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by panamair
Mon Oct 26, 2020 1:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Network Thread - 2020
Replies: 615
Views: 77570

Re: Delta Network Thread - 2020

Some changes to long-haul loaded this past weekend:

W20-21:
- BOS-LHR cancelled until Apr 1 2021
- JFK-MAD cancelled until Mar 1 2021
- JFK-FCO cut 4x to 3x weekly
- JFK-TLV cut to daily from 2x daily

S21:
- reinstated ATL-VCE and MSP-KEF
- adding back BOS-FCO (was supposed to start for S20)

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by panamair
Wed Oct 21, 2020 7:30 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Have you voted in the US Election yet?
Replies: 47
Views: 2079

Re: Have you voted in the US Election yet?

I am working in Europe now and have my absentee ballot all filled out. I am flying back to the States tomorrow to personally drop it off at the ballot box! :) Not taking any chances!

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by panamair
Wed Oct 21, 2020 7:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 10/20/2020:KEEP IT ROLLING (THE CANCELS);EK Suspends ATHEWR,JFKMXP,DXBSEA;UA Adds IAD-ABE/ERI/Carib,LAXSAP
Replies: 69
Views: 11233

Re: OAG Changes 10/20/2020:KEEP IT ROLLING (THE CANCELS);EK Suspends ATHEWR,JFKMXP,DXBSEA;UA Adds IAD-ABE/ERI/Carib,LAXS

I still don't think the political situation there is helping matters. But I really hope most of overseas airlines come back...and some. I think you're way overestimating the impact of the political situation especially on international travel demand for SEA. Frankly, the civil unrest in SEA and PDX...

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by panamair
Tue Oct 20, 2020 6:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 10/20/2020:KEEP IT ROLLING (THE CANCELS);EK Suspends ATHEWR,JFKMXP,DXBSEA;UA Adds IAD-ABE/ERI/Carib,LAXSAP
Replies: 69
Views: 11233

Re: OAG Changes 10/20/2020:KEEP IT ROLLING (THE CANCELS);EK Suspends ATHEWR,JFKMXP,DXBSEA;UA Adds IAD-ABE/ERI/Carib,LAXS

Why are people saying EK is pulling out of SEA without properly reading the schedule..it says 0.1 in March which indicates they have only pulled it for the winter season. Both SEA-DXB and EWR-ATH-DXB are on sale for the S21 season starting March 28, 2021. Of course that can still change later if bor...

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by panamair
Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:12 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020
Replies: 619
Views: 124081

Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020

CaptainLeo wrote:
Looks like the last two 777 flights on the 30th and 31st have been cancelled.


Where are you seeing that? Both still appear bookable on delta.com for now...

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by panamair
Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020
Replies: 4278
Views: 622015

Re: United Announces LAX-SJO/LIR/SAP, SFO-LIR, IAD-SDQ, DEN-BZE/LIR, CLE-CUN

x1234 wrote:
Smart for UA to fill those Central America gaps from LAX after DL pulled out. SJO and PTY are the highest yielding Central America destinations from the US.


DL is still flying LAX-SJO; service resumes Dec 17.

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by panamair
Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:24 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United 3Q20 Financials
Replies: 52
Views: 7899

Re: United 3Q20 Financials

I hope no one is trying to use any airline’s numbers for bragging rights for their preferred airline. All of these numbers truly suck, it’s just the logo on the cover sheet that changes. Absolutely. It is unbelievable how partizan people can get, even on quarterly earnings? Actually, United managem...

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by panamair
Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United 3Q20 Financials
Replies: 52
Views: 7899

Re: United 3Q20 Financials

Really of the US3, United Airlines already beat Delta Airlines Q3 numbers. Some measures yes (Avg daily cash burn rate); some measures no (non-GAAP adjusted pre-tax and net margins) Q3 daily average cash burn: UA: $21m DL: $24m Q3 Operating Revenues (adjusted) DL: $2.6B UA: $2.5 B Q3 Pre-Tax Loss (...

