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by PacoMartin
Tue Dec 10, 2019 6:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Potential for A321 XLR
Replies: 130
Views: 22683

Re: Potential for A321 XLR

Just like the 787 continues to "unlock" all sorts of long range city pairs, the real magic of the XLR will be opening new medium distance city pairs. I believe the US has 8 preclearance facilities in Canada and 2 in Ireland (Shannon and Dublin). I hope they get installed in Edinburgh, Gla...

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by PacoMartin
Tue Dec 10, 2019 5:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: British Airways at BWI
Replies: 70
Views: 10720

Re: British Airways a BWI

Not to nit-pick, but San Juan is not international. I showed up at Guam once without a passport and pointed out to security that Guam was not an international destination. They told me to shut up and bring a passport next time. I have a tendency to include territories with international destination...

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by PacoMartin
Tue Dec 10, 2019 4:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Potential for A321 XLR
Replies: 130
Views: 22683

Re: Potential for A321 XLR

naut. mi / km average flight 3616.5 / 6698 Trans Atlantic US carriers 4404.9 / 8158 Trans Pacific US carriers So even with winter factored in the still air range of the XLR (4700 nm) covers the average flight range of TATL Could we keep to one set of units; you use nm & st m in the first compari...

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by PacoMartin
Tue Dec 10, 2019 4:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Potential for A321 XLR
Replies: 130
Views: 22683

Re: Potential for A321 XLR

We have to remember, there is a huge market for this aircraft in a lot of places other than TATL. US carriers to Latin America by distance group (flights, seats, average number of seats per flight) 1 4,122 443,286 108 2 11,329 1,437,486 127 3 13,013 1,984,694 153 4 8,877 1,399,752 158 5 2,195 354,6...

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by PacoMartin
Tue Dec 10, 2019 4:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Potential for A321 XLR
Replies: 130
Views: 22683

Re: Potential for A321 XLR

So you can easily see that your gonna need at least an extra 400km range reserve to translate from still air to real world. Given the compensation risk to airlines of overbooking - and if they have no widebody alternate flights they can rebook folks onto easily - then they may want up to 800km of r...

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by PacoMartin
Tue Dec 10, 2019 3:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Potential for A321 XLR
Replies: 130
Views: 22683

Re: Potential for A321 XLR

What % of Group 8/9/10 flights are flown by 757s today for UA DL AA? Let's keep in mind that the longest flight in the world on a B752 is Iceland to San Francisco which is 3,641 nm or 4,200 statute miles. Foreign carriers tend to push the envelope more than domestic ones. Distance Group- % flights ...

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by PacoMartin
Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:56 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Potential for A321 XLR
Replies: 130
Views: 22683

Potential for A321 XLR

For May 2019 transatlantic flights (UA, DL, AA) So 45.5% were up to distance group #8 or less than 4000 statute miles (3476 nautical miles) So 68.7% were up to distance group #9 or less than 4500 statute miles (3910 nautical miles) So 84.7% were up to distance group #10 or less than 5000 statute mil...

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by PacoMartin
Tue Dec 10, 2019 4:14 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: British Airways at BWI
Replies: 70
Views: 10720

Re: British Airways a BWI

Anyone know why BWI can’t hold any international airlines other than BA (with a heavy subsidy)? You would think that the Maryland DC suburbs plus government related business plus Baltimore could at least hold a route to a hub. BWI does have a few more international flights than just London (but not...

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by PacoMartin
Mon Dec 09, 2019 8:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United orders 50 A321 XLR, defers A350's to 2027
Replies: 481
Views: 85712

Re: United orders 50 A321 XLR, defers A350's to 2027

NYPECO wrote:
I thought we're discussing the recent A321 order in this thread?


Can the 50 A321 XLR replace one for one the 53 Boeing 757-200s with the same exact seating?
16 + 45 + 108 =169
28 + 42 +72 =142
I'm not sure if they have the same surface area.

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by PacoMartin
Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing NMA in doubt as customers push for all new 737MAX and 757 replacement
Replies: 1049
Views: 153295

Re: Boeing NMA in doubt as customers push for all new 737MAX and 757 replacement

seahawk wrote:
Another thing to consider is that if Boeing does the NMA now and the FSA later (say 2030+ EIS)...


I have serious doubts that Boeing will ever build single aisle aircraft again if they push the FSA to 2030+.
By then there will be so many competitors that the profit margin might not be there.

