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by CriticalPoint
Thu Feb 06, 2020 3:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA is acquiring a flight school
Replies: 60
Views: 11307

Re: UA is acquiring a flight school

I still question the realism of the so called “pilot shortage” that every airline and flight school in the USA is blathering on about. Other fields like healthcare have so called shortages in the amount of qualified doctors and nurses, but realistically the openings are only for bottom of the barre...

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by CriticalPoint
Tue Feb 04, 2020 12:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AC MAD-YYZ: major damage to landing gear and engine on takeoff - circling MAD airspace
Replies: 140
Views: 30365

Re: AC MAD-YYZ: major damage to landing gear and engine on takeoff - circling MAD airspace

Out of curiosity...Is the amount of single engine flight time limited by ETOPS in this case? Or as they are flying over terrain they can flight as long as needed on single engine? Some A350s are being delivered without fuel jettison systems too, so it wouldn't be surprising if this 767 doesn't have...

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by CriticalPoint
Sat Feb 01, 2020 5:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Compass Airlines
Replies: 16
Views: 4918

Re: Compass Airlines

Hi all!! Yes, I tried a search and well, there hasn't been alot lately on Compass Airlines. So, they are losing Delta flying. That's the last I heard on them. Anyone know what the future holds for it's workers? It seems like not too long ago, they opened the SEA base. Are all of the SEA based crews...

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by CriticalPoint
Sat Feb 01, 2020 3:59 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Widebody capital now that China suspended
Replies: 43
Views: 6880

Re: Widebody capital now that China suspended

I could see this triggering the main retirement wave of A330s and 777s. No......come on why all the doom and gloom? It is two major cities and it’s a virus. It’ll get beat and the flying will return. We’re talking less than 10 WB aircraft a fleet. If this drags on and millions die In China then yes...

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by CriticalPoint
Sat Feb 01, 2020 3:38 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Widebody capital now that China suspended
Replies: 43
Views: 6880

Re: Widebody capital now that China suspended

I'd guess domestic routes that can take them to backfill max capacity loss and maybe vacation routes like the caribbean. Also, I believe freight costs to China are skyrocketing due to the cancellation of flights and all of the medical supplies they need. I'd be curious if it would make sense (more ...

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by CriticalPoint
Sat Feb 01, 2020 3:35 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Widebody capital now that China suspended
Replies: 43
Views: 6880

Re: Widebody capital now that China suspended

777222LR wrote:
NRT/HND/LHR would be my guesses for the highest concentration of US wide bodies outside of the US.


All are slot restricted you can’t just add service.

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by CriticalPoint
Sat Feb 01, 2020 3:34 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Widebody capital now that China suspended
Replies: 43
Views: 6880

Re: Widebody capital now that China suspended

They could increase TATL and play around with currently unserved routes and test the waters. How does this effect British, they could try some new TATL You can’t just start service out of the blue.......there is no testing you need to sell tickets first. Then what do you do when China returns a cou...

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by CriticalPoint
Tue Jan 28, 2020 5:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: AA To Feature Enhanced Business Class For Upcoming 787-8s
Replies: 35
Views: 7057

Re: Rumor: AA To Feature Enhanced Business Class For Upcoming 787-8s

What upcoming 787-8? American Airlines received all ordered 787-8. 20 ordered, 20 in the fleet now. There are 25 undelivered 787-9 on order. You may be missing this April '18 order: https://thepointsguy.com/news/aa-confirms-dreamliner-order-cancels-a350/ American Airlines currently has 20 Boeing 78...

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by CriticalPoint
Tue Jan 28, 2020 3:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Delta First Class Seats - A321neo
Replies: 120
Views: 20884

Re: New Delta First Class Seats - A321neo

The current pitch is tight, tighter than almost every other US operator except AA’s Oasis. Nearly every first class current seat pitch Delta has is tighter than AA’s Oasis seat pitch. Oasis is spacious compared to current Delta. Oasis: 37” Delta: A319: 35-37” A320: 36” A321: 37” B73G: 35-37” B738:3...

