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by PacoMartin
Tue Oct 29, 2019 10:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air New Zealand dropping LHR launch NYC
Replies: 261
Views: 59536

Re: Air New Zealand dropping LHR launch NYC

I thought this discussion deserved it's own thread, but I was overruled. Each airline reports operational revenue in at least 8 categories Transport Revenues Scheduled Passenger Mail Property Freight Property Passenger Baggage Fees Charter Passenger Reservation Cancellation Fees Miscellaneous Operat...

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by PacoMartin
Tue Oct 29, 2019 9:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing NMA in doubt as customers push for all new 737MAX and 757 replacement
Replies: 1049
Views: 154506

Re: Boeing NMA in doubt as customers push for all new 737MAX and 757 replacement

I, for one, have never believed in the tight 7w (oval/ovoid or standard) because there is an inherent and fundamental disadvantage in terms of fuselage weight per passenger. Any weight saving measure that can be used to save weight from the 7w solution can be used on a 3-3 to similar effect. In my ...

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by PacoMartin
Tue Oct 29, 2019 5:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air New Zealand dropping LHR launch NYC
Replies: 261
Views: 59536

Re: Air New Zealand dropping LHR launch NYC

You were cautioned in a different thread last week not to read too much into these numbers, and Lightsaber provided a comprehensive explanation about why you shouldn't. That you are still parroting this a week later in a different thread therefore makes me think that you are deliberately spreading ...

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by PacoMartin
Tue Oct 29, 2019 5:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why does Delta have such a weak intl presence?
Replies: 35
Views: 6820

Re: Why does Delta have such a weak intl presence?

Compared to UA and AA, which fly or will fly to numerous exotic destinations, Delta seems to have a lack of international presence outside of their partner hubs. They have skipped out on serving cities like HKG, DEL, TPE, and AKL, in favor of KLM, Korean, and Virgin metal. Why is it that AA and UA ...

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by PacoMartin
Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - October 2019
Replies: 417
Views: 101002

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - October 2019

The real thing always looks worse than the concepts. But yes, its suppose to be a LCC focused airport. Look to Mel T4 for a functional but not very flashy design. They say that Western Sydney would start out at around 10 million passengers. Which would put it equivalent to San Antonio Airport in th...

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by PacoMartin
Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air New Zealand dropping LHR launch NYC
Replies: 261
Views: 59536

Re: Air New Zealand dropping LHR launch NYC

Those AA 2018 losses... they seem too big for their limited trans-pacific operations. I could believe -$40M though Their losses are indeed that big. American Airlines had $2,264,081,000 ($2.26 billion) in operating revenue in transPacific in 2018, and they did indeed have net income of NEGATIVE $40...

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by PacoMartin
Mon Oct 28, 2019 3:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air New Zealand dropping LHR launch NYC
Replies: 261
Views: 59536

Re: Air New Zealand dropping LHR launch NYC

It is pretty sad. But, with QF SYD-LHR coming, ME3 one stop price war and premium Airlines like SQ taking the traffic away, it's only logical to do so. I think the only European airline that comes to Oceania is British Airways, and they only fly to Sydney (via Singapore) and not to Melbourne. The U...

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by PacoMartin
Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: San Diego Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 1207
Views: 195838

Re: San Diego Aviation Thread - 2019

Logically it would make more sense to downgrade the PHX Hawaiian Airlines jet from an A330 to an A321neo instead of SAN A330 to an A321neo. Actually I should have read the 3rd quarter report first. They announced service for three new routes with its A321neo fleet: ◦ Four-times-weekly service betwe...

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by PacoMartin
Mon Oct 28, 2019 3:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA Dream Flight is on its way.
Replies: 5
Views: 3641

Re: BA Dream Flight is on its way.

AC853 wrote:
This is great for kids. Is there a reason why the aircraft only flew at 28,000 feet?


It is about 1 hour into it's return flight and is at 40,000 feet. Presumably, it will return for the children in a few days.

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by PacoMartin
Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:01 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: San Diego Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 1207
Views: 195838

Re: San Diego Aviation Thread - 2019

As a continuation of the post above in April 2019 American Airlines flew 105 round trip flights from PHX to the Hawaiian Islands with an average load factor of 87.5% and an average of 188.5 seats per flight (104 B752s and one A330-300). American Airlines Inc. PHX- HNL 37 85.5% 191 seats OGG 34 89.0%...

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by PacoMartin
Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: San Diego Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 1207
Views: 195838

Re: San Diego Aviation Thread - 2019

I will be watching to see if/what HA might do further in 2020 to change their op's in SAN... I have not yet looked for other similar announcements from other mainland cities so I don't know if this is just affecting SAN or if there are other adjustments coming... April BTS data indicates that the S...

