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by FluidFlow
Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing CEO: NMA will "start with a clean sheet of paper again"
Replies: 1642
Views: 155808

Re: Boeing CEO: NMA will "start with a clean sheet of paper again"

We are comparing a same weight (sans tail) same capacity 7W to 6W. Same Wing, same engines. 7W is 20' shorter so of course the tail will be larger - but it won't lead to 15% higher fuel burn. Let's take this as a start. How will this work, if you can explain this I will be happy: So the tail will b...

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by FluidFlow
Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing CEO: NMA will "start with a clean sheet of paper again"
Replies: 1642
Views: 155808

Re: Boeing CEO: NMA will "start with a clean sheet of paper again"

We are comparing a same weight (sans tail) same capacity 7W to 6W. Same Wing, same engines. 7W is 20' shorter so of course the tail will be larger - but it won't lead to 15% higher fuel burn. Let's take this as a start. How will this work, if you can explain this I will be happy: So the tail will b...

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by FluidFlow
Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:14 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing CEO: NMA will "start with a clean sheet of paper again"
Replies: 1642
Views: 155808

Re: Boeing CEO: NMA will "start with a clean sheet of paper again"

Shorter gear will not work the problem will not be the rotation angle but the ground clearance for the nacelles. This limits or actually dictates the gear length. Check out the tail of the A310. It is massive compared to the aircraft lenght. Thats the dimensions you look at. Thats a lot of tail for...

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by FluidFlow
Thu Feb 13, 2020 2:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing CEO: NMA will "start with a clean sheet of paper again"
Replies: 1642
Views: 155808

Re: Boeing CEO: NMA will "start with a clean sheet of paper again"

Shorter gear will not work the problem will not be the rotation angle but the ground clearance for the nacelles. This limits or actually dictates the gear length. Check out the tail of the A310. It is massive compared to the aircraft lenght. Thats the dimensions you look at. Thats a lot of tail for ...

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by FluidFlow
Thu Feb 13, 2020 12:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus and Boeing 2020 Orders
Replies: 281
Views: 67965

Re: Airbus and Boeing 2020 Orders

Are you sure? I don’t see them listed as a customer on Boeing’s order page. https://boeing.mediaroom.com/2018-12-21-Boeing-Green-Africa-Airways-Announce-Landmark-Commitment-for-up-to-100-737-MAX-aircraft SEATTLE, Dec. 21, 2018 /PRNewswire/ -- Boeing [NYSE:BA] and Lagos-based Green Africa Airways to...

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by FluidFlow
Wed Feb 12, 2020 4:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing CEO: NMA will "start with a clean sheet of paper again"
Replies: 1642
Views: 155808

Re: Boeing CEO: NMA will "start with a clean sheet of paper again"

Boeing is anyway between a rock and a hard place. Focus on a small WB and the NEO gains massive market share. Focus on a new NB and fight head on with the NEO but with a product that might be technically advanced but needs to be competitive against a possible 100 frames per month mature NEO that wil...

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by FluidFlow
Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pegasus Airlines Flight PC2193 Runway Overrun at Istanbul (SAW)
Replies: 290
Views: 49645

Re: Pegasus Airlines Flight PC2193 Runway Overrun at Istanbul (SAW)

I did not read everything here so I hope this is not a repetition: Does the 737 has a system that warns the pilots that the remaining runway is too short? I know Airbus aircraft have such systems so I guess Boeing does too. It kind of shows really bad training if you land when the aircraft tells you...

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by FluidFlow
Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus suspends A320 production in Tianjin
Replies: 19
Views: 4151

Re: Airbus suspends A320 production in Tianjin

I guess due to Chinese domestic travel restrictions in place some workers cant go back to the factory from their Chinese New Year holidays as well as delays at ports and airports even for cargo ops.

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by FluidFlow
Wed Feb 05, 2020 2:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing CEO: NMA will "start with a clean sheet of paper again"
Replies: 1642
Views: 155808

Re: Boeing CEO: NMA will "start with a clean sheet of paper again"

If you think the gap in Boeing's line up is about killing the A330....... Definitely not to kill the 787... look the rate is already going down to 10 per month. They hope to raise it again to 12 from 2023 on, so Boeing will not launch anything that remotely could take away sales from the 787 for a ...

