: 26
Views: 6783

Re: SFO to Europe

TWA's timetables always said "fuel stop may be necessary" -- probably the 1649 did succeed in doing SFO-LHR nonstop now and then, and maybe even SFO-ORY. Likewise, we don't know how often PA's 707-320s made it nonstop SFO-LHR. When they started SFO's longest runway was around 9500 ft, so t...

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by timz
Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 60 years ago today, Pan Am received its first 707
Replies: 107
Views: 12268

Re: 60 years ago today, Pan Am received its first 707

The Esso Air World article was Nov-Dec 1961 -- it says in four months May thru Aug 1959 PA 707s did NY to Lon 73% nonstop 27% 1-stop NY to Paris 35% - 64% Boston to Paris 87% - 13% London to NY 11% - 88% Paris to NY 0% - 78% Paris to Boston 0% - 98% If the percentages don't total 100 then the rest w...

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by timz
Fri Aug 17, 2018 9:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 60 years ago today, Pan Am received its first 707
Replies: 107
Views: 12268

Re: 60 years ago today, Pan Am received its first 707

Aviation Week for 15 Dec 1958 says the 707s that NA was borrowing from PA had 44 four-across seats and 65 six-across. (Plus the "lounge", presumably.) When PA started 707s, they couldn't always leave IDL at MTOW since the Port Authority said they were supposed to be at 1200 ft altitude by...

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by timz
Fri Aug 17, 2018 6:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 60 years ago today, Pan Am received its first 707
Replies: 107
Views: 12268

Re: 60 years ago today, Pan Am received its first 707

https://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive ... 00678.html
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He asked about the 707s in 1958, which didn't have that many seats. Something like 115 total, looks like

https://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive ... 00678.html

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by timz
Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:16 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Multiple aircraft taxing across an active runway at once?
Replies: 22
Views: 2835

Re: Multiple aircraft taxing across an active runway at once?

LH707330 wrote:
the controller probably told them "hold short until the A330 turns off, then go."

Do controllers ever do that?

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by timz
Thu Aug 16, 2018 10:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 60 years ago today, Pan Am received its first 707
Replies: 107
Views: 12268

Re: 60 years ago today, Pan Am received its first 707

superjeff wrote:
Pitch was 38" in First, 34" in Economy, as required by IATA regulations.

34 inches in Economy was the maximum IATA allowed, or the minimum?

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by timz
Wed Aug 15, 2018 5:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: NW service on the Osaka-Sydney route
Replies: 19
Views: 4613

Re: NW service on the Osaka-Sydney route

Melb94 wrote:
Does anyone have the schedules for NW flights to Sydney?

What do you want to know?

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by timz
Wed Aug 15, 2018 5:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 60 years ago today, Pan Am received its first 707
Replies: 107
Views: 12268

Re: 60 years ago today, Pan Am received its first 707

No doubt PA's 707s were always four-across in First and six-across in Tourist or Economy or whatever it was. IATA might have set the minimum seat pitch? Maybe 34 inches?

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by timz
Tue Aug 14, 2018 5:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: NW service on the Osaka-Sydney route
Replies: 19
Views: 4613

Re: NW service on the Osaka-Sydney route

Cover of NW's 6/91 timetable says SYD flights to start 1 July. 8/91 timetable shows 4 flights a week SYD-HNL. 15 Dec 91 and 4/92 timetables show one 747 a week SYD to HNL, three 744s to LAX, two 744s and one 747 to OSA. 6/92 and 7/92: same except SYD-OSA all 744. 8/92: same except add two DC-10 a we...

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by timz
Mon Aug 13, 2018 5:17 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: History of USA transcontinental flights?
Replies: 17
Views: 2415

Re: History of USA transcontinental flights?

Like I said, the first westward nonstops were AA DC-7s. First eastward was TWA.

Turns out two WA DC-10s a day LAX-MIA in the 3/77 OAG.

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by timz
Mon Aug 13, 2018 2:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Did the DeHaviland Comet ever fly in the US?
Replies: 39
Views: 6290

Re: Did the DeHaviland Comet ever fly in the US?

