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by N1611B
Tue Sep 03, 2019 5:40 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
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Re: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop

Very little difference these days. Doesn't change my point either way. Against a mountain of evidence that basic gun control measures work and overwhelming public support to expand background checks and close private sales loopholes.. How is that working in Chicago, DC and Baltimore? They don't, so...

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by N1611B
Mon Sep 02, 2019 9:25 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
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No one on these boards is more conservative as me, and I have been here 15 years. However, let's be real. America is too violent, immature, and too broken of a society to have this kind of free access to guns. True, people will start using knives, hammers and other objects as weapons, but nothing k...

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by N1611B
Mon Sep 02, 2019 7:39 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
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But far worse than 0 dead, which tends to be the case for countries with regulations for guns. If a mass shooting starts in the first place, the prevention is already a failure. It is no coincidence that the only developed country to have such high death rates from guns and the only one with such r...

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by N1611B
Mon Sep 02, 2019 7:23 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 16514

Re: The Texas Special

Kestrel333 wrote:
N1611B wrote:
Redd wrote:

20+ dead people is an example of a successful result for you?


It is better than 30+ people dead. Most mass shooters kill themselves or surrender as soon as they meet armed resistance.


Most people without access to firearms don’t shoot anyone.


Nor do most people with access to firearms.

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by N1611B
Mon Sep 02, 2019 6:39 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 16514

Re: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop

Then what is the point of these "feel good" measures? That is the argument the right always has with "gun free zones". If the government refuses to do anything, like enforce existing laws, what is the point of having those laws? We will simply continue to have mass shootings and...

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by N1611B
Mon Sep 02, 2019 6:30 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 16514

Re: The Texas Special

Or no regular mass shootings if you tackle the gun problem. Clearly Americans can't handle their guns, there are other countries with high gun ownership that don't have mass shooting problems. The question is what do Americans prefer, their second amendment or people not being killed on a mass scal...

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by N1611B
Mon Sep 02, 2019 6:20 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 16514

Re: The Texas Special

20+ dead people is an example of a successful result for you? It is better than 30+ people dead. Most mass shooters kill themselves or surrender as soon as they meet armed resistance. Or no regular mass shootings if you tackle the gun problem. Clearly Americans can't handle their guns, there are ot...

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by N1611B
Mon Sep 02, 2019 6:12 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 16514

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20+ dead people is an example of a successful result for you? It is better than 30+ people dead. Most mass shooters kill themselves or surrender as soon as they meet armed resistance. But far worse than 0 dead, which tends to be the case for countries with regulations for guns. If a mass shooting s...

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by N1611B
Mon Sep 02, 2019 6:06 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 16514

Re: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop

No one on these boards is more conservative as me, and I have been here 15 years. However, let's be real. America is too violent, immature, and too broken of a society to have this kind of free access to guns. True, people will start using knives, hammers and other objects as weapons, but nothing k...

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by N1611B
Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:40 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 16514

Re: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop

Most of those burglaries occurred when no one was home right? So if those people owned guns, guess what, now we have an unregistered gun in the hands of a criminal. How does that affect you and your families safety? Then there is the fact that living in a house with a gun increases your odds of dea...

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by N1611B
Mon Sep 02, 2019 4:33 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 16514

Re: The Texas Special

Actually everything has a context, so that’s not how this works, especially when using disciplined comparisons of differential data. Within the context of high casualty shootings, as was shared in another thread by a CDC/FBI dataset, there is a very high risk (over 70%) the firearms used are high p...

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by N1611B
Mon Sep 02, 2019 4:19 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 16514

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Proper safety practices? What proper safety practices? Barely any are enforced and even mentioning them sends the NRA brownshirts into a frothing frenzy "MUH RITEZ". I wouldn't go calling people 'clueless' or 'out of touch' when you think rappers are the problem. Yes, proper safety practi...

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by N1611B
Mon Sep 02, 2019 4:16 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 16514

Re: The Texas Special

So the NRA appointed majority decided the last four words are the only ones that matter. Got it. The SCOTUS is not appointed by the NRA. Also, the law of the land is the law of the land. You can complain about it all you want, but that is not going to change. If you don't like the 2A, you are free ...

