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by FluidFlow
Fri May 08, 2020 10:01 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic creditors aprove restructuring; (files for BK in US Court)
Replies: 1517
Views: 184591

Re: Virgin Atlantic needs government support?

To be fair VS just has nothing to really bring to the table at all. 1. Not a Network or unique destinations that are in anyway necessary for UK-Taxpayers. 2. No Assets or products that are important for the UK economy 3. No chance on repaying the loan and probably not even the money to pay the insta...

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by FluidFlow
Fri May 08, 2020 9:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus and Boeing 2020 Orders
Replies: 281
Views: 68096

Re: Airbus and Boeing 2020 Orders

9 new orders by Avolon on 01-Apr-2020: 8x A320 Neo and 1x A321 Neo. Not bad for Airbus in this bad times. Thus they cancel 75 MAX citing "the most challenging period in the history of commercial aviation." and the disruption of COVID-19 but order 9 A32XNEO? It's a strange world. As this i...

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by FluidFlow
Fri May 08, 2020 6:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Person killed by plane on runway at Austin
Replies: 97
Views: 25413

Re: Person killed by plane on runway at Austin

Fliplot wrote:
A human did that damage to a landing airceaft?! Wow!


Ever seen what happens to a car if you hit a deer (~100kg) at 100km/h. You can be lucky if the car is not totalled. So depending how fast the aircraft was, this is a relatively small damage or the nacelle is really sturdy.

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by FluidFlow
Thu May 07, 2020 12:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Sir Tim Clark "A380 is OVER"
Replies: 135
Views: 31146

Re: Sir Tim Clark "A380 is OVER"

That “gone” will at least be 10-15 years from now. Also AC (After COVID19) there are enough routes to fill an A380 profitably. Not for their current fleet, but that was already planned. A lot will depend on the price of oil - it will be gone quicker than 10 years if oil rises above USD 150 but it m...

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by FluidFlow
Wed May 06, 2020 1:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Sir Tim Clark "A380 is OVER"
Replies: 135
Views: 31146

Re: Sir Tim Clark "A380 is OVER"

Very interesting article....I do expect Emirates to accelerate the fleets retirement https://simpleflying.com/emirates-a380-is-over/ The correct and complete quote is: “We know the A380 is over, the 747 is over but the A350 and the 787 will always have a place. They may not be ordered soon, they ma...

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by FluidFlow
Tue May 05, 2020 6:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OFFICIAL: VS to exit LGW entirely, retire 747s immediately, lay off 3000 staff, consolidate UK branding
Replies: 21
Views: 3873

Re: OFFICIAL: VS to exit LGW entirely, retire 747s immediately, lay off 3000 staff, consolidate UK branding

I still can not understand the fleet structure of VS at all. Especially now when it is time to save as much money as possible. Either go all 787 or an A330/A350 mix. Both would reduce the pilot pool down to one and due to cuts, an A330/A350 pool with A330 wages would be cheapest. I think right now ...

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by FluidFlow
Tue May 05, 2020 6:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OFFICIAL: VS to exit LGW entirely, retire 747s immediately, lay off 3000 staff, consolidate UK branding
Replies: 21
Views: 3873

Re: OFFICIAL: VS to exit LGW entirely, retire 747s immediately, lay off 3000 staff, consolidate UK branding

Sad times. Hard to think of VS without the 747! I doubt anymore A350s make it onto the property for quite some time. Just run the 787/A330/A350s on property until this mess clears out. I still can not understand the fleet structure of VS at all. Especially now when it is time to save as much money ...

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by FluidFlow
Mon May 04, 2020 12:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Reuters: Boeing considering 757-Plus and 767-X
Replies: 794
Views: 146777

Re: Reuters: Boeing considering 757-Plus and 767-X

Lets look at the MOM gap. A321: 127m2 cabin 51t OEW 787-8: 232m2 cabin 119t OEW Half way between the two would be 179m2 cabin and 85t OEW. The 767-300ER is 188m2 and 90t OEW and is just over the halfway point in both metrics. It is not too heavy. If Boeing wants to end 787-8 production and the 787-...