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by panamair
Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta 2020 Q3 earnings thread
Replies: 73
Views: 9877

Re: DL 2020 Q3 earnings thread

Some notes from the earnings call: - Revenues at 10% of prior year in Q2, then 21% in Q3, and expect to be 30-35% of prior year in Q4 - Anticipate cash burn down to $10-12m a day in Q4; improvement here mostly due to increasing revenues - Adjusted net debt of $17B at end of Q3 (which is up $6.5B sin...

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by panamair
Sat Oct 10, 2020 1:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: DL looking to trade 717s for 737 Max
Replies: 526
Views: 98535

Re: Could Delta Order 737 MAX?

whats happening on TUESDAY? According to Reuters, Boeing has had discussions with Delta Air Lines to take up to 40 Boeing already-built 737 MAX aircraft, no doubt at a HUGE discount. Source: https://www.reuters.com/article/boeing-737max-delta/boeing-courting-delta-others-to-take-737-max-white-tails...

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by panamair
Mon Oct 05, 2020 2:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020
Replies: 2153
Views: 271752

Re: AA changes on JFK-LAX/SFO

None of this is really bad news, per se. It's a stunning reduction in frequency in what has been the country's premier business markets. It doesn't matter if they're running freakin' Air Force One: 2X LAX-JFK just isn't going to be competitive against 5x B6, 4x DL (also widebody lie flats), and 4x ...

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by panamair
Sun Oct 04, 2020 11:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020
Replies: 2153
Views: 271752

Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Just noticed that JFK-LAX has been reduced to 2x daily and JFK-SFO to 1x daily in November (including Thanksgiving). While SFO remains the A321T, LAX will be using the 772, so total capacity is about the same or more than these past few months with the A321T; this also means no Flagship First on JFK...

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by panamair
Tue Sep 29, 2020 11:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020
Replies: 619
Views: 124081

Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020

PSU.DTW.SCE wrote:
DL has 3 B763ER ferry flights scheduled for Wed 9/30 LAX-SBD, assume for storage.
Haven't looked up the tail numbers yet.


Appears that the third may have been cancelled. The first two are N179DN (a 76L ship 179) and the other is N152DL (an ex-Gulf 76Z, ship 1502).

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by panamair
Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020
Replies: 619
Views: 124081

Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020

Delta intends on retiring all these aircraft but they now consist of active and storage. When considering the active currently utilized, the replacement proposition is not all that daunting, especially if demand remains low up to 2025, at which time they can go full throttle with new orders to augm...

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by panamair
Sun Sep 27, 2020 2:43 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta announced to phase out 717, 763 & CRJ200.
Replies: 232
Views: 28171

Re: Delta announced to phase out 717, 763 & CRJ200.

Correct me if I'm wrong but hasn't Delta already removed most if not all 763s from their SEA TPAC operations and (pre-COVID) replaced those 763s with A339NEO, A359s, and I think A333s? That’s correct. SEA-HND/ICN/PVG have all been switched to the A339 (well PVG is an A359 now because of the limited...

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by panamair
Sat Sep 26, 2020 10:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta announced to phase out 717, 763 & CRJ200.
Replies: 232
Views: 28171

Re: Delta announced to phase out 717, 763 & CRJ200.

Ok so, what about B767-400ER though? They are currently between 18.5-21 years of age. By December 2025 when they retire all their B767-300ER. All of those B767-400ER would be around 24-26 years old. Wouldn't it be better for them to retire the -400ER as well? Since it have similar number of seats a...

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by panamair
Sat Sep 26, 2020 9:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta announced to phase out 717, 763 & CRJ200.
Replies: 232
Views: 28171

Re: Delta announced to phase out 717, 763 & CRJ200.

I'm curious what this means for the future of the SEA TPAC operation. Half the stated reason for launching it was that most of the Asian markets they wanted to serve were within the range of the smaller 763 from SEA. Putting the 339 into SEA will surely change the calculus on some of these routes. ...

