They have been pretty no-frills for quite some time now. But I have flown them several times, and I haven't had any bad experiences. Not great either. (Can you see a trend in the replies?) <img src="/discussions/graphics/smile.gif" ALT="Smile"> I have already booked my family's X-mas trip with...
Jump to postIt's not even close for me - <b>Air Tahiti Nui</b> are in a clas by themselves: <br><center><font color="#EEEEEE" size="1" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva"><a href="/open.file/363239/L/" target="_blank">View Large</a> <a href="/open.file/363239/M/" target="_blank">View Medium<br><IMG SRC="/photos/sma...
Jump to postWhy don't they actually build the aircraft before boasting about how long it will remain in service?
Jump to postJaws, Yes, the A332 is available with the same <acronym title="Royal Air Force (United Kingdom)">RR</acronym> Trent engines as the A333. It just seems like the A332 would be the ideal aircraft for almost all of SAS's north-amrican routes - Especially <acronym title="Oslo - Gardermoen (OSL / ENGM), N...
Jump to postThe next widebody aircraft SAS gets, IMO, will be the A330-200. It just seems like a better fit on most routes.
Jump to postS.p.a.s.,
Airbus last all-new design was the A320
Sure, if you don't count the A380, which is well in progress...
A good further shrink of the A330-200 would have to have a lighter/smaller wing to be effective. And by then, you might as well make it the A350 or something. (or A300NG)
Jump to post<i>"I don't feel the the A-380 is unsafe, however, if history proves, the next target of an on-board bomb would be the biggest aircraft the terrorists can get their hands on. That aircraft being the A-380."</i> Uh-huh. Because terrorists only target 747's these days, don't they? <img src="/dis...
Jump to postIt's just an artist rendering... I highly doubt that the whole fuselage will be curved like that. Ain't gonna happen! The 7E7 fuselage will be a straight tube - mark my words.
Jump to postThe A(E)316 and A(E)317 - if made years ago - would have been looked and been spec'd almost exactly like the Embraer 170 and 190.
Jump to postI flew <b><acronym title="Copenhagen - Kastrup (CPH / EKCH), Denmark">CPH</acronym>-<acronym title="Athens (- Hellinikon) (ATH / LGAT) (closed), Greece">ATH</acronym>-<acronym title="Dubai - International (DXB / OMDB), United Arab Emirates">DXB</acronym>-CMB-<acronym title="Singapore - Changi (SIN /...
Jump to postThe A330-200 seats 211 in Air France layout. Isn't it a great 757 replacement?
'Nuff said.
What is so confusing?
- 300 pax in all economy configuration
- 200 pax in three-class configuration
All in the the same fuselage, the "-200" model.
The later stretched 7E7 would seat more.
Yes, you are right, I stand corrected. I misread another thread.
Jump to postKeesje, <i>B757 is 2500-3000 range 200 seater, 7e7 will be to. But 7e7 is not replacing 757 because it is a narrow body... Brilliant.</i> Umm... 7E7 (non-ER) range: 6,600nm, more than <b>twice</b> the 757 range. 7E7 capcity: 200 in <b>three-class</b> configuration, not 200 in all economy on the 757....
Jump to post<i>Will this 3,000 nm variant be a narrowbody?</i> <b>Of course not.</b> The "7E7 replacing the 757" myth has always been wishful thinking by some on these forums. The 7E7 will be slightly wider then the A330, still seating 2-4-2. The shortrange version of the 7E7 will be very similar in dimensions ...
Jump to postNote that this 200 capacity of the 7E7 is in three-class layout.
It is much bigger than the 757, which only can seat 200 in a one-class layout.
I predict the baseline version will be of similar length (or longer) than the 767-300. The stretch will be similar to the -400.
That shorter range version would have pretty much the same specs as the <b>A300-600</b>. Similar range, cabin width, capacity. An A300NG. <img src="/discussions/graphics/smile.gif" ALT="Smile"> I'm suprised it took airlines to tell Boeing that they wanted a short-range aircraft, instead of Boe...
Jump to postConcorder influential? Hardly! Airline trafic before and after has not changed much. Don't let your personal feelings for the aircraft get in the way of the facts. And advanced? For its time, sure. But a much modern replacement could easily be built by either Boeing or Airbus today, if they felt lik...
Jump to postHow about <acronym title="Miami - International (MIA / KMIA), USA - Florida">MIA</acronym>/<acronym title="Fort Lauderdale - Hollywood International (FLL / KFLL), USA - Florida">FLL</acronym>? <acronym title="Orlando - International (McCoy) (MCO / KMCO), USA - Florida">MCO</acronym> and Sanford (wid...
Jump to postContrails, The 7E7 is most certainly a <b>widebody</b>. It will have Airbus-like 2+4+2 seating, and even be a few inches wider than the A300/330/340, according to information released so far. (Although it could change) You are probably thinking it is a narrowbody due to all the wishful thinking on t...
Jump to postSo the air force also wants an underpowered and under-ranged aircraft? Good for them!