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by PacoMartin
Sun Dec 08, 2019 8:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing NMA in doubt as customers push for all new 737MAX and 757 replacement
Replies: 1049
Views: 153295

Re: Boeing NMA in doubt as customers push for all new 737MAX and 757 replacement

The Airbus A321XLR range of 4,700 nautical miles. The Airbus A321LR range of 4,100 nautical miles. The standard Airbus A321neo range of 3,500 nautical miles. The trade-off for the additional range of the LR and XLR variants is reduced seating capacity, with 240, 220 and 200 seats for the A321neo, A3...

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by PacoMartin
Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing NMA in doubt as customers push for all new 737MAX and 757 replacement
Replies: 1049
Views: 153295

Re: Boeing NMA in doubt as customers push for all new 737MAX and 757 replacement

In a few years all 757 and many 767 used domestically or for medium haul will be replaced. A lot of people point out this fact. There are 235 B757s flying for Delta/United/American and about 673 active ones worldwide, but the majority are cargo jets today. In modern economics the replacement value ...

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by PacoMartin
Sat Dec 07, 2019 7:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Third Quarter 2019
Replies: 2
Views: 471

Re: Third Quarter 2019

Operating profit/Operating Revenue fell into a fairly tight band except for American and Sun Country for 3rd quarter 2019 Alaska Airlines Inc. 17.1% Delta Air Lines Inc. 16.4% Hawaiian Airlines Inc. 16.4% Frontier Airlines Inc. 16.3% Allegiant Air 15.6% Southwest Airlines Co. 14.5% United Air Lines ...

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by PacoMartin
Sat Dec 07, 2019 6:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Third Quarter 2019
Replies: 2
Views: 471

Third Quarter 2019

I am posting BTS data for 3rd quarter 2019 ( Operating Profit /Total Operating Revenues ). Please note that I am posting Operating profit and not "net income" since the airlines distribute net income across regions in different manners. ATLANTIC Delta Air Lines Inc. $509,964 / $2,263,014 U...

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by PacoMartin
Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:08 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing NMA in doubt as customers push for all new 737MAX and 757 replacement
Replies: 1049
Views: 153295

Re: Boeing NMA in doubt as customers push for all new 737MAX and 757 replacement

Is there any way the 737-10 can be fitted with large enough tanks for A321XLR / 757-200 range? The MTOW of the 737-10 will be around 90. The MTOW of the A321XLR about 101 t or more. I have my doubts that the 737 will allow a MTOW near 100 t without a serious redesign. The original B737-100 (30 jets...

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by PacoMartin
Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing NMA in doubt as customers push for all new 737MAX and 757 replacement
Replies: 1049
Views: 153295

Re: Boeing NMA in doubt as customers push for all new 737MAX and 757 replacement

Till then IMO it'd be foolish to make an assumption that MAX production will last less than 10 years. Current backlog of 4544 unfilled MAX order / 579 B737s delivered in 2018 = 7.85 years less the jets awaiting delivery. I admit that I am being extremely negative about future orders when I say 10 y...

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by PacoMartin
Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing NMA in doubt as customers push for all new 737MAX and 757 replacement
Replies: 1049
Views: 153295

Re: Boeing NMA in doubt as customers push for all new 737MAX and 757 replacement

I see zero chance any management/shareholders would green-light any plan that seriously undermines the MAX backlog, for example the an "all new 737MAX and 757 replacement" being discussed in this thread. I think that the probability that the MAX will deliver for a full decade is very low....

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by PacoMartin
Wed Dec 04, 2019 4:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing NMA in doubt as customers push for all new 737MAX and 757 replacement
Replies: 1049
Views: 153295

Re: Boeing NMA in doubt as customers push for all new 737MAX and 757 replacement

10 hrs on a narrowbody is probably pushing it anyway. how many city pairs are really viable at that point? The FAA defines flight time as the period during which the plane is under power and capable of movement. This includes not only the actual flight time, but also tasks such as taxiing, deicing ...

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by PacoMartin
Tue Dec 03, 2019 7:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Collapsing US hubs
Replies: 93
Views: 19826

Re: Collapsing US hubs

If we look at average miles to the 29 Large airports (FAA classification), PIT and ORD are nearly identical. PIT 977 miles ORD 976 miles Underlying table of ranges Airpt : ORD | PIT | DTW avg. : 976.2 | 976.9 | 1002.0 SFO : 1846 | 2254 | 2079 LAX : 1744 | 2136 | 1979 PDX : 1739 | 2148 | 1953 SAN : ...

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by PacoMartin
Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Collapsing US hubs
Replies: 93
Views: 19826

Re: Collapsing US hubs

Yes, I don't think PIT was a terrible hub by any means, but it wasn't such a compelling market that it demanded a hub there (the way that some markets do). If we look at average miles to the 29 Large airports (FAA classification), PIT and ORD are nearly identical. PIT 977 miles ORD 976 miles DEN 11...

