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by stl07
Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 1203
Views: 147702

Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Grand rapids ha!

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by stl07
Tue Jul 16, 2019 6:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 1203
Views: 147702

Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Yay, 500 more people in west county.

In all seriousness though, this was a good announcement and only puts us one step closer.

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by stl07
Tue Jul 16, 2019 5:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Next wave of TATL per Boyd Group
Replies: 160
Views: 18968

Re: Next wave of TATL per Boyd Group

As to why 'those' airports made the list: Boyd is a consultancy; perhaps those airports PAID THEM to say that. :checkmark: :checkmark: :checkmark: How can you make a list and NOT include some of the most rumored cities (as in the airports have come out and said they are on a shortlist) like BNA and...

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by stl07
Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:30 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: TN gov declares day honoring Confederate general and early KKK leader
Replies: 20
Views: 1599

Re: TN gov declares day honoring Confederate general and early KKK leader

I thought there was an effort several years ago to put Tubman on a bill? What happened to that? Trump cancelled it Eh. Nope. https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/07/15/obama-officials-say-trump-administration-hasnt-delayed-new-bill-despite-harriet-tubman-firestorm/?utm_term=.28c220c6d469 Hu...

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by stl07
Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:01 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 1203
Views: 147702

Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

But Condor has a nice buisness class. I doubt Bayer would need F. But who knows, this is why I'm not an airport director.

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by stl07
Tue Jul 16, 2019 2:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 1203
Views: 147702

Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

I am not one to say one big business makes enough demand for a TATL flight but I just want to make note. With the governor involved I would hope it actually will be a big expansion. Bayer already moved their NA headquarters to STL from North Carolina. They closed their PIT office. It can do nothing...

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by stl07
Tue Jul 16, 2019 2:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 1203
Views: 147702

Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

^^their 787s don't come in till like 2023 so I'm confused on what the airport is saying as well. I feel like Bayer, sigma, ect would throw money at condor instead as their subsidy requirements are much lower and the plane is a good size (767) Compared to 330 and 350 at Lufthansa right now.

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by stl07
Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Next wave of TATL per Boyd Group
Replies: 160
Views: 18968

Re: Next wave of TATL per Boyd Group

Top dozen markets to next get TATL : https://www.aviationplanning.com/monday-update-april-1-2019/ No particular order: ALB, MHT, PVD, GRR, CMH, ORF, RIC, SDF, CVG, MEM, SAV, JAX edit - CVG and PVD already have TATL Traditional Demand Drivers Are Out. The key point is to understand that the new crit...

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by stl07
Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:06 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: TN gov declares day honoring Confederate general and early KKK leader
Replies: 20
Views: 1599

Re: TN gov declares day honoring Confederate general and early KKK leader

Dieuwer wrote:
stl07 wrote:
Why are we honoring the KKK while we can't even put Harriet Tubman on our money even though she was supposed to be on it. The founding fathers would be very disappointed in us.


I thought there was an effort several years ago to put Tubman on a bill? What happened to that?

Trump cancelled it

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by stl07
Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: EI flies DUB-ADB?
Replies: 14
Views: 2439

Re: EI flies DUB-ADB?

bhxalex wrote:
Was it really not that obvious?

No, That's why he asked :banghead:

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by stl07
Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:22 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: TN gov declares day honoring Confederate general and early KKK leader
Replies: 20
Views: 1599

Re: TN gov declares day honoring Confederate general and early KKK leader

Why are we honoring the KKK while we can't even put Harriet Tubman on our money even though she was supposed to be on it. The founding fathers would be very disappointed in us.

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by stl07
Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:15 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: A day that will live...somewhere
Replies: 12
Views: 1271

Re: A day that will live...somewhere

Airstud, early at the airport? For someone who is interested in airplanes and airports, how is this a problem? Most aviation enthusiasts would be thrilled to have a little extra time at the airport before their flight departs. I think we all know people like you: — always finds something to complai...

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by stl07
Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:12 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: NYC Power Outage
Replies: 22
Views: 1590

Re: NYC Power Outage

Boohoo, the power went out and affected the lives of the precious New Yorkers, therefore, it should be on national news. Grow a pair, the power goes out here in STL all the time because of our storms

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by stl07
Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:23 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Residing in Mexico and "living" in the US
Replies: 14
Views: 1059

Re: Residing in Mexico and "living" in the US

I have heard it can sometimes take hours to cross the border. Why not just live in a less expensive part of CA like Temecula or Hesperia or somewhere like that? If I were to commute each day I would buy the fast pass, its like 20 dollars and includes precheck at the airport too. Temecula doesn't so...

