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by VC10er
Fri Dec 20, 2019 1:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 708361

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Does anyone have photos of the refreshed 752 interiors? I think they're a great ride EWR-SFO/LAX, but they were getting unacceptably ratty on the inside. I was on one in First about 4/5 weeks ago. I cannot recall if it was a transcontinental route or Denver...I “think” I took pics! Hoping that you ...

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by VC10er
Thu Dec 19, 2019 4:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aegean new livery
Replies: 180
Views: 54246

Re: Aegean new livery

Airlines do everything they can to cut costs nowadays and brands are getting more and more minimalist. But some people still get so angry when another airline goes eurowhite. The only people who care about airplane liveries are us. The general public just board through the jetbrige barely looking a...

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by VC10er
Thu Dec 19, 2019 10:43 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 708361

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

If these rumors of more 77W’s come true (and I’ve lost count of how many more 789’s are definitely coming) and if UA firms up the additional 787-10’s, 50 A321XLR’s, and when ALL the used Airbus NB’s are in service and all the CRJ550’s are done, all E175’s AND the 737MAX’s are flying: then minus the ...

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by VC10er
Thu Dec 19, 2019 10:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 708361

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Does anyone have photos of the refreshed 752 interiors? I think they're a great ride EWR-SFO/LAX, but they were getting unacceptably ratty on the inside. I was on one in First about 4/5 weeks ago. I cannot recall if it was a transcontinental route or Denver...I “think” I took pics! First clue is th...

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by VC10er
Thu Dec 19, 2019 12:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 708361

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

EWR V JFK is not a proxy for UA V DL for me! Maybe not for you, but any discussion in that vein is like chum in the water. Mention something, anything favorable about EWR Terminal C, and right on cue, we'll hear about how it is "decrepit", "cramped", "dated", "dum...

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by VC10er
Wed Dec 18, 2019 10:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 708361

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

The EWR vs. JFK discussion (essentially a proxy for UA vs. DL) is tiresome and worn out, especially by certain posters who recycle strong opinions over and over for years. Suggest deletion. EWR V JFK is not a proxy for UA V DL for me! True, I never fly Delta I would love to try out the Delta One se...

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by VC10er
Wed Dec 18, 2019 10:30 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 708361

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

I don’t know how many UA aircraft arrive everyday but EWR, ORD, IAH & IAD do have multiple flights, United as many as 6 nonstops a day from EWR. I know they stopped SFO, but IF I was king (and money didn’t matter that much) I would give my SF & LA & DEN FF’s a good option (especially SF...

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by VC10er
Wed Dec 18, 2019 9:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 708361

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

OHHHH! NOW I KNOW WHAT THE OPEN ROOF LAVS YOU ARE REFERRING TO!!! I have not used one of those temporary restrooms, but I have passed them. Not only do they look like temporary structures, they say so on the outer walls. it is SO OBVIOUS that they are temporary: if you look to the side of them ther...

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by VC10er
Tue Dec 17, 2019 7:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 708361

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

When I fly United into a non-hub domestic airport, unless it is a smaller nice airport like Tampa, I often find that the return flight experience stinks in terms of UA not having its own “gates and seating and no UC” - one example is Miami! I love Miami and go about 5x a year. But I dread the return...

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by VC10er
Tue Dec 17, 2019 6:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 708361

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

??? Terminal C at EWR sucks? How so? Today TC is one of the best “large and old” renovated Terminals in the USA. Obviously brand NEW airports are often better. Compared to the old days, it’s attractive enough upon entering, and a breeze today to go from check-in, through a massively improved securi...

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by VC10er
Mon Dec 16, 2019 12:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 708361

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Questions! I have been on 1 752 in First Class that was refurbished. It’s clearly not as shabby (but VERY FAR) from a “wow!” - which is perfectly fine knowing that 50 A321XLR’s are coming in 4 years. I understand that United has so much to do on their hands and Jeanie isn’t there to blink her eyes! ...

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by VC10er
Mon Dec 16, 2019 12:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 708361

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

I was born in the 1980s and flew CO out of EWR and begged my parents to fly other airlines because the experience sucked so much (for the most part.) C-3 wasn't opened yet, flights were always delayed or on ATR's, planes always run down or broken. I don't think it was until around 2000 as to when I...

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by VC10er
Sun Dec 15, 2019 11:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aegean new livery
Replies: 180
Views: 54246

Re: Aegean new livery

I would assume that one reason AEGEAN is using the “OLYMPIC” name and logo is for legal trademark protection. The same way GOL in Brazil has some aircraft with VARIG livery. It gets to “Use it or lose it” laws! I’m not 100% sure how similar trademark laws differ between the EU and USA or any other ...