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by panamair
Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020
Replies: 619
Views: 124081

Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020

It is a very good sign regarding Delta's cash position that they are taking these widebodies. If they were worried about running out of cash, they wouldn't be taking any aircraft. Well, their liquidity should be more than ok with the recent debt offering (two bonds and a term loan facility) of $9 b...

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by panamair
Tue Sep 22, 2020 6:56 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: NYC-SJD over capacity (DL Starting)
Replies: 29
Views: 5246

Re: NYC-SJD Bloodbath (DL Starting)

I believe DL has had JFK-SJD Sat-only service on the 738 on and off over the years.

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by panamair
Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020
Replies: 619
Views: 124081

Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020

I noticed that 2 of the 11 A330-200s are also back in service - N860NW and N861NW have been operating ATL-LIM.

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by panamair
Thu Sep 17, 2020 2:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aviation sector unpaid leaves and layoffs thread
Replies: 1153
Views: 38064

Re: DL commits to no furloughs for F/As & ground employees

Well, with this scenario, there was a length that you commit to doing this for. So, in turn, you can't decide the next month that you want to switch back to a regular schedule. I believe the commitment was until next spring/ summer when flying is expected to pick up for the season. I understand you...

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by panamair
Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL puts up SkyMiles as collateral for loan facility
Replies: 37
Views: 4475

Re: DL puts up SkyMiles as collateral for loan facility

The $6.5 billion they are raising (to be backed by SkyMiles) is made up of three components: - a term loan facility of $2.5bn - a $2bn 5 year bond at 5% - a $2bn 8 year bond at 5.375% Interesting that the total amount of funds coming out of this deal will be around $9.0 billion now instead of $6.5B...

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by panamair
Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aviation sector unpaid leaves and layoffs thread
Replies: 1153
Views: 38064

Re: DL commits to no furloughs for F/As & ground employees

Interesting commitment. All commitments disappear in a bankruptcy though. Never say never in the airline business, but with yesterday’s announcement of another $6.5B of financing (backed by SkyMiles), Delta should have just under $20B of liquidity by the end of Q3; they would be hard pressed to con...

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by panamair
Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aviation sector unpaid leaves and layoffs thread
Replies: 1153
Views: 38064

Re: DL commits to no furloughs for F/As & ground employees

Flflyer83 wrote:

Oh, this is going to be interesting... I guess if you shuffle them in to positions they don’t like and they quit, you can still claim that you didn’t furlough any...


I don’t believe anyone was forced to switch departments; all these measures and options were voluntary.

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by panamair
Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aviation sector unpaid leaves and layoffs thread
Replies: 1153
Views: 38064

Re: DL commits to no furloughs for F/As & ground employees

I didn't notice if the article mentioned how many flight attendants were being displaced to catering and reservations positions. For the FA group of over 25000, 4100 took the voluntary separation package, just under 4000 are taking the various voluntary leaves of absence (ranging from 4 to 12 month...

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by panamair
Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Network Thread - 2020
Replies: 615
Views: 77570

Re: Delta Network Thread - 2020

Looks like DL will be adding/resuming the following starting Dec 2020: - SLC-MIA - JFK-SAL - LAX-RNO https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/293717/delta-adds-new-york-san-salvador-service-from-dec-2020/ https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/293716/delta-resumes-los-angeles-ren...

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by panamair
Mon Sep 14, 2020 6:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Network Thread - 2020
Replies: 615
Views: 77570

Re: Delta Network Thread - 2020

Does anyone know when JFK-BCN will be resuming? It was scheduled to resume a few days ago, but keeps showing up as cancelled. JFK-FCO, MAD, and ACCC started, as planned. BCN restart looks like it’s been pushed back to Oct 1. Thanks for the info.! Looks like there will be some other European flights...

