2000first, ATA used to operate flights into the UK on behalf of TravelCity and its parent company. Flights where into Manchester and Gatwick daily through the summer season <acronym title="Manchester - International (Ringway) (MAN / EGCC), United Kingdom">MAN</acronym> (or <acronym title="London - G...
Jump to postNot going to be a popular one - but the 777 wins for me - proof that a fat 767 does exist. Subway should use it in their next adverts as an example of dieting - here is the 777 12 months ago - here it is after 12 months on a subway diet.... Before <br><center><font color="#EEEEEE" size="1" face="ARI...
Jump to postShenzen, Thanks for the link - any chance you could look up 'pedant' I would be grateful (JOKE !!!!). Phil and Dave, As Shenzen's link points out - using the term 'phenominal' implies the discounts where remarkable or extraordinary - however in the current climate both Boeing and Airbus are giving '...
Jump to postdefine 'phenominal' in terms of discount that is - I know what the word means
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Shenzen,
I know both Boeing and Airbus are giving large discounts - however I just wanted to find a source for the 'phenominal' part of FlyKal's statement.
If you could define 'phenominal' as well that would be useful.
Regards,
RickB
Flykal,
Do you have any links to show their phenominal discounts please?
RickB
cainen, If you get the chance when you check in - ask how much it will cost to upgrade to their premiair gold section - 2-3-2 layout (much wider seats) as opposed to 3-3-3 - you get much more legroom, free drinks (including alcohol etc. especially since they will charge you nearly £3 for a bottle of...
Jump to postActually - I can see some merit in it - how better to repair US-French relations than ordering A380's ?? It could be an olive branch from Bush to gain support in the UN security council for the latest Iraq resolution. In the meantime - I have ordered my ice skates for Hades since im fairly sure I wi...
Jump to postAMS is pretty easy to naviate - much easier infact than <acronym title="London - Heathrow (LHR / EGLL), United Kingdom">LHR</acronym> or even <acronym title="Frankfurt - Main (Rhein-Main AFB) (FRA / FRF / EDDF), Germany">FRA</acronym>. However I am not keen on <acronym title="Amsterdam - Schiphol (A...
Jump to postRayChuang, I dont think the B-47 can be considered that revolutionary - many of its ideas (with the exception of its size) where taken from the german WWII research. The ME262 was the prime candidate - Swept wings and underwing mounted engines where both features of that aircraft. Modern airliners m...
Jump to postLAS has a very open luggage area - as does <acronym title="Atlanta - The William B Hartsfield International (ATL / KATL), USA - Georgia">ATL</acronym>. On domestic flights I got bored waiting for the carousel to start and went outside for a cigarette - had no problems coming back in to pick up my lu...
Jump to postJust to add something to this conversation - One question (a serious one !!) how do people think the industry would be different if there had been no 707 ? Would Douglas be the main player? Convair? DeHavilland? Vickers?
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Bluewave 707 - now I read it back it does sound snippy - that wasn't my intention sorry !!
Toady,
Well said mate !!!
RickB
Shankly,
Its gone a bit quiet after that last post of yours
RickB
ILoveORD, Thanks for the clarification !! Personally I dont understand the issue here (other than obvious cost implications to airlines flying to the US - but since it would apply to all airlines - it will be the passengers rather than the airlines who will end up carrying the costs). You have to ha...
Jump to postILoveORD, Is the US requirement for passenger information on flights to the US an international law or a US based one ? If its a US based law then technically there is no legal requirement for overseas airlines to adopt it (other than they presumably would be denied landing rights in the US)? Either...
Jump to postJust listened to it - very good !!
Have to say I have a new respect for Tony Benn after listening to it - I hadn't realised how much he had done in the 60's to support the British aviation industry.
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CanadaEH,
Surely thats fox news your talking about
RickB
Bluewave 707, How did the comet benefit from the 707 - it was in service well before the 707, it had non stop transatlantic crossings before the 707 and through the UK government even provided some technical data on metal fatigue to the world which benefited all subsequent airliners. The point is - ...
