In July 1989, two A310s a week SXF-FCO. Far as we can tell from the OAG, they didn't go any farther; the weekly flight Berlin to Tripoli was an Il-62 via Budapest.Jump to post
UA857 wrote:http://www.departedflights.com/NRT96intro.html does not show Newark.
Back when United had 747-200s did they operated EWR-NRT? No, United operated JFK-NRT with 2 B747-222B's then B747-422's up to the time of the merger then operated from EWR after the merger Like he said, UA did fly 747SPs and occasional 747-200s EWR-NRT nonstop years before merging. Look at a timeta...Jump to post
Some airlines had a shortcut to Europe, of course with Soviet permission and to financial benefit to Aeroflot, for example this joint JAL-Aeroflot service: https://www.airliners.net/photo/Aeroflot-Japan-Air-Lines-JAL/Tupolev-Tu-114/103956 103956 Such flights always stopped in the USSR until ... when?Jump to post
My guess is that the first truly regular SFO to Europe nonstop flights didn't happen until the late 1970's Boeing says the 707-320B could do 5000 nmi with 141 pax plus bags https://www.boeing.com/resources/boeingdotcom/commercial/airports/acaps/707.pdf But maybe the 9700-ft runway would be a proble...Jump to post
In summer 1963 PA still scheduled SFO-LHR at 12 hours, presumably with a 707-320 and a stop -- ditto in summer 1964. So TWA was apparently the first to fly a -320B nonstop to Europe: in summer 1963 their SFO-ORY schedule was 10-55, and in 1964 it was 10-35. (Longest runway at SFO: 9700 feet.) In Aug...Jump to post
TWA's timetables always said "fuel stop may be necessary" -- probably the 1649 did succeed in doing SFO-LHR nonstop now and then, and maybe even SFO-ORY. Likewise, we don't know how often PA's 707-320s made it nonstop SFO-LHR. When they started SFO's longest runway was around 9500 ft, so t...Jump to post
The Esso Air World article was Nov-Dec 1961 -- it says in four months May thru Aug 1959 PA 707s did NY to Lon 73% nonstop 27% 1-stop NY to Paris 35% - 64% Boston to Paris 87% - 13% London to NY 11% - 88% Paris to NY 0% - 78% Paris to Boston 0% - 98% If the percentages don't total 100 then the rest w...Jump to post
Aviation Week for 15 Dec 1958 says the 707s that NA was borrowing from PA had 44 four-across seats and 65 six-across. (Plus the "lounge", presumably.) When PA started 707s, they couldn't always leave IDL at MTOW since the Port Authority said they were supposed to be at 1200 ft altitude by...Jump to post
He asked about the 707s in 1958, which didn't have that many seats. Something like 115 total, looks like
https://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive ... 00678.html
LH707330 wrote:the controller probably told them "hold short until the A330 turns off, then go."
superjeff wrote:Pitch was 38" in First, 34" in Economy, as required by IATA regulations.
No doubt PA's 707s were always four-across in First and six-across in Tourist or Economy or whatever it was. IATA might have set the minimum seat pitch? Maybe 34 inches?Jump to post
Cover of NW's 6/91 timetable says SYD flights to start 1 July. 8/91 timetable shows 4 flights a week SYD-HNL. 15 Dec 91 and 4/92 timetables show one 747 a week SYD to HNL, three 744s to LAX, two 744s and one 747 to OSA. 6/92 and 7/92: same except SYD-OSA all 744. 8/92: same except add two DC-10 a we...Jump to post
UALMMFlyer wrote:UA had daily flights between Miami and JFK/LGA/EWR for over a decade.
In summer 1947 TWA showed a fuel-stop-may-be-necessary "nonstop" LAX-LGA. No one knows how many actual nonstops they made. Around October 1953 TWA started L1049 nonstops LAX-IDL, eastward only, then in November AA started nonstop DC-7s both ways. The westward DC-7 schedule was 7 hours 55 m...Jump to post
He's right-- the 2/96 timetable shows one D10 a day, flight 331 to DEN leaving 1850.
Two a day in 7/96: flight 317 lv 1905 to DEN-SEA, flt 835 lv 0720 to DEN-SFO.
Two a day in 1/97: 305 lv 0650 XSu to DEN-LAS and 1197 lv 1610 to DEN-SEA.
No D10s to ORD in the 2/96 -- didn't check the others.
IFlyVeryLittle wrote:TPA has parallel 36s and 18s and was originally laid out in the early 1950s.
IATA claims the 787 burns 18% of the fuel that a Comet 4 did? Per passenger-km, they maybe meant?
Sounds unlikely, if you're comparing them fairly, with the same seat pitch on the same trip. I'll see if Stroud's book says how much fuel a Comet 4 used NY-London. How much does a 787 use?
Obvious question: what's different about today's airliners? In 1940-1950 no one would build a major airport with one-direction runways-- apparently a Constellation or B377 couldn't handle crosswinds as well as a 777. Why not? Wonder what airliners used the N-S runway at LAX. 100 ft wide as I recall-...Jump to post
Nonstops from LAX in 8/79:
1/week DC8 Bogota
1/week DC8 Guayaquil
3/week DC8 Lima
1/week 747 Bogota
2/week 747 Santiago
All the DC8s originated in SFO.
Sure nuff, the 1979 timetable shows a weekly DC8 nonstop Guayaquil to LA. It lists the LAX-SFO DC8s with no indication that you couldn't buy a ticket.Jump to post