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by FluidFlow
Mon May 04, 2020 10:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Reuters: Boeing considering 757-Plus and 767-X
Replies: 794
Views: 146777

Re: Reuters: Boeing considering 757-Plus and 767-X

Carbon wing, new wingbox, new system, new engines, unique fuselage length. That sounds close to a clean sheet and very expensive. It is and it would be a certification nightmare especially after MAX. I do not think Boeing will throw money at something like this. Chances are really high that Boeing ...

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by FluidFlow
Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa 10+ Billion EUR package: bailout or megasubsidy?
Replies: 195
Views: 20646

Re: Lufthansa 10+ Billion EUR package: bailout or megasubsidy?

LX and WK support is now confirmed. Liquidity aid for Swiss and Edelweiss: The federal government guarantees a maximum loan of CHF 1,275 billion. No link as heard it, not yet seen it online. Actually, the loan maximum loan amount will be CHF 1.5 bn, of which 85% (CHF 1.275 bn) will be guaranteed by...

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by FluidFlow
Wed Apr 29, 2020 11:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa 10+ Billion EUR package: bailout or megasubsidy?
Replies: 195
Views: 20646

Re: Lufthansa 10+ Billion EUR package: bailout or megasubsidy?

Doubt it, the slots would be there and fees will only know one way, and that is up. If FR want they could fly in and out of Zurich but it is an expensive adventure and it will be hard to undercut fares. Ryanair cannot use Zürich as a base because Labour would be costly. Zürich has a lot of hurdles ...

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by FluidFlow
Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa 10+ Billion EUR package: bailout or megasubsidy?
Replies: 195
Views: 20646

Re: Lufthansa 10+ Billion EUR package: bailout or megasubsidy?

That depends on things ever going back to normal and still is hugely unfair compared to other airlines in the common aviation market that do not require state aid like FR for example. FR would surely be interested in a strong presence in Zürich once the market has freed itself from state sponsored ...

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by FluidFlow
Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa 10+ Billion EUR package: bailout or megasubsidy?
Replies: 195
Views: 20646

Re: Lufthansa 10+ Billion EUR package: bailout or megasubsidy?

Bad news on this front. Swiss and Austrian government are willing to hand over large subsidies to OS and Swiss. LH is even considering insolvency to later escape the need to pay the money back. Not one Euro from the taxpayer should be given to them! With government backed loans, do you believe the ...

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by FluidFlow
Wed Apr 29, 2020 5:55 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA could make up to 12,000 employees redundant
Replies: 347
Views: 68973

Re: BA could make up to 12.000 employees redundant

It's going to take more than a year for it to recover. The Vaccine needs to come and be available to the general public in large numbers. Vaccines for these type of viruses are at best 65% effective. That is not the point, it will give people the feeling of safety for their next travel. Right now t...

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by FluidFlow
Tue Apr 28, 2020 3:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus CEO: "“We’re bleeding cash; may threaten existence of company"
Replies: 190
Views: 31282

Re: Airbus CEO: "“We’re bleeding cash; may threaten existence of company"

Looking at narrow bodies, it is still difficult to assess what Airbus' production rate needs to be given that the MAX is still grounded. If total demand for factory brand new narrow bodies is 400 in 2020, most of that will have to be fulfilled by Airbus. Those who want 737s will have to settle for ...

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by FluidFlow
Mon Apr 27, 2020 2:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KL Takes Into Account Possibility of AFKL Breakup
Replies: 208
Views: 23759

Re: KL Takes Into Account Possibility of AFKL Breakup

First, it is the job of every management to take all possibilities into account even tho they might never happen. Second, if IAG is the right option, if a split would happen, will only be seen after the UK/EU relationship is untangled and solved. We do not know yet how "cross-border" owner...