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by VC10er
Sun Dec 15, 2019 4:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aegean new livery
Replies: 180
Views: 54246

Re: Aegean new livery

I would assume that one reason AEGEAN is using the “OLYMPIC” name and logo is for legal trademark protection. The same way GOL in Brazil has some aircraft with VARIG livery. It gets to “Use it or lose it” laws! I’m not 100% sure how similar trademark laws differ between the EU and USA or any other c...

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by VC10er
Sun Dec 15, 2019 2:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 708361

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

The HD 772As probably won't make it to 2027 (I still expect them to be replaced by higher density 764s backfilled by 789s on long haul routes) but the 77Es will generally have lower cycles than comparably aged 757s. Even if the CO 757s have spent 15 years mostly on TATL flights, that is still more ...

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by VC10er
Sun Dec 15, 2019 1:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 708361

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

United has to have a ROI (return on investment) on these aircraft interiors. As someone else stated the 764s will still be in the fleet after many of the 763s are retired, it then makes perfect sense to start with the 763s. Also what you may not know is for many of the 763s (especially the older mo...

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by VC10er
Sat Dec 07, 2019 12:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United orders 50 A321 XLR, defers A350's to 2027
Replies: 481
Views: 85441

Re: United orders 50 A321 XLR, defers A350's to 2027

Thanks everyone! And to all the sky warriors of the future- I envy you all. The world is a fabulous place, and you will get flying machines I will probably miss!! !

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by VC10er
Sat Dec 07, 2019 12:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United orders 50 A321 XLR, defers A350's to 2027
Replies: 481
Views: 85441

Re: United orders 50 A321 XLR, defers A350's to 2027

I WISH I WAS 35 AGAIN! (23 years ago) Starting at age 34/35 I was flying on average 200,000 to 250,000 miles a year given the job I had. The bulk of that flying (about 50%) were to 3 destinations: NYC to LHR/GVA/GIG. The other half were a total combination of almost anything: NYC to NRT/SYD/SIN/HKG/...

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by VC10er
Fri Dec 06, 2019 9:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 708361

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

What happens when the HD772’s wear out? Obviously UA requires a good number of large people movers.
I cannot see (but maybe) UA buying a new aircraft to replace them. A 76J would seem like an expensive option.

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by VC10er
Thu Dec 05, 2019 1:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United orders 50 A321 XLR, defers A350's to 2027
Replies: 481
Views: 85441

Re: United orders 50 A321 XLR, defers A350's to 2027

I’m sure I can look it up somewhere, but given the A321XLR’s range, from EWR and IAD how deep into Europe will she fly? Can she make Eastern Europe non-stop? Can she make GIG? If UA sticks with a premium heavy configuration with about 16 Polaris-like lie flats, some PE & Y+ & Y does that lig...

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by VC10er
Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United orders 50 A321 XLR, defers A350's to 2027
Replies: 481
Views: 85441

Re: United orders 50 A321 XLR

Ok, what will be the Front Polaris-Like hard product on these A321XLR’s?
Can these A321XLR’s do EWR/GIG NONSTOP? Perfect size! Perfect fuel savings.
Happy Camper here!
(And the livery does look nice in the image on United HUB!)

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by VC10er
Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:43 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 708361

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Thanks! Yes, many, many European cities have the 764. I know they were delivered around 2000, but inside they do not have a competitive hard product. I know that some high premium routes like Zurich, Geneva will get a refurbished 763, but it seems to me that from a European perspective that UA has ...

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by VC10er
Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pictures surfacing of 777X Sept Test Failure
Replies: 308
Views: 61924

Re: Pictures surfacing of 777X Sept Test Failure

I am an aviation enthusiast that understands very little about an airframe’s engineering. But I know a little bit from reading threats here on a.net, otherwise I am part of the general population except I am probably within the top 2 or 3% of people who fly well over 100,000 miles a year (and have d...

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by VC10er
Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:38 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: UNITED AND “CLEAR”
Replies: 1
Views: 378

UNITED AND “CLEAR”

United is making a big deal about having CLEAR at each of their domestic hubs. I use it, it is great!

But are Delta and American doing (or have done) the same deal with CLEAR at their hubs?