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by FluidFlow
Wed Feb 05, 2020 1:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing CEO: NMA will "start with a clean sheet of paper again"
Replies: 1642
Views: 155808

Re: Boeing CEO: NMA will "start with a clean sheet of paper again"

Boeing launching a small cheap wide body? 787 and A330 taking a massive hit. From Boeings perspective this is setting your house on fire (787) to kill a spider (A330). . If you think the gap in Boeing's line up is about killing the A330....... Definitely not to kill the 787... look the rate is alre...

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by FluidFlow
Wed Feb 05, 2020 1:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing CEO: NMA will "start with a clean sheet of paper again"
Replies: 1642
Views: 155808

Re: Boeing CEO: NMA will "start with a clean sheet of paper again"

This only worked back then because Boeing was able to deliver the same capability and capacity with twin jets compared to the tri-jets and quads they replaced. The MoM as all here state does not really exist or not in the voluminous form everyone claims it does. The 757 is already replaced: A321neo...

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by FluidFlow
Wed Feb 05, 2020 12:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing CEO: NMA will "start with a clean sheet of paper again"
Replies: 1642
Views: 155808

Re: Boeing CEO: NMA will "start with a clean sheet of paper again"

There must be a learning curve with the 787. So some next generation CFRP-aircraft must be cheaper to build and sell. Boeing can't leave this market segment to Airbus. Exactly and this kills off the 787s business case. The same goes for Airbus, a capable 767 replacement would kill off the A330 and ...

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by FluidFlow
Wed Feb 05, 2020 12:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing CEO: NMA will "start with a clean sheet of paper again"
Replies: 1642
Views: 155808

Re: Boeing CEO: NMA will "start with a clean sheet of paper again"

Boeing could just do again what they successfully did with the 757 and 767 when they had to replace the 727 and 720. This time in CFRP. This only worked back then because Boeing was able to deliver the same capability and capacity with twin jets compared to the tri-jets and quads they replaced. The...

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by FluidFlow
Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, February 2020
Replies: 708
Views: 95788

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, February 2020

With this schedule Boeing is around 1000 aircraft behind with deliveries not including the already stored ones.

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by FluidFlow
Tue Feb 04, 2020 12:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing CEO: NMA will "start with a clean sheet of paper again"
Replies: 1642
Views: 155808

Re: Boeing CEO: NMA will "start with a clean sheet of paper again"

I think US transcon is the poster case to look at showing the change that happened when the NB aircraft got enough range to fly it. Only a hand full of WB transcons is left. Frequency on the other hand is up. The same will happen on TATL over the next years. 757s get replaced by A321 and operators t...

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by FluidFlow
Mon Feb 03, 2020 3:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus to hike maximum zero-fuel weight on A220
Replies: 20
Views: 6333

Re: Airbus to hike maximum zero-fuel weight on A220

Dear all, please do not mix it with the already announced increase of the MTOW for the A220-300 (this year) and A220-100 (according to my knowledge next year). This is new. https://www.flightglobal.com/programmes/airbus-to-hike-maximum-zero-fuel-weight-on-a220/136499.article Are they expecting to c...

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by FluidFlow
Mon Feb 03, 2020 2:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ryanair submits offer to Boeing on new 737MAX order
Replies: 197
Views: 30916

Re: Ryanair submits offer to Boeing on new 737MAX order

The buyer making an offer ... is that really how it’s done ? When the buyer has all the cards, why not? The buyer doesn't have all the cards. Ryanair couldn't get 100 321Neos or A220s before 2025 now matter how much they begged. Who was the analyst a few weeks ago quoted as remarking the MAX is all...

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by FluidFlow
Mon Feb 03, 2020 1:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing CEO: NMA will "start with a clean sheet of paper again"
Replies: 1642
Views: 155808

Re: Boeing CEO: NMA will "start with a clean sheet of paper again"

In theory the NMA wasn't going to be any good at carrying cargo by design. Well from all the chatter that was being "leaked" there were two competing theories, the East wanted cargo and the West wanted a people mover with limited cargo capability. I guess some may say that is another reas...

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by FluidFlow
Mon Feb 03, 2020 1:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ryanair submits offer to Boeing on new 737MAX order
Replies: 197
Views: 30916

Re: Ryanair submits offer to Boeing on new 737MAX order

MOL always goes in when the other side is weak. He will get a great deal on the existing order as well as on the possible new order. It is the right move to make, get new build aircraft dirt cheap. Calhoun needs a win and an Order for 50+ maybe even 100 MAX-10 would be a great thing to announce when...