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by panamair
Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL puts up SkyMiles as collateral for loan facility
Replies: 37
Views: 4475

Re: DL puts up SkyMiles as collateral for loan facility

What’s with this? Spirit just issued bonds in the Cayman Islands. I’ve never seen this before in either case. What has caused this change? > SkyMiles IP Ltd., a newly formed Cayman Islands exempted company incorporated with limited liability and an indirect wholly owned subsidiary of Delta Spirit o...

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by panamair
Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL puts up SkyMiles as collateral for loan facility
Replies: 37
Views: 4475

Re: DL puts up SkyMiles as collateral for loan facility

The $6.5 billion they are raising (to be backed by SkyMiles) is made up of three components:
- a term loan facility of $2.5bn
- a $2bn 5 year bond at 5%
- a $2bn 8 year bond at 5.375%

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by panamair
Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Network Thread - 2020
Replies: 615
Views: 77570

Re: Delta Network Thread - 2020

As Delta resumes delivery of new aircraft including the A339, it looks like they are further adding the type to JFK. From 15 Jan 2021, one of the two JFK-TLV flights will switch from an A333 to an A339. As previously published, JFK-AMS will switch to the A339 starting 1 December 2020. So it looks Ii...

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by panamair
Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Network Thread - 2020
Replies: 615
Views: 77570

Re: Delta Network Thread - 2020

flyguy1 wrote:
Does anyone know when JFK-BCN will be resuming? It was scheduled to resume a few days ago, but keeps showing up as cancelled. JFK-FCO, MAD, and ACCC started, as planned.


BCN restart looks like it’s been pushed back to Oct 1.

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by panamair
Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG 9/8/2020:OH THE HUMANITY;AA+DAB-DFW/PHL;AM Cuts;DL+LAXSAL,Suspends PVG?;NK Exits IAG/PBG/GSO?;UA Suspends ITH/MHT
Replies: 53
Views: 8985

Re: OAG 9/8/2020:OH THE HUMANITY;AA+DAB-DFW/PHL;AM Cuts;DL+LAXSAL,Suspends PVG?;NK Exits IAG/PBG/GSO?;UA Suspends ITH/MH

They are not suspending PVG; it’s a continuation of their current practice of stopping at ICN for a crew change, hence why you see a corresponding increase in ICN-DTW and ICN-SEA service. I think it is probably a misfile but at the same time the stop at ICN is a tech stop. DL's PVG flights operate ...

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by panamair
Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG 9/8/2020:OH THE HUMANITY;AA+DAB-DFW/PHL;AM Cuts;DL+LAXSAL,Suspends PVG?;NK Exits IAG/PBG/GSO?;UA Suspends ITH/MHT
Replies: 53
Views: 8985

Re: OAG 9/8/2020:OH THE HUMANITY;AA+DAB-DFW/PHL;AM Cuts;DL+LAXSAL,Suspends PVG?;NK Exits IAG/PBG/GSO?;UA Suspends ITH/MH

Wasn't it supposed to go daily? Why would they do a tech stop on a daily flight? Wasn't the issue crew not be stranded for many days? I believe they have always been aiming to resume PVG at daily from both DTW and SEA but are currently limited by China’s capacity caps which only allow 4x weekly eac...

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by panamair
Tue Sep 08, 2020 3:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG 9/8/2020:OH THE HUMANITY;AA+DAB-DFW/PHL;AM Cuts;DL+LAXSAL,Suspends PVG?;NK Exits IAG/PBG/GSO?;UA Suspends ITH/MHT
Replies: 53
Views: 8985

Re: OAG 9/8/2020:OH THE HUMANITY;AA+DAB-DFW/PHL;AM Cuts;DL+LAXSAL,Suspends PVG?;NK Exits IAG/PBG/GSO?;UA Suspends ITH/MH

I have to assume this is an error or re-addition of a tech stop. They would have way too much egg on their face with DOT to suspend PVG after getting DOT to risk inflaming things further with China to get them back in. They are not suspending PVG; it’s a continuation of their current practice of st...

