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by VC10er
Mon Sep 09, 2019 10:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am and the 747-400
Replies: 104
Views: 17949

Re: Pan Am and the 747-400

I often imagine what PanAm would be like today had she survived, grown and was equal in size to one of the US3. With 748i’s, 787’s and A220’s! What would international First Class looked like? PanAm lounges. A barely changed livery. In an alternate universe where PA survived and a different carrier...

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by VC10er
Sun Sep 08, 2019 5:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am and the 747-400
Replies: 104
Views: 17949

Re: Pan Am and the 747-400

My apartment is covered with PanAm stuff, including a slice of a 707 fuselage with a window intact! I will read anything that anyone has anything to do with PanAm. She may be gone for a long time, she may have even really suffered and passengers really felt she wasn’t what she used to be. But PanAm ...

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by VC10er
Sun Sep 08, 2019 4:47 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Airports with Hotels, smack in the middle of Terminals
Replies: 63
Views: 7797

Re: Airports with Hotels, smack in the middle of Terminals

Allthough not inside the terminal, GVA has Starling hotel that is walking distance to the terminal. It is quite a nice hotel. Also Holiday Inn Express and Mövenpick hotel are also walking distance. GRU has a sleep in in Terminal 2 arrivals level! Very small but good for a few houra! I have used tha...

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by VC10er
Sun Sep 08, 2019 3:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United p.s. Question
Replies: 129
Views: 26367

Re: United p.s. Question

[quote="NJHoboken"]I’m an NJ based United GS flyer and for obvious reasons, I’m happy they moved lie-flat transcon to EWR. That said, as someone that flies in paid J, I only care that they have a lie-flat seat and decent food (when I fly at mealtimes, which I avoid). I think the biggest is...

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by VC10er
Sun Sep 08, 2019 3:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 709100

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Couple curiosities: Of the US3, who has the most of their own metal from points throughout the USA to LHR? Second: once the brand new deliveries for United arrive, by summer 2020, will UA keep all EWR/LHR nonstops 763’s or can we expect to see refurbished 772’s or 78Js on EWR/LHR? (77W?) They will ...

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by VC10er
Sun Sep 08, 2019 1:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 709100

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Couple curiosities:
Of the US3, who has the most of their own metal from points throughout the USA to LHR?

Second: once the brand new deliveries for United arrive, by summer 2020, will UA keep all EWR/LHR nonstops 763’s or can we expect to see refurbished 772’s or 78Js on EWR/LHR? (77W?)

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by VC10er
Sat Sep 07, 2019 3:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United p.s. Question
Replies: 129
Views: 26367

Re: United p.s. Question

Placing all facts aside (mostly because I would not understand any unintended consequences, fleet, costs etc) It “seems” to me that UA (and others) have a secondary business strategy to put a stake in the ground and become the undisputed leader such as; “owning” or “dominating” a destination or reg...

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by VC10er
Fri Sep 06, 2019 7:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United p.s. Question
Replies: 129
Views: 26367

Re: United p.s. Question

Placing all facts aside (mostly because I would not understand any unintended consequences, fleet, costs etc) It “seems” to me that UA (and others) have a secondary business strategy to put a stake in the ground and become the undisputed leader such as; “owning” or “dominating” a destination or regi...

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by VC10er
Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 709100

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

There is a well known expression that would apply well here “there is no such thing as a stupid question” Would having any UA flights into London Gatwick be beneficial in anyway to anyone? Basic thought is: for some people in a part of London and its surrounding suburbs etc benefit with a faster rid...

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by VC10er
Wed Sep 04, 2019 3:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 709100

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

I know I’ve read it, but haven’t retained it. The 772 fleet that has or will have been refurbished to the new interiors, Polaris/PE, how many years of flying can be squeezed out of them before the A350 must come in to replace them? And will the Polaris seats be in good enough condition to move over ...

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by VC10er
Mon Sep 02, 2019 3:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United p.s. Question
Replies: 129
Views: 26367

Re: United p.s. Question

the PS thing is Long Gone,, Agree. It is now “premium transcontinental service” on “premium transcontinental routes.” (Source: united.com) The question is whether or not there is still a sub-fleet being used on the routes. Do any aircraft in the Hi-J sub-fleet fly international routes? Do other int...

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by VC10er
Mon Sep 02, 2019 2:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United p.s. Question
Replies: 129
Views: 26367

Re: United p.s. Question

At the time of launch of the special 752 subfleet ps, 3 class - it was a great innovative step up from old “762 ‘n Things” that preceded ps. I flew those transcons fairly often and bounced around between AA, UA even TWA L-1011s. I don’t recall what Delta was doing, or if PanAm connected JFK to SFO/...

