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by PacoMartin
Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aeromexico could fly Guadalajara to Paris
Replies: 83
Views: 12727

Re: Aeromexico could fly Guadalajara to Paris

Given these passenger numbers out of MEX 779,777 Madrid 506,519 Paris 333,992 Amsterdam 252,446 London 220,346 Frankfurt What will happen at GDL next? AMS seems unlikely. Aeroméxico is discontinuing its MEX-TIJ-PVG service to Shangahi next month. I wonder if it is a viable option to go through GDL i...

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by PacoMartin
Wed Nov 13, 2019 10:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Any leaks, ideas, or otherwise: What is Airbus' next clean-sheet aircraft?
Replies: 395
Views: 54579

Re: Any leaks, ideas, or otherwise: What is Airbus' next clean-sheet aircraft?

Instead of doing a clean sheet design, perhaps they can revive the A380neo OEW 277 t | A380 exit limit 853 seats 134.7–145.1 t | A350-900 (737 orders) exit limit 440 seats but suggested 315 (48J+267Y) 155 t | A350-1000 (176 orders) exit limit 440 seats but suggested 369 (54J+315Y) 170? t |A350 -110...

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by PacoMartin
Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AS MAX impact and the NEO's future
Replies: 261
Views: 46497

Re: AS MAX impact and the NEO's future

And thank you for listing a bunch of A321XLR potential that aren’t at all relevant to this discussion. As I understand it Virgin America made an order in 2011 which still has 30 A320neos unfilled. Alaska Airlines inherited that order. I thought one of the options was to up-gauge the order to a high...

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by PacoMartin
Wed Nov 13, 2019 12:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AS MAX impact and the NEO's future
Replies: 261
Views: 46497

Re: AS MAX impact and the NEO's future

NameOmitted wrote:
Helsinki to Hawaii, with a stopover in Anchorage. Book it, done.

HEL - ANC - HNL 3,522 nm + 2,413 nm = 5,935 nm (21 nm further than nonstop)
CPH - ANC - HNL 3,760 nm + 2,413 nm = 6,174 nm
OSL - ANC - HNL 3,481 nm + 2,413 nm = 5,894 nm

A lot of potential there. Good idea!

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by PacoMartin
Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska Air announces Q3 2019 results
Replies: 51
Views: 12902

Re: Alaska Air announces Q3 2019 results

Has to be among the highest net margins we have ever seen in the airline industry. It's impressive. Margins are calculated pre tax. I don't remember Delta turning numbers like this, 15% is the best I remember. Allegiant and Sun Country did very well in the 1st and 2nd quarter Operational Margin - A...

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by PacoMartin
Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AS MAX impact and the NEO's future
Replies: 261
Views: 46497

Re: AS MAX impact and the NEO's future

LAXBUR wrote:
Your posts fill up so much space. But thank you for listing all the international destinations from Seattle. And thank you for listing a bunch of A321XLR potential that aren’t at all relevant to this discussion.


I'm glad you appreciate it. Thank you for your thanks.

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by PacoMartin
Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AS MAX impact and the NEO's future
Replies: 261
Views: 46497

Re: AS MAX impact and the NEO's future

A 321neo is a slightly different tool than a 739. If you happen to have it in your tool box (or shop) you will take advantage of its differences. That does not necessarily mean that if you do not happen to have it that you will buy it. And it works the other way around, if your tools are all 320s ....

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by PacoMartin
Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AS MAX impact and the NEO's future
Replies: 261
Views: 46497

Re: AS MAX impact and the NEO's future

Longest current schedule 1,739 mi LAS TYS Allegiant Air 2,446 mi SFO MCO Frontier Airlines 2,537 mi MSP SXM Sun Country Airlines 2,627 mi FLL LIM Spirit Airlines 2,695 mi OGG LAS Hawaiian Airlines (longest route schedule A321neo) 2,704 mi BOS SFO JetBlue Airways 2,874 mi KOA ANC Alaska Airlines 2,9...

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by PacoMartin
Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AS MAX impact and the NEO's future
Replies: 261
Views: 46497

Re: AS MAX impact and the NEO's future

Maybe AS is warming up to Airbus? Alaska Plans On Having An All Boeing Fleet Long Term As it stands, Virgin America has 65 planes in their fleet, so there’s no way we’re going to see all of those planes retired anytime soon, as it would represent a huge reduction in capacity for the airline. Curren...