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by PacoMartin
Tue Dec 03, 2019 6:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why are there no regularly scheduled Texas-East Coast redeyes?
Replies: 70
Views: 10642

Re: Why are there no regularly scheduled Texas-East Coast redeyes?

They are much more common in Mexico. For instance, Tijuana to Acapulco is 1,530 miles and two time zones TIJ 12:30AM ACA 06:00AM ACA 06:35 AM TIJ 08:29 AM The flight times are often reasonable for "visiting friends and relatives" but they are terrible for gringos who want to vacation in Ac...

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by PacoMartin
Tue Dec 03, 2019 6:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Collapsing US hubs
Replies: 93
Views: 19826

Re: Collapsing US hubs

A large portion of STL passengers were kept up due to WN operations at the airport. Perhaps the word "collapse" was too strong a word. These airports had a devestating loss of 1/3 to 1/2 their passengers. I didn't mean "collapse" in the sense that there is no recovery. In fact S...

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by PacoMartin
Tue Dec 03, 2019 4:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Collapsing US hubs
Replies: 93
Views: 19826

Re: Collapsing US hubs

Data from May 2019 I agree no major hubs are "collapsing" anytime soon. Especially with airlines in an extended period of nearly unprecedented growth. Maybe the question should be reworded as "which hubs are the most vulnerable in a future recession?" In that case it's probably: ...

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by PacoMartin
Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Collapsing US hubs
Replies: 93
Views: 19826

Re: Collapsing US hubs

Indeed. The term "hub" is broadly used. I always think connecting hub. The DOT, however, rates all airports (with airline service) as large hubs, medium hubs, small hubs, and non-hubs. I am aware that the FAA terms any airport with more than 1% of the total commercial traffic a "Larg...

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by PacoMartin
Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Collapsing US hubs
Replies: 93
Views: 19826

Re: Collapsing US hubs

How did you come up with the MSP decline? According to their own website (mspairport.com), the number of passengers increased from 2017 to 2018. 38,034,341 in 2017 to 38,037,381 in 2018. Albeit very minor, MSP did this with nearly 9,000 fewer operations, indicating a seats/flight increase. The FAA ...

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by PacoMartin
Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Collapsing US hubs
Replies: 93
Views: 19826

Collapsing US hubs

In the past CLE, PIT and STL were once thriving air hubs and have at one time collapsed. At present (2017-2018) the 30 Large airports in the US are growing at 4% which is slightly lower than the 5% of commercial traffic growth (measured by number of passengers). The 31 Medium airports and 69 Small a...

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by PacoMartin
Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 'Hub-busting' effect of A321(X)LR compared to 787
Replies: 84
Views: 14840

Re: 'Hub-busting' effect of A321(X)LR compared to 787

The point is not the range to operate these routes, but the economics to operate the routes with payloads that made economics sense. Absolutely agree. The same thing happened to domestic US flying in the 1990s when inexpensive aircraft capable of flying over 3000 nmi became widely available and you...

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by PacoMartin
Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The first Airbus A320 to break the 30-year in service mark
Replies: 203
Views: 76686

Re: The first Airbus A320 to break the 30-year in service mark

I once read that the A320 is what forced Boeing to develop the 73G and the 738. United was not impressed with the 734 and refused to order it. I think that anecdote is certainly true. The only variants not ordered by United were the 737-100, 737-400, and 737-600 The 734 was first delivered 24 weeks...

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by PacoMartin
Sun Dec 01, 2019 11:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 'Hub-busting' effect of A321(X)LR compared to 787
Replies: 84
Views: 14840

Re: 'Hub-busting' effect of A321(X)LR compared to 787

Am I the only one here that doesn't know what "hub busting" means? Boeing positioned its 787 as a “hub-buster” that would not require passengers to transfer through hubs. Yet 73% of 787 flights are between hubs, among those operated by airlines with more than hub. Hub-to-secondary flights...

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by PacoMartin
Sun Dec 01, 2019 2:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 'Hub-busting' effect of A321(X)LR compared to 787
Replies: 84
Views: 14840

Re: 'Hub-busting' effect of A321(X)LR compared to 787

DFW great circle range to major South American airports in nautical miles 2119 BOG 2917 LIM 4055 BSB 4231 SCL 4442 GRU 4593 EZE The A321 XLR may actually increase the concentration in some US domestic hubs. For instance there may be more tendency for American Airlines to fly greater frequency to Lat...