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by CriticalPoint
Sun Jan 26, 2020 6:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777-9 first flight 25 January 2020
Replies: 970
Views: 80874

Re: Boeing 777-9 first flight 25 January 2020

So? AA, DL and UA are the only US carriers that would conceivably order the 777X and all of them got orders in for the previous generation during the last decade. They aren't going to rush a new widebody purchase, and from Boeing's standpoint, entering the market with orders from international heav...

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by CriticalPoint
Wed Jan 22, 2020 7:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A DL 772, Flying LAX-PVG, Makes Emergency Landing And Dumps Fuel On School
Replies: 565
Views: 56891

Re: A DL 772, Flying LAX-PVG, Makes Emergency Landing And Dumps Fuel On School

The aircraft N860DA is finally scheduled to fly again on Jan 24 LAX to Tokyo. It had not flown since it landed Jan 14. https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n860da Any guesses why it did not fly for 10 days? Does compressor stall require engine repair/replacement? Or was it due to inspections...

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by CriticalPoint
Wed Jan 22, 2020 6:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL159 to ICN Diverted to FAI
Replies: 39
Views: 8879

Re: DL159 to ICN Diverted to FAI

luv2cattlecall wrote:
NWAESC wrote:
Still running, just delayed a bit further due to crew rest.


What are the logistical reasons for not bringing spare crew on the rescue plane?


DHs still counts as on Duty......wouldn’t do any good.

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by CriticalPoint
Wed Jan 22, 2020 6:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates adds tech stops to selected U.S destinations
Replies: 43
Views: 16730

Re: Emirates adds tech stops to selected U.S destinations

vegas005 wrote:
why would avoiding Iran require a tech stop on the way to the USA? It is in the wrong direction .... ??


Honest question.....are you a flat earth believer? If not then look in to the shortest distance between 2 points on a sphere.

If you are a flat earther.......then I can’t help you.

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by CriticalPoint
Wed Jan 22, 2020 5:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United announces strong 2019 Q4/full year numbers
Replies: 42
Views: 9122

Re: United announces strong 2019 Q4/full year numbers

But UA is still paying large payments for 14 planes that are sitting on the ground. Are you suggesting that the increased yields is potentially more profitable than whatever profits they would have made off those 14 planes + the costs of the airplanes? Of course, UA will eventually get some compens...

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by CriticalPoint
Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020
Replies: 3223
Views: 561144

Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

The Polaris tracker is a few aircraft behind, new units: 1 77W, 2 78X, Polaris completed 1 788, 2 763. However I believe a few 763s will not receive Polaris. Hopefully the Polaris tracker is correct and all 38 will have Polaris. I just looked at the updated 763 Polaris installation schedule and Nos...

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by CriticalPoint
Sun Jan 19, 2020 6:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA Board of Directors/Shareholders view on Doug Parker
Replies: 30
Views: 7433

Re: AA Board of Directors/Shareholders view on Doug Parker

UWPAviation wrote:
Last I saw, could be wrong now, AA had the largest profit out of any airline in the world.


This is wildly incorrect....AA is in 3rd place in the US let alone the world and could slip to fourth is they don’t turn it around, Southwest isn’t far behind

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by CriticalPoint
Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:08 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020
Replies: 3223
Views: 561144

Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

So is the 2nd daily EWR-PVG coming or it just the upgauged 77W!? Both UA and DL have gone silent on their proposed EWR-PVG (second daily) and MSP-PVG routes. Both airlines at the beginning of 2019 said schedule service would begin in Spring 2020. However with Chinese carriers flooding the U.S. mark...

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by CriticalPoint
Sat Jan 18, 2020 11:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A DL 772, Flying LAX-PVG, Makes Emergency Landing And Dumps Fuel On School
Replies: 565
Views: 56891

Re: A DL 772, Flying LAX-PVG, Makes Emergency Landing And Dumps Fuel On School

ETOPS 240 I lose an engine on my 787 and fly with 1 engine for 4 hours. Only if the nearest suitable is 4 hours away, right? If it's 2 hours away, you aren't allowed to say, "I'd rather land at this other place that's 3 hours away. No big deal because I'm ETOPS 240." ETOPS XXX is not cart...

