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by FluidFlow
Tue Oct 27, 2020 9:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing CEO: NMA will "start with a clean sheet of paper again"
Replies: 1787
Views: 176857

Re: Boeing CEO: NMA will

The thing is, if they launch the 73X-752-753 replacement too early (within the next 2 years) a lot of 73X customers will drop out and defer to the new thing. Good for the new thing but this would hurt the 73X a lot and so the 737 program. As exciting a new aircraft would be, Boeing is not in the po...

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by FluidFlow
Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing CEO: NMA will "start with a clean sheet of paper again"
Replies: 1787
Views: 176857

Re: Boeing CEO: NMA will

I think the way forward for Boeing on the NMA is to not only create a new 757 replacement that allows the air frame to be 3-5% fundamentally more fuel efficient than the equivalent A32X ( not enough to justify the development of a new type) but to parallel the development of an aircraft that is sim...

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by FluidFlow
Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Vietjet Airbus A321 suffered 4.27g hard landing, visible damages found on fuselage and nosewheels
Replies: 27
Views: 8666

Re: Vietjet Airbus A321 suffered 4.27g hard landing, visible damages found on fuselage and nosewheels

Anybody know how this translates into vertical speed at touchdown / fpm? Gravity is 9.8m/s. Times that by 4.27 = 41.8m/s Times that by 60 = 2510.7m/min Converted to ft/min = ~8237ft/min Someone check my math, but that sound like an owie. Thats bot how acceleration works. The units are m/s^2. Landin...

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by FluidFlow
Tue Oct 20, 2020 6:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q4 2020
Replies: 293
Views: 41831

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q4 2020

Just a reminder, going bankrupt and getting bailed out are not mutually exclusive. Ask GM stockholders some years back. I'm quite aware of that. That does not mean it shutdowns either. Chapter 11 for Boeing would happen way before Chapter 7. The airplane company will survive. It's just a question i...

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by FluidFlow
Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q4 2020
Replies: 293
Views: 41831

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q4 2020

CA was task focused on working with ATC and routing around tstorms, he wasn't monitoring the FO till it was too late. On the other hand, on AF447 the PNF was actively engaged in trying to counter the PF and had no indication that his input was being ignored. Two very different situations. I think i...

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by FluidFlow
Fri Oct 16, 2020 7:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q4 2020
Replies: 293
Views: 41831

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q4 2020

No the A330 wasn't grounded but it and the A320 still have the Gemini Program/Atari joysticks with no feedback and not being linked that definitely contributed to that crash and that issue still hasn't been fixed. Yet the 767 Captain near Houston failed to act promptly when his co-pilot pushed the ...

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by FluidFlow
Fri Oct 16, 2020 7:30 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How to prevent monopolies/ duopolies among equipment manufacturers?
Replies: 21
Views: 2563

Re: How to prevent monopolies/ duopolies among equipment manufacturers?

It is also important to keep a historical background and why we are where we are. After WWII there was only one large economy left that had a functioning aviation industry (USA). Europe had to be rebuilt and Russia(USSR) was not really functioning economy in the modern sense. While the USA could mov...

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by FluidFlow
Fri Oct 09, 2020 5:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q4 2020
Replies: 293
Views: 41831

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q4 2020

It seems clear there has to be a balance in automation and core skill maintenance. Every single Airbus fatality in its history has been officially blamed on incompetent piloting, nearly of them happening despite the benefits of the greatest cockpit technology ever devised. Then you have Asisana at ...

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by FluidFlow
Fri Oct 09, 2020 2:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q4 2020
Replies: 293
Views: 41831

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q4 2020

In hindsight Boeing should just have changed the MAX cockpit crew to three people. As the Lionair flight showed (the day before the crash), with three people in the cockpit the MAX is perfectly safe even when stuff breaks. So instead of this long saga, just make the MAX a three man cockpit and that...

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by FluidFlow
Fri Oct 09, 2020 12:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread - 2020
Replies: 122
Views: 37653

Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

EASA has certified the A330-900 at 251T MTOW. Other improvements also: "Airbus made weight-neutral structural reinforcements and landing gear adaptations to the A330-900. Airbus also notes they’ve made modifications to the nose and main landing gear of the A330-900. This will extend the time-b...