Thanks

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by VC10er
Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:34 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 708361

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

I know that the 764’s are last in line for refurbishment. (I believe UA has 14? Or 16? I get confused between UA & DL as the fleet size is almost the same) - what surprises me though is that for such a small fleet type, the 764 pops up on SO MANY routes! So my question is, once they get Polaris...

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by VC10er
Sun Dec 01, 2019 6:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 708361

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

I know that the 764’s are last in line for refurbishment. (I believe UA has 14? Or 16? I get confused between UA & DL as the fleet size is almost the same) - what surprises me though is that for such a small fleet type, the 764 pops up on SO MANY routes! So my question is, once they get Polaris/...

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by VC10er
Thu Nov 28, 2019 2:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why not this for Boeing's line up?
Replies: 100
Views: 16150

Re: Why not this for Boeing's line up?

Perhaps I don’t understand. I “assume” that the 737MAX will eventually have everything fixed, and will be a safe aircraft. She might never be the latest A320 series, but she will serve the airlines as expected. (Is there still enough doubt that every single MAX frame built will never fly? No more MA...

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by VC10er
Wed Nov 27, 2019 3:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 708361

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

FYI, it was designed by PriestmanGoode who also has done all of UAL’s other recent branding including the new cabins. https://www.priestmangoode.com/project/the-new-united-livery/ Gosh! How did I miss that! I never even thought to look as PriestmanGoode is not a branding agency (branding as in iden...

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by VC10er
Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: United seeking SFO-MNL route
Replies: 80
Views: 13201

Re: Rumor: United seeking SFO-MNL route

Odd, I just looked at routes to Manila from EWR on UA.com and seeing a 772 with ALL ECONOMY seats nose to tail - UA doesn’t have any 772’s in an all Y configuration (do they?)

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by VC10er
Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 708361

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

It really looks like no designer with the ability to craft a redesign of an airline livery worked on it. No real branding agency has ever been mentioned... FYI, it was designed by PriestmanGoode who also has done all of UAL’s other recent branding including the new cabins. https://www.priestmangood...

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by VC10er
Sun Nov 24, 2019 3:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet Repaint Thread
Replies: 267
Views: 65107

Re: United Fleet Repaint Thread

https://i.imgur.com/hNTg2yL.png Credit Matt Cawby SO MUCH BETTER ON A 777-300! Brighter! At least when she lands or is parked alongside other international airlines UNITED will look fresher. I did wish that some of the finer details of the Polaris cabin made its way onto the livery. PriestmanGoode ...

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by VC10er
Sun Nov 24, 2019 2:55 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 708361

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJx9REyUYAAaWzG?format=jpg&name=large https://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/1196969339275997185?s=20 Yuck. Looks the worst yet on the 77W. Just looks so hodgepodge, and there's too much white with the proportions of the 77W. Agreed, talking with a group of friends, it...

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by VC10er
Wed Nov 20, 2019 2:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Updating Their Livery
Replies: 124
Views: 26986

Re: American Airlines Updating Their Livery

You cannot compare the new UA livery to AA (well you can if you just wish to personally let everyone know your personal opinion- but you can’t say one is better than the other as a “FACT” because it’s subjective) but they are entirely different from each other from a brand positioning POV. AA: redes...

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by VC10er
Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 708361

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

This 789 was delivered in 2015, so its about halfway through its paint cycle. You'd think UA would get a discount for the cost of the touchup to apply towards a full repaint, which could have made it worthwhile. However, maybe VCV doesn't have what it needs to do a 789 in the new livery. Also VCV h...

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by VC10er
Sat Nov 16, 2019 3:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 708361

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

The 4 777-222ERs are currently ITPE and wont get Polairs. They will be configured to a 777-222A Domestic config. If I remember they are the 4 newest UA 777s and that's why they got picked to become domestic. Also they dont have any differences then the other -222ERs except some have a lower rest ar...

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by VC10er
Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 708361

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

They will. All 777-224ER will have a common configuration once the program finishes, which will be the same seat count as all but 4 777-222ER. I know what the difference is with those 222ER's, the different arrangement of seats for cabin crew rest area, but I wasn't aware that it was only 4 frames....

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by VC10er
Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 708361

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

https://www.instagram.com/p/B4w0fCdhuW4/?igshid=wb3n4s8t02w4 Here’s a shot someone got of 676. Stunning. IMO, so happy to see the gold color gone. VC10....what say you? Sorry I was on a hectic business trip! First, whenever I look at at new branding I’ve been trained to look at it from a view point...