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by VC10er
Mon Sep 02, 2019 8:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United p.s. Question
Replies: 129
Views: 26367

Re: United p.s. Question

At the time of launch of the special 752 subfleet ps, 3 class - it was a great innovative step up from old “762 ‘n Things” that preceded ps. I flew those transcons fairly often and bounced around between AA, UA even TWA L-1011s. I don’t recall what Delta was doing, or if PanAm connected JFK to SFO/L...

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by VC10er
Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:14 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA FA Helps Boy With Autism
Replies: 24
Views: 5133

Re: UA FA Helps Boy With Autism

We've become so accustomed to flight attendants power tripping, throwing people off planes, killing pets (UA), and calling police to bloody passengers who won't give up their assigned seat post-boarding (UA) that when they do something otherwise, its national/international news. On this UA flight, ...

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by VC10er
Thu Aug 29, 2019 11:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: British Airways to paint 4 aircraft in retro livery
Replies: 671
Views: 141418

Re: British Airways to paint 4 aircraft in retro livery

That isn't an unveiling - it is Lady Thatcher's reaction to the "World Tails" scheme that she thought diminished the value of "British Airways." Can't say that I disagree with her sentiment. I disagree 100%. Thatcher was being jingoistic and small-minded as usual. The world tail...

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by VC10er
Wed Aug 28, 2019 6:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 709100

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

I get seriously get goosebumps when I read about all the WB deliveries! What a great, flexible and huge fleet of WB’s and yet all from 1 manufacturer! And, mostly: when the day comes that the “73MAX” series gets the green light to fly again, (I’m not sure how many of the 150 MAX’s UA were due to tak...

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by VC10er
Wed Aug 28, 2019 11:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 709100

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

So, I am left wondering why UA has a couple/few “Jewel in the Crown” type of aircraft like the 787-10 doing transcon when it could be flying to a European destination, that’s currently being flown with a 764 or old 772, where UNITED could be charging much higher fares for Polaris/PE in cases where ...

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by VC10er
Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 709100

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

So, in other words, using a 78X transcon is now actually part of creating the full experience say from EWR to SFO then connect to 78X or 77W to a AsiaPac destination? Are they timed to do that vs a EWR nonstop to AsiaPac, same for SFO/LAX to EWR to connect to Europe? The eastbound 78J transcon flig...

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by VC10er
Tue Aug 27, 2019 12:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 709100

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

I always figured these were for training purposes, but is UA considering always having a 78X flying transcon- or perhaps squeezing in some freed up 763’s? I'd expect to continue seeing the 78Xs on EWR-SFO/EWR-LAX for the foreseeable future. LAX-HND will be a 787-10 route when it starts in March, an...

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by VC10er
Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 709100

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

...I sometimes think of the pax who booked F not really caring, getting a 78X out (thinking WOW, this spectacular!) then on the return getting a 752 and (thinking WTF?) - probably rare but you get my point... ...Frankly I’d love 1 Stratocruiser a day! I had a ride upfront in a sCO 752 recently and ...

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by VC10er
Tue Aug 27, 2019 3:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 709100

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Question: when I fly transcontinental, SFO/LAX I will always look for the 1 often 2 787-10s that day from EWR. How long will UA feel its necessary to use them transcontinental- the contrast between them and their 752’s and HD 772’s are virtually jarring. I sometimes think of the pax who booked F not...

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by VC10er
Mon Aug 26, 2019 12:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How did AA Survive 9/11 and 587 Crash?
Replies: 35
Views: 6943

Re: How did AA Survive 9/11 and 587 Crash?

Due to the tragedy of 9/11, how long did the slump basically last? I was doing a lot of flying back then, and it didn’t slow me down- I was on a JFK to GRU flight just after flying resumed. It’s been 17 years so I don’t recall if aircraft were full or empty. The AA A300 that crashed after take off w...

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by VC10er
Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:16 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Airports with Hotels, smack in the middle of Terminals
Replies: 63
Views: 7797

Re: Airports with Hotels, smack in the middle of Terminals

flyboy_se wrote:
VC10er wrote:
zrs70 wrote:
I NEED ONE AT GVA & GRU!



Allthough not inside the terminal, GVA has Starling hotel that is walking distance to the terminal.
It is quite a nice hotel. Also Holiday Inn Express and Mövenpick hotel are also walking distance.


Thanks! I will look them up. Mövenpick have gotten nicer!

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by VC10er
Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:24 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Airports with Hotels, smack in the middle of Terminals
Replies: 63
Views: 7797

Re: Airports with Hotels, smack in the middle of Terminals

I'm seeing four different answers here: 1) Hotels that are encompassed into the airport terminal (DTW - Westin) 2) Hotels that are connected to the terminal via an enclosed/ semi enclosed walkway (BOS-Hilton) 3) Hotels that are right outside the terminal/ across the street (VIE - NH Hotel) 4) Hotel...