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by FluidFlow
Fri Oct 09, 2020 11:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread - 2020
Replies: 122
Views: 37653

Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

EASA has certified the A330-900 at 251T MTOW. Other improvements also: "Airbus made weight-neutral structural reinforcements and landing gear adaptations to the A330-900. Airbus also notes they’ve made modifications to the nose and main landing gear of the A330-900. This will extend the time-b...

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by FluidFlow
Fri Oct 09, 2020 8:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q4 2020
Replies: 293
Views: 41831

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q4 2020

In hindsight Boeing should just have changed the MAX cockpit crew to three people. As the Lionair flight showed (the day before the crash), with three people in the cockpit the MAX is perfectly safe even when stuff breaks. So instead of this long saga, just make the MAX a three man cockpit and thats...

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by FluidFlow
Fri Oct 09, 2020 8:39 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing releases new CMO (Current market outlook)
Replies: 61
Views: 7730

Re: Boeing releases new CMO (Current market outlook)

The question this leaves me with is, how is Boeing going to respond to its own outlook? Boeing's current strength is in widebody aircraft, which is not where it's projecting demand. Return to service of the 737Max will drive delivery of I expect at least several hundred Max's next year. That all po...

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by FluidFlow
Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:21 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The case for more aircraft production cuts/playing chicken
Replies: 325
Views: 34191

Re: The case for more aircraft production cuts/playing chicken

The absolutely ridiculous predictions like never returning to 2019 air travel levels, especially for business travel are just absurd and laughable. Business travel may never return to the 2019 percentage of air travel, but it will surely surpass the absolute 2019 levels, likely with 5 years. Comple...

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by FluidFlow
Tue Oct 06, 2020 6:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A220-100 ACJ long range business jet announced by Airbus
Replies: 55
Views: 11423

Re: A220-100 ACJ long range business jet announced by Airbus

I do see the ACJ220 as being an attractive alternative to BBJ business jets and maybe snipe some Gulfstream and Bombardier customers if they can get the price down to near whatever the top of the line Gulfstream or Bombardier Global is. It should also have good short field performance, so that may ...

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by FluidFlow
Sun Oct 04, 2020 10:25 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q4 2020
Replies: 293
Views: 41831

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q4 2020

With all the changes in training and procedures needed to be able to fly the MAX, can pilots still swap between NG and MAX or will they need difference training all the time?

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by FluidFlow
Wed Sep 30, 2020 4:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Boeing to Consolidate 787 Production in South Carolina
Replies: 320
Views: 53613

Re: Boeing Considers Closing 787 Production in WA

Yes. I believe that whatever the new plane will be it will be built at Everett for sure. And maybe that’s part of what this move is going to be focusing on. Preparing Everett for whatever Boeing decides to launch in the next 10 years. The problem is, the experienced staff is long gone when Boeing h...

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by FluidFlow
Wed Sep 30, 2020 1:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Boeing to Consolidate 787 Production in South Carolina
Replies: 320
Views: 53613

Re: Boeing Considers Closing 787 Production in WA

Am I the only one who thinks that in this current market that’s the only decision that makes sense? No, you're not, but I think most of us don't want it to make sense. I do think there is some sense in keeping it in Washington based on the established workforce and proximity to engineering, but it'...

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by FluidFlow
Wed Sep 30, 2020 5:56 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Swiss Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 273
Views: 45531

Re: Swiss Aviation Thread - 2020

Whereas I haven't heard of the 330's not coming back, personally I do see this type as the first ones out. The 343's have similar capacity and longer range. With fuelprices being low, the 340's aren't bad at all. The 330's are range-restricted and in LX-cofig noseheavy making them difficult to trim...

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by FluidFlow
Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:21 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Swiss Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 273
Views: 45531

Re: Swiss Aviation Thread - 2020

In general, as soon as you are more west than Neuchatel, Fribourg and Brig you do not want to connect through Zürich main station and take the flight from GVA to ZRH. But I guess there will be flights even post Covid but probably down to 3 or 4 a day. Maybe even 2 would be enough, one in the morning...