The Air-Britain book says the PA order was in 10/52, for three Comet 3s and seven options. Mexicana ordered three 4Cs in 10/59, so probably no connection to PA's order.

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by timz
Mon Aug 13, 2018 1:47 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: History of USA transcontinental flights?
Replies: 17
Views: 2415

Re: History of USA transcontinental flights?

Yeah, I forgot NE's 727s in 1969.

WA's 10/78 timetable shows LAX-MIA -- according to the 7/76 OAG it was to start the following month. So seven transcon-nonstop airlines by then.

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by timz
Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Did United ever fly JFK-MIA?
Replies: 30
Views: 5274

Re: Did United ever fly JFK-MIA?

http://www.departedflights.com/UAMIAhub.html

No JFK-MIA for most of the 1990s.
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UALMMFlyer wrote:
UA had daily flights between Miami and JFK/LGA/EWR for over a decade.


If you look at the timetables, they'll likely agree with

http://www.departedflights.com/UAMIAhub.html

No JFK-MIA for most of the 1990s.

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by timz
Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:34 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: History of USA transcontinental flights?
Replies: 17
Views: 2415

Re: History of USA transcontinental flights?

In summer 1947 TWA showed a fuel-stop-may-be-necessary "nonstop" LAX-LGA. No one knows how many actual nonstops they made. Around October 1953 TWA started L1049 nonstops LAX-IDL, eastward only, then in November AA started nonstop DC-7s both ways. The westward DC-7 schedule was 7 hours 55 m...

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by timz
Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Did the DeHaviland Comet ever fly in the US?
Replies: 39
Views: 6290

Re: Did the DeHaviland Comet ever fly in the US?

Guess those were RAF Comets that flew across the US to Honolulu and Christmas Island? Comet 2s, maybe? They flew Travis to HNL, didn't they?

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by timz
Mon Aug 06, 2018 1:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Did United ever fly JFK-MIA?
Replies: 30
Views: 5274

Re: Did United ever fly JFK-MIA?

Looks like departedflights.com is right -- 7/95 OAG shows UA 993 JFK-MIA-CNF.

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by timz
Sun Aug 05, 2018 8:51 pm
Forum: Aviation Photography
Topic: Why so many LAX Overhead Pics?
Replies: 30
Views: 10754

Re: Why so many LAX Overhead Pics?

atcsundevil wrote:
Pretty much every Class Bravo airport has one of these. It's called a Class Bravo Transition.

Does any other Class B airport show a Transition on the chart, as at LAX and PHX?

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by timz
Fri Aug 03, 2018 5:41 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Tijuana airport and proximity to US border
Replies: 5
Views: 1142

Re: Tijuana airport and proximity to US border

The border is less than 1600 meters west of the west end of runway 27 -- do all the SIDs require that quick of a turn?

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by timz
Fri Jul 20, 2018 5:16 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: SDQ 1983
Replies: 11
Views: 2164

Re: SDQ 1983

12/82 ABC Guide shows EA-AA-QH-DO-LM-AV-VA -- also PQ Convairs, a weekly RG A300 and Iberia D10s.

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by timz
Thu Jul 19, 2018 7:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United DC-10 Omaha Eppley Airfield
Replies: 6
Views: 1544

Re: United DC-10 Omaha Eppley Airfield

He's right-- the 2/96 timetable shows one D10 a day, flight 331 to DEN leaving 1850.

Two a day in 7/96: flight 317 lv 1905 to DEN-SEA, flt 835 lv 0720 to DEN-SFO.

Two a day in 1/97: 305 lv 0650 XSu to DEN-LAS and 1197 lv 1610 to DEN-SEA.

No D10s to ORD in the 2/96 -- didn't check the others.

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by timz
Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United DC-10 Omaha Eppley Airfield
Replies: 6
Views: 1544

Re: United DC-10 Omaha Eppley Airfield

Airport Activity Statistics shows six UA DC-10 departures from OMA during 1990, two in 1991 and one in 1993. Don't see any other years at hathitrust.org.