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by PacoMartin
Tue Nov 12, 2019 11:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A330Neo - 2019 a great year
Replies: 332
Views: 45692

Re: A330Neo - 2019 a great year

It's also noteworthy that ... no airline in EU other than VS have jumped on the A338/9 bandwagon, seeing that change will be a nice boost to the program. I'm not sure I understand you correctly. Are you perhaps forgetting TAP? Orders 35 North America (Delta) 18 Europe (TAP and VS) 96 Asia 4 Africa ...

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by PacoMartin
Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aeromexico could fly Guadalajara to Paris
Replies: 83
Views: 12727

Re: Aeromexico could fly Guadalajara to Paris

Volaris is quick to point out that Mexicans take 3.094 billion bus trips in a year. I think about 15% of those trips are on luxury buses (often with only 25 lie flat seats per bus, movies, and a general level of service that mimics business class seating on US airlines). This type of bus travel is a...

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by PacoMartin
Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aeromexico could fly Guadalajara to Paris
Replies: 83
Views: 12727

Re: Aeromexico could fly Guadalajara to Paris

The only explanation I can gather is that the "planet Jupiter" of Mexican air service - MEX - draws so much gravity from every other Mexican airport that premium demand for a non-stop simply cannot develop on its own Even with restrictions on take-off weight, MEX has a near-monopoly on in...

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by PacoMartin
Mon Nov 11, 2019 4:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: San Diego Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 1207
Views: 193217

Re: San Diego Aviation Thread - 2019

Pretty sure that was direct, not nonstop. The web page says: United Airlines began offering daily flights from San Diego to Honolulu, the first such regularly scheduled service to Hawaii. So it is not specific. But since wiki list passengers as 6,547,439 in 1983, and 14,942,061 in 2001 when HA star...

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by PacoMartin
Mon Nov 11, 2019 4:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: San Diego Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 1207
Views: 193217

Re: San Diego Aviation Thread - 2019

Hawaiian served since June 25, 2001. Utilizing DC-10s then 767s the. 330s and eventually 321 https://newsroom.hawaiianairlines.com/releases/hawaiian-airlines-to-inaugurate-daily-widebody-dc-10-service-between-san-diego-and-honolulu Thanks for the link. I was able to piece together a fractured histo...

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by PacoMartin
Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A330Neo - 2019 a great year
Replies: 332
Views: 45692

Re: A330Neo - 2019 a great year

At 315 passengers the A359 is quite a bit less dense than a 300 seat A339, 0.88 vs. 0.92m2/pax. Should be 300 vs 329 seats or 288 vs. 315. So its 10% more pax for ~2% more fuel. Quite possibly you are correct, but I was just quoting the actual fuel economy tests (not theoretical calculations). With...

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by PacoMartin
Mon Nov 11, 2019 12:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A330Neo - 2019 a great year
Replies: 332
Views: 45692

Re: A330Neo - 2019 a great year

The A300 vs A330-800 the cabin area is within 10% but the true gap between them is huge. The A300 has less than half of the range which is explained by the A330-800 having a MTOW 35% higher. A330-900 vs A350-900 Cabin area: 9% difference. 265/290 MTOW: 11% difference. 251/280 Range: 12.5% differenc...

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by PacoMartin
Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:43 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A330Neo - 2019 a great year
Replies: 332
Views: 45692

Re: A330Neo - 2019 a great year

It also means that the market share of wb will not be to terrible with A350 10 per month and 330 5 per month. I consider that b787 will be around 10 per month over time 777 around 5 per month and 767 3-4 per month giving airbus 15 per month and boeing 18-19 per month. Boeing had 179 deliveries in t...

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by PacoMartin
Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: San Diego Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 1207
Views: 193217

Re: San Diego Aviation Thread - 2019

According to SAN history 1983 : United Airlines began offering daily flights from San Diego to Honolulu, the first such regularly scheduled service to Hawaii. Obviously these flights must have stopped at some point. I lived in San Diego from 1997 to 2005 and I don't remember ever being able to fly n...

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by PacoMartin
Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: San Diego Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 1207
Views: 193217

Re: San Diego Aviation Thread - 2019

Except that Alaska normally uses the 737-800 on SAN-Hawaii flights, not the A321. You are absolutely correct. I checked the records for April and there was not one single A321 flown by Alaska Airlines (either mainland or Alaska to Hawaii). Mea culpa. 82.2% B737-800 17.8% B737-900ER So it seems that...

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by PacoMartin
Mon Nov 11, 2019 12:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A330Neo - 2019 a great year
Replies: 332
Views: 45692

Re: A330Neo - 2019 a great year

I have just checked the orders and deliveries spreadsheet as of end of October 2019. There only 34 orders for A330neo. Where do you get 50? In the OPs enthusiasm he not only checked the October summary, but added in a press release from November. Grabbing mid-month totals can get confusing. Boeing ...