Jump to postEasyjet wanting a 20 minute turn around at <acronym title="London - Heathrow (LHR / EGLL), United Kingdom">LHR</acronym> <img src="/discussions/graphics/winkani.gif" ALT="Wink/being sarcastic"> Thats funny - it usually takes close to that to taxi to the gate once you've landed - what where the...
Jump to postGuys, Ultimately it depends on how you define 'important'. I chose Concorde because of the technology involved which has filtered down to other aircraft and other markets, also because of its 'unique' status - even now 30 years down the road - it has not been surpassed, beaten or even matched. The 7...
Jump to postIslandhopper, The problem with the 707 is that it was in no way groundbreaking - it did exactly what it said in the tin - nothing more. Was it a successful aircraft - most definately - but was it important - not really - if Boeing hadn't of made it there where other aircraft that would of taken its ...
Jump to postConcorde - the 707 was not the first jetliner and had many compatriots at the time including the convairs and DC8 not forgetting the Comet, VC10, etc. The 707 was a very good aircraft but it did not redefine air travel (as did the Comet and the 747). Concorde was groundbreaking at a number of levels...
Jump to postCO are okay - the killer for me is paying for alcohol on international flights - if you want to make sure you dont have to put your hand in your pocket in the air - choose <acronym title="British Airways">BA</acronym> !! Crew are generally friendlier on <acronym title="British Airways">BA</acronym> ...
Jump to postMXP,
As long as you dont mind the cramped conditions its fine - IFE is excellent - seat comfort terrible - 10 abreast in a 777 is not fun for more than a couple of hours.
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Behramjee, The conversation about range was concerning the non <acronym title="DHL Worldwide Express (Belgium)">ER</acronym> version of the 773. It's 6000nm range means that all continental US destinations are within range from <acronym title="London - Heathrow (LHR / EGLL), United Kingdom">LHR</acr...
Jump to postConcordeBoy, You are right in stating that <acronym title="British Airways">BA</acronym> changed an outstanding order for aircraft with 211's to the 777's with <acronym title="Royal Air Force (United Kingdom)">RR</acronym> engines - however the original order for the <acronym title="Trans Asia Airwa...
Jump to postIf <acronym title="British Airways">BA</acronym> where that enamoured with their <acronym title="Trans Asia Airways (Taiwan)">GE</acronym> powered 772ER's - why have they switched to <acronym title="Royal Air Force (United Kingdom)">RR</acronym> on the same aircraft ?? Surely it would of made sense ...
Jump to postBA would be likely purchasers of the A380 in the future - as stated they have a number of routes which could profitably use it at the moment including Narita, Jo'burg, Sydney, Los Angeles and several other Asian routes, etc. <acronym title="British Airways">BA</acronym> don't just fly to North Ameri...
Jump to postDoorsToManual, I have flown <acronym title="Singapore Airlines">SQ</acronym> and enjoyed them - can't comment on Korean, Asiana or ANZ since I've never flown them, however my comment about Emirates wasn't a positive one - 4 long haul flights and every single one was awful !! However I still go back ...
Jump to postDoorsToManual, Who exactly is much better than <acronym title="British Airways">BA</acronym> on this route? I have tried a number of different airlines to Asia etc. and failed to come up with anyone better - Singapore and Malaysia are pretty good - but the others seem to come up well short !! Dont g...
Jump to postCan't say many positive things about Gatwick - The south terminal is hateful - as was mentioned before its like the charter flight terminal from hell !! Trying to clear immigration in the mornings is a nightmare - the queues back up so much with overseas visitors that it gets impossible to get to th...
Jump to postNtspelich, On intra European flights - your passport will be checked and you will have to proceed through customs - as others have pointed out - there is a specific 'blue' channel through customs if your flight originated in another Eu country. Usually the customs side of things involves nothing mor...