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by panamair
Tue Sep 08, 2020 2:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG 9/8/2020:OH THE HUMANITY;AA+DAB-DFW/PHL;AM Cuts;DL+LAXSAL,Suspends PVG?;NK Exits IAG/PBG/GSO?;UA Suspends ITH/MHT
Replies: 53
Views: 8985

Re: OAG 9/8/2020:OH THE HUMANITY;AA+DAB-DFW/PHL;AM Cuts;DL+LAXSAL,Suspends PVG?;NK Exits IAG/PBG/GSO?;UA Suspends ITH/MH

Didn't this just get added back? *DL DTW-PVG OCT 0.3>0[0.3] NOV 1.0>0[1.0] What's up with the PVGs suspended? **DL PVG-SEA OCT 0.3>0[0.3] NOV 1.0>0[1.0] I have to assume this is an error or re-addition of a tech stop. They would have way too much egg on their face with DOT to suspend PVG after gett...

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by panamair
Sat Sep 05, 2020 2:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier
Replies: 2164
Views: 385155

Re: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier

Surprised no one has posted it yet but Delta today confirmed that they will not have to furlough a single flight attendant for the fall and winter: https://thepointsguy.com/news/breaking-delta-air-lines-confirms-no-furloughs-for-flight-attendants/ After the early-outs, Delta indicated they would be ...

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by panamair
Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 9/1/2020:AA Adds PHX-BIL/BIS/BNA/CVG/TUL/YYC,CLT-FSD,JFK-SJD;AS to JAC;DL Drops BZN-SEA,Reverses Carib Cuts
Replies: 42
Views: 9543

Re: OAG Changes 9/1/2020:AA Adds PHX-BIL/BIS/BNA/CVG/TUL/YYC,CLT-FSD,JFK-SJD;AS to JAC;DL Drops BZN-SEA,Reverses Carib C

DL ATL-DSS SEP 0>0.4[0] What is this? Cargo? It's a route they've flown in the past, usually rotates with JFK. This is actually the resumption of the ATL-LOS service in Sept. except the flight will have a “technical” intermediate stop in DSS. I believe this is because they are going to use the 763E...

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by panamair
Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 8/25/2020:Cuts Begin for 21;DL DROPS NUMEROUS ROUTES INTL ROUTES FOR SUMMER 2021, Adds SEA-ONT,MSP-TVC
Replies: 104
Views: 15450

Re: OAG Changes 8/25/2020:Cuts Begin for 21;DL DROPS NUMEROUS ROUTES INTL ROUTES FOR SUMMER 2021, Adds SEA-ONT,MSP-TVC

TropicalSky wrote:
man DAL just gutted JAMAICA from basically every station


I don't think the Jamaica cuts are correct. I still see JFK-MBJ available for booking in Oct, Nov, Dec (peak holiday period even shows 2 flights a day), Jan, Feb, March, etc.

I also see LAX-SJO available in late December, January....

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by panamair
Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: NY Area Airports to get Rapid Testing
Replies: 10
Views: 1265

Re: NY Area Airports to get Rapid Testing

The forms appear to only be for flights coming into NY directly from the quarantine states; they ask you to fill it out online. When you disembark, you have to show the electronic confirmation or fill out the paper forms at the gate. And the problem is that passengers can and do travel via intermed...

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by panamair
Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier
Replies: 2164
Views: 385155

Re: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier

How is what I wrote wrong? Sorry I wasn’t trying to say you had the wrong math but actually trying to figure out the math, maybe I got it wrong, the original WARN predicted an overage of 2500+ pilots by S21. So by simple math, if 1800 took the package, that would leave about 700+ in danger of furlo...

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by panamair
Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier
Replies: 2164
Views: 385155

Re: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier

The original number of WARN act letters was 2,558. The early retirement plan appears to have saved a little over 600 from furlough on October 1st. Actually, the final number who took the early out package was around 1800+. By the first deadline to sign up for the packages, they had about 2200 pilot...