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by PacoMartin
Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:40 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Why did UA retire the ex-CO 767-200ER?
Replies: 35
Views: 9178

Re: Why did UA retire the ex-CO 767-200ER?

May be mistaken, but I don't ever recall 763ERs in US' possession, and PI would've been long-gone before AA was in the picture. My typo. It was from a list of 762ERs. I was trying to explain how Boeing database seems to work. Piedmont is not on their list of customers having been replaced with USAi...

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by PacoMartin
Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The first Airbus A320 to break the 30-year in service mark
Replies: 206
Views: 79531

Re: A first Airbus A320 broke through the 30-year into service mark

It may not be surprising if DL's current oldest A320s retire due to rising maintenance costs rather than cycles/hours. And even that could still be years from now. I was under the impression that aircraft that were otherwise performing efficiently were typically retired when they were scheduled for...

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by PacoMartin
Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The first Airbus A320 to break the 30-year in service mark
Replies: 206
Views: 79531

Re: The first Airbus A320 to break the 30-year in service mark

[It's the technology of these types - not their durability I was commenting about. Modern aircraft started in 1988. Wouldn't you say that "Modern Aircraft" began with the classic B737-300) in 1984? Table of deliveries for the entire family Table excludes original B737-100/200/200C (1144 d...

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by PacoMartin
Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:20 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Why did UA retire the ex-CO 767-200ER?
Replies: 35
Views: 9178

Re: Why did UA retire the ex-CO 767-200ER?

I forgot about American. Why is Piedmont not showing up on your list? Boeing had a downloadable database containing 29,025 orders and 23,320 deliveries as of end of Sep 2019 (includes M D jets). When the airlines are merged they normally use the name of the purchasing airline. So the Continental pu...

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by PacoMartin
Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:00 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Why did UA retire the ex-CO 767-200ER?
Replies: 35
Views: 9178

Re: Why did UA retire the ex-CO 767-200ER?

[Piedmont received six beginning with their CLT-LGW launch in June 1987. I believe three were also delivered to US that were ordered by Piedmont as US had a total of 12. Were there any other passenger airlines besides PI, US, CO, and UA who flew the 767-200ER? Yes there were. AC for example had bot...

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by PacoMartin
Sat Oct 26, 2019 3:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: San Diego Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 1207
Views: 195838

Re: San Diego Aviation Thread - 2019

My educated guess (such as it is) is that Hawaiian is finding its international routes quite profitable, and every A330 available needs to be pressed into that service. The A321 captures enough of the yields from SAN, and perhaps expansion down the line will occur. Hawaiian is reporting losses on i...

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by PacoMartin
Sat Oct 26, 2019 6:05 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Why did UA retire the ex-CO 767-200ER?
Replies: 35
Views: 9178

Re: Why did UA retire the ex-CO 767-200ER?

There are only about 63 B767-200s active around the world, and I believe most if not all are cargo or military jets today. The first B767-200ER was delivered on 26. Mar. 1984 but it was not a particularly long lasting jet. US Airways bought three in 1991-1993, but the final 10 bought by continental...

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by PacoMartin
Sat Oct 26, 2019 5:53 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Why did UA retire the ex-CO 767-200ER?
Replies: 35
Views: 9178

Re: Why did UA retire the ex-CO 767-200ER?

There are only about 63 B767-200s active around the world, and I believe most if not all are cargo or military jets today.

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by PacoMartin
Sat Oct 26, 2019 5:23 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Why did UA retire the ex-CO 767-200ER?
Replies: 35
Views: 9178

Re: Why did UA retire the ex-CO 767-200ER?

United Airlines retired its last 10 B767-200s that they inherited from Continental on 1 October 2010 from its fleet on May 28, 2013 . It took exactly 31 months to retire all ten but United would have retired the type sooner had it not been for the grounding of its B787-8 fleet. United was the launch...

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by PacoMartin
Sat Oct 26, 2019 3:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Q3 2019 US Carrier Financial Performance
Replies: 15
Views: 3366

Re: Q3 2019 US Carrier Financial Performance

Delta consistently makes a profit in all four markets every quarter for last 3.5 years Year Q DOMESTIC LATIN ATLANTIC PACIFIC TOTAL 2019 2 $872,896 $104,680 $361,534 $68,068 $1,407,178 2019 1 $422,508 $79,625 $180,431 $65,169 $747,733 2018 4 $648,210 $66,141 $231,001 $62,983 $1,008,335 2018 3 $620,4...