Here are some in-service shots: <br><center><font color="#EEEEEE" size="1" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva"><a href="/open.file/394521/L/" target="_blank">View Large</a> <a href="/open.file/394521/M/" target="_blank">View Medium<br><IMG SRC="/photos/small/1/2/5/394521.jpg" ALT="Click here for bigger ...
Jump to postMadViking, The only remaining Airbus widebody left on order is coming this winter, and that's an A330-300. But that is replacing the last 767 on U.S. routes, I believe. (Which will complete SAS long-haul fleet renewal: 7 A340, 4 A330) SAS does have options for several more A330/340's, but they have ...
Jump to postThe problem with sharing an aircraft between Basrah and <acronym title="Johannesburg - International (Jan Smuts) (JNB / FAJS), South Africa">JNB</acronym> is that it really requires two aircraft for daily flights to <acronym title="Johannesburg - International (Jan Smuts) (JNB / FAJS), South Africa"...
Jump to postThe shortest path from <acronym title="London - Heathrow (LHR / EGLL), United Kingdom">LHR</acronym> to <acronym title="Sydney - Kingsford Smith International (Mascot) (SYD / YSSY), Australia - New South Wales">SYD</acronym> is almost straight through <acronym title="Hong Kong - Chek Lap Kok Interna...
Jump to postSince both SAS and LOT (soon) are in the Star Alliance, I guess Basra can become a new Star Alliance hub!
One of the left-over 767's would probably be best for this route...
Jump to postThe 7E7 is still a "paper" aircraft - in other words, not much of a marketing leverage for anything unless some detailed and realistic specifications are forthcoming.
Jump to postWell, both Boeing and Airbus have given up to around ~40% discounts in the past, so this is really nothing new. No airline buys at "sticker price".
Jump to postRe: "Top Gun" - Yes, they were either F-5's or T-38's. (very similar) Som other funny things in "Air Force 1": - <acronym title="Carpatian Air Transport (Hungary)">KC</acronym>-10 (?) tanker approaches AF1 from above and behind, close enough that the AF1's tail would have hit the tanker. - F-15's wi...
Jump to postIf SAS are looking to expand their long-haul fleet, I think purchasing a few A330-200's would be a better idea rather than more A340-300's. The smaller capacity would fit some routes better, IMO.
Jump to postMikkel777, that last A333 will be needed for existing routes when the last 767 leaves the fleet.
To expand to new long distance routes, SAS will either have to get new aircraft, or drop some old routes.
SAA-SAL, unlike SNBA, SAS prefers to only fly to destinations where they can have daily flights. (at least during non-war and non-SARS seasons). Daily flights attract business travelers, and higher yields. That's why they have a relatively low number of destinations for their fleet size.
Jump to postI think they are going to the desert... To be scrapped eventually. There really isn't much of a market for used 767's, as far as I know.
And 2-4-2 on SAS' new aribuses is just as good as 2-3-2. You still never have to step over more than one person to get out.
Note that you should also ask the permission from the photographer before posting any modified image in a public forum such as this.
Jump to postWhat I find so amusing is how much space there is on airliners in movies. There's always lots of space both above and below the passenger cabin for terrorists or special forces teams to climb around in. <img src="/discussions/graphics/smile.gif" ALT="Smile"> (See "Executive Decision" for a pri...
Jump to post<i>SAS- When the Star terminal opens/is established. They've always been wanting to serve <acronym title="Miami - International (MIA / KMIA), USA - Florida">MIA</acronym> since about the late 80s. If they do, I could definitley see them serving <acronym title="Miami - International (MIA / KMIA), USA...
Jump to postI used to fly the <acronym title="Air Madagascar">MD</acronym>-90 out of <acronym title="Salt Lake City - International (SLC / KSLC), USA - Utah">SLC</acronym> quite a bit - and I love the aircraft. Very quiet (even sitting by the engines) and it climbs like a rocket. Unfortunately last time it had ...
Jump to postAA737-823, True, but what little specs they have released so far (subject to change of course) show a plane that will be larger than the 767-200, almost as wide as the 777, have a range in excess of the 777-200ER. It clearly is a 767 replacement. The Boeing <acronym title="Philippine Airlines">PR</a...
Jump to postAccording to the PDF, Boeing plans to put 7E7 engines on the "747 advanced" - Well, so much for the theory (or wishful thinking) that the 7E7 engines won't be adaptable to the A330. If Boeing thinks it can be done with the older 747, clearly it will be even easier to attach them to the A330.
Jump to postHere are some new-ish NWA A330 images to wet the appetite: <br><center><font color="#EEEEEE" size="1" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva"><a href="/open.file/382453/L/" target="_blank">View Large</a> <a href="/open.file/382453/M/" target="_blank">View Medium<br><IMG SRC="/photos/small/3/5/4/382453.jpg" ...
Jump to postTrue... But it still would not be a very smart thing to do. In the near future, any incoming passenger liner to Baghdad originating from Tel Aviv will be quite a magnet for SAM's, RPG's, and small arms fire. <img src="/discussions/graphics/smile.gif" ALT="Smile"> I read a report from a aweek o...
Jump to postBeirut, Istanbul, or Cairo sounds like the most likely 1-stop stopovers, if the route happens. But it's only my specualtion.
TLV will be politically impossible, I think.