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by FluidFlow
Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:55 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing CEO: NMA will "start with a clean sheet of paper again"
Replies: 1642
Views: 155808

Re: Boeing CEO: NMA will "start with a clean sheet of paper again"

Turn around times are not a problem in a hub and spoke system where priority lies on connectivity. It does not matter if the additional time on the ground can be compensated with higher loads and fares by offering connectivity. Two aisles are only there because of regulations. If airlines could go 6...

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by FluidFlow
Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Boeing to reduce 787 production to 10 aircraft per month in 2021
Replies: 112
Views: 22138

Re: Boeing considering another 787 production cut

I have no idea how specifically you make aircraft more cheaply by running at a higher rate, it comes from what was stated on here by various posters and things from Boeing. It's called economies of scale. It's normally cheaper to build lots of an item rather than just a few. Consider fixed costs - ...

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by FluidFlow
Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:16 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Report: Airbus set to settle corruption probe
Replies: 130
Views: 10201

Re: Report: Airbus set to settle corruption probe

Probably a good timing for Airbus. It is small compared to the Boeing problem and therefore will not get a lot of media attention. So I think Airbus wanted to get over with it and swallowed the higher price tag to get it done during an aviation crisis that does not include Airbus. Even though the $3...

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by FluidFlow
Thu Jan 23, 2020 3:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, January 2020
Replies: 1740
Views: 191318

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, January 2020

SW is using some very creative accounting to get to that $828 Million loss. Sorry but having more aircraft in the fleet would not be helping the Load Factor. That is the big reason for the earnings miss. They are saying the MAX grounding impacted Operating Earnings by $828 Million. On average they ...

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by FluidFlow
Thu Jan 23, 2020 3:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing CEO: NMA will "start with a clean sheet of paper again"
Replies: 1642
Views: 155808

Re: Boeing CEO: NMA will "start with a clean sheet of paper again"

In fact this could essentially replace black box technology - where all information on a flight is being continuously relayed to home base. If the bandwidth on Satellite's is not available yet it will be very soon. Plus we are not talking about tracking 100's of Millions of Cars. We are talking abo...

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by FluidFlow
Thu Jan 23, 2020 3:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, January 2020
Replies: 1740
Views: 191318

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, January 2020

Southwest says the grounding has cost it over 800 million dollars and for AA it seems to be around 540 million dollars. https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/23/business/southwest-american-airlines-earnings/index.html This is for around 8 months of grounding. If we add another 8 months until next August ...

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by FluidFlow
Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, January 2020
Replies: 1740
Views: 191318

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, January 2020

Southwest says the grounding has cost it over 800 million dollars and for AA it seems to be around 540 million dollars. https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/23/business/southwest-american-airlines-earnings/index.html This is for around 8 months of grounding. If we add another 8 months until next August w...

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by FluidFlow
Thu Jan 23, 2020 7:55 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing CEO: NMA will "start with a clean sheet of paper again"
Replies: 1642
Views: 155808

Re: Boeing CEO: NMA will "start with a clean sheet of paper again"

Seattle Times ( https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/new-boeing-ceo-calhoun-says-employee-confidence-is-shaken-my-job-is-to-restore-it/ ) reports: Calhoun announced that the development work Boeing has been doing for several years on the NMA is starting over. “We might have to sta...

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by FluidFlow
Wed Jan 22, 2020 3:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL159 to ICN Diverted to FAI
Replies: 39
Views: 8876

Re: DL159 to ICN Diverted to FAI

Currently -14F in FAI. Hopefully, they won't have to do an engine change. Friends did an engine change in a C-5 at Eielson AFB one winter—8 days which, being outdoors in the -30F weather for four hours a day, wasn’t too bad. LX did one in February '17 with an outside temperature of -30°C in Iqaluit...

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by FluidFlow
Wed Jan 22, 2020 2:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A321 P2F first flight
Replies: 111
Views: 27951

Re: A321 P2F first flight

A320/A321P2F will be a game changer on on the narrow bodied jet freighter market, especially since B737F and B757F do not have containerised lower deck capabilities. Considering how popular the 757 has been as a freighter, that point appears to be irrelevant to freight haulers. It's not irrelevant....

