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by Antaras
Mon Dec 28, 2020 4:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Malaysia Airlines News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 312
Views: 85677

Re: Malaysia Mulls Shutting Down or Selling MAS

flee wrote:
Although not officially announced, some insiders have mentioned that the A380s have been returned to the lessors.

Not a big surprise...
But who is the lessors of the MH A380?

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by Antaras
Mon Dec 28, 2020 2:47 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Vietnam Air Force in the future: Su-22 replacement, P-3 Orion, AEW&C and some more C-295?
Replies: 91
Views: 4307

Vietnam Air Force in the future: Su-22 replacement, P-3 Orion, AEW&C and some more C-295?

I am just being curious about the Vietnam People Air Force (VNPAF) fleet in the future, and especially what it would do with the $6.6 billion defense budget for 2021. With the pressure from its "friendly" neighbor China PR, seems like VNPAF will busy shopping for new toys to adapt to the d...

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by Antaras
Mon Dec 28, 2020 12:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Malaysia Airlines News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 312
Views: 85677

Re: Malaysia Mulls Shutting Down or Selling MAS

It would be a great shame if a historic and notable name like MAS were to go under. It was the pride of Malaysia for so long, and I'm pretty sure there is enough demand for a full-service carrier based there given its size and economy. Their Negaraku special livery is beautiful as well and part of ...

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by Antaras
Sat Dec 26, 2020 10:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Bamboo wants to invest in 4 Embraer E-jets for VCS service
Replies: 118
Views: 17739

Re: Bamboo wants to invest in 4 Embraer E-jets for VCS service

Speaking of the E175, there are seven ex-Flybe E175s currently up for lease, presumably by the owners of Flybe (likely Stobart Air, which owns the frames that Bamboo is wet-leasing from Great Dane), that are around 8 years old. How is Bamboo not all over those frames, since it's unlikely that Flybe...

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by Antaras
Sat Dec 26, 2020 6:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Vietnam's first leisure airline - Vietravel Airlines - plans first flight in December
Replies: 46
Views: 39348

Re: Vietnam's first leisure airline - Vietravel Airlines - plans first flight in December

danipawa wrote:
Nice Livery

Still not as good as other A321 livery in Vietnam :)

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by Antaras
Sat Dec 26, 2020 5:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Bamboo wants to invest in 4 Embraer E-jets for VCS service
Replies: 118
Views: 17739

Re: Bamboo wants to invest in 4 Embraer E-jets for VCS service

Speaking of the E175, there are seven ex-Flybe E175s currently up for lease, presumably by the owners of Flybe (likely Stobart Air, which owns the frames that Bamboo is wet-leasing from Great Dane), that are around 8 years old. How is Bamboo not all over those frames, since it's unlikely that Flybe...

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by Antaras
Sat Dec 26, 2020 5:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Bamboo wants to invest in 4 Embraer E-jets for VCS service
Replies: 118
Views: 17739

Re: Bamboo wants to invest in 4 Embraer E-jets for VCS service

2 more on wet-lease coming from LOT https://tekdeeps.com/lot-embraers-to-fly-to-vietnam-aviation/?fbclid=IwAR0SyDyv_dixDcNMvcxqbZ3SpPs7WQR1oavTeW1IyvdsDQC2eZkHijoSADo Interesting that the LOT airframes are operating on intra-mainland domestic routes, while the Great Dane airframes hold the VCS rout...

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by Antaras
Sat Dec 26, 2020 5:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Bamboo wants to invest in 4 Embraer E-jets for VCS service
Replies: 118
Views: 17739

Re: Bamboo wants to invest in 4 Embraer E-jets for VCS service

With the collapse of Montenegro Airlines in Europe, they had three E195s, all leased from GECAS. Two of the 3 are less than 12 years old. I have to wonder if Bamboo Airways could strike a quick agreement to lease those two frames (most recently 4O-AOB/C, msn 19000283/19000358). They could then retu...

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by Antaras
Sat Dec 26, 2020 4:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Vietnam's first leisure airline - Vietravel Airlines - plans first flight in December
Replies: 46
Views: 39348

Re: Vietnam's first leisure airline - Vietravel Airlines - plans first flight in December

The carrier announced that it has received its own AOC. 1. VU will launch its first flight on mid-January, connecting the triangle HAN-HUI-SGN, eyes expansion to CXR, VDO, DAD and DLI. VU is also eyeing potential international markets (in the next few months) such as BKK, Middle East, and Northeast ...