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by CriticalPoint
Sat Jan 18, 2020 11:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A DL 772, Flying LAX-PVG, Makes Emergency Landing And Dumps Fuel On School
Replies: 565
Views: 56891

Re: A DL 772, Flying LAX-PVG, Makes Emergency Landing And Dumps Fuel On School

The 2 scenarios are either: 1. The fuel dump at 2000 ft was inappropriate. There was no critical emergency since the compressor stall was under control. They could have dumped fuel over the ocean, then landed. 2. Something more critical than a controlled compressor stall occurred later, and the pil...

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by CriticalPoint
Sat Jan 18, 2020 11:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A DL 772, Flying LAX-PVG, Makes Emergency Landing And Dumps Fuel On School
Replies: 565
Views: 56891

Re: A DL 772, Flying LAX-PVG, Makes Emergency Landing And Dumps Fuel On School

ETOPS 240 I lose an engine on my 787 and fly with 1 engine for 4 hours. Only if the nearest suitable is 4 hours away, right? If it's 2 hours away, you aren't allowed to say, "I'd rather land at this other place that's 3 hours away. No big deal because I'm ETOPS 240." ETOPS XXX is not cart...

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by CriticalPoint
Sat Jan 18, 2020 9:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL201 JNB-ATL 777 diverts to MIA this morning
Replies: 38
Views: 7434

Re: DL201 JNB-ATL 777 diverts to MIA this morning

Wth UA's success on EWR-CPT I wonder if UA will consider (and the B789 has better performance) EWR-JNB which is actually shorter than ATL-JNB. Wait, you somehow believe that a 789 has "better performance" than a 772LR, from a hot-high airport prior to a 16hr flight? That's... interesting....

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by CriticalPoint
Sat Jan 18, 2020 9:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A DL 772, Flying LAX-PVG, Makes Emergency Landing And Dumps Fuel On School
Replies: 565
Views: 56891

Re: A DL 772, Flying LAX-PVG, Makes Emergency Landing And Dumps Fuel On School

ETOPS does not begin until you have pased the ETOPS Entry Point (look it up). They could have flown around for 12 hours and never entered the ETOPS phase of flight. Sime people throw terms around as if they actually know what they are talking about. I understand what ETOPS is YOU are missing the po...

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by CriticalPoint
Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A DL 772, Flying LAX-PVG, Makes Emergency Landing And Dumps Fuel On School
Replies: 565
Views: 56891

Re: A DL 772, Flying LAX-PVG, Makes Emergency Landing And Dumps Fuel On School

How often are those fuel jettison valves tested anyway? What would have happened if they initiated the fuel dump process, but were not able to close the valves? Land anyway with a steady stream of fuel emanating from the valves? CI120 in Okinawa comes to mind... What other option is there? You are ...

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by CriticalPoint
Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A DL 772, Flying LAX-PVG, Makes Emergency Landing And Dumps Fuel On School
Replies: 565
Views: 56891

Re: A DL 772, Flying LAX-PVG, Makes Emergency Landing And Dumps Fuel On School

I heard that the FAA slammed a fine on DL for committing a public nuisance. Good. They should have turned left, circled over the ocean for 20-30 min to dump fuel and then gone in for landing. This plane is ETOPS 180, right? What does any of this ahve to do with ETOPS? He ws making a point that if t...

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by CriticalPoint
Sat Jan 18, 2020 7:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL201 JNB-ATL 777 diverts to MIA this morning
Replies: 38
Views: 7434

Re: DL201 JNB-ATL 777 diverts to MIA this morning

[threeid][/threeid] Delta should switches from B777LR to Airbus 350. Maybe A350 is better performance than 777LR. Q dL A350s can’t even fly to SYD from LAX....let alone the hot and height JNB-ATL A what? A350 LAX-SYD can't fly. What are you thinking of this aircraft? A350 and B787 are very similar. ...