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by FluidFlow
Mon Apr 27, 2020 12:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DY Financial Discussion - 2020
Replies: 603
Views: 149789

Re: DY Financial Discussion - 2020

Competitor airlines can just entice the lessors away in a very targeted manner and collapse the.airline because no other lessor will do business with them. If airplane EI-XXX is the plane that operates on a route which is undermining your yield on a certain overlapping route then just offer the les...

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by FluidFlow
Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:22 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DY Financial Discussion - 2020
Replies: 603
Views: 149789

Re: DY Financial Discussion - 2020

Competitor airlines can just entice the lessors away in a very targeted manner and collapse the.airline because no other lessor will do business with them. If airplane EI-XXX is the plane that operates on a route which is undermining your yield on a certain overlapping route then just offer the les...

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by FluidFlow
Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cathay Pacific eyes Boeing 787-10 Dreamliner as swap for 777X
Replies: 161
Views: 26976

Re: Cathay Pacific eyes Boeing 787-10 Dreamliner as swap for 777X

And in the premium cabin you prefer 1-2-1 in the front, but this is also possible on the 787 and 2-3-2 or 2-2-2 are a good Y+ product. So I do not see any benefit of the added cabin area except to cramp more people in the aircraft and charge lower fares. If 777X operators would go 3-3-3 in Y then i...

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by FluidFlow
Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:35 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cathay Pacific eyes Boeing 787-10 Dreamliner as swap for 777X
Replies: 161
Views: 26976

Re: Cathay Pacific eyes Boeing 787-10 Dreamliner as swap for 777X

Before Covid the 777X was looking fine, probably never going to be a runaway success like the 77W, but reasonably successful in its own right. . :checkmark: On top of this the 777X does not provide significant additional features over the 787 or A350. 99% of the things a 777X can do, a 787/A350 can...

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by FluidFlow
Mon Apr 27, 2020 9:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cathay Pacific eyes Boeing 787-10 Dreamliner as swap for 777X
Replies: 161
Views: 26976

Re: Cathay Pacific eyes Boeing 787-10 Dreamliner as swap for 777X

Very insightful responses and I agree with a lot of it. The 787/350 is the future of the wide-body fleet world wide and they are the workhorses. I do believe that the 777X will have a market IF it delivers it’s efficient targets especially going into the middle of the decade. It’s also very good at...

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by FluidFlow
Mon Apr 27, 2020 9:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cathay Pacific eyes Boeing 787-10 Dreamliner as swap for 777X
Replies: 161
Views: 26976

Re: Cathay Pacific eyes Boeing 787-10 Dreamliner as swap for 777X

Why do people put the 777X and the 380 in the same class of aircraft. The 380 is HUGE. The 777X is not that much bigger than the 77W really. Most A380s seat about 500 passengers in normal industry config. The 777X doesn’t get anywhere that near that. I expect to see config at around 350 passengers ...

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by FluidFlow
Mon Apr 27, 2020 9:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus CEO: "“We’re bleeding cash; may threaten existence of company"
Replies: 190
Views: 31282

Re: Airbus CEO: "“We’re bleeding cash; may threaten existence of company"

In the end nobody forced Airbus to aim for nearly 70 frames a months, they could have stayed at 30 or 40. They decided to grow, they must accept the risks. Thousands of small business will go bust, but big co-operations are too big to fail. It is just sad. If Boeing and Airbus are allowed to fail, ...

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by FluidFlow
Mon Apr 27, 2020 7:12 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cathay Pacific eyes Boeing 787-10 Dreamliner as swap for 777X
Replies: 161
Views: 26976

Re: Cathay Pacific eyes Boeing 787-10 Dreamliner as swap for 777X

Is the 77X already dead before certification? No but I predict less deliveries than the A380, possibly beating the 747-8 by around 50 and be around 200ish by 2030 when the line will be ended. That are still 25 deliveries a year from 2022 onwards, what I would deem a success. Rate of 2 per month for...