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by PacoMartin
Sat Oct 26, 2019 2:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Q3 2019 US Carrier Financial Performance
Replies: 15
Views: 3366

Re: Q3 2019 US Carrier Financial Performance

From the BTS data it has pretty much the Pacific which has been driving profits down for AA for past three years. American Airlines (Net Income) from BTS data Year Q DOMESTIC LATIN Am. ATLANTIC PACIFIC TOTAL 2019 2 $472,610 $244,123 +$90,522 -$93,341 $713,914 2019 1 $167,005 $231,467 -$89,519 -$79,0...

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by PacoMartin
Fri Oct 25, 2019 10:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Did accidents affect 757 sales?
Replies: 54
Views: 15873

Re: Did accidents affect 757 sales?

One of the ways I like to think about a model is to calculate the Operating empty weight per seat. If I am paying for a lot more weight per seat, what benefits am I getting? The usual answer is range. but sometimes American Airlines uses their A330 on short ranges like PHL to CLT (< 500 miles), so i...

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by PacoMartin
Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Did accidents affect 757 sales?
Replies: 54
Views: 15873

Re: Did accidents affect 757 sales?

Boeing had to do MAX because if they did not, they were going to lose thousands of orders and dozens, if not scores, of customers. Orders and customers they would not win back when the NSA was ready years later. When the first A320 was delivered on 28 March 1988 Boeing still had 6 B737-200 unfilled...

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by PacoMartin
Fri Oct 25, 2019 6:55 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Did accidents affect 757 sales?
Replies: 54
Views: 15873

Re: Did accidents affect 757 sales?

The 757 had out of date engines with a bypass ratio of 4.4:1 on the RB211's. In the 90's that was the lowest bypass ratio of any western airliner. It was overdue for a NEO. The 737NG had engines were a full generation ahead. If we look at the 737 it got new generation engines every 15 years. The cl...

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by PacoMartin
Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why doesnt Air New Zealand fly to New York?
Replies: 64
Views: 13292

Re: Why doesnt Air New Zealand fly to New York?

Miles from AKL nonstop great circle range to United Airlines hubs 4,389 HNL 6,504 LAX 6,516 SFO 7,352 DEN - via United Connection 7,415 IAH 8,184 ORD 8,603 IAD - via United Connection 8,810 EWR - via United Connection NZ reported in May that they are interested in New York flights. It looks like AN...

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by PacoMartin
Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air New Zealand dropping LHR launch NYC
Replies: 261
Views: 59536

Re: Air New Zealand dropping LHR launch NYC

There is 12 code share routes to get to London including the list above and also with Air Canada through YVR, All the ones with United, Eva Air through TPE and soon from 23 November with Asiana through ICN. They could even offer a route via EZE with AR to LHR. Looking at the timetable on the ANZ we...

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by PacoMartin
Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air New Zealand dropping LHR launch NYC
Replies: 261
Views: 59536

Re: Air New Zealand dropping LHR launch NYC

[It's not as if NZ has abandoned Europe or the UK - just that it won't serve them on its own metal. United flies from EWR to LHR 4-5 times per day, so presumably, there will be a codeshare that will permit ANZ passengers to continue on to LHR. Star Alliance Partners that fly into Auckland Air Canad...

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by PacoMartin
Thu Oct 24, 2019 10:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The first Airbus A320 to break the 30-year in service mark
Replies: 206
Views: 79531

Re: A first Airbus A320 broke through the 30-year into service mark

Delta's oldest A320 will reach 30 years on 1 Aug 2020 (Manufacturer Serial Number (MSN) 118) As of 02/16/2018(mm/dd/yyyy) Total Time (hours)82,835 Total Cycles 37,591 As of 04/27/2017(mm/dd/yyyy) Total Time (hours)80,865 Total Cycles 36,551 As of 03/04/2016(mm/dd/yyyy) Total Time (hours)77,466 Total...

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by PacoMartin
Thu Oct 24, 2019 6:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Did accidents affect 757 sales?
Replies: 54
Views: 15873

Re: Did accidents affect 757 sales?

B753 orders 12 09. Dec. 1996 Condor Flugdienst 1 16. Jun. 1997 Icelandair 1 31. May. 1998 Condor Flugdienst 2 31. Jul. 1998 Arkia Israeli Airlines 2 03. May. 2000 Thomas Cook Airlines 10 30. Jun. 2000 ATA Airlines, Inc. 9 02. Jan. 2001 United Airlines 16 16. Jan. 2001 Northwest Airlines 2 31. Dec. ...

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by PacoMartin
Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:21 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Did accidents affect 757 sales?
Replies: 54
Views: 15873

Re: Did accidents affect 757 sales?