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by CriticalPoint
Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A DL 772, Flying LAX-PVG, Makes Emergency Landing And Dumps Fuel On School
Replies: 565
Views: 56891

Re: A DL 772, Flying LAX-PVG, Makes Emergency Landing And Dumps Fuel On School

A big difference between MTOW and MLW would be a reason to include the ability to jettison fuel, right? Otherwise it's likely not needed. Yes that’s a reason fuel jettison is included in the Jet....if you can obviously reduce the weight to MLW but it’s not required you can also fly circles for hour...

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by CriticalPoint
Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Transavia 737 Takes Off With Gear Pin In
Replies: 35
Views: 8754

Re: TRANSAVIA BOEING LANDS WITH LOCKED WHEELS

TRANSAVIA BOEING LANDS WITH LOCKED WHEELS AMSTERDAM - A Boeing 737-800 from Transavia blocked the Buitenveldertbaan at Schiphol for a short time after landing due to a safety pin that was still in the landing gear. After the landing, the Transavia technical department pulled out the pin, which shou...

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by CriticalPoint
Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Transavia 737 Takes Off With Gear Pin In
Replies: 35
Views: 8754

Re: TRANSAVIA BOEING LANDS WITH LOCKED WHEELS

It sounds like it was the bypass pin......it happens

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by CriticalPoint
Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A DL 772, Flying LAX-PVG, Makes Emergency Landing And Dumps Fuel On School
Replies: 565
Views: 56891

Re: A DL 772, Flying LAX-PVG, Makes Emergency Landing And Dumps Fuel On School

i have always wondered, why does fuel have to be dumped before landing? It doesn’t in fact most airplanes can’t dump fuel. A big difference between MTOW and MLW would be a reason to include the ability to jettison fuel, right? Otherwise it's likely not needed. Yes that’s a reason fuel jettison is i...

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by CriticalPoint
Sat Jan 18, 2020 5:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL201 JNB-ATL 777 diverts to MIA this morning
Replies: 38
Views: 7434

Re: DL201 JNB-ATL 777 diverts to MIA this morning

Q wrote:
Delta should switches from B777LR to Airbus 350. Maybe A350 is better performance than 777LR.

Q


dL A350s can’t even fly to SYD from LAX....let alone the hot and height JNB-ATL

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by CriticalPoint
Sat Jan 18, 2020 5:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A DL 772, Flying LAX-PVG, Makes Emergency Landing And Dumps Fuel On School
Replies: 565
Views: 56891

Re: A DL 772, Flying LAX-PVG, Makes Emergency Landing And Dumps Fuel On School

AEROFAN wrote:
i have always wondered, why does fuel have to be dumped before landing?


It doesn’t in fact most airplanes can’t dump fuel.

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by CriticalPoint
Sat Jan 18, 2020 5:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A DL 772, Flying LAX-PVG, Makes Emergency Landing And Dumps Fuel On School
Replies: 565
Views: 56891

Re: A DL 772, Flying LAX-PVG, Makes Emergency Landing And Dumps Fuel On School

DL not reporting IFSD on ETOPS flight? Oh well, that would be interesting. You don’t have to shut down the engine. Most compressor stalls can be stabilized by pulling the power back. The ONLY time a crew manually shuts down an engine is when the ECL tells them too. "Only" is a big word. E...

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by CriticalPoint
Sat Jan 18, 2020 5:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A DL 772, Flying LAX-PVG, Makes Emergency Landing And Dumps Fuel On School
Replies: 565
Views: 56891

Re: A DL 772, Flying LAX-PVG, Makes Emergency Landing And Dumps Fuel On School

This media attention on this incident, with the attendant lawsuits and now race baiting, are emblematic of all that is wrong with the country. And the level of ignorance and speculation displayed by some of the posts on this thread beggars the imagination. New lows on both counts. Look into the mir...

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by CriticalPoint
Sat Jan 18, 2020 3:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL201 JNB-ATL 777 diverts to MIA this morning
Replies: 38
Views: 7434

Re: DL201 JNB-ATL 777 diverts to MIA this morning

They have had a few fuel stops on that route lately.