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by N1611B
Mon Sep 02, 2019 3:35 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 16514

Re: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop

Proper safety practices? What proper safety practices? Barely any are enforced and even mentioning them sends the NRA brownshirts into a frothing frenzy "MUH RITEZ". I wouldn't go calling people 'clueless' or 'out of touch' when you think rappers are the problem. Yes, proper safety practi...

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by N1611B
Mon Sep 02, 2019 3:30 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 16514

Re: The Texas Special

But where were the good guys with guns? For a state that's flooded with guns, they seem to never be able to prevent these. The shooter who killed 20+ people at a church in Texas a couple of years ago was shot by a civilian armed with an AR-15. But don't let facts ruin a good narrative. 20+ dead peo...

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by N1611B
Mon Sep 02, 2019 3:28 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 16514

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You ever been to Paris? You realize that 90 people were killed in one spot there alone (the Bataclan), which dwarves the largest mass shooting in US History? How about Charlie Hebdo's staff getting executed? You also realize that AK-47s are illegal in Paris, right? You can't compare a full blown te...

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by N1611B
Mon Sep 02, 2019 10:15 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 16514

Re: The Texas Special

Sure that’s a large round number on paper but it’s .0007% of the US population - so it’s more an emotional value than a real threat value. Nobody said anything about restricting your ability to defend your family. But reducing availability of weapons with high rates of fire and large magazines? Abs...

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by N1611B
Mon Sep 02, 2019 10:09 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 16514

Re: The Texas Special

Unless it was Afghanistan, Rio or Sudan I'd wager $1000 you never read about mass shooting in any place you visited across all of your travels. The problem isn't black people, it's near zero regulation of gun and ammo production, sales and ownership. Trump can work to eliminate Browns and Blacks al...

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by N1611B
Mon Sep 02, 2019 10:08 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 16514

Re: The Texas Special

What was the case settled by SCOTUS based on the first four words of the Second Amendment? The only reason we can only have "feel good measures" is because the NRA bankrolled Republicans will not allow anything else. Most recently, Heller v DC. The SCOTUS ruled that individuals have the r...

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by N1611B
Mon Sep 02, 2019 10:06 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 16514

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I know of one - please tell us about the rest of the shooters stopped by lawful gun owners. Links would be especially appreciated - and easy for you to find. Thanks! More importantly, as the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported in 2013, almost all major studies on defensive gun uses ...

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by N1611B
Mon Sep 02, 2019 10:04 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 16514

Re: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop

Most of those burglaries occurred when no one was home right? So if those people owned guns, guess what, now we have an unregistered gun in the hands of a criminal. How does that affect you and your families safety? Then there is the fact that living in a house with a gun increases your odds of dea...

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by N1611B
Mon Sep 02, 2019 2:56 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 16514

Re: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop

* An estimated 3.7 million burglaries occurred each year on average from 2003 to 2007. *A household member was present in roughly 1 million burglaries and became victims of violent crimes in 266,560 burglaries. Source: https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/ascii/vdhb.txt Don't worry, people. Spar will be ...

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by N1611B
Mon Sep 02, 2019 2:39 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 16514

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You don't need to belong to a militia to own a firearm. That argument had long been settled by the SCOTUS. Anyone who can read and understand the phrase "well regulated militia" is aware that the previous SCOTUS rulings are standing on very shaky ground. Unless they want to quite dishones...

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by N1611B
Mon Sep 02, 2019 1:40 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 16514

Re: The Texas Special

Alcohol, tobacco, and marijuana are not allowed in high schools, yet kids use those things in high schools so why bother to regulate them? That is the argument you are making. We have a problem but let's just add to the problem. What "well regulated militia" did these mass murderers belon...

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by N1611B
Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:14 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 16514

Re: The Texas Special

There have been numerous instances lately of shooters being stopped by lawful gun owners. I know of one - please tell us about the rest of the shooters stopped by lawful gun owners. Links would be especially appreciated - and easy for you to find. Thanks! More importantly, as the Centers for Diseas...

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by N1611B
Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:10 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 16514

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Except of course, they aren’t buying them in the first place. Thus, resolving the problem requires policing. As for “Blue ISIS”, that’s what people have taken to calling police of late, which undermines the policing process. As do early release programs. Who isn't buying them? The Missouri gun deal...