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by FluidFlow
Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q3 2020
Replies: 716
Views: 114172

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q3 2020

Turning to Boeing’s next development, Ky said EASA would examine the 400-seat 777X development “much more closely” than it would have done if the MAX grounding had not happened and pay particularly close attention to flight control systems. Which could lead to a prolonged certification campaign her...

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by FluidFlow
Fri Sep 25, 2020 1:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q3 2020
Replies: 716
Views: 114172

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q3 2020

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-boeing-737max-easa-idUSKCN26G1H8 If the EASA is happy with it then I’m happy with it. Bye to that public commentary From the article: Ky said Boeing had agreed to install the computerised third-sensor system on the next version of the plane, the 230-seat 737 MAX 1...

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by FluidFlow
Fri Sep 25, 2020 8:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa Group Fleet Thread - 2020
Replies: 662
Views: 60698

Re: Lufthansa Group Fleet Thread - 2020

I think WK will keep their A343s so you will be able to fly that type for a few more years from ZRH. Not right now but if holiday travel returns so will the A343.

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by FluidFlow
Thu Sep 24, 2020 3:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The case for more aircraft production cuts/playing chicken
Replies: 325
Views: 34191

Re: The case for more aircraft production cuts/playing chicken

Directly from The Times in UK today. Not sure if this is just bluster but according to Guillaume Faury the are not playing chicken. Can’t see his doomsday scenario happening but pretty safe to say the signs point to minimal production across the board. Unfortunately that is a paywall site for me at...

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by FluidFlow
Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q3 2020
Replies: 716
Views: 114172

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q3 2020

Todays 737 is just the result of a really bad path Boeing and the FAA went on together over the years. So many safety features are now mandatory for new aircraft and the 737 has none of them. Just to name a few of them: Outdated crew alerting system, outdated over wing emergency exits that are only...

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by FluidFlow
Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q3 2020
Replies: 716
Views: 114172

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q3 2020

Todays 737 is just the result of a really bad path Boeing and the FAA went on together over the years. So many safety features are now mandatory for new aircraft and the 737 has none of them. Just to name a few of them: Outdated crew alerting system, outdated over wing emergency exits that are only ...

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by FluidFlow
Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:22 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The case for more aircraft production cuts/playing chicken
Replies: 325
Views: 34191

Re: The case for more aircraft production cuts/playing chicken

One has to wonder which production line makes profit at what rate of production. In theory both manufacturers have to cut down to the point where there is still a small profit possible. How many A320 have to be produced to make money? 20 a month? 30 a month? For the WB it is a bit simpler. The 767 r...

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by FluidFlow
Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Airbus unveils three hydrogen concepts
Replies: 142
Views: 12484

Re: Updated: Airbus unveils three hydrogen concepts

What an utter non-sense. Who likes pollution? But that doesn't automatically make solar / wind power feasible or a good idea. For aircraft: forget technological breakthroughs solving everything, we haven't seen them over the last 60 years, despite 100's of billions in R&D. We have to give up bl...

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by FluidFlow
Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is DL taking delivery of A350’s from NRT to avoid tariffs?
Replies: 207
Views: 30994

Re: Is DL taking delivery of A350’s from NRT to avoid tariffs?

The EU has an FTA with Japan so importing the aircraft into Japan will be tax free. So if it will be registered in Japan and then transfered to the USA it maybe will count as an import from Japan. How long will it have to be sitting in Japan before it can be imported as a Japanese aircraft? Under no...

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by FluidFlow
Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The case for more aircraft production cuts/playing chicken
Replies: 325
Views: 34191

Re: The case for more aircraft production cuts/playing chicken

Just one thing about Airbus letting people go. Germany and France have so called "Kurzarbeit" schemes. They can last way into 2021 and will probably be even more extended by the governments. These schemes help keeping work force contracted but the government pays for the time the worker is...

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by FluidFlow
Tue Sep 15, 2020 2:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The case for more aircraft production cuts/playing chicken
Replies: 325
Views: 34191

Re: The case for more aircraft production cuts/playing chicken

My entire premise above, by the way, is partially biased against being willing to believe as many of the people I know in aerospace will be laid off as would be dictated by a 60% production rate cut. I work in that industry. I do not want the layoffs. Boeing and Airbus are running through cash too ...