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by PacoMartin
Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 'Hub-busting' effect of A321(X)LR compared to 787
Replies: 84
Views: 14840

Re: 'Hub-busting' effect of A321(X)LR compared to 787

There is good reason to question if many these are the result of the 787 in particular. Many of the opened routes were by startups who merely ordered the latest plane, Norwegian in particular. But many of those routes were also operated by airlines who had up until the 787 arrived relied on the rat...

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by PacoMartin
Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A350-1000 certified to 480 seats
Replies: 49
Views: 12978

Re: A350-1000 certified to 480 seats

https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Japan ... 77-300.php
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JAL has a 500 seat Boeing 777-300
Business 78 recliner seats
Economy 422 standard seats

https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Japan ... 77-300.php

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by PacoMartin
Sat Nov 30, 2019 4:35 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 'Hub-busting' effect of A321(X)LR compared to 787
Replies: 84
Views: 14840

Re: 'Hub-busting' effect of A321(X)LR compared to 787

Aeroméxico purchased 4 B777-200ER in the 2006-2007 time frame which allowed them to fly from Mexico City to Tokyo. In order to fly from Mexico City to Shanghai–Pudong nonstop (6,975 nm) they would have had to upgauge to the B777-300ER, which was probably out of their price range and their ability to...

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by PacoMartin
Sat Nov 30, 2019 4:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 'Hub-busting' effect of A321(X)LR compared to 787
Replies: 84
Views: 14840

Re: 'Hub-busting' effect of A321(X)LR compared to 787

The 787 has opened up new long haul markets and the 321neo will do the same with medium haul markets. We call it the Dreamliner effect. The airplane's unparalleled fuel efficiency and range flexibility enables carriers to profitably open new routes as well as optimize fleet and network performance....

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by PacoMartin
Wed Nov 27, 2019 7:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 'Hub-busting' effect of A321(X)LR compared to 787
Replies: 84
Views: 14840

Re: 'Hub-busting' effect of A321(X)LR compared to 787

Does an "hub-buster" exist? I think "hub-buster" is a marketing term. Airline travel is expanding so rapidly that point to point over longer ranges just slightly degrades the potential growth rate of hubs. The MAX and even the regular A321neo was supposed to have a strong impact...

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by PacoMartin
Wed Nov 27, 2019 7:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 'Hub-busting' effect of A321(X)LR compared to 787
Replies: 84
Views: 14840

Re: 'Hub-busting' effect of A321(X)LR compared to 787

Frontier will not receive their 321XLRs until 2024. With that said, I can see the Hawaiian islands from DEN and LAS being a real possibility. If such a route would materialize, it would impact the UA hub in Denver. Hawaiian Airlines is going to start LAS to Maui ( Kahului) on December 15, 2019 with...

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by PacoMartin
Wed Nov 27, 2019 3:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Hawaii Airports and Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 214
Views: 34966

Re: Hawaii Airports and Aviation Thread - 2019

May 2019 BTS data was released. For Hawaiian Airlines we have roughly 15-16 A330s per day to mainland, and 11-12 A321neos per day A330 Honolulu, HI 22 Boston, MA 84 Las Vegas, NV 93 Los Angeles, CA 31 New York, NY 31 Phoenix, AZ 31 Portland, OR 31 San Diego, CA 31 San Francisco, CA 15 San Jose, CA 3...

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by PacoMartin
Wed Nov 27, 2019 4:08 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing NMA in doubt as customers push for all new 737MAX and 757 replacement
Replies: 1049
Views: 153295

Re: Boeing NMA in doubt as customers push for all new 737MAX and 757 replacement

A321neo take off thrust 32,160 -33,110 lbf

keesje wrote:
If for 250 seat single class 4000NM range an NMA needs more than 35k lbs thrust engines, I'm not sure if it will be able to meet the benchmark cost efficiency levels.


That's a strong statement that I have not heard before. It may well be true.

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by PacoMartin
Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing NMA in doubt as customers push for all new 737MAX and 757 replacement
Replies: 1049
Views: 153295

Re: Boeing NMA in doubt as customers push for all new 737MAX and 757 replacement

I believe the figures we have for the 797 are ... 52,000lb thrust. Boeing issued a request for proposals (RFP) with a June 27, 2018 deadline for a 45,000 lbf engine with a thrust specific fuel consumption (TSFC) 25% lower than the 757's engines. Reference https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/27/boeing-797-...

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by PacoMartin
Tue Nov 26, 2019 4:56 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Chances of MDT Growing or Adding WN?
Replies: 30
Views: 3636

Re: Chances of MDT Growing or Adding WN?