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by FluidFlow
Mon Apr 27, 2020 7:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Embraer hopes E175-E2 jet efficiency helps modify scope clauses
Replies: 434
Views: 36676

Re: Embraer hopes E175-E2 jet efficiency helps modify scope clauses

Single pilot implies autonomous airplanes to cover the pilot failure case. Not happening at sub-50 seat due to cost. Do not worry, automation is dirt cheap compared to labour. That is why we really soon have more self driving cars than people who employ a driver. The same will go for aircraft. And ...

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by FluidFlow
Mon Apr 27, 2020 6:35 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus CEO: "“We’re bleeding cash; may threaten existence of company"
Replies: 190
Views: 31282

Re: Airbus CEO: "“We’re bleeding cash; may threaten existence of company"

Between the lines I guess Airbus is looking for concessions in the department of worker rights. A cut of 40% in production will also lead to a massive cut in jobs. Now as we are in Europe this will not go down easy and well, especially in France. As I think Airbus will be fine, one way or another, t...

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by FluidFlow
Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cathay Pacific eyes Boeing 787-10 Dreamliner as swap for 777X
Replies: 161
Views: 26976

Re: Cathay Pacific eyes Boeing 787-10 Dreamliner as swap for 777X

To be fair, CX could just walk away from the 777X. What would happen? Yeah they have to write off the advanced payments but they are gone anyway so it saves at least any further payments. And a hit to the books at this moment is not really a problem, the problem is liquidity so Boeing can be happy t...

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by FluidFlow
Fri Apr 17, 2020 3:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: CX to walk away from 777X order
Replies: 225
Views: 41576

Re: Rumor: CX to walk away from 777X order

So why get a more capable 77W when your 77Ws are more than enough and way cheaper to have then invest in something more capable just to waste some money? There's lots of ways that can unfold. Why keep 77X/A350 orders you can't afford that you can dump via force majuere when you can just extend what...

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by FluidFlow
Fri Apr 17, 2020 6:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: CX to walk away from 777X order
Replies: 225
Views: 41576

Re: Rumor: CX to walk away from 777X order

The 777X is by any means not a good choice from Boeing and for airlines. I never knew why it was even developed, especially after the A380 and the 747-8. Boeing shiftet the market with the 787 to light efficient WBs. Airbus countered with the A350 while letting the A380 rightfully die. Now Boeing o...

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by FluidFlow
Thu Apr 16, 2020 2:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: CX to walk away from 777X order
Replies: 225
Views: 41576

Re: Rumor: CX to walk away from 777X order

It might even be cheaper for CX to just leave the contract one sided and take a hit of less than 4B instead of paying 4B. What is it good for having 21 777X standing around or flying empty. Depending on the costs of cancelling you can calculate how much it would cost to use (or park) the 777X compar...

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by FluidFlow
Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DY Financial Discussion - 2020
Replies: 603
Views: 149789

Re: DY Financial Discussion - 2020

Norwegian may survive but might have to axe long haul operations: Roeska believes there are two likely outcomes for the airline: “Either the bondholders agree a conversion price for their debt into equity, or they do not. If they agree, the firm continues to operate, but shareholders will be severe...

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by FluidFlow
Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:30 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: CX to walk away from 777X order
Replies: 225
Views: 41576

Re: Rumor: CX to walk away from 777X order

The 777X is by any means not a good choice from Boeing and for airlines. I never knew why it was even developed, especially after the A380 and the 747-8. Boeing shiftet the market with the 787 to light efficient WBs. Airbus countered with the A350 while letting the A380 rightfully die. Now Boeing o...