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by FluidFlow
Wed Jan 22, 2020 10:24 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BSL reaches new record of over 9 million pax in 2019
Replies: 9
Views: 1265

Re: BSL reaches new record of over 9 million pax in 2019

And it is still a special situation as there are different custom rules. So while you can travel free between the EU and Switzerland your goods can not. That is one of the reasons there is still a French and a Swiss "exit".

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by FluidFlow
Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Davos WEF 2020 thread
Replies: 10
Views: 1288

Re: Davos WEF 2020 thread

ACH gets a good amount of movements as well, as ZRH can become really busy and parking space is very limited (and super expensive). I wonder if there will be a few also flying to SMV if they find enough pilots who are able to fly there. Really impressive to see bigger birds there when they have to s...

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by FluidFlow
Tue Jan 21, 2020 1:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Bombardier reassessing future participation in Airbus Canada Limited Partnership
Replies: 234
Views: 25009

Re: Bombardier reassessing future participation in Airbus Canada Limited Partnership

Getting a big pile of expensive R&D for "free" with he biggest string attached to this R&D is an aircraft that has the possibility to sell 1000+, probably 2000+ frames over its lifetime is not a bad deal at all. Even if at the end of the A220 in 15 years+ there is a loss of 2B for ...

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by FluidFlow
Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus to start producing A321neo in Toulouse
Replies: 21
Views: 4033

Re: Airbus to start producing A321neo in Toulouse

Free's up the old A320 building for something new, possibly A220 if enough orders allow for increased production in the future. 4 in Mobile, 8 in Mirabel and 8 in Toulouse for a total of 20 per month in 2027.

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by FluidFlow
Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Bombardier reassessing future participation in Airbus Canada Limited Partnership
Replies: 234
Views: 25009

Re: Bombardier reassessing future participation in Airbus Canada Limited Partnership

I'm sure Airbus could take advantage of the situation BBD finds itself in to buy out the whole program and fund it at a level that would support aggressive ramp up of production. It'll be darned interesting to see if they end up doing so. I think this is the reason up to now the ramp up was relativ...

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by FluidFlow
Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: FD uses ladder to extract pax from upper deck of a380 on med divert.
Replies: 9
Views: 2553

Re: FD uses ladder to extract pax from upper deck of a380 on med divert.

Probably because you can load the passenger onto the little platform atop the ladder and either lower said platform along the ladder or most probably lower the ladder with the platform to ground level. It then works like an elevator. I admit I did not think of the ladder as being equipped with such...

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by FluidFlow
Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: FD uses ladder to extract pax from upper deck of a380 on med divert.
Replies: 9
Views: 2553

Re: FD uses ladder to extract pax from upper deck of a380 on med divert.

Probably because you can load the passenger onto the little platform atop the ladder and either lower said platform along the ladder or most probably lower the ladder with the platform to ground level. It then works like an elevator.

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by FluidFlow
Fri Jan 17, 2020 9:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing orders from China could resume now that trade deal is signed
Replies: 85
Views: 8249

Re: Boeing orders from China could resume now that trade deal is signed

But what becomes of the prospect of an NMA in this region? I do not remember that YOU supported this idea. You rather agreed with those who think that Boeing failed to close their business case, and that it will NEVER do it, right? "This growth is also supported by the use of smaller widebodie...

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by FluidFlow
Wed Jan 15, 2020 12:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, January 2020
Replies: 1740
Views: 191318

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, January 2020

I believe the 777X got a new wing box and gear - no idea if it's higher clearance though. https://www.flightglobal.com/systems-and-interiors/subaru-gears-up-for-777x-with-eye-on-efficiency-cost/130538.article Exactly and they still could grandfather the rest of the frame. But for the 737 Boeing dec...

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by FluidFlow
Wed Jan 15, 2020 8:56 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, January 2020
Replies: 1740
Views: 191318

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, January 2020

We need to add it to the list of things to address to fix problems across the industry. I gave a perfectly reasonable explanation of what is wrong with the rigid framework of grandfathering. It was more expensive to develop MCAS and move the engines forward than it would have been to raise the land...

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by FluidFlow
Tue Jan 14, 2020 1:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, January 2020
Replies: 1740
Views: 191318

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, January 2020

We need to add it to the list of things to address to fix problems across the industry. I gave a perfectly reasonable explanation of what is wrong with the rigid framework of grandfathering. It was more expensive to develop MCAS and move the engines forward than it would have been to raise the land...