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by VC10er
Fri Aug 23, 2019 5:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 709100

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

When I think of flights like Singapore, Australia etc, I think about the huge gap in the Premium experience vs others being so huge with the Diamond seats, newer perhaps but really the same. And the general atmosphere is SO MUCH nicer in true Polaris. Although I’ve been flamed for this: the removal...

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by VC10er
Fri Aug 23, 2019 2:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 709100

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Hey Jayunited! Is “United” really your family’s last name? Is it on your birth certificate? Lol Well, I did know that there were new aircraft coming, I knew there were 789s, but somehow the number “19” escaped me! WOW! All together that really puts a hell of a lot of new United seats in the sky! I ...

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by VC10er
Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 709100

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

It “seems” to me, had Boeing said they would build some pax 763s for UA, it does seem (given these fairly steady NEW international destinations), United could’ve really used more 763s given their “right sized” pax counts: either regular or high premium. Palermo! Are the UA fleet planners looking fo...

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by VC10er
Thu Aug 22, 2019 8:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 709100

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

It “seems” to me, had Boeing said they would build some pax 763s for UA, it does seem (given these fairly steady NEW international destinations), United could’ve really used more 763s given their “right sized” pax counts: either regular or high premium. Palermo! Are the UA fleet planners looking for...

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by VC10er
Thu Aug 22, 2019 12:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 709100

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Who are the “plenty of people” saying UA needs a new livery, avgeeks or airline employees? I highly doubt the general flying public cares about what external livery looks like.. they spend their time in the passenger cabin. 77H Just as you say the general public sees the inside the plane, they also...

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by VC10er
Tue Aug 20, 2019 8:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Airlines "Evolution" to Globe Livery released
Replies: 1797
Views: 384861

Re: United Airlines "Evolution" to Globe Livery released

Keep in mind that it's also about the value derived from the re-paint from a marketing/brand perspective. AA repainted quickly because they were integrating two brands into one and needed to a) paint the US Airways ASAP to avoid customer confusion and b) Create the sense of one strong cohesive/mode...

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by VC10er
Tue Aug 20, 2019 3:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Airlines "Evolution" to Globe Livery released
Replies: 1797
Views: 384861

Re: United Airlines "Evolution" to Globe Livery released

There are many levels of branding in terms of change, depending on the situation with a brand (is business slowing, flat, declining or in a death spiral?). Or, there is “new news, innovation or product improvement and last: have your primary competitors de-positioned you with a fresh bold look (mak...

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by VC10er
Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:24 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 709100

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

I’d be interested to know what the cost differential is between installing new sidewalls, lighting and overhead bins vs completely repainting an aircraft. My personal opinion is that the money spent on developing and implementation of the new livery would have been better spent updating the cabins ...

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by VC10er
Sun Aug 18, 2019 1:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Airlines "Evolution" to Globe Livery released
Replies: 1797
Views: 384861

Re: United Airlines "Evolution" to Globe Livery released

As I promised, here is the better quality picture of the first 737max in the new United livery. https://twitter.com/gerardiaviation/status/1139912267196092416 With the better quality one you can clearly see the reg. And also that there is still some gold on the aircraft (look at the inside of the w...

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by VC10er
Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 709100

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

I haven’t been on a UA 753 (potentially have never been on one, if I was, it was a very long time ago!) I was googling around and found someone’s review (not anyone I ever heard of) of the newly configured 753, with pics. Apparently this reviewer is often on the UA 753. However the review was a bit...

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by VC10er
Sat Aug 17, 2019 6:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 709100

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

I haven’t been on a UA 753 (potentially have never been on one, if I was, it was a very long time ago!) I was googling around and found someone’s review (not anyone I ever heard of) of the newly configured 753, with pics. Apparently this reviewer is often on the UA 753. However the review was a bit ...

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by VC10er
Fri Aug 16, 2019 5:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 709100

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Basically: while refurbishing a fleet the size of UA, indeed there will be a few years of inconsistency, but as UA nears competition, I think it’s a mistake to have a dozens of old birds in the “just leave them ‘as is’ till they die” look and condition BECAUSE those untouched birds will still be fl...

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by VC10er
Thu Aug 15, 2019 9:43 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 709100

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Can I ask at this point if UA, in retrospect, would have hoped their last 6 772A aircraft received in 2000 were really 772ER aircraft? It appears UA will convert 4 772ERs to domestic configuration soon. I don't think UA has any regrets about purchasing 6 772As in 2000, those aircraft have served a ...