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by FluidFlow
Thu Apr 16, 2020 8:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: CX to walk away from 777X order
Replies: 225
Views: 41576

Re: Rumor: CX to walk away from 777X order

The 777X is by any means not a good choice from Boeing and for airlines. I never knew why it was even developed, especially after the A380 and the 747-8. Boeing shiftet the market with the 787 to light efficient WBs. Airbus countered with the A350 while letting the A380 rightfully die. Now Boeing on...

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by FluidFlow
Thu Apr 16, 2020 6:35 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: CX to walk away from 777X order
Replies: 225
Views: 41576

Re: Rumor: CX to walk away from 777X order

The CX 777X order will be like the UA 350 order. Always on the books, never on the tarmac.

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by FluidFlow
Tue Apr 14, 2020 3:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing CEO: NMA will "start with a clean sheet of paper again"
Replies: 1642
Views: 155904

Re: Boeing CEO: NMA will "start with a clean sheet of paper again"

At what range will the -8 be fuel limited and has to carry additional fuel tanks in the hold to get more range for an ER? And would the 777X wing really be benefitial at all for anything shorter than 3000nm? It is unnecessary heavy due to the folding wing tip.

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by FluidFlow
Tue Apr 14, 2020 10:22 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing CEO: NMA will "start with a clean sheet of paper again"
Replies: 1642
Views: 155904

Re: Boeing CEO: NMA will "start with a clean sheet of paper again"

Independent of any other Manufacturers we can pretty sure assume the following things: The Max is the last iteration of the 737 design. It is already an abomination pushed to the limits and there is no more margin in the frame to change. There has to be a new narrow body design from Boeing at one po...

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by FluidFlow
Mon Apr 13, 2020 3:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing CEO: NMA will "start with a clean sheet of paper again"
Replies: 1642
Views: 155904

Re: Boeing CEO: NMA will "start with a clean sheet of paper again"

Any NMA will see 2026-2027 first deliveries, even if the federal government pumps in $15 Billion today. Nobody knows if the market late this decade has recovered or changed. When specifying the MoM, NMA, NSA, FSA, the main question is: Can the 737MAX cover the (huge) 150-200 seats up to 3000NM &quo...

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by FluidFlow
Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Any leaks, ideas, or otherwise: What is Airbus' next clean-sheet aircraft?
Replies: 395
Views: 53943

Re: Any leaks, ideas, or otherwise: What is Airbus' next clean-sheet aircraft?

Boeing is on the ropes at the moment, Airbus has their plate full too. Now does not seem to be the time to drop 10-15B on a new clean sheet airplane. I would love to see one, otherwise it will get quite boring, but the chance of it happening see quite slim to non-existent. Probably a good 3 to 4 ye...

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by FluidFlow
Tue Apr 07, 2020 1:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Any leaks, ideas, or otherwise: What is Airbus' next clean-sheet aircraft?
Replies: 395
Views: 53943

Re: Any leaks, ideas, or otherwise: What is Airbus' next clean-sheet aircraft?

length/ range Wikipedia: A300-600: 54,1 m, 4050 nm A330-200: 58,8 m, 7250 nm A330-300: 63,7 m, 6,350 nm B767-300ER: 55,0 m, 5,980nm And here we can see exactly why the A300 did not work while the B767-ER did. There are almost 2000nm in the difference. Now what is possible now with new technology th...

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by FluidFlow
Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:00 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: United facing class action over refunds
Replies: 29
Views: 3097

Re: United facing class action over refunds

https://onemileatatime.com/swiss-flight-refund/ LH Group, United's trans-Atlantic JV partner, is taking the refund thievery and scamming to a whole new level. According to this article, LH will approve refunds, but the refund processing is on hold indefinitely. I think LH is doing this so they can ...

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by FluidFlow
Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing CEO: NMA will "start with a clean sheet of paper again"
Replies: 1642
Views: 155904

Re: Boeing CEO: NMA will "start with a clean sheet of paper again"

This would all be fine, if they airlines would only cancel the MAX orders, but in reality Airbus is also facing cancellations and seriously reducing the production output. Which again they would not have to do, if every MAX customer would simply want a NEO, because then every Boeing cancellation wo...