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by CriticalPoint
Sat Jan 18, 2020 2:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A DL 772, Flying LAX-PVG, Makes Emergency Landing And Dumps Fuel On School
Replies: 565
Views: 56891

Re: A DL 772, Flying LAX-PVG, Makes Emergency Landing And Dumps Fuel On School

No, it because of event definition and classification. If it is not a serious incident (or) accident as defined by ICAO and/or FAA, it is just an internal matter, Chief PIlot will have a quick chat with the crew and they will be on their way to next schedule. I see, thanks. Yeah, it's not even list...

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by CriticalPoint
Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A DL 772, Flying LAX-PVG, Makes Emergency Landing And Dumps Fuel On School
Replies: 565
Views: 56891

Re: A DL 772, Flying LAX-PVG, Makes Emergency Landing And Dumps Fuel On School

I don't think many here would seriously debate the prudence in dumping fuel here, it's just where it was done, and at what altitude it was done that are at issue. Pretty simple. Truth. Seems like a rush but we don’t know. It does seem to me that aviation is the only endeavor where “risk the lives/h...

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by CriticalPoint
Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A DL 772, Flying LAX-PVG, Makes Emergency Landing And Dumps Fuel On School
Replies: 565
Views: 56891

Re: A DL 772, Flying LAX-PVG, Makes Emergency Landing And Dumps Fuel On School

GSPSPOT wrote:
I don't think many here would seriously debate the prudence in dumping fuel here, it's just where it was done, and at what altitude it was done that are at issue. Pretty simple.


Bingo

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by CriticalPoint
Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A DL 772, Flying LAX-PVG, Makes Emergency Landing And Dumps Fuel On School
Replies: 565
Views: 56891

Re: A DL 772, Flying LAX-PVG, Makes Emergency Landing And Dumps Fuel On School

I actually have one question - to pilots. I recall that some years ago Aeroflot Superjet 100 made an overweight landing and burst into flames. (SU1492) I read the reports and the aircraft was 1.6 tonnes overweight over 41 tonnes MLW. That would be 3.9 per cent overweight landing, and half of the pe...

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by CriticalPoint
Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A DL 772, Flying LAX-PVG, Makes Emergency Landing And Dumps Fuel On School
Replies: 565
Views: 56891

Re: A DL 772, Flying LAX-PVG, Makes Emergency Landing And Dumps Fuel On School

Hello all, Years ago, a Delta 777 travelling overseas had a problem with heavy smoke coming from one of the main landing gear on its take off roll reported by several pilots. The crew started dumping fuel all over ATL as ATC vectored them back to a landing on the same runway. They were dumping all ...

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by CriticalPoint
Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A DL 772, Flying LAX-PVG, Makes Emergency Landing And Dumps Fuel On School
Replies: 565
Views: 56891

Re: A DL 772, Flying LAX-PVG, Makes Emergency Landing And Dumps Fuel On School

I get your point. But we are not talking about aerobatics here. The pilot believed there was an emergency and he dealt with it how he needed to regardless of the consequences IMO. Yep and compromised the safety of those around him...... Increased the safety of those closest to him though.... fellow...

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by CriticalPoint
Thu Jan 16, 2020 4:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A DL 772, Flying LAX-PVG, Makes Emergency Landing And Dumps Fuel On School
Replies: 565
Views: 56891

Re: A DL 772, Flying LAX-PVG, Makes Emergency Landing And Dumps Fuel On School

I can understand that. Pilot's have different styles and abilities and experiences with emergencies. But why second guess a pilot's ability to land a plane they are in command of? It's his bird. He can "emergency" it safely however he damn wants to get his desired outcome of a safe landin...

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by CriticalPoint
Thu Jan 16, 2020 4:30 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A DL 772, Flying LAX-PVG, Makes Emergency Landing And Dumps Fuel On School
Replies: 565
Views: 56891

Re: A DL 772, Flying LAX-PVG, Makes Emergency Landing And Dumps Fuel On School

I am not a pilot but I have to say one has to give the pilot the benefit of the doubt. I believe the initial question was dump "and hold." According to the pilots' actions there was no time for a hold. Had the pilots' indicated that they were going to dump on the way in, wouldn't that hav...