Jump to postBoeingGoingGone, Here is the problem - the US military provides the specification for the product - not the design. This request is then sent out to the players in the manufacturing field to come up with a suitable design which meets the parameters set out in the specification. Usually the specifica...
Jump to postDynkrisolo, I am not ignoring your PWC/EPI examples - I simply dont know enough about it to comment - but if you read my other posts you will see that I am against anything that is anti-competitive be it from Europe or the US - if your right in what you say then im in full agreement with you. Unlike...
Jump to postUAL777,
If thats true then the 7e7 is stuffed from birth !!! Composites in most case have been chosen because they are stonger and resist stress distortions far longer than alloys do.
RickB
Dynkrisolo, The problem is that these issue are just as likely to be exposed in Europe (or at least certainly in the UK) as they are in the US. The UK has the worlds most intrusive press - and the most critical of any government. You used the AV8B as an example of the US importing aircraft - the fac...
Jump to postDynkrisolo, The AV8B is a perfect example of the US wanting to buy a foreign aircraft but refusing to do so. They only bought the aircraft on the basis that it was manufactured (under licence) by McD. The problem was at the time they current re-invent the harrier - and even now with the JSF - the VT...
Jump to postDynkrisolo, I have absolutely no problem with buying US products over anyone else's product - I am a firm believer that if the product is the best or if the price is the differentiator then the cheapest should be purchased. I don't know about the specific case regarding PWC and MTU but I personally ...
Jump to postActually the french government do operate US aircraft. They have a number of E3's purchased only a few years ago.
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Guys,
So would you be more supportive of an Airbus bid for the tanker contract if Airbus set up a subsidiary based in the US that built the aircraft ? and obviously paid taxes in the US ?
RickB
N79969, No im not saying your a xenophobe - relax dude !! Just saying that the sweeping statement you made was a little <img src="/discussions/graphics/winkani.gif" ALT="Wink/being sarcastic"> xenophobic. How does the Airbus sham loans differ from overpriced 767's, public funded R&D, theft of ...
Jump to postN79969,
Do you honestly believe the whole of Europe is corrupt whilst the US is a paragon of honesty?
Its xenophobic attitudes like that that dont do anyone any favours - as Jack Nicholson once said 'why cant we all, just get along'.
RickB
Wow, Obviously you guys wont want the US to buy the JSF then as its powered by a foreign engine !!! Think of all those tax dollars leaving the country !!! As for the article - I dont have any complaints if the airforce and Boeing did collude as suggested. I just wish we did that more here - rather t...
Jump to postIf an ETOPS flight (or really any twin) has a problem and ends up with an engine out - the remaining engine is run at max continuous thrust for potentially a number of hours. Obviously this isnt the same as firewalling the engine - but do any specific checks have to be made on the remaining engine b...
Jump to postActually no - interest is accrued as soon as the loan is taken out. Repayment of the capital does not take place until the agreed terms have been met be it the aircraft making a profit etc. However the interest on the loan is accrued and repayable by Airbus as and when the loan is taken out. Royalti...
Jump to postN79969.
If the loans are not repayable until the A380 makes a profit why are they concerned about it now???
Its because they pay the interest on the loan from day one !!! So its not a free loan at all - infact the longer the loan goes unpaid the more return on the initial loan amount.
RickB
CX flyboy,
Thanks very much - thats exactly the information I wanted !!
Cheers
RickB
N79969, How can the A332 be considered an oddball in the A330/A340 fleet - it has pretty much full commonality with the A333 - with the exception of being a few frames shorter and a taller tailfin. The link is a bit weird too - 'The A330-200 is the smallest A330 variant. It arrived too late to provi...
Jump to postA couple of questions - what speed is taken into consideration with ETOPS? Presumably with an engine out altitude and therefore speed are reduced ? In which case obviously the distance reachable within 90/120/180/240 minutes is reduced from normal cruising speed? Also - one last point - on an A330, ...
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