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by N1611B
Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:07 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 16514

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One guy one time so that is proof that we need fewer gun laws. Where was the "good guy with a gun" in Orlando, Sandy Hook, Las Vegas, El Paso, Gilroy, Columbine, Lakeland, Aurora The right loves to point to Chicago as proof that gun laws don't work but where are the good guys with guns in...

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by N1611B
Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:06 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 16514

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Gang and inner-city violence. Remove the urban impoverished areas from fbe equation and the USA would stack up well next to the other countries on that chart. Where are the analysis supporting that claim? It would be easy to parse the available data to prove such a claim if it were true and I'm sur...

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by N1611B
Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:04 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 16514

Re: The Texas Special

I've spent years overseas, but thanks for your concern. Unless it was Afghanistan, Rio or Sudan I'd wager $1000 you never read about mass shooting in any place you visited across all of your travels. The problem isn't black people, it's near zero regulation of gun and ammo production, sales and own...

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by N1611B
Sun Sep 01, 2019 11:59 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 16514

Re: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop

Using Chicago is such a canard given 9 other cities, and most of them in red states like LA, AL, TN, and MO is far worse. In fact New aorleans is double that of Chicago. https://247wallst.com/special-report/2019/08/04/cities-with-the-most-gun-violence/ The cities that account for the gun violence i...

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by N1611B
Sun Sep 01, 2019 11:57 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 16514

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What a bizarre fishbowl view of the world - I strongly recommend a passport and a few trips to other developed countries - and not just the tourist zones. I've spent years overseas, but thanks for your concern. Doing what? By your observations you probably spent years in hotels or airport transit l...

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by N1611B
Sun Sep 01, 2019 1:26 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 16514

Re: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop

Using Chicago is such a canard given 9 other cities, and most of them in red states like LA, AL, TN, and MO is far worse. In fact New aorleans is double that of Chicago. https://247wallst.com/special-report/2019/08/04/cities-with-the-most-gun-violence/ The cities that account for the gun violence i...

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by N1611B
Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:23 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 16514

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Nope, sorry, patently false. Ireland, Australia, NZ the UK, Netherlands, etc. all have gangs, drugs, and areas as economically disadvantaged as US ‘inner cities’. Have you seen/been to north Dublin, the UK’s northern rust belt or southern port cities ravaged by drugs, Holendrecht outside Amsterdam,...

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by N1611B
Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:20 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 16514

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Completely illogical argument - the idea is to reduce death rates, not eliminate them entirely. All of the other developed countries in the chart have gangs, drug and mental health issues, even illegal means to obtain firearms - such as the only illegal guns in Japan belonging to yakuza...yet the r...

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by N1611B
Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:59 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 16514

Re: The Texas Special

your right, maybe it has nothing to do with political parties and everything to do with gun laws Yes, now we just have to take that message mainstream. These new guns laws go into effect today. https://spectrumlocalnews.com/tx/san-antonio/news/2019/08/28/gun-laws-loosen-starting-sunday--what-you-ne...

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by N1611B
Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:57 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 16514

Re: The Texas Special

The shooter who killed 20+ people at a church in Texas a couple of years ago was shot by a civilian armed with an AR-15. But don't let facts ruin a good narrative. If 20+ people get killed before your "good guy with a gun" steps in... that isn't solving the problem... :roll: He died of a ...

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by N1611B
Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:56 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 16514

Re: The Texas Special

Texas is a very large, very populous state. California has also had many high-profile mass shootings despite its incredibly restrictive gun laws. California is also a very large, very populous state. The shootings have more to do with population than they have to do with gun laws. We have far more ...

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by N1611B
Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:54 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 16514

Re: The Texas Special

But where were the good guys with guns? For a state that's flooded with guns, they seem to never be able to prevent these. The shooter who killed 20+ people at a church in Texas a couple of years ago was shot by a civilian armed with an AR-15. But don't let facts ruin a good narrative. One guy one ...

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by N1611B
Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:51 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 16514

Re: The Texas Special

The shooter who killed 20+ people at a church in Texas a couple of years ago was shot by a civilian armed with an AR-15. But don't let facts ruin a good narrative. Those facts are irrelevant since: 1. The guy wasn't deterred from shooting (you know...because if a bad guy with a gun sees a good guy ...