Harrisburg area is over a million when you include all of Central PA. Also traffic to BWI and PHL is no easy task! Another way to put it is that the population within a 30 mile disk around MDT and ABE is nearly identical. 1,418,618 MDT 1,460,558 ABE It would be wonderful if ABE had the options that...

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by PacoMartin
Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AS MAX impact and the NEO's future
Replies: 261
Views: 46402

Re: AS MAX impact and the NEO's future

If you were more specific, you would have written Manchester, England (which is also part of the UK). ;) I'm not trying to be specific for the Brits who know where everything is. If you did a poll, I guarantee over 50% of Americans do not know that Manchester is a city in England. We have more than...

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by PacoMartin
Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:21 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AS MAX impact and the NEO's future
Replies: 261
Views: 46402

Re: AS MAX impact and the NEO's future

I think AS sees a role for the A321 in the fleet and will possibly order more of them. Customers and crew love it. I wouldn't be surprised to see a split order coming in the next two months from AS for more MAX and more A321's. So I presume you think the existing order for 30 A320neo can be exchang...

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by PacoMartin
Mon Nov 25, 2019 10:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DEN- How much can it grow?
Replies: 120
Views: 14092

Re: DEN- How much can it grow?

You can’t sit here and ignore block time/distance. Common sense says the shorter the distance the more frequencies can be ran between two city pairs. If you have a lot of demand between two city pairs, an airline can run more flights between a hub-outstation. I see it with flights in and out CLT an...

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by PacoMartin
Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:39 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Chances of MDT Growing or Adding WN?
Replies: 30
Views: 3636

Re: Chances of MDT Growing or Adding WN?

For those of you not familiar with Pennsylvania geography ABE and MDT are 77 air miles apart. ABE actually serves the more populous urban area compared to MDT (664,651 to 444,474 in 2010 census). MDT is 141 air miles from EWR, while ABE is only 67 air miles from EWR. MDT is 84 air miles from PHL, wh...

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by PacoMartin
Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:12 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Domestic ------- International passengers in the future
Replies: 6
Views: 1454

Domestic ------- International passengers in the future

Domestic ------- International Passengers Year 551,899,643 118,704,850 2002 777,972,787 235,239,717 2018 The rate of growth for international passengers is roughly double the rate of growth for domestic passengers which would take 56 years until they are the same. Personally, I could see the rate of...

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by PacoMartin
Sun Nov 24, 2019 7:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DEN- How much can it grow?
Replies: 120
Views: 14092

Re: DEN- How much can it grow?

What conclusion are you drawing from this? Average miles to 56 CONUS airports 923 ORD 959 ATL 980 DFW 996 CLT 1037 IAH 1097 DEN My friend used to say that transportation business eventually comes down simple numbers as it gets more mature. The train freight business eventually breaks down to gradie...

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by PacoMartin
Sun Nov 24, 2019 4:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Chances of MDT Growing or Adding WN?
Replies: 30
Views: 3636

Re: Chances of MDT Growing or Adding WN?

I repeat, In the last 6 years, Southwest has added two CONUS domestic destinations Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport (rank #48) Long Beach Long Beach Airport (rank #69) MDT is ranked #112. Southwest serves 80 some airports in Continental USA. They have no reason to dip that low. The...

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by PacoMartin
Sun Nov 24, 2019 8:25 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DEN- How much can it grow?
Replies: 120
Views: 14092

Re: DEN- How much can it grow?

It’s not that they don’t want a megahub, it’s that they can’t really have one. ORD has too much competition, DEN is not in a very populous region and IAH is too far south. I guarantee you if AA ever dehubbed ORD, we would see UA expand to 1,000+ flights there. I could envision AA moving a large num...

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by PacoMartin
Sun Nov 24, 2019 8:04 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Funny: My version of the 737 MAX and I do mean MAX
Replies: 9
Views: 2682

Re: Funny: My version of the 737 MAX and I do mean MAX

Except the installation of the GTF engine on the Boeing 737 aircraft would mean, by my opinion, a large technological stride, in the same time it would represent a historical reunion of the Boeing 737 aircraft and Pratt & Whitney ’s engines, since the first generation of this aircraft - https:/...

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by PacoMartin
Sun Nov 24, 2019 7:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AS MAX impact and the NEO's future
Replies: 261
Views: 46402

Re: AS MAX impact and the NEO's future

Now that they've grown quite a bit, I see no reason not to keep both the NEOs and the 737s, I was just saying Boeing might make it worth their while to stick with just the MAX. For USA airlines we stand at 608 NEO orders vs 549 MAX orders. Switching those 30 orders would make it 578 vs 579. I would...

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