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by VC10er
Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:39 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Airports with Hotels, smack in the middle of Terminals
Replies: 63
Views: 7797

Re: Airports with Hotels, smack in the middle of Terminals

Wow! This is totally awesome! Thank you everyone. If I get around to it, I’m going to type up a list and carry it with me. I hate those shuttle busses when I’m a total zombie with bed head after a long flight, or the Uber/taxi ride for 45 minutes at 4am from downtown “where ever” to the airport. I’d...

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by VC10er
Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:35 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Airports with Hotels, smack in the middle of Terminals
Replies: 63
Views: 7797

Re: Airports with Hotels, smack in the middle of Terminals

Thanks everyone! I have gone online to a few major world airports and the USA, and many do. The one at Dubai is interesting: the room styles change dramatically in decor, from regular contemporary, contemporary but with a “Moorish” touch, then 180 degrees to old European/classical. Some practical an...

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by VC10er
Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:26 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Airports with Hotels, smack in the middle of Terminals
Replies: 63
Views: 7797

Airports with Hotels, smack in the middle of Terminals

I have been staying at the Westin at Denver airport recently. It’s not smack in the middle but certainly close enough. And it also has become one of my favorite hotels in the world! But damn it’s expensive! And no wonder because they stopped at nothing to make beautiful. It’s not like those quick sl...

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by VC10er
Mon Aug 12, 2019 1:32 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Why is there no EWR-TPE flight?
Replies: 23
Views: 5637

Re: Why is there no EWR-TPE flight?

What US cities (other than JFK) does EVA fly nonstop to? I am sure that if someone in Taiwan wants to visit family just about anywhere in the USA, or go to DisneyWorld or a business person needs to go to any city in the USA, I would bet that UA could manage the domestic leg. Very often while traveli...

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by VC10er
Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 709100

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Just a note to users: this thread isn't intended as an "all things UA" thread, it's intended to be for a consolidated discussion on the fleet and network operations. Discussions on service options and products belong in the Travel Forum, as that's where that sort of discussion is more app...

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by VC10er
Sat Aug 10, 2019 11:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 709100

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Gosh, in roughly 10/12 posts my gears are turning on a number of topics. 1: The first time I had a branding project from Embraer, the E175-95 has been launched and put into service for a very short time. They still had the E145 line open and I was given a private tour by the client. I had learned a ...

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by VC10er
Fri Aug 09, 2019 4:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 709100

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

Peek at the CRJ550 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EBcIauvXUAIGYMx?format=jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EBcIauwW4AE5jPA?format=jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EBcIauvW4AELB7b?format=jpg https://thepointsguy.com/news/united-appears-to-be-testing-its-new-dual-class-50-seat-jet-the-crj550/ I must say, f...

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by VC10er
Tue Aug 06, 2019 10:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 709100

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

It looks like the 77Ws currently being used for our daily SFO-HKG will make their way over to EWR as EWR-PVG will be upguaged to the 77W. Starting this fall EWR-NRT/HKG/PVG and BOM all 77W, I think once the final batch of 77Ws are delivered EWR-DEL will be upguaged as well. Quick side note the 77Ws...

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by VC10er
Tue Aug 06, 2019 2:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 709100

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

179/180 EWR/HKG have been upgauged to the 77W. It was to go back to 77E in late October, but now stays 77W... It looks like the 77Ws currently being used for our daily SFO-HKG will make their way over to EWR as EWR-PVG will be upguaged to the 77W. Starting this fall EWR-NRT/HKG/PVG and BOM all 77W,...

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by VC10er
Tue Aug 06, 2019 2:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: More Bad News for Boeing: Poor quality complaints from customers
Replies: 96
Views: 28325

Re: More Bad News for Boeing: Poor quality complaints from customers

While I am not in the aviation business at all in any way— cost cutting and quarterly results calls are effecting every single publicly traded company. I had one job at one agency for 24 years. I started at age 30 and the company was private. The #1 thing that mattered the MOST BY FAR was quality. M...

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by VC10er
Sun Aug 04, 2019 6:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 709100

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

On a whole different topic than a ULH 789. Once United has ALL of its MAX’s, ALL its new (used) narrow bodies- minus the retirements, and gets to scale on its domestic fleet, with DL, AA & Southwest and the others, will United have the routes, slots, frequencies and enough stroopwaffles? Today i...

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by VC10er
Sun Aug 04, 2019 2:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 709100

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

I who know nothing! I am assuming that it’s 40 Economy Blocked seats. QUESTION: as per the high premium 767, could a 789 add more Polaris and Premium Economy, E+ and shrink Economy to save weight: sell more premium seats