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by FluidFlow
Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:24 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pt2: Southwest CEO Kelly, "If things don't improve, this cannot continue"
Replies: 114
Views: 13554

Re: Pt2: Southwest CEO Kelly, "If things don't improve, this cannot continue"

I am afraid that it might actually get worse. Not per se with Covid itself but temperatures are going to drop soon due to autumn and winter coming and we will have people with a cold, people with the flu, people with Covid and it will no help to create an environment without "fear". It wil...

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by FluidFlow
Fri Sep 11, 2020 9:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Reuters: Boeing considering 757-Plus and 767-X
Replies: 797
Views: 149955

Re: Reuters: Boeing considering 757-Plus and 767-X

But how will you build a 757neo? Boeing would need to invest around 10B to do this. It is not like there are modern production systems in place for 757 production. The A321 has it. So making a A321neo costs 2B to develop. And off to production you go little upgrade. Upgrading the 757 costs building ...

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by FluidFlow
Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest CEO Kelly - If Things Don’t Improve, This Just Can’t Continue”
Replies: 69
Views: 14047

Re: Southwest CEO Kelly - If Things Don’t Improve, This Just Can’t Continue”

I like how people think a vaccine is the solution. I am by no means against vaccination but the last time a vaccination got done in under 1 year it did not end well for a lot of people. How can any sane scientist be ok with it when there was no no long term study? Will we be the guinea pigs for it? ...

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by FluidFlow
Fri Sep 11, 2020 6:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Reuters: Boeing considering 757-Plus and 767-X
Replies: 797
Views: 149955

Re: Reuters: Boeing considering 757-Plus and 767-X

The only reason the heavy outdated 757 can somewhat compete with the A321 right now is because all of them are owned by the airlines. There are no more capital costs attached to it. If you make a "simple neo" version that you have to buy for 65 million USD it would have to have the same ec...

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by FluidFlow
Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian has its eyes on the 777X
Replies: 185
Views: 21446

Re: Ethiopian has its eyes on the 777X

You’ll be shocked that the pricing on the 777x comes in lower than the A35K. Don’t just look at the list prices. Like I said earlier and another user for airlines that buy aircrafts like 777s list price doesn’t mean anything How the price is paid between an airline and an OEM doesn't change the fac...

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by FluidFlow
Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JZA8615 TSB report released
Replies: 47
Views: 6549

Re: JZA8615 TSB report released

Too many people here are post bad about people taking their stuff, delaying evacuation, people should be banned, bla bla bla but I bet no one was ever in a true emergency situation. Around 20 years ago I was involved in a car crash with multiple cars. Luckily I only had a minor arm injury but some ...

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by FluidFlow
Mon Sep 07, 2020 8:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JZA8615 TSB report released
Replies: 47
Views: 6549

Re: JZA8615 TSB report released

Too many people here are post bad about people taking their stuff, delaying evacuation, people should be banned, bla bla bla but I bet no one was ever in a true emergency situation. Around 20 years ago I was involved in a car crash with multiple cars. Luckily I only had a minor arm injury but some p...

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by FluidFlow
Fri Sep 04, 2020 6:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian has its eyes on the 777X
Replies: 185
Views: 21446

Re: Ethiopian has its eyes on the 777X

Looking at the ACAPs, the 77W can take off from 6000ft (hypothetical new airport) on a 4km runway on ISA conditions it can take 310T payload. The A35K on the same hypothetical runway can take off with around 288T. So the 77W loses about 11.6% of its payload (rough calculations, 41T of 351T availabl...

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by FluidFlow
Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian has its eyes on the 777X
Replies: 185
Views: 21446

Re: Ethiopian has its eyes on the 777X

No modern twin is really fantastic at hot and high (for long-haul). I really wonder and would like to know what the difference in capability between the 777-family and the A350 is. Still none of them is really going to shine. It is a problem of twins in general because of the one engine out requirem...