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by FluidFlow
Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing CEO: NMA will "start with a clean sheet of paper again"
Replies: 1642
Views: 155904

Re: Boeing CEO: NMA will "start with a clean sheet of paper again"

I think there will be little "Medium" left in the 797. Boeing urgently needs a new NB, the 737 program is a train wreck now. So Airlines will avoid investing in it. This couldn't be further from reality. At the moment the majority of the global fleet is grounded for ALL models. Even if th...

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by FluidFlow
Mon Apr 06, 2020 7:56 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic creditors aprove restructuring; (files for BK in US Court)
Replies: 1517
Views: 184591

Re: Virgin Atlantic needs government support?

Also, I bet BA knows they'll eventually go to the government for help but they're just waiting for VS to potentially go bust before they do it. If it were clear that VS would be bailed out I'm sure they would have already asked as well. I do not know the exact law in the UK but I am not sure it wil...

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by FluidFlow
Mon Apr 06, 2020 5:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q2 2020
Replies: 607
Views: 57887

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, April 2020

I wonder how good future credits work right now for Boeing in the compensation departement. I think airlines would like hard cash right now or will cancel outright (do they then get money back?). Everything that minimizes cash outflow will be better than saving on future purchases, as a bankrupt air...

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by FluidFlow
Mon Apr 06, 2020 5:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic creditors aprove restructuring; (files for BK in US Court)
Replies: 1517
Views: 184591

Re: Virgin Atlantic needs government support?

Also, I bet BA knows they'll eventually go to the government for help but they're just waiting for VS to potentially go bust before they do it. If it were clear that VS would be bailed out I'm sure they would have already asked as well. I do not know the exact law in the UK but I am not sure it wil...

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by FluidFlow
Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:35 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: How Capable could an 737-10ER be?
Replies: 43
Views: 8664

Re: How Capable could an 737-10ER be?

So after two fatal accidents with the Max directly attributed to inadequate flight control design which was cobbled together to deal with higher thrust engines you want to give it even more power?! It’s time to retire this ancient, tired, compromised old design Boeing should have stopped with the N...

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by FluidFlow
Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic creditors aprove restructuring; (files for BK in US Court)
Replies: 1517
Views: 184591

Re: Virgin Atlantic facing collapse

In my oppinion, the condition for any bailout should be, that DL and RBS lose their shares and the government takes them over for free. Then offer the same for all other UK carriers that want help. Shareholders know the risks of having shares and if they lose, they lose but the workers should not lo...

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by FluidFlow
Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Oil at $20/bbl. What does it mean for the 747 and A380?
Replies: 71
Views: 11181

Re: Oil at $20/bbl. What does it mean for the 747 and A380?

I don't get the people who say that when this is over, passengers won't fly ... Things will be back to normal and People will fly. No reason to make an even bigger drama of this than it already is. People will fly, but it will be less. The more businesses adapt to Video conferences and getting thin...

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by FluidFlow
Thu Apr 02, 2020 5:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Oil at $20/bbl. What does it mean for the 747 and A380?
Replies: 71
Views: 11181

Re: Oil at $20/bbl. What does it mean for the 747 and A380?

I know this is anyone’s best guess but would the A340s survive this coronavirus? I know that Swiss just recently finished the refurbishment but I don’t think that really matters if this virus wreaks havoc for another 6 months to a year or however long this plays out for I would say, they keep it. Y...

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by FluidFlow
Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:21 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q2 2020
Replies: 607
Views: 57887

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, April 2020

The coronavirus has put the MAX out of anybody's mind except avgeeks. As somebody else said in some thread, people will be much more concerned about the aircraft being sanitized than they will be about it being a MAX. I agree, I honestly think the coronavirus was a blessing for the MAX in just abou...

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