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by N1611B
Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:49 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 16514

Re: The Texas Special

An amazing thing about these shootings is that although as Super80Fan so succinctly points out, while some of them occur in California, Connecticut, and Colorado; all these shootings involve guns. If only there was some common issue or thing; something we could address to reduce the numbers of such...

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by N1611B
Sun Sep 01, 2019 3:07 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 16514

Re: The Texas Special

einsteinboricua wrote:
But where were the good guys with guns? For a state that's flooded with guns, they seem to never be able to prevent these.


The shooter who killed 20+ people at a church in Texas a couple of years ago was shot by a civilian armed with an AR-15. But don't let facts ruin a good narrative.

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by N1611B
Sun Sep 01, 2019 3:06 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 16514

Re: The Texas Special

M564038 wrote:
Yes! Gotta have those guns to keep the country safe! It is working out really good!
USA! USA! USA!


You are free to not own a weapon, just like I'm free to own one.

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by N1611B
Sun Sep 01, 2019 3:05 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 16514

Re: The Texas Special

From late news reports: At least 21 shot, including 3 cops, 5 shot are dead. The suspect is dead, not sure if by his own hand or by police actions. The suspect was a 30 year old White Male. He had initially been pulled over by police in his car, likely for a moving vehicle violation or perhaps he w...

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by N1611B
Sun Sep 01, 2019 3:03 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: At least 5 dead in West Texas shooting after traffic stop
Replies: 351
Views: 16514

Re: The Texas Special

An amazing thing about these shootings is that although as Super80Fan so succinctly points out, while some of them occur in California, Connecticut, and Colorado; all these shootings involve guns. If only there was some common issue or thing; something we could address to reduce the numbers of such...

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by N1611B
Wed Aug 28, 2019 10:56 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: America the Mediocre
Replies: 179
Views: 12709

Re: America the Mediocre

Of course no one wants to believe their kid/uncle/dad whomever 'didn't do it' when it comes to police trouble! Most people here who've been pulled over by cops give the 'I didn't know, officer' bullshit excuse! I once answered the 'where are you headed to in such hurry, fella'..with 'Trying to make...

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by N1611B
Wed Aug 28, 2019 10:54 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: America the Mediocre
Replies: 179
Views: 12709

Re: America the Mediocre

I think you're the one I need to buy a plane ticket for, you enjoy police states so I can just buy you a ticket to China or North Korea where you can suck up to the military/police forces all you want. I lived in Orlando for a few years, I've already gave the middle finger to more OPD officers than...

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by N1611B
Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:48 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: America the Mediocre
Replies: 179
Views: 12709

Re: America the Mediocre

Well post your findings vs asking anyone to accept your 'words' as truth... BN747 Sure. "The ongoing Post project has found that police have shot and killed 3,309 people since 2015, or more than twice as many fatal shootings per year as the average reported by the FBI. Of those killed, 231, or...

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by N1611B
Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:24 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: America the Mediocre
Replies: 179
Views: 12709

Re: America the Mediocre

That's like saying 'I hope you never need a computer repair or I hope you never need a firefighter or I hope you never need a flight...etc' It is the job of those offering 'the service', they're paid to do their jobs. They are there for that reason and that reason only Cops too! They don't do it fo...

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by N1611B
Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:15 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Andy Ngo witnesses Patriot Prayer planning violence, leaves that part out for some reason
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Re: Andy Ngo witnesses Patriot Prayer planning violence, leaves that part out for some reason

Nope, just demonstrating that these conservative 'journalists' only report whatever supports how they feel - no different than MSNBC. Yup. The "media" as a whole sucks in this country. Everyone has an agenda, and the media is able to pick and choose which stories to tell people about base...

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by N1611B
Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:10 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: America the Mediocre
Replies: 179
Views: 12709

Re: America the Mediocre

As I mentioned before, I hope you never need one. That's like saying 'I hope you never need a computer repair or I hope you never need a firefighter or I hope you never need a flight...etc' It is the job of those offering 'the service', they're paid to do their jobs. They are there for that reason ...

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