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by FluidFlow
Wed Sep 02, 2020 8:14 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing seeks to further boost 788 Commonality to Boost Sales
Replies: 164
Views: 22554

Re: Boeing seeks to further boost 788 Commonality to Boost Sales

My opinion on this: Keeping some engineers employed and prepare for really low volume 787-8 production but still keeping the product in the portfolio. Commonality with the bigger brothers gives Boeing the ability to at least have the option to sell a 787-8 if necessary. If all the parts are the same...

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by FluidFlow
Sun Aug 30, 2020 3:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing Removes 8 x 787 From Service over Structural Issues
Replies: 179
Views: 38100

Re: Boeing Removes 8 x 787 From Service over Structural Issues

Now can such a fault be fixed or will Boeing have to deliver 8 787 for free as replacements. I have no Idea how to work with composites so I hope someone can enlighten me. The Air Current article has the following quote: a repair is "in the ballpark of two weeks" per plane There are 2 def...

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by FluidFlow
Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing Removes 8 x 787 From Service over Structural Issues
Replies: 179
Views: 38100

Re: Boeing Removes 8 x 787 From Service over Structural Issues

Now can such a fault be fixed or will Boeing have to deliver 8 787 for free as replacements. I have no Idea how to work with composites so I hope someone can enlighten me.

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by FluidFlow
Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Boeing to Consolidate 787 Production in South Carolina
Replies: 320
Views: 53613

Re: Boeing Considers Closing 787 Production in WA

What would happen if everything was consolidated to CHS, and then a hurricane wiped it out? :stirthepot: :duck: A hurricane at CHS is likely a better scenario than a massive earthquake in the Seattle area. The hurricane will not destroy everything. The building may be messed up. Equipment may be da...

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by FluidFlow
Mon Aug 24, 2020 3:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q3 2020
Replies: 716
Views: 114172

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q3 2020

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-08-24/boeing-boosts-737-max-safety-with-spacecraft-drone-technology?srnd=premium Very interesting yet very confusing article. All it says is Boeing "is preparing" such a system, but doesn't seem to say they are committed to it, as far as I can ...

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by FluidFlow
Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:08 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Boeing to Consolidate 787 Production in South Carolina
Replies: 320
Views: 53613

Re: Boeing Considers Closing 787 Production in WA

So short, in the US technical insolvency is no problem... Yes. Accounting terms have different meaning in different countries: -Cash flow is an important number in US accounting. It doesn't mean the same in other countries. For a long time I was wondering why Americans on a.net always spoke of cash...

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by FluidFlow
Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Boeing to Consolidate 787 Production in South Carolina
Replies: 320
Views: 53613

Re: Boeing Considers Closing 787 Production in WA

Even with the fact that Boeing owns Boeing the deferred costs, writing off 16bn means the company is reducing its value by 16bn (on paper). Is there a possibility for Boeing (or any company in the US) to go bankrupt because the dept is higher than the equity. Right now Boeing accounts for 16bn in s...

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by FluidFlow
Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Boeing to Consolidate 787 Production in South Carolina
Replies: 320
Views: 53613

Re: Boeing Considers Closing 787 Production in WA

Is there a possibility for Boeing (or any company in the US) to go bankrupt because the dept is higher than the equity Possible of course but if that was the standard a large swath of corporations would be bankrupt. What really matters is are you able to pay your debts and are the markets willing t...

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by FluidFlow
Sun Aug 23, 2020 5:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Boeing to Consolidate 787 Production in South Carolina
Replies: 320
Views: 53613

Re: Boeing Considers Closing 787 Production in WA

Even with the fact that Boeing owns Boeing the deferred costs, writing off 16bn means the company is reducing its value by 16bn (on paper). Is there a possibility for Boeing (or any company in the US) to go bankrupt because the dept is higher than the equity. Right now Boeing accounts for 16bn in sa...

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by FluidFlow
Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:35 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A330neo future bleak from COVID impact
Replies: 251
Views: 28387

Re: A330neo future bleak from COVID impact

Is this a general rule or something which happens to be true the last few years? Then why do airlines order many years in advance? I don't understand your comment, but it sounds as if there is a lot to it. Anybody can expand? Airlines order to replace existing aircraft and for predicted growth. The...

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