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by VC10er
Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aegean new livery
Replies: 180
Views: 54246

Re: Aegean new livery

Maybe they will change their entire identity to the name „Olympic“ which is a worldwide recognized name ( also all domestic flights and flights from Athens to Larnaca are already Olympic flights ( operated by Aegean) . Whenever I show my Aegean Miles and Bonus Card at Lounges outside Europe , no on...

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by VC10er
Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aegean new livery
Replies: 180
Views: 54246

Re: Aegean new livery

Any newer images of a more complete livery? Gosh I hope they created something more meaningful than the “clip art” they used that easily have been a logo a small travel agent had made at a local print shop, and the really BAD typeface they used for “AEGEAN” If you go to Star Alliance’s website, the...

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by VC10er
Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aegean new livery
Replies: 180
Views: 54246

Re: Aegean new livery

Any newer images of a more complete livery? Gosh I hope they created something more meaningful than the “clip art” they used that easily have been a logo a small travel agent had made at a local print shop, and the really BAD typeface they used for “AEGEAN” If you go to Star Alliance’s website, the...

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by VC10er
Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 708361

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Interior seating, one side is Empire, other side is Rebel.... Came to Orlando last week for a Disney Event.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=11&v=zbaZCb5zhEA&feature=emb_logo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Oc3A8VS6yA This is a 787-800 in Star Wars paint, am I correct? If it ...

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by VC10er
Mon Nov 11, 2019 6:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 708361

Re: United 787-10 Service to Shanghai and Auckland

Once I opened the mesh curtain I was seriously very surprised to see how far the aisle went back! (what is the 78-10’s length vs a 772? http://www.aviatorjoe.net/go/compare/777-200ER/787-10/ 209' vs 224'. 787-10 is 15 feet longer nose to tail. -10 has a MTOW approx 100,000lbs LESS than a 772 and ca...

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by VC10er
Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 708361

Re: United 787-10 Service to Shanghai and Auckland

I think this just adds to the growing evidence that the -10 is going to be the sleeper hit of the 787 family. Like the 300ER, the -10 is apparently more capable and more flexible than most of us expected. It could even shape up to be a 77W replacement for a number of carriers that don't need the ra...

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by VC10er
Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 708361

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

It’s difficult to pinpoint a “tipping point” for United at except possibly the exit of Smisek. Even then it took a few of years for United to “feel” positive change, and especially for “my” airport, EWR, to feel open, welcoming, modern enough and convenient. I remember when TA, TB & TC were buil...

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by VC10er
Sat Nov 09, 2019 1:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aegean new livery
Replies: 180
Views: 54246

Re: Aegean new livery

I can’t open the link! There is no airline in the world that needs/needed a new identity and livery as much as AEGEAN! It looks like the least thought through thing in brand history. Ironically its national origin couldn’t be more RICH in terms of inspiration! I don’t know if anyone here has been to...

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by VC10er
Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 708361

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Not exactly fleet-related, but some other sites are reporting that UA is getting ready to sell E+ as a separate booking class on some routes. Should be interesting to see whether that may also include some product enhancements.... I’m not sure if UA ought to consider E+ a separate booking class, I ...

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by VC10er
Thu Nov 07, 2019 4:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 708361

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

I have a question about used 763ER’s. UA may or may not want more, but is the 763 ER an aircraft that is available on the used market- 763 airframes with life left in them? Eg: Hawaiian frames UA took? The is a reason I ask. I just did an EWR/LA RT on the 787-10, in a true Polaris seat. OTHER THAN ...

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by VC10er
Thu Nov 07, 2019 5:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 708361

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

I have a question about used 763ER’s. UA may or may not want more, but is the 763 ER an aircraft that is available on the used market- 763 airframes with life left in them? Eg: Hawaiian frames UA took? The is a reason I ask. I just did an EWR/LA RT on the 787-10, in a true Polaris seat. OTHER THAN T...

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by VC10er
Mon Nov 04, 2019 8:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 708361

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Wow, thanks sdh9 for taking the time to thoughtfully write all that for me! Greatly appreciated. Nobody outside the aviation business/world understands anything, people just don’t understand what they cannot see. I consider myself an enthusiast but not an expert. But I know enough that when I hear a...

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by VC10er
Mon Nov 04, 2019 3:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Future aircraft for LCY
Replies: 75
Views: 12699

Re: Future aircraft for LCY

Is there any reason why one or all US3 would not want to serve LCY from JFK/EWR or IAD or BOS? United is at a disadvantage due to AA & BA (maybe Delta too?) Perhaps just dreaming but if UA did this from EWR & IAD it would be very enticing (I would think) from both EWR & IAD. Don’t tell m...

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