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by PacoMartin
Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A330Neo - 2019 a great year
Replies: 332
Views: 45692

Re: A330Neo - 2019 a great year

12 from AirAsa 8 from Virgin Atlantic 2 from Uganda Airlines 16 from Cebu and 12 from GECAS, makes 50, 38 directly from airlines 12 from a leasing company, Sometimes it helps to post order dates. Although you are talking about the whole 2019 year, the three big orders came in a five week period. Ai...

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by PacoMartin
Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Did Volaris cancel the Albuquerque-Guadalajara route?
Replies: 17
Views: 2993

Re: Did Volaris cancel the Albuquerque-Guadalajara route?

It seems counterintuitive. If 80% of New Mexico residents are from Chihuahua you would think that the 438 miles route would be a lock.

I remember that southern Mexico had some beautiful bus stations while the airport terminal was more of a featureless blockhouse with a tiny dining area.

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by PacoMartin
Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aeromexico could fly Guadalajara to Paris
Replies: 83
Views: 12727

Re: Aeromexico could fly Guadalajara to Paris

50% more seems like a lot to me. GDL-CDG obviously is about connections past CDG on AF. That is if the flight comes to fruition. Mexican go to Madrid first and Paris second. Americans go to London first and Paris second. Passengers from Mexico city to Madrid leads Paris by 50% . Starting from all U...

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by PacoMartin
Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: San Diego Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 1207
Views: 193217

Re: San Diego Aviation Thread - 2019

Historical number of operations at SAN around time of vote on moving airport to Miramar 16,517,153 2004 215,211 17,569,355 2005 229,192 17,673,483 2006 230,798 San Diego Airport vote: November 7, 2006  18,326,734 2007 243,762 18,125,633 2008 241,213 16,974,172 2009 199,612 worldwide recession ---- 2...

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by PacoMartin
Sun Nov 10, 2019 5:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air France Studies Stretched Airbus "A220-500"
Replies: 217
Views: 39613

Re: Air France Studies Stretched Airbus "A220-500"

Moreover, which aircraft would replace the A330-200? The A330neo? The A330neo was launched on 14 July 2014 at the Farnborough Airshow, promising 14% better fuel economy per seat. Judging by the rather anemic order statistics, many of the older A330 customers are either still flying the older jet, o...

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by PacoMartin
Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Allegiant Discussion Thread - 2019
Replies: 349
Views: 57780

Re: Allegiant Discussion Thread - 2019

Now I am sure that at some point they begin to “run out of options”, however, I think there probably is quite a bit medium size to medium size opportunities for them to explore once they exhaust the small to mega metro areas options. The Operating bases list according to Wikipedia is not formally d...

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by PacoMartin
Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aeromexico could fly Guadalajara to Paris
Replies: 83
Views: 12727

Re: Aeromexico could fly Guadalajara to Paris

USA airlines fly more people to U.K. than France and Germany combined. International airlines fly more passengers to the USA from UK than from France, Germany and Ireland combined. I think most people assume that travel between Mexico and Spain is similar. Madrid attracts only 50% more passengers th...

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by PacoMartin
Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Allegiant Discussion Thread - 2019
Replies: 349
Views: 57780

Re: Allegiant Discussion Thread - 2019

I sometimes peruse their Facebook page and I get a chuckle from how frequently I’ll see folks posting comments in vain on there to the effect of ‘Please please please fly from [insert some mega metro area] to [insert some mega metro area]’. I guess a lot of people really don’t understand their busi...

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by PacoMartin
Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Allegiant Discussion Thread - 2019
Replies: 349
Views: 57780

Re: Allegiant Discussion Thread - 2019

ABE is two miles from me, and Allegiant plans to begin a two aircraft base operations at ABE on February 12, 2020. It will be the airline's 18th aircraft base in the country. The base means two planes will stay at ABE overnight, so flights can leave earlier and arrive later, creating more options fo...

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by PacoMartin
Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Allegiant Discussion Thread - 2019
Replies: 349
Views: 57780

Re: Allegiant Discussion Thread - 2019

SY and F9 offer connections at multiple airports. Then I am not sure what is their secret to their very high operational margin. First I thought it was the old jets, but they sold all them and now their fleet age is about the same as other airlines (2 years older than Southwest). Then I thought it ...

