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by TurboJet707
Fri Mar 09, 2018 7:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Turkish Airlines MoU for 25 A350 and 25 787
Replies: 48
Views: 9911

Re: Turkish Airlines MoU for 25 A350 and 25 787

"Rolls-Royce wins a landmark Trent order from Turkish Airlines" https://www.rolls-royce.com/media/press-releases/yr-2018/09-03-2018-rr-wins-a-landmark-trent-order-from-turkish-airlines.aspx It's just for the A350s, so GE is probably getting the 787 engine order. Good for Rolls-Royce, but ...

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by TurboJet707
Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:01 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LH introduces revised livery
Replies: 1106
Views: 212279

Re: LH introduces revised livery

Not a big surprise that the blue turns out too dark. On cloudy days (and those are far from rare in Germany ;)), it can be mistaken for black: 4842799 The communication that Innsbruckflyer refers to also mentions that an alternative livery variant will be developed in which the 'Lufthansa' script wi...

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by TurboJet707
Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:07 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Airline customer codes question
Replies: 27
Views: 2747

Re: Airline customer codes question

Only exception that I can think of is the 707-138 which was a unique short-body, long-range version of the 707 specially developed for and only sold to Qantas. One could argue that the later 720 was inspired by this design. Which of course was the original 707 that Qantas contracted for. Boeing len...

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by TurboJet707
Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LH introduces revised livery
Replies: 1106
Views: 212279

Re: LH introduces revised livery

Yeah sure, slap a swoosh on here, a swirl on there, add a few more colours, change the font to Comic Sans, paint a pair of wraparound shades around the cockpit windows and add a nice big smile under the nosecone and give it plenty of "personality" -- and see how that goes down . . . :eyep...

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by TurboJet707
Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:42 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Airline customer codes question
Replies: 27
Views: 2747

Re: Airline customer codes question

Interestingly, the range started with -20 (Boeing), not -01. The numbers were assigned in a chronological order. I believe the numbering started with the 707. That plane's first customer was PanAm, so PanAm got 707-121s (and later 707-321s). United got -22, -23 was for American, -24 for Continental ...

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by TurboJet707
Sat Feb 10, 2018 7:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 1st A330-800 emerges from the paint shop
Replies: 145
Views: 34024

Re: 1st A330-800 emerges from the paint shop

Just curious, has any variant of a model only had 6 orders this far along in the production process? Yes, the Boeing 707-220 (a combination of the 'short' 707-120 body and the larger PW JT4A engines of the 707-320) only ever received 6 orders, from Braniff. One crashed during testing, only 5 were d...

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by TurboJet707
Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing admits 747 has no future as a pax model
Replies: 166
Views: 29774

Re: Boeing admits 747 has no future as a pax model

Nothing.Along with the A380, it's the ugliest passenger jetliner ever built. Thankfully, both are dying their slow death and Mighty Triple Seven is taking over, along with others! Some people can't seem to wait until all civil aircraft are all-white, virtually identical-looking twins, only differen...

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by TurboJet707
Tue Feb 06, 2018 7:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: L-1011 at ONT
Replies: 56
Views: 9599

Re: L-1011 at ONT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4_7dvjpQM


Thanks for that video, I absolutely love it! Woohoo, that typical TriStar noise! :cloudnine: :old:
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LockheedBBD wrote:

This one seems to be operational as well, video from last year: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4_7dvjpQM


Thanks for that video, I absolutely love it! Woohoo, that typical TriStar noise! :cloudnine: :old:

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by TurboJet707
Mon Feb 05, 2018 7:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: L-1011 at ONT
Replies: 56
Views: 9599

Re: L-1011 at ONT

A wonderful aircraft! An extremely rare sight nowadays.