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by FluidFlow
Tue Jan 14, 2020 1:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, January 2020
Replies: 1740
Views: 191318

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, January 2020

It wasn't impossible or unreasonable. The rules were wrong. They should have been changed. So we need to add " The rules were wrong " to the list of reasons why it's not Boeing's fault? We need to add it to the list of things to address to fix problems across the industry. I gave a perfec...

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by FluidFlow
Tue Jan 14, 2020 1:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Flybe News and Discussion Thread Update: Flybe ceases flying, enters administration
Replies: 783
Views: 115985

Re: Flybe News and Discussion Thread

FluidFlow Perhaps people should have a choice. Just read your post again, they do have a choice already. A private corporation does not need to provide a choice to anyone. Therefore if said private company is worried about the bad image its core business has due to the impact on the environment it ...

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by FluidFlow
Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Flybe News and Discussion Thread Update: Flybe ceases flying, enters administration
Replies: 783
Views: 115985

Re: Flybe News and Discussion Thread

I think with the current environmental protest movement and increased awareness in the UK that would be an interesting move. But to be fair, many services that flybe run the competing rail journey is horendou. The global Co2 contribution by air travel is the same as the environmental impact of clou...

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by FluidFlow
Tue Jan 14, 2020 11:35 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Swiss Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 180
Views: 30205

Re: Swiss Aviation Thread - 2020

GVA also urgently needs a refurbishment especially in the area where security is. Last time I had to use it it was a horrible experience. That was three years ago through and it might be better now but back then it was awful.

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by FluidFlow
Tue Jan 14, 2020 11:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Flybe News and Discussion Thread Update: Flybe ceases flying, enters administration
Replies: 783
Views: 115985

Re: Flybe News and Discussion Thread

I get that, the problem is more, where do you get the passengers from for this Routes. Apart from NI, that is on a different island, you have the business traffic but will it increase? Do you think there will be a massive boost in leisure traffic from removing the tax? Leisure in the UK goes abroad...

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by FluidFlow
Tue Jan 14, 2020 11:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AC35 diverts to HNL after passenger dies onboard.
Replies: 56
Views: 13477

Re: AC35 diverts to HNL after passenger dies onboard.

Was the medical condition known to the airline? It should be if you go into the conditions of carriage. Depending on the actual cause of death and the knowledge of said it might be better to divert and get the other passengers out of the aircraft. Noumea, Port Vila, Nandi, Apia, and Pago Pago were ...

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by FluidFlow
Tue Jan 14, 2020 10:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Flybe News and Discussion Thread Update: Flybe ceases flying, enters administration
Replies: 783
Views: 115985

Re: Flybe News and Discussion Thread

I would not call it a massive boost as the cut only applies to domestic routes. The UK domestic market is a really small percentage of the total UK aviation market that almost in its entirety flies abroad. LON-GLA/EDI/ABZ/INV/BHD/BFS/NQY/DND for example. That's not considering deps ex BRS/MAN/EDI/G...

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by FluidFlow
Tue Jan 14, 2020 9:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Flybe News and Discussion Thread Update: Flybe ceases flying, enters administration
Replies: 783
Views: 115985

Re: Flybe News and Discussion Thread

Regarding APD, it is being reported that the UK government will enter into talks with BE specifically but also with other airline bosses about the distinct possibility of an ADP reduction/revocation. This cannot be done for BE alone as this would essentially mean that "state aid" is being...

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by FluidFlow
Tue Jan 14, 2020 8:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AC35 diverts to HNL after passenger dies onboard.
Replies: 56
Views: 13477

Re: AC35 diverts to HNL after passenger dies onboard.

I don’t see the point in diverting for an apparent death in flight. Especially for a passenger with a known medical condition. Was the medical condition known to the airline? Depending on the actual cause of death and the knowledge of said it might be better to divert and get the other passengers o...

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by FluidFlow
Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:56 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 2019 was a good year for Airbus. 2020 will be even better.
Replies: 53
Views: 7356

Re: 2019 was a good year for Airbus. 2020 will be even better.

The shape of the supercritical A310 and A320 aerofoils are quite similar, but the trailing edge of the A310 is very different to that of the A320. An A310neo could use the same centre wing box design as that of the A310-200/-300. However, since an A310neo should be designed with continuous flaps an...

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