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by panamair
Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: NY Area Airports to get Rapid Testing
Replies: 10
Views: 1265

Re: NY Area Airports to get Rapid Testing

I flew in and out of JFK to Boston on B6 a few weeks ago and was shocked that 1.) no forms were given out on aircraft or arrival 2.) there was no one asking where we originated from as the people sitting behind us had originated in California apparently At the time there seemed to be no type of con...

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by panamair
Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 8/25/2020:Cuts Begin for 21;DL DROPS NUMEROUS ROUTES INTL ROUTES FOR SUMMER 2021, Adds SEA-ONT,MSP-TVC
Replies: 104
Views: 15450

Re: OAG Changes 8/25/2020:Cuts Begin for 21;DL DROPS NUMEROUS ROUTES INTL ROUTES FOR SUMMER 2021, Adds SEA-ONT,MSP-TVC

The DL intl cuts are so dramatic that while it is not too surprising given the staff reductions, I am a little surprised they would do them now. I almost wonder if they filed this schedule by mistake and will roll it back, but time will tell... They already had a press release last week about the p...

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by panamair
Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier
Replies: 2164
Views: 385155

Re: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier

i believe this is less than they had planned originally Delta just announced 1,941 pilot furloughs. The original number of WARN act letters was 2,558. The early retirement plan appears to have saved a little over 600 from furlough on October 1st. Actually, the final number who took the early out pa...

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by panamair
Mon Aug 24, 2020 2:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Network Thread - 2020
Replies: 615
Views: 77570

Re: Delta Network Thread - 2020

Wow thats a pity! The DUS flight was perfect for nonrev in Business but that obviously says it all. I would have thought that they also cut Berlin. Were Glasgow, Prague seasonal flights? Copenhagen was seasonal AFAIK. What about Shannon? They were all seasonal; DUS was the only year-round. So far, ...

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by panamair
Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier
Replies: 2164
Views: 385155

Re: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier

Interestingly, DL is showing JFK-EDI/KEF/LIS all flying on the 767's next summer, while their partners (AF, KL, and VS all codeshare on those routes) show them to be flown on 757's. I am guessing DL has updated their information - or perhaps the equipment choice isn't "written in stone" a...

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by panamair
Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier
Replies: 2164
Views: 385155

Re: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier

I think all A350s are active according to a.net so wondering how the 777's will be replaced? Maybe somebody will do a utilization schedule of the widebodies based on the current summer 2021 schedules. Lose 18 777/77L, lose a few (unknown number?) of 767s, add in some unknown number of 339s that DL ...

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by panamair
Sun Aug 23, 2020 6:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier
Replies: 2164
Views: 385155

Re: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier

Curious as to there are only 2 763 routes loaded this winter TATL but they have more frames than that active. Where else are they could to fly this winter? Domestic I believe: JFK-LAX is the main one. So far DL has been operating 5-6 daily flights in this market (October so far has been cut from th...

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by panamair
Sun Aug 23, 2020 1:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier
Replies: 2164
Views: 385155

Re: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier

Winter 2020-21 TATL frequencies and aircraft schedules updated this weekend: JFK-LHR 764 JFK-DUB A333 JFK-AMS A339 JFK-BRU 764 JFK-CDG A333 JFK-FRA A333 JFK-ZRH A333 JFK-MXP A333 JFK-FCO A333 JFK-MAD A333 JFK-BCN A333 JFK-TLV A333 JFK-DSS 763ER JFK-ACC 763ER ATL-LHR A333 ATL-AMS A333 ATL-CDG A333 AT...

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by panamair
Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier
Replies: 2164
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Re: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier

So... mostly secondary European cities that won't be coming back next summer. No more CPH, DUS, or LIS (which I thought had been doing so well, it was changed from seasonal to year-round); AGP and TXL are really no surprise. JFK-LIS is back starting next summer. The cities suspended are SNN, GLA, D...

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