I believe this one is in flyable condition too (although not operated on a regular basis):

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by TurboJet707
Fri Feb 02, 2018 10:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LH introduces revised livery
Replies: 1106
Views: 212279

Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Looks like Malév resurected - and bought Lufthansa. :D 2340831 Well spotted! At least Malév had the dark blue nose cone as a characteristic touch. To my eyes this brought some balance to the design: the blue on the nose echoed the colour on the empennage and thus made the aircraft look less tail-he...

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by TurboJet707
Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LH introduces revised livery
Replies: 1106
Views: 212279

Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Wow, look, an all-white fuselage! With white engines! And look at that, there's also some colour on the tail, and it's wrapped around the rear fuselage!! How cool, how original! Almost just as original as the many other airlines who did exactly the same years ago, like UTA, Qantas, American, Joon, A...

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by TurboJet707
Sat Jan 27, 2018 6:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DC-8-73(F) brought back into service in 2017
Replies: 78
Views: 24799

Re: DC-8-73(F) brought back into service in 2017

Ouch... Apparently much heavier than the crew assumed; wrong weight calculation?

I was hoping to get some news about this old workhorse, this is not really the news I was looking forward to...
Glad that nobody was hurt and that the plane is still OK.

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by TurboJet707
Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LH introduces revised livery
Replies: 1106
Views: 212279

Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

I would really be disappointed if this here above would be the actual new livery. Very bland, boring and unimaginative. The 'wrap-around' under the empennage has been done before by Iberia, Alitalia, Airbus, American, Scoot and Qantas (among many others, I'm sure) so that is hardly original or recog...

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by TurboJet707
Thu Jan 25, 2018 3:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LH introduces revised livery
Replies: 1106
Views: 212279

Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Thing is, mindlessly bitching about "Eurowhite" when the entire global design community has been trending toward minimalism for at least a decade doesn't really serve a purpose. Perhaps critics should read a book or reach out to a design professional on Twitter and try to understand the l...

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by TurboJet707
Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LH introduces revised livery
Replies: 1106
Views: 212279

Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

bebaddogood wrote:
Maybe they'll be adding the 5 stars on the tail, just like on this uniform pin Image


Ouch, that would look very cheap and nasty. Nothing classy about that.

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by TurboJet707
Thu Nov 02, 2017 12:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airliners Which Almost Bankrupted Manufacturers
Replies: 45
Views: 9566

Re: Airliners Which Almost Bankrupted Manufacturers

The development of the 707/KC-135 was also a big gamble for Boeing. Huge amounts of Boeing's own money were invested in 'a step into the unknown'. There were no orders when development started and it was far from sure whether there would be any demand from the airlines or the military. Boeing had al...

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by TurboJet707
Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking/Production Part 18
Replies: 2065
Views: 207312

Re: Official 747-8 Flight Tracking/Production Part 18

N605UP has been named the "Spirit of Joe Sutter" if you look closely right behind the AoA sensors on the nose you can see it written in cursive. This was done as a tribute to Boeing and Joe with UPS being possibly the last large order of the 747. This is the first and only aircraft in the...

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by TurboJet707
Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DC-8-73(F) brought back into service in 2017
Replies: 78
Views: 24799

Re: DC-8-73(F) brought back into service in 2017

Thanks for the link to that video, 747classic! It's great.
I hope these guys will be able to make some money with it and to keep it flying for a long time.

BTW, the plane is just one month younger than I am. So it's not old at all :-)

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by TurboJet707
Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DC-8-73(F) brought back into service in 2017
Replies: 78
Views: 24799

Re: DC-8-73(F) brought back into service in 2017

I don't think that there is any non-modded DC-8 left? Actually yes, according to this interesting thread from a few months ago: http://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1366019&p=19638407&hilit=dc8#p19638407 I was surprised to read that as well. It must have been ages since I ...

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by TurboJet707
Fri Sep 22, 2017 10:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: First Air Canada Airbus A330 painted in the new livery
Replies: 107
Views: 21760

Re: First Air Canada Airbus A330 painted in the new livery

That's possible too, of course. I like it when an airline makes a subtle homage to their past. But the shape of the A330 mask is more like in the old Continental livery, wrapped around the nose with a straight line at the top and the bottom line swept upwards at the edges to meet the top. More flowi...