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by stl07
Sat Jul 13, 2019 7:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: American Airlines To Introduce Free WiFi
Replies: 54
Views: 8089

Re: Rumor: American Airlines To Introduce Free WiFi

Maybe that's just a Norwegian thing then I flew Easyjet and Level. Level would not even give you complimentary water without paying for it, or snacks for 7 1/2 hour flight. And starting this month I believe the IFE is now a pay for item on Level. AA offering free wifi is not that far of step than w...

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by stl07
Sat Jul 13, 2019 7:38 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Residing in Mexico and "living" in the US
Replies: 14
Views: 1059

Re: Residing in Mexico and "living" in the US

Well, I don’t know a few who do this and they seem to enjoy it. That said, and I live in downtown SF and certainly don’t make tons of money, it is possible to have a very pleasant life in California. I suppose there are sacrifices and trade-offs, but I happen to believe it’s more than worth it. The...

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by stl07
Sat Jul 13, 2019 7:16 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: A day that will live...somewhere
Replies: 12
Views: 1271

Re: A day that will live...somewhere

See now, if you flew Sun Country to stl instead, your two hours would have been well spend in lines and you would never have been bored. Also, their check in counter had free donuts for passengers :). And you would have saved a lot of dinero in exchange for some cramped legs

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by stl07
Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Asia X looks at US West Coast
Replies: 76
Views: 10170

Re: Air Asia X looks at US West Coast

Whenever I look, stl-east asia is always 500ish rt, sometimes even less for China. Have fun beating that

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by stl07
Sat Jul 13, 2019 4:21 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Residing in Mexico and "living" in the US
Replies: 14
Views: 1059

Re: Residing in Mexico and "living" in the US

Perhaps if something sounds too good to be true it really is "too good to be true"? After all, if e.g. Tijuana is such a fantastic location would not the entire San Diego community have relocated? Places like Ensenada are not bad bad at all, in fact, they have very little crime. But unlik...

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by stl07
Sat Jul 13, 2019 4:17 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Residing in Mexico and "living" in the US
Replies: 14
Views: 1059

Re: Residing in Mexico and "living" in the US

Well, I don’t know a few who do this and they seem to enjoy it. That said, and I live in downtown SF and certainly don’t make tons of money, it is possible to have a very pleasant life in California. I suppose there are sacrifices and trade-offs, but I happen to believe it’s more than worth it. The...

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by stl07
Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:56 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: How come DL185 (ATL-PVG) is not a polar route today but DL583 (DTW-PVG) is!?
Replies: 50
Views: 7565

Re: How come DL185 (ATL-PVG) is not a polar route today but DL583 (DTW-PVG) is!?

Atlanta is much hotter than Detroit. The aircraft could experience sudden temperature changes going from the very warm southern US (ATL) into a freezing polar environment. These sudden temp fluctuations could possibly compromise aircraft structure. Have you ever flown into Los Angles in the winter?...

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by stl07
Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:39 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Residing in Mexico and "living" in the US
Replies: 14
Views: 1059

Residing in Mexico and "living" in the US

Despite not agreeing with everything they do politically, I have always wanted to live in CA as I am a big outdoors guy. However, I could not afford the lifestyle I live here in STL out in CA. However, as Mexican border cities have become safer as gangs stop fighting each other (just look at Cuidad ...

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by stl07
Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: American Airlines To Introduce Free WiFi
Replies: 54
Views: 8089

Re: Rumor: American Airlines To Introduce Free WiFi

william wrote:
stl07 wrote:
EA CO AS wrote:
Everyone is going to free WiFi; it’s just a matter of time. What is presently a service differentiator will become an industry standard.

Isn't it already the norm in Europe with airlines like Norwegian


No, especially the LCCs.

Maybe that's just a Norwegian thing then

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by stl07
Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: American Airlines To Introduce Free WiFi
Replies: 54
Views: 8089

Re: Rumor: American Airlines To Introduce Free WiFi

tphuang wrote:
jsnww81 wrote:
Ishrion wrote:

Interesting to see this rumor in response Delta's WiFi trials.