Not yet another 757 thread. I hadn't seen one that discussed the extraordinary poor luck of having 3 hull losses in Latin America within 41 weeks with 418 fatalities and only 4 survivors. I realize that the jet design was not considered relevant in any of these accidents. Most accurately the CFM 56...

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by PacoMartin
Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:56 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Norwegian to start CDG - AUS in May 2020
Replies: 33
Views: 7972

Re: AUS Airport Big Announcement 10/24 10:00 A.M.

Austin to Honolulu is 3764 miles. Perhaps Hawaiian Airlines is going to use one of their A330s to fly to Austin on the off-chance that everyone in Austin doesn't want to vacation in Cancun. I would be surprised if it is something from their wish list: Asia: BJS, ICN, PVG, TYO Europe: DUB, CDG Spirit...

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by PacoMartin
Thu Oct 24, 2019 2:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Did accidents affect 757 sales?
Replies: 54
Views: 15873

Re: Did accidents affect 757 sales?

I read that flight AA965 could have climb cleared the mountain with room to spare had the pilots remembered to retract the spoilers. I've read that speedbrakes are purely drag devices while spoilers simultaneously increase drag and reduce lift. Is this author using the wrong term? When the pilots r...

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by PacoMartin
Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Did accidents affect 757 sales?
Replies: 54
Views: 15873

Re: Over 400 dead in 41 weeks

If memory serves, those crashes were not put down to flaws in the aircraft itself, particularly when compared with other aircraft series that had been embroiled in design-related issues. I posed a question, not a hypothesis. I reviewed the accident reports before I posted this question, and none of...

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by PacoMartin
Wed Oct 23, 2019 11:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AS MAX impact and the NEO's future
Replies: 261
Views: 47016

Re: AS MAX impact and the NEO's future

I get the reason for having an all 737 or all 320 fleet, but when difficulties arise, maybe having some diversity in the fleet is actually a good thing. The flip side to that strategy is that I am sure that Alaska Airlines could get a good deal on extra MAXs at present. Likewise they could probably...

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by PacoMartin
Wed Oct 23, 2019 9:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: NK Announces Upcoming Order of 100 Airbus A320neo Family Aircraft plus Purchase Options for a further 50
Replies: 217
Views: 57618

Re: Spirit Airlines to announce major Airbus order

321XLR will allow Spirit to penetrate deeper into South America from FLL. Most likely there will be some of that in the mix. Latin America has been very good to most of the airlines in the USA with some record profits. There would be no reason for Spirit to be the first USA LCC to strt ordering wid...

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by PacoMartin
Wed Oct 23, 2019 2:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Did accidents affect 757 sales?
Replies: 54
Views: 15873

Re: Did accidents affect 757 sales?

Classic confusion of correlation vs. causality. That record established beyond doubt that 757s were safe. I am not talking about rational behavior . Sales are often unrelated to reality. There was absolutely no connection between the accidents and the B752 itself, it was just a statistical anomoly ...

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by PacoMartin
Wed Oct 23, 2019 1:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Did accidents affect 757 sales?
Replies: 54
Views: 15873

Did accidents affect 757 sales?

Boeing 757-200 orders by year 1978 38 1980 64 1981 3 1982 2 1983 26 1984 2 1985 25 1986 12 1987 45 1988 145 1989 155 1990 70 1991 50 1992 35 1993 23 1994 12 1995 8 1996 42 ------------- 418 dead in 41 weeks 1997 43 1998 47 1999 18 2000 31 2001 10 2003 7 A total of 418 fatalities occurred in a 41 wee...

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by PacoMartin
Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 50 mill who gets there first MCO or MIA
Replies: 34
Views: 6295

Re: 50 mill who gets there first MCO or MIA

How about Orlando/Tampa and Miami/Fort Lauderdale build a airport together like dfw/sea? The FAA told San Antonio and Austin they should build a shared airport halfway between the cities. The cities replied NO WAY. Austin built a new airport that opened on May 23, 1999 only 66 air miles from SAT. I...

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by PacoMartin
Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:55 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 50 mill who gets there first MCO or MIA
Replies: 34
Views: 6295

Re: 50 mill who gets there first MCO or MIA

As for MCO, it is such a physically-large airport with plenty more room for expansion. I imagine they will hit the 50 million number in the next decade. Next decade. I would think by next year. For 2018 MCO was 10% larger than MIA and growing 5x faster. That doesn't even sound like a contest as to ...