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by TurboJet707
Thu Sep 21, 2017 5:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: First Air Canada Airbus A330 painted in the new livery
Replies: 107
Views: 21760

Re: First Air Canada Airbus A330 painted in the new livery

Quitte nice actually. I prefer it over the toothpaste livery. The 'cockpit mask' could have been inspired by the old Continental 'Golden Jet' livery on their B720s. http://jonproctor.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/720-024B-N57203-SAN-62662-1-7356676-2-860x560.jpg Now that's a plane.... ;)

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by TurboJet707
Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:30 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Possible Turkish 747-8i order
Replies: 93
Views: 26250

Re: Possible Turkish 747-8i order

Yes, there have been vague stories about THY considering the A380 and B747-8i for years, and if this article were just as vague, I wouldn't take it seriously. However, this article is far more concrete than the speculative stories we've seen so far, and that makes it more credible to me: A number of...

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by TurboJet707
Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Greenpeace: Schiphol and KLM need to shrink
Replies: 150
Views: 13115

Re: Greenpeace: Schiphol and KLM need to shrink

I'm wondering why KLM is mentioned specifically here. If KLM would need to reduce flights more than Schiphol, the other airlines would happily take their slots. If Schiphol and KLM would have to decrease equally, the traveling public would just move to DUS, BRU or FRA. Many jobs would be lost in The...

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by TurboJet707
Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 707 Fleet Tracking & Retirements Thread
Replies: 11
Views: 4609

Re: 707 Fleet Tracking & Retirements Thread

Many thanks for this thread on my favourite aircraft! You've clearly invested a lot of time and research! Much appreciated. As suggested by your comment regarding one of the IAF's Re'em, can a JT4A engined 707 (so NOT a 320B or C) be retrofitted with JT3Ds ? The JT4A powered 707 shared the RR Conway...

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by TurboJet707
Fri Jun 16, 2017 8:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Active DC-8 Fleet Tracking/Retirements/Discussion Thread
Replies: 90
Views: 15160

Re: Douglas DC-8 Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread

DC-8's were built like tanks, so they last longer. They had longer landing gear that allowed them to be stretched more than 707's. The longer versions of the 60 series, the 61 and 63 models were the most likely to get reengined with CFM-56's. The DC-8 71 and 73 models were excellent for freight con...

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by TurboJet707
Fri Jun 16, 2017 1:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Active DC-8 Fleet Tracking/Retirements/Discussion Thread
Replies: 90
Views: 15160

Re: Douglas DC-8 Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread

Many thanks for this thread! I must admit that I thought the venerable -8 had already completely disappeared from the skies. Must be at least 15 years since I last saw one. Good to see some of them are still flying, and that roughly 50% even still have their original P&W JT3D fuel-to-noise conve...

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by TurboJet707
Tue Jun 06, 2017 9:39 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: John Travolta Donates N707JT
Replies: 67
Views: 26803

Re: John Travolta Donates N707JT

There are at least a few DC-8s still roaming the skies. This NASA bird has been active out of FLL for the last few weeks doing atmospheric research , and this Samaritan's Purse bird , which transports an emergency field hospital and staff , appears to have returned from a mission in Liberia just a ...

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by TurboJet707
Tue May 30, 2017 11:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: John Travolta Donates N707JT
Replies: 67
Views: 26803

Re: John Travolta Donates N707JT

The best web site all about the Qantas Boeing 707's is VH-JET#1 & Her Sisters which is well worth a visit. The site has the histories of all the Qantas 707s including some very rare colour pictures of the interior of a Qantas 707 in 1960 which I found fascinating. It's a really good web site. F...