Delta leads, AA follows. American's entire strategy summed up in four words.


both several years behind B6.

Yea but AA and DL actually have a route network, which is the reason one flies, not for tech gimmicks

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by stl07
Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:18 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Saudi Arabia as Tourist Destination
Replies: 78
Views: 4750

Re: Saudi Arabia as Tourist Destination

But you can also do red sea diving from Israel and Jordan, 2 much MUCH better tourist destinations, both of which are on my bucket list of places to see. SA would be a hard sell over those two countries I just said Red Sea diving is one of the attractions. As for Israel and Jordan, their Red Sea co...

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by stl07
Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:16 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: How come DL185 (ATL-PVG) is not a polar route today but DL583 (DTW-PVG) is!?
Replies: 50
Views: 7565

Re: How come DL185 (ATL-PVG) is not a polar route today but DL583 (DTW-PVG) is!?

I love how even after the poster said it was a joke, people continue to make comments about it or the site quality going down.

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by stl07
Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: American Airlines To Introduce Free WiFi
Replies: 54
Views: 8089

Re: Rumor: American Airlines To Introduce Free WiFi

EA CO AS wrote:
Everyone is going to free WiFi; it’s just a matter of time. What is presently a service differentiator will become an industry standard.

Isn't it already the norm in Europe with airlines like Norwegian

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by stl07
Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:03 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Saudi Arabia as Tourist Destination
Replies: 78
Views: 4750

Re: Saudi Arabia as Tourist Destination

But you can also do red sea diving from Israel and Jordan, 2 much MUCH better tourist destinations, both of which are on my bucket list of places to see. SA would be a hard sell over those two countries

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by stl07
Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:16 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Saudi Arabia as Tourist Destination
Replies: 78
Views: 4750

Re: Saudi Arabia as Tourist Destination

They also beheaded someone for ripping up a Koran if I remember correctly. Not something I would do if I were there as I actually respect other cultures but not the place I would go on vacation to

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by stl07
Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:33 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Saudi Arabia as Tourist Destination
Replies: 78
Views: 4750

Re: Saudi Arabia as Tourist Destination

How about you look down 5 threads where it says Saudi Arabia beheads 37 and make the decision by yourself

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by stl07
Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 1203
Views: 147702

Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

^^The feds said the "per passenger" thing wouldn't fly, as cape air could come in with an a380 and say their per passenger rate was less. The overall for SkyWest isn't much more, so we'll see what the feds have to say on this one That's fair! Both UIN and CGI in 2017 were higher then Cape...

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by stl07
Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 1203
Views: 147702

Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

^^The feds said the "per passenger" thing wouldn't fly, as cape air could come in with an a380 and say their per passenger rate was less. The overall for SkyWest isn't much more, so we'll see what the feds have to say on this one That's fair! Both UIN and CGI in 2017 were higher then Cape...

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by stl07
Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:19 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Saudi Arabia as Tourist Destination
Replies: 78
Views: 4750

Re: Saudi Arabia as Tourist Destination

Not personally, I don't think so as they have quite a reputation for themselves. They are certainly trying, though. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeddah_Tower Russia is extremely historic but most tourists skip out on Russia for other European destinations instead, for similar reasons. And Russia's ...

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by stl07
Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:41 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: How come DL185 (ATL-PVG) is not a polar route today but DL583 (DTW-PVG) is!?
Replies: 50
Views: 7565

Re: How come DL185 (ATL-PVG) is not a polar route today but DL583 (DTW-PVG) is!?

Atlanta is much hotter than Detroit. The aircraft could experience sudden temperature changes going from the very warm southern US (ATL) into a freezing polar environment. These sudden temp fluctuations could possibly compromise aircraft structure. Have you ever flown into Los Angles in the winter?...

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by stl07
Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 1203
Views: 147702

Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

^^The feds said the "per passenger" thing wouldn't fly, as cape air could come in with an a380 and say their per passenger rate was less. The overall for SkyWest isn't much more, so we'll see what the feds have to say on this one

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by stl07
Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Atlanta Mayor OK's Smoking Ban at ATL
Replies: 188
Views: 14472

Re: Atlanta Mayor OK's Smoking Ban at ATL

I get political correctness, but a percentage of travelers are going to smoke. PERIOD. Designated smoking area outside, BEFORE security. How is that related to political correctness? It doesn't. Everyone who disagrees with you is just being too politically correct or is a snowflake. Get with it man...