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by timz
Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:23 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Did I fly an MD-80 or a 727?
Replies: 8
Views: 2813

Re: Was it an MD-80 or a 727?

Airport Activity Statistics says in 1993 US Air had 3232 departures from Phoenix: 1913 737-400, 1302 737-300, and 17 757. No 727, no MD80.

(That one is online, at hathitrust.org.)

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by timz
Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:56 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Did I fly an MD-80 or a 727?
Replies: 8
Views: 2813

Re: Was it an MD-80 or a 727?

dennypayne wrote:
clearly from your post they have data going even further back.

Maybe they do. My info was from a paper OAG.

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by timz
Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:42 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Did I fly an MD-80 or a 727?
Replies: 8
Views: 2813

Re: Was it an MD-80 or a 727?

4/93 OAG shows two PHX-CLT nonstops, a morning 733 and a noon 734. One US* flight a day PSP-PHX, a Beech 1900. Just says US Air Express.

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by timz
Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:34 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: How does the lack of crosswind runways at airports without them not cause issues?
Replies: 23
Views: 3313

Re: How does the lack of crosswind runways at airports without them not cause issues?

IFlyVeryLittle wrote:
TPA has parallel 36s and 18s and was originally laid out in the early 1950s.

TPA opened with no parallel runways.

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by timz
Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:27 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Top ten US airports by operations June 2018
Replies: 22
Views: 5409

Re: Top ten US airports by operations June 2018

Those are the top ten by airline operations?

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by timz
Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:52 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Runway slope difference
Replies: 19
Views: 2744

Re: Runway slope difference

If you're on a 3-degree descent to a runway with a 1% slope, it will look quite different from the same runway in the other direction.

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by timz
Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 747-100 vs 777-9
Replies: 19
Views: 6180

Re: 747-100 vs 777-9

Looks like a Comet 4 burned around 5-6 kg per km in cruise. At the same seat pitch, it carried... a quarter of a 787-9's seat count?

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by timz
Mon Jul 09, 2018 5:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 747-100 vs 777-9
Replies: 19
Views: 6180

Re: 747-100 vs 777-9

IATA claims the 787 burns 18% of the fuel that a Comet 4 did? Per passenger-km, they maybe meant?

Sounds unlikely, if you're comparing them fairly, with the same seat pitch on the same trip. I'll see if Stroud's book says how much fuel a Comet 4 used NY-London. How much does a 787 use?

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by timz
Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:57 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: How does the lack of crosswind runways at airports without them not cause issues?
Replies: 23
Views: 3313

Re: How does the lack of crosswind runways at airports without them not cause issues?

Obvious question: what's different about today's airliners? In 1940-1950 no one would build a major airport with one-direction runways-- apparently a Constellation or B377 couldn't handle crosswinds as well as a 777. Why not? Wonder what airliners used the N-S runway at LAX. 100 ft wide as I recall-...

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by timz
Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aeroflot TU-104 next to UA DC-7: where?
Replies: 10
Views: 3301

Re: Aeroflot TU-104 next to UA DC-7: where?

One of the trade magazines mentioned that all UA's DC-7s had prop spinners by the end of... 1956, I think it was, but might have been 1957.

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by timz
Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Could Pan AM have flown some in state domestic routes
Replies: 60
Views: 5726

Re: Could Pan AM have flown some in state domestic routes

Nonstops from LAX in 8/79:

1/week DC8 Bogota
1/week DC8 Guayaquil
3/week DC8 Lima

1/week 747 Bogota
2/week 747 Santiago

All the DC8s originated in SFO.

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by timz
Fri Jul 06, 2018 2:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Could Pan AM have flown some in state domestic routes
Replies: 60
Views: 5726

Re: Could Pan AM have flown some in state domestic routes

Sure nuff, the 1979 timetable shows a weekly DC8 nonstop Guayaquil to LA. It lists the LAX-SFO DC8s with no indication that you couldn't buy a ticket.

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