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by PacoMartin
Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aeromexico could fly Guadalajara to Paris
Replies: 83
Views: 12727

Re: Aeromexico could fly Guadalajara to Paris

I've heard its very gay, I want to go Hotel San Francisco Plaza is a 3-star hotel (usually about $30 /night) which is within 500 yards of the gay clubs, but is a little nicer than the other 1-2 star hotels around the gay district. Downtown is pretty gay at night, but there is still some good music ...

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by PacoMartin
Sat Nov 09, 2019 1:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Allegiant Discussion Thread - 2019
Replies: 349
Views: 57780

Re: Allegiant Discussion Thread - 2019

Also, SY do formally offer connections and will sell them to you. I meant USA, but I guess you answered the question. I don't know if Sun Country, Hawaiian , and Frontier offer connections at only a single airport. It always seemed like a clever business idea. Of course the airline can never grow b...

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by PacoMartin
Sat Nov 09, 2019 1:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Allegiant Discussion Thread - 2019
Replies: 349
Views: 57780

Re: Allegiant Discussion Thread - 2019

Is allegiant the only airline that formally has no connecting flights? It seems that other airlines like sun country, Hawaiian airlines (except for mainland or asia to interisland) don't have connections, but to the best of my knowledge Allegiant is the only one that states up front that they don't ...

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by PacoMartin
Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Macau considers widebodies for service to US and Europe
Replies: 45
Views: 6196

Re: Air Macau considers widebodies for service to US and Europe

There is such a huge interest in Las Vegas by Hawaiian residents (2762 miles) that you wonder if some would fly to MFM (5,592 miles) for a change of pace. Hawaiian Airlines does not fly further than 5,095 miles (to Boston).

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by PacoMartin
Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Macau considers widebodies for service to US and Europe
Replies: 45
Views: 6196

Re: Air Macau considers widebodies for service to US and Europe

Unless these things are hugely subsidized, it's tough to envision intercon flights from MFM having a chance at profitability. Right now Air Macau gets 80% of its passengers from KHH (433 miles) and TPE (525 miles) on Taiwan. They are going to lose exclusive rights to fly to these destinations in on...

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by PacoMartin
Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: San Diego Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 1207
Views: 193217

Re: San Diego Aviation Thread - 2019

Except that HA's fares, even on the 330 are not generally the cheapest offered. HA's non-stop SAN-HNL flight is generally $50 to $100 more expensive than other carriers, so I don't know how they can charge even higher fares on a 321. If I am stuck on a single aisle plane, I might as well try Alaska...

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by PacoMartin
Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus and Boeing 2019 Orders
Replies: 486
Views: 137539

Re: Airbus And Boeing 2019 Orders

So the NEO is now outselling the MAX but about 43%. Incredible year for the NEO and I don't attribute many of the sales to the MAX issues. I think that point is very important. when you look through the customers of the 24 orders nobody stands out as someone who was burned by the MAX. American airl...

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by PacoMartin
Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air France Studies Stretched Airbus "A220-500"
Replies: 217
Views: 39613

Re: Air France Studies Stretched Airbus "A220-500"

I'm always perplexed by those who infer that Airbus must choose between further investment in the 220 series or the 320 series. Why not do both? They are a too big to fail multinational that can draw on billions. The problem with that is Boeing is also a too big to fail multinational.An A220-500 wo...

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by PacoMartin
Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus and Boeing 2019 Orders
Replies: 486
Views: 137539

Re: Airbus And Boeing 2019 Orders

Please note, do not overestimate the A321 Neo family orders, we now see here. When this gap will have been filled, it is possible we will see again a 50 to 50 distribution for the A320 and A321 Neo orders. The A321neo outsold the A320neo by 20 jets in 2016, and the A320ceo outsold the A321ceo by a ...

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by PacoMartin
Fri Nov 08, 2019 1:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus and Boeing 2019 Orders
Replies: 486
Views: 137539

Re: Airbus And Boeing 2019 Orders

A320-200 orders AIR TANZANIA 11-Oct 2 AIR AUSTRAL 14-Oct 3 A320-neo orders TIGERAIR TAIWAN 22-Oct 7 INDIGO 31-Oct 87 AVIATION CAPITAL GROUP 31-Oct 3 A321-neo orders AIRASIA X MALAYSIA 9-Oct 30 UNDISCLOSED 10-Oct 2 CHINA AIRLINES 15-Oct 11 UNDISCLOSED 22-Oct 13 JETSMART 30-Oct 12 WIZZ AIR HUNGARY 30-...