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by stl07
Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:20 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Planned storming of Area 51 9/20
Replies: 88
Views: 7783

Re: Planned storming of Area 51 9/20

I'm going to use DL717s term. If any fool tries this out the government will hopefully give them the Darwin award.

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by stl07
Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:10 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: London Eye Success
Replies: 10
Views: 1304

Re: London Eye Success

The view is actually nice and historical with a blend of modern.

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by stl07
Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:21 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Service to/from Cozumel, Mexico?
Replies: 5
Views: 567

Re: Service to/from Cozumel, Mexico?

The same thing can be seen at Savannah airport and Hilton head airport in GA. Most flights leave from Savannah but a select few leave from Hilton Head for those willing to pay the upcharge. Hilton head island is easily drivable from Savannah, just like Cozumel is from CUN Cozumel is on an island in...

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by stl07
Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 1203
Views: 147702

Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

Good news: Owensboro Airport recommends to keep Cape Air as their EAS provider. They want to keep STL and add BNA also. DOT has to approve still. https://www.messenger-inquirer.com/news/local/cape-air-recommended-for-essential-air-services-contract/article_9ffa265d-06e5-53fb-aa4c-492555ac02b7.html ...

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by stl07
Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:49 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: To the Grand Canyon Via Southwest part 1
Replies: 1
Views: 2851

Re: To the Grand Canyon Via Southwest part 1

Great report. Love the maps you posted. Are you in college at parks or something?

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by stl07
Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates looking into Iceland service
Replies: 23
Views: 6746

Re: Emirates looking into Iceland service

The number of Asian + ANZ visitors to Iceland is pretty small - less than half the NA count or even the British Isles. That's a long way to travel for a comparatively short holiday. Bollywood likes it, therefore, it will become popular Indians. That's a huge market. Even WW saw it in their last few...

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by stl07
Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:50 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Gatorade brings back Strawberry Kiwi flavor for a limited time
Replies: 14
Views: 2341

Re: Gatorade brings back Strawberry Kiwi flavor for a limited time

johns624 wrote:
1337Delta764 wrote:
My normal go-to sports drink currently is Powerade Strawberry Lemonade
What sports do you participate in?

Tell me you have not had a sports drink while being inactive in sports

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by stl07
Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: EL AL...MCO official announcement
Replies: 84
Views: 10086

Re: EL AL...MCO official announcement

ORDfan101 wrote:
WHY NOT ORD YET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Royal Jordanian

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by stl07
Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA’s New Tourist Centric Int’l Routes
Replies: 56
Views: 11450

Re: UA’s New Tourist Centric Int’l Routes

Interesting how when all these flights were being launched, all the comments were leisure=low fare=bottem barrel yield=these routes won't last, but now all the comments have flipped to "these routes chase high yielding leisure travelers"

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by stl07
Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA’s New Tourist Centric Int’l Routes
Replies: 56
Views: 11450

Re: UA’s New Tourist Centric Int’l Routes

Is this trend likely to continue? What are possible reasons for the diversion from traditional market adds anchored by business traffic? What are possible threats to this trend? Will we see this AA and DL follow suit ? 77H You're years late in identifying the trend. DL's JFK-Pisa (since axed), JFK-...

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by stl07
Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:31 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Service to/from Cozumel, Mexico?
Replies: 5
Views: 567

Re: Service to/from Cozumel, Mexico?

The same thing can be seen at Savannah airport and Hilton head airport in GA. Most flights leave from Savannah but a select few leave from Hilton Head for those willing to pay the upcharge. Hilton head island is easily drivable from Savannah, just like Cozumel is from CUN

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by stl07
Tue Jul 09, 2019 4:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: ANY update on Southwest to Canada
Replies: 52
Views: 7743

Re: ANY update on Southwest to Canada

Any update on WN to Toronto?... BUF. Except for very rare exceptions, it is unlikely someone from Toronto would drive to Buffalo to fly to the United States. (The reasons why have been hashed about this site for a decade so I won't repeat them all). This is from Wiki, so take it how you will, but 1...

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by stl07
Tue Jul 09, 2019 3:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 1203
Views: 147702

Re: St. Louis Aviation Thread - 2019

FYI, this may have been mentioned but there is a UA express plane with the new livery sitting in one of the hangers, I saw it while taking off

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