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by PacoMartin
Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Mexico city's new airport to be improved Santa Lucía Airport
Replies: 143
Views: 38511

Re: Updated: Mexico city's new airport to be improved Santa Lucía Airport

Colombia foresees traffic growing to over 100 million passengers annually by 2030, says Juan Carlos Salazar, the director of Colombia's civil aviation authority Aerocivil. While in general it is a long flight from Asia to Latin America, Bogota is somewhat better positioned than Sao Paulo when the ne...

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by PacoMartin
Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:55 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Mexico city's new airport to be improved Santa Lucía Airport
Replies: 143
Views: 38511

Re: Updated: Mexico city's new airport to be improved Santa Lucía Airport

You omitted Avianca to Madrid. You are correct. I was trying to emphasize that while BOGOTA is midway in size between FLL Fort Lauderdale and DTW Detroit, but it has excellent nonstops to Europe and Northern America Mexico City Airport (MEX) in Mexico, Passengers 47,700,547 (2018) El Dorado Airport...

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by PacoMartin
Sun Oct 20, 2019 6:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Average Age of Delta fleet is now younger than United
Replies: 83
Views: 21056

Re: Average Age of Delta fleet is now younger than United

It's somewhat difficult to correlate age to flights hours and cycles because the FAA database only records the hours/cycles when there is an incident. Looking at the nine B752 from United that had incidents in 2019 you get the following table where the maximum number of hours recorded is 99,242 and ...

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by PacoMartin
Sun Oct 20, 2019 2:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Average Age of Delta fleet is now younger than United
Replies: 83
Views: 21056

Re: Average Age of Delta fleet is now younger than United

Source: https://av-info.faa.gov/sdrx/Query.aspx Simply put in the registration number of any US registered aircraft, without the N. So on 02/14/2018 (N309US ) A320-211 MSN #118 has 82,835 hours and 37,591 cycles Delta's oldest AIRBUS 09/04/2017 (N401UA ) A320-232 MSN #135 has 75,744 hours and 28,79...

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by PacoMartin
Sun Oct 20, 2019 12:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United posts Q3 2019 results
Replies: 79
Views: 20473

Re: United posts Q3 2019 results

I am confused. Are you saying Delta made the most money (profit) in the 2nd quarter across the Pacific? If so, totally shocked. That is exactly what the numbers state. Collectively all the US carriers (including cargo) have lost money in the Pacific every quarter for three years now. But Delta has ...

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by PacoMartin
Sun Oct 20, 2019 5:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United posts Q3 2019 results
Replies: 79
Views: 20473

Re: United posts Q3 2019 results

Thank you for posting the link that is great information thank you very much. Great information on this link looking at just basic data UA's Pacific net income peaked in 2012 ever since then there has been a steady decline from that 2012 high. From 2012 through 2018 UA's pacific net income fell but...

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by PacoMartin
Sun Oct 20, 2019 4:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Average Age of Delta fleet is now younger than United
Replies: 83
Views: 21056

Re: Average Age of Delta fleet is now younger than United

Point of Clarification United Airlines 789 total jets 15.60 years, 192 dual aisle jets 15.21 years on average, 597 single aisle jets 15.73 years on average Delta Airlines 915 total jets 15.10 years, 154 dual aisle jets 16.16 years on average, 761 single aisle jets 14.88 years on average American Ai...

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by PacoMartin
Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Mexico city's new airport to be improved Santa Lucía Airport
Replies: 143
Views: 38511

Re: Updated: Mexico city's new airport to be improved Santa Lucía Airport

I presume that BOG will someday pass MEX in size . The improvements to be completed by next year will permit 40 million passengers. Mexico City Airport (MEX) in Mexico, Passengers 47,700,547 (2018) El Dorado Airport in (BOG) Colombia, Passengers 32,716,468 (2018) São Paulo–Guarulhos International Ai...

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by PacoMartin
Sat Oct 19, 2019 5:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Airlines A350 update?
Replies: 131
Views: 41203

Re: United Airlines A350 update

https://www.airbus.com/newsroom/press-releases/en/2010/03/united-signs-firm-order-for-25-a350-xwb-aircraft.html Some reference tables might help UA Airbus orders 10 Mar 2010: Originally ordered 25 A350-900s for 2016 EIS. 20 Jun 2013: Order converted to 35 -1000s 06 Sep 2017: Order was converted to ...

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by PacoMartin
Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Mexico city's new airport to be improved Santa Lucía Airport
Replies: 143
Views: 38511

Re: Updated: Mexico city's new airport to be improved Santa Lucía Airport

AHHH of course Toluca... the Airport that fogs in all of the time. The book 'Bordering on Chaos' (1995..the book chronicled the period just before NAFTA and the eventual end of 6 decades of PRI dominance) had a discussion about the folly of that airport. 'Bordering on Chaos' by Andrés Oppenheimer, ...

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