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by CriticalPoint
Thu Jan 16, 2020 4:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A DL 772, Flying LAX-PVG, Makes Emergency Landing And Dumps Fuel On School
Replies: 565
Views: 56891

Re: A DL 772, Flying LAX-PVG, Makes Emergency Landing And Dumps Fuel On School

In reading this thread, i wonder if there hasn’t been some “negative training”. Every time I had a compressor stall in the sim, we always got it back. Slowly advancing the thrust until the engine operated normally. Then ...... about 10 miles on final, as we configured for landing, slowing, with hig...

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by CriticalPoint
Wed Jan 15, 2020 2:35 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A DL 772, Flying LAX-PVG, Makes Emergency Landing And Dumps Fuel On School
Replies: 565
Views: 56891

Re: A DL 772, Flying LAX-PVG, Makes Emergency Landing And Dumps Fuel On School

It's the real deal, via LiveATC. The question is whether it's complete. And that only the FAA will provide. You're right in that I shouldn't have said "never," but it's accurate to say that at present there is absolutely zero evidence that they did tell ATC. And nobody's doing much to exp...

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by CriticalPoint
Wed Jan 15, 2020 2:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A DL 772, Flying LAX-PVG, Makes Emergency Landing And Dumps Fuel On School
Replies: 565
Views: 56891

Re: A DL 772, Flying LAX-PVG, Makes Emergency Landing And Dumps Fuel On School

marcellot wrote:
The pilots are not the ones deciding where they fly. They are under full ATC and ATC is giving them headings.

So if you have a beef with someone it should be the FAA Controllers


That could not be any more false of a statement.

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by CriticalPoint
Wed Jan 15, 2020 12:12 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A DL 772, Flying LAX-PVG, Makes Emergency Landing And Dumps Fuel On School
Replies: 565
Views: 56891

Re: A DL 772, Flying LAX-PVG, Makes Emergency Landing And Dumps Fuel On School

The aircraft can easily be ripped apart if it tries to ditch in the ocean. See US 1549 or that Ethiopian flight hijacked by terrorists. It depends on how dire the engine situation actually was. Why would you ditch for an engine failure? US 1549 did. Well, rather a dual engine failure, but you get t...

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by CriticalPoint
Wed Jan 15, 2020 12:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A DL 772, Flying LAX-PVG, Makes Emergency Landing And Dumps Fuel On School
Replies: 565
Views: 56891

Re: A DL 772, Flying LAX-PVG, Makes Emergency Landing And Dumps Fuel On School

Meh, the kids will walk it off ;-) Out of LAX with an engine emergency issue you're kind of screwed either way as it's a city with an approach surrounded by densely populated suburbs, ocean, mountains and DTLA. I'm sure there was a reason for it. Could it be that LAX Tower or ATC asked for it or so...

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by CriticalPoint
Tue Jan 14, 2020 11:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A DL 772, Flying LAX-PVG, Makes Emergency Landing And Dumps Fuel On School
Replies: 565
Views: 56891

Re: A DL 772, Flying LAX-PVG, Makes Emergency Landing And Dumps Fuel On School

Meh, the kids will walk it off ;-) Out of LAX with an engine emergency issue you're kind of screwed either way as it's a city with an approach surrounded by densely populated suburbs, ocean, mountains and DTLA. I'm sure there was a reason for it. Could it be that LAX Tower or ATC asked for it or so...

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by CriticalPoint
Tue Jan 14, 2020 11:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A DL 772, Flying LAX-PVG, Makes Emergency Landing And Dumps Fuel On School
Replies: 565
Views: 56891

Re: A DL 772, Flying LAX-PVG, Makes Emergency Landing And Dumps Fuel On School

We have to know the reason first. If it was a fire I would have done the same thing or just landed overweight. Depending on the fire. I dunno. Generally, if you break something, even if by accident, you are liable to the owners for what you broke. The reason why you broke it may have an effect on p...

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