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by Antaras
Fri Dec 25, 2020 12:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pratt announces GTF at 99.98% dispatch reliability
Replies: 10
Views: 3240

Re: Pratt announces GTF at 99.98% dispatch reliability

Vietnamese carriers should be happy for this. Due to the GTF problems, CAA Vietnam stops all the import of GTF-powered A320/321neo. There are at least 7 deliveries, including 2 A320neo from Vietnam Airlines and (at least) 5 A321neo from Vietjet were affected. If PW cannot fix the problem, its gigant...

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by Antaras
Fri Dec 25, 2020 12:04 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: 2 vs 4 engines
Replies: 128
Views: 12190

Re: 2 vs 4 engines

johns624 wrote:
ClassicLover wrote:

Antaras wrote:
QF regrets choosing the A380 instead of B77W?


If you've got a quote saying this from someone at Qantas, now's the time as I'd like to see that.
He asked it as a question.

Yes, I said that it more than like a doubt or a question, not really a statement.

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by Antaras
Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:58 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: 2 vs 4 engines
Replies: 128
Views: 12190

Re: 2 vs 4 engines

1. Two engines cost $10 million each, 4 $8.5 million each. When you argue for a quad widebody, that means a $14 million higher sales price, minimum. This isn’t true, for example a GE90 list price is in excess of 40 million, airlines would purchase them for around 25. Engines deals have always been ...

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by Antaras
Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:54 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: 2 vs 4 engines
Replies: 128
Views: 12190

Re: 2 vs 4 engines

Sokes wrote:
Has there ever been a case where four engines were chosen when two engines could have done the job?

QF regrets choosing the A380 instead of B77W?

Btw, the A380 vs the B77W is not a (near) 1:1 opponents just like the B772ER vs A343, or B77W vs A346.

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by Antaras
Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: EVA Air to be punished over pilot spreading coronavirus infection
Replies: 8
Views: 2794

Re: EVA Air to be punished over pilot spreading coronavirus infection

Many territories have thousands of more cases every day while Vietnam, Taiwan, Aussie, and Zealand have been freaking out by a single domestic transmission :)

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by Antaras
Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 787 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020
Replies: 298
Views: 75362

Re: Boeing 787 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Check out my 787 blog post: https://nyc787.blogspot.com/2020/12/big-changes-for-787-program-as.html As well as my 787 production spreadsheets: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FH3Y2-vRUgojntPkCSJI5Pd-15rsJ1a0SFCRaT-iqgo/edit?usp=sharing Uh wow it is your site. Always thank you for your exece...

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by Antaras
Sat Dec 19, 2020 6:32 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Why doesn't Iran Air buy Russian aircraft?
Replies: 11
Views: 2117

Re: Why doesn't Iran Air buy Russian aircraft?

Russian airplanes designed in the last few decades have used western avionics and systems suppliers that are subject to sanctions. Iranian airlines have sought to subvert sanctions by acquiring used planes. A used A330 is far more economical and reliable than an Il96 The same answer for Air Koryo a...

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by Antaras
Sat Dec 19, 2020 1:16 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Greenland places Christmas order for an A330neo
Replies: 72
Views: 11141

Re: Air Greenland places Christmas order for an A330neo

Maintenance costs sometimes overrule the ownership wich means you can`t keep the airframe forever without any costs. No airline needs a hangar queen special when you have only one aircraft of size in your fleet The current plane is 22 years old and the 9th A332 built. Air Greenland has just had it ...

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by Antaras
Fri Dec 18, 2020 11:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Greenland places Christmas order for an A330neo
Replies: 72
Views: 11141

Re: Air Greenland places Christmas order for an A330neo

Is there a reason why they went for the -800? Distance isn't an issue, so the -900 might be better CASM. Then again Greenland shouldn't really need the size. So why not go with an A321-neo/LR/XLR? The 800 looks better than the 900 :yes: This makes my day ! Remember me where the doughter next door l...

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by Antaras
Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Greenland places Christmas order for an A330neo
Replies: 72
Views: 11141

Re: Air Greenland places Christmas order for an A330neo

Why is Air Greenland replacing their a332? It's only 18 years old. They will take delivery in 2022 and mayby they that think for the more efficient bird it`s time ? They own the airframe, not lease, so technically they can keep that airframe forever without any cost (except operating and maintenanc...