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by PacoMartin
Fri Nov 08, 2019 4:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air France Studies Stretched Airbus "A220-500"
Replies: 217
Views: 39613

Re: Air France Studies Stretched Airbus "A220-500"

Simple: more revenue/profit of the pie. A bit of cannibalization is not bad if end up with a bigger portion of the pie. If the pie is 100 and the current standing is A320 50% and 737 50%. And after the introduction of A225 you have A320 35%, 737 40% and A225 25% you end up with an improvement of 10...

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by PacoMartin
Thu Nov 07, 2019 8:16 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air France Studies Stretched Airbus "A220-500"
Replies: 217
Views: 39613

Re: Air France Studies Stretched Airbus "A220-500"

That's gonna kill Boeing if Airbus goes through with a -500 stretch. We used to say that you can never beat a paper tiger. You have a concept airplane and you are talking about it destroying a real airplane. It is pretty obvious that the A321neo will be a gold mine for more than a decade. It will e...

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by PacoMartin
Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: WOW Air to relaunch as MOM
Replies: 207
Views: 39521

Re: WOW Air to relaunch as PLAY

I wonder if Dublin will be the best place to base a future low cost airline built around the A321XLR? Flights on an A321XLR should be able to reach SFO, if not LAX and Dublin has pre-clearance facility KEF-SFO/LAX 3,653 nm/3,748 nm DUB-SFO/LAX 4,430 nm/4,502 nm DUB-SEA 3,945 nm It seems like Stanste...

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by PacoMartin
Wed Nov 06, 2019 6:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: San Diego Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 1207
Views: 193217

Re: San Diego Aviation Thread - 2019

The San Diego Regional Airport Authority plans to debut in January a fleet of free electric shuttles that will transport riders between the Old Town transit station and the airport. The estimated annual cost of $1.2 million will be borne by the Airport Authority.. The maximum passenger capacity for ...

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by PacoMartin
Wed Nov 06, 2019 8:01 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Constrained Runways
Replies: 45
Views: 8174

Re: Constrained Runways

San Diego International Airport at Lindbergh Field is rapidly approaching its maximum capacity for passengers and operations. Annual passenger capacity is 18.7 million to 25.6 million passengers. More than 17.4 million passengers enplaned in 2005. Based on projected growth rates in passenger servic...

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by PacoMartin
Wed Nov 06, 2019 2:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Constrained Runways
Replies: 45
Views: 8174

Re: Constrained Runways

This idea stinks of elitism. If you’re not in this group, you don’t deserve to fly (here). Small jets can be very elitist. They permit nonstops from San Diego to places like Monterey, Boise, Hayden CO (ski resort) and private jets fly from San Diego to the big island of Hawaii. I don't see a restri...

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by PacoMartin
Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Constrained Runways
Replies: 45
Views: 8174

Re: Constrained Runways

Aircraft capacity growth is an organic process when left alone. No doubt you are correct. As domestic traffic increases the average number of seats per jet will probably increase. Look at the extreme popularity of the MAX-8 vs the MAX-7 while the B737-700 had fairly high sales. Domestic pax 2002 55...

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by PacoMartin
Tue Nov 05, 2019 9:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why is AA at ORD so RJ heavy?
Replies: 70
Views: 12584

Re: Why is AA at ORD so RJ heavy?

Center of Population Indiana 1890-1940 Illinois 1950-1970 Missouri 1980-2010 Missouri Airports STL St. Louis MCI Kansas City SGF Springfield It is very unlikely for Skywest Airlines to start an independent operation to compete with Southwest. Moxy Airline may launch with a fleet comprised of Embraer...

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by PacoMartin
Tue Nov 05, 2019 7:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why is AA at ORD so RJ heavy?
Replies: 70
Views: 12584

Re: Why is AA at ORD so RJ heavy?

The airport category list is a bit misleading and a funky way of categorizing airports. They use the metric for grant apportionment. When MKE, CVG, CLE and STL collapsed as hubs, they fell in ranking. MKE and CLE were always at the top of medium hubs, but STL and CVG were large hub. All four are re...

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by PacoMartin
Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why is AA at ORD so RJ heavy?
Replies: 70
Views: 12584

Re: Why is AA at ORD so RJ heavy?

Surely MKE should be on that list as well Distance from the population center to each airport (MEDIUM size airports) STL 143 miles MCI 173 miles OMA 319 miles BNA 335 miles MKE 446 miles https://blog.globalair.com/image.axd?picture=2016%2F9%2Fairportcategories.jpg FAA classifies 30 airports as LARG...

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