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by TurboJet707
Tue May 30, 2017 9:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: John Travolta Donates N707JT
Replies: 67
Views: 26803

Re: John Travolta Donates N707JT

That's a nice gesture of mr Travolta. I hope that this gorgeous 707 will continue to fly once in a while. While there are many piston engined airliners (DC3, DC4, Constellation etc) still flying as living aviation heritage, there are virtually no classic jets left that can still be seen (and heard ;...

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by TurboJet707
Sat May 20, 2017 7:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Does/Will Boeing Regret "Burning" a 7x7 designation on the 717?
Replies: 85
Views: 12939

Re: Does/Will Boeing Regret "Burning" a 7x7 designation on the 717?

The name 707, for the very first model in the now famous 7*7 series, was chosen just because it sounded cool: seven-oh-seven. It should start with a seven, as 4**, 5**, 6** were already in use for other Boeing product lines (military gear etc), but for the rest, 707 had no specific meaning for Boein...

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by TurboJet707
Tue May 16, 2017 9:39 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The end of scheduled A345 service?
Replies: 54
Views: 10764

Re: The death of the A345?

Very sad to see this gorgeous plane gradually disappear from the skies :( One could say that the A340-500 is today's (or actually yesterday's :smile: ) Convair CV990 Coronado: Both sold in disappointingly small numbers Both were widely regarded as the best looking planes of their time Both had speci...

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by TurboJet707
Mon May 15, 2017 9:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: ANA 787 engine troubles - emergency landing in Siberia
Replies: 67
Views: 29021

Re: ANA 787 engine troubles - emergency landing in Siberia

Thanks Paul for the picture and the inside info!

On a side note: for the usual bunch of plane spotters at Bratsk airport (if any) this must have been quite an event :-)
I can imagine they don't get to see a Japanese 787 in real life too often!

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by TurboJet707
Sat May 13, 2017 10:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 720 - why were they retired?
Replies: 36
Views: 9919

Re: Boeing 720 - why were they retired?

[threeid][/threeid] The -8 also had the advantage of a fuselage that could be stretched and the CFM mod kept them competitive on fuel costs. GF That's absolutely true. Boeing tried a 707-700 with CFM56s too, but in the end it was regarded as a threat to the then-new 757 so the project was abandoned....

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by TurboJet707
Sat May 13, 2017 8:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 720 - why were they retired?
Replies: 36
Views: 9919

Re: Boeing 720 - why were they retired?

I've always found the 720 a fascinating plane. Imagine an aircraft with the same seating capacity as a 737-800, but with 4 screaming, smoking, thundering engines, a 3-man cockpit and a large, strongly swept wing. Add to that the atypical name for a Boeing. I think it's very cool. Compared to the inn...

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by TurboJet707
Wed May 10, 2017 5:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Does/Will Boeing Regret "Burning" a 7x7 designation on the 717?
Replies: 85
Views: 12939

Re: Does/Will Boeing Regret "Burning" a 7x7 designation on the 717?

Many thanks SkyVoice for your warm welcome!

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by TurboJet707
Wed May 10, 2017 1:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 50 Years ago Today: Fokker F28 First Flight
Replies: 23
Views: 2864

Re: 50 Years ago Today: Fokker F28 First Flight

Always loved this friendly plane, but it was extremely loud in my experience. Almost as noisy as a BAC 1-11 or Trident. A wonderful thunder that could still be heard when the plane was long out of sight.

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by TurboJet707
Wed May 10, 2017 12:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Does/Will Boeing Regret "Burning" a 7x7 designation on the 717?
Replies: 85
Views: 12939

Re: Does/Will Boeing Regret "Burning" a 7x7 designation on the 717?

I'm surprised that no one has mentioned this before now, but there was a Boeing jet-powered aircraft that was not designated as a 7X7. That was the four-engine Boeing 720. Only 154 of them were manufactured, but the 720 did show a small profit for Boeing. The Boeing 720 competed with its parent pla...

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