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by Antaras
Fri Dec 18, 2020 7:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Greenland places Christmas order for an A330neo
Replies: 72
Views: 11141

Re: Air Greenland places Christmas order for an A330neo

So why not go with an A321-neo/LR/XLR? Cargo. My understanding is that Air Greenland carries an enormous amount of cargo from Denmark to Greenland. Bingo - they bring a lot of cargo in (most of their perishables) on the a330 and then distribute it to other areas in Greenland on their Dash 8s. The a...

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by Antaras
Fri Dec 18, 2020 6:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Vietnam's first leisure airline - Vietravel Airlines - plans first flight in December
Replies: 46
Views: 39348

Re: Vietnam's first leisure airline - Vietravel Airlines - plans first flight in December

The boarding pass form of the new carrier - Vietravel - is "leaked". Noticeably, seems like Vietravel will recieve the IATA code VU , and with me this is a very nice code. The presence of the IATA code is also hinting that this carrier is almost getting its own AOC. https://i.imgur.com/Ba7...

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by Antaras
Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Long Thanh Int'l Airport: Construction and Development Thread
Replies: 97
Views: 16279

Re: Long Thanh Int'l Airport: Construction and Development Thread

Yeah I quite like LT06 design, it is the most efficient design among those submitted. Well anything can change in Vietnam, terminal 2 will not be built for another 7-10 years so who knows. I predict that T2 would also feature the T1-lotus design. If we want something new perhaps we must wait until ...

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by Antaras
Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aeroflot plans for B777-300ER and A350-900?
Replies: 6
Views: 2541

Re: Aeroflot plans for B777-300ER and A350-900?

Rossiya747 wrote:
Does anyone know if the new livery will be on the 777-300er?

I got a model of the current one so it would be a nice addition to the collection

Never. The new livery is for the A359 exclusively.

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by Antaras
Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Long Thanh Int'l Airport: Construction and Development Thread
Replies: 97
Views: 16279

Re: Long Thanh Int'l Airport: Construction and Development Thread

The main investor and owner of the airport, Airport Corporation of Vietnam (ACV), confirmed that the financial investors and many donors have committed at least $5-billion for the construction of the airport. https://vietnambiz.vn/acv-da-duoc-cam-ket-tai-tro-5-6-ty-usd-xay-san-bay-long-thanh-2020121...

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by Antaras
Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Long Thanh Int'l Airport: Construction and Development Thread
Replies: 97
Views: 16279

Re: Long Thanh Int'l Airport: Construction and Development Thread

Don't get me wrong, the pier design is fine, centralised checkin and security in a large headhouse and smaller piers. What I mean is because of the shape of the terminal, building 4 of them would lead to lots of lost space. A lotus shaped main terminal with a toast rack satellite terminal arrangeme...

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by Antaras
Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Sweden proposed $2-billion loan-package for aviation development in Vietnam
Replies: 5
Views: 1242

Re: Sweden proposed $2-billion loan-package for aviation development in Vietnam

Good idea to shift flights from inside cities. But Wiki states the old airport of Ho Chi Minh City isn't supposed to close when the new airport opens. Speaking of Gretha Thunberg: "To traveling from Hanoi to Hochiminh City for the distance of around 1700 km with the current intercity transport...

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by Antaras
Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AirAsia X plans overhaul to survive
Replies: 263
Views: 43430

Re: AirAsia X plans overhaul to survive

Small question: are AirAsia's A321XLRs ordered under the AirAsiaX identity?
Just re-checked AIB's order book and found out AAX ordered 30x A321neo.

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by Antaras
Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:14 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AirAsia X plans overhaul to survive
Replies: 263
Views: 43430

Re: AirAsia X plans overhaul to survive

AAX should sell some A330s to Vietjet. There are rumors saying that VJ has been planning widebodies ops.
AAX can even transfer some A339neo orders to VJ.

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by Antaras
Tue Dec 15, 2020 3:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Petition to Change China Airlines name to Taiwan Airlines as Countries Mistakenly Ban it Over Coronavirus
Replies: 115
Views: 25674

Re: Petition to Change China Airlines name to Taiwan Airlines as Countries Mistakenly Ban it Over Coronavirus

Not really related, but are Taiwanese carriers required to paint the reg on the head of the airframes (near the cockpit)

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by Antaras
Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Sweden proposed $2-billion loan-package for aviation development in Vietnam
Replies: 5
Views: 1242

Sweden proposed $2-billion loan-package for aviation development in Vietnam

Weeks ago, the meeting between the Vietnamese Prime Minister and the Swedish Ambassador got some big achievements, especially those in aviation. https://e.vnexpress.net/news/business/economy/sweden-proposes-2-billion-credit-for-aviation-development-in-vietnam-4202162.html Swedish financial instituti...

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by Antaras
Mon Dec 14, 2020 7:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AirAsia X plans overhaul to survive
Replies: 263
Views: 43430

Re: AirAsia X plans overhaul to survive

VV wrote:
Okay. It seems the total debt is "only" 1.5 billion (one point five billion) US dollars and not 15 billion (fifteen billion) US dollars.

Or did I miss something?

It is very big in anyway

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by Antaras
Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:21 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Long Thanh Int'l Airport: Construction and Development Thread
Replies: 97
Views: 16279

Re: Long Thanh Int'l Airport: Construction and Development Thread

The interior definitely is reminiscent of ICN T2 with the use of wood and very rectangular arrangements. I really don't understand the terminal design though, it looks very inefficient in terms of gate space... would be a big mistake if they decide to go through with the plan to make 4 of the same ...

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by Antaras
Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Long Thanh Int'l Airport: Construction and Development Thread
Replies: 97
Views: 16279

Re: Long Thanh Int'l Airport: Construction and Development Thread

Moreover, the new airport would be featured with a 123m (403.5ft) ATC Tower , which is projected to be the third tallest ATC Tower on Earth after BKK (132.2m/434ft), KUL (130m/426ft), and slightly taller than our current third-place ATL (121.31m/398ft). Just as mentioned, this ATC Tower would be mo...

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by Antaras
Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Long Thanh Int'l Airport: Construction and Development Thread
Replies: 97
Views: 16279

Re: Long Thanh Int'l Airport: Construction and Development Thread

A relatively quick (and nonstop) rail line to the centre of Saigon would be very useful. Airports without good rail links are a real pain sometimes, though many slate it for being inconvenient I think LGW has a far superior public transport network to LHR for example, especially if you're outside L...

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by Antaras
Sat Dec 12, 2020 1:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: British Airways network updates
Replies: 583
Views: 90526

Re: BA launch flights from SOU

LHR-SGN would be smashing! I think these flights from SOU are as good as I will get in terms of wishful routes. This means that BA will have to compete with "both" VN and QH in the future on the route, which might be unnecessary for such a low demand route. However, Southampton or Manches...

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by Antaras
Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Long Thanh Int'l Airport: Construction and Development Thread
Replies: 97
Views: 16279

Re: Long Thanh Int'l Airport: Construction and Development Thread

Good news for Saigon ! It's finally coming ! I'll never get tired of SGN but I must I won't regret its immigration queues. It's worth noting there are also some talks about either expanding HAN or build a new airport south of Hanoi. It is worth building a new airport in the south of Hanoi because t...

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by Antaras
Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Long Thanh Int'l Airport: Construction and Development Thread
Replies: 97
Views: 16279

Re: Long Thanh Int'l Airport: Construction and Development Thread

The government is suggested soon deploy a light railway network directly connecting SGN and the new airport http://www.baodongnai.com.vn/tintuc/202012/kien-nghi-som-trien-khai-xay-dung-tuyen-duong-sat-nhe-noi-san-bay-long-thanh-voi-san-bay-tan-son-nhat-3034518/ At the meeting with the leaders of the...

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by Antaras
Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: British Airways network updates
Replies: 583
Views: 90526

Re: BA launch flights from SOU

Hmmm. Something isn't quite right. When I click on Berlin it tells me that my departure airport is Hanoi ... And BA apparently fly to a place called Tegel? I think I remember my dad telling me about that. TXL, wasn't it? Easy explanation for Hanoi, I live in Vietnam! Not sure why Tegel still comes ...

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by Antaras
Fri Dec 11, 2020 5:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q4 2020
Replies: 587
Views: 92828

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q4 2020

Considering it is just a 737-8 with an extra set of doors, don't think Boeing cares - doubly so since they charge more for the larger models so I expect they would be happy with every 737-MAX 200 becoming a 737-10. Yes, FR alone justifies the spend it took to add the door and do the paperwork. As e...

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by Antaras
Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q4 2020
Replies: 587
Views: 92828

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q4 2020

Which still leaves the 200 as an orphan product. Considering it is just a 737-8 with an extra set of doors, don't think Boeing cares - doubly so since they charge more for the larger models so I expect they would be happy with every 737-MAX 200 becoming a 737-10. Yes, FR alone justifies the spend i...

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by Antaras
Fri Dec 11, 2020 12:14 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q4 2020
Replies: 587
Views: 92828

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q4 2020

That's why the MAX 200 us pretty unpopular with only 2 customers: Ryanair Group and Vietjet Group, the two most cruel Ultra-LCC on Earth. As VJ is reducing the order, we can see that the type is even more rare and unpopular. Or VJ switched to the 737-10 because they can seat 230 in that one and the...

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by Antaras
Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q4 2020
Replies: 587
Views: 92828

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q4 2020

I would think an airline would only order it if they planned to operate the frame solely in a 200-seat configuration. That's why the MAX 200 us pretty unpopular with only 2 customers: Ryanair Group and Vietjet Group, the two most cruel Ultra-LCC on Earth. As VJ is reducing the order, we can see tha...

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by Antaras
Thu Dec 10, 2020 8:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q4 2020
Replies: 587
Views: 92828

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q4 2020

Can we convert between the MAX 8 and the MAX 200 version just like we do with the A321ceo Cabin Flex config???
Vietjet and Ryanair would love it if it is possible.

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by Antaras
Thu Dec 10, 2020 8:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q4 2020
Replies: 587
Views: 92828

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q4 2020

Vietjet? This might be where Ryanair gets their 75 additional frames from? Vietjet did not reduce their order, just apparently changed the breakdown between models. Only a few -200s for Vietjet have been built, which VJ will still get since they are still taking 28 according to ch-aviation. As ther...

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by Antaras
Thu Dec 10, 2020 6:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q4 2020
Replies: 587
Views: 92828

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q4 2020

Based on data from ch-aviation, seems like Vietjet has revised its order of 200 737 MAX. Initial order: 100x B737-8-200; 20 B737-8; 80 B737-10. Current order: https://i.imgur.com/K438oRi.png VJ has significantly decreased the MAX-200 order from 100 (initially) to 28 (currently). Perhaps it is just e...

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by Antaras
Thu Dec 10, 2020 6:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 787 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020
Replies: 298
Views: 75362

Re: Boeing 787 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Based on ch-aviation, seems like Bamboo's order of 10 B789s has put into the production list. I found the MSN, but not the line number. https://i.imgur.com/fDTIe33.png The report shows that Bamboo would likely order a big order of (more than) 30 pairs of GEnx-1B for its orders of 30 airframes (10 fi...

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by Antaras
Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:40 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Unusual places your food comes from
Replies: 17
Views: 1090

Re: Unusual places your food comes from

DTVG wrote:
So what is a „usual place“ for food to come from?

your mom

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by Antaras
Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:37 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: All-time Epic Fail Threads Of A.net CONTINUED
Replies: 32
Views: 3061

Re: All-time Epic Fail Threads Of A.net CONTINUED

viewtopic.php?t=1409013


OMG the Turkey one.... :faint:


Interestingly, you could still reply to that thread! :lol:

It was locked a while ago
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scbriml wrote:
Grizzly410 wrote:
Sokes wrote:
https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1439303

viewtopic.php?t=1409013


OMG the Turkey one.... :faint:


Interestingly, you could still reply to that thread! :lol:

It was locked a while ago
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by Antaras
Wed Dec 09, 2020 6:43 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is this Emirates new premium economy seat?
Replies: 37
Views: 7935

Re: Is this Emirates new premium economy seat?

To Me personally Premium Economy just isn't worth it, i remember Boarding SQ and walking through Premium Thinking this is not worth and extra £1500 on top of the economy price. It’s worth the price if you’re flying on the A350ULR and get one of those throne seats in the back. It even more worth whe...

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by Antaras
Tue Dec 08, 2020 11:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Hawaiian to start HNL-MCO/AUS/ONT and LGB-OGG
Replies: 3
Views: 567

Re: Hawaiian to start HNL-MCO/AUS/ONT and LGB-OGG

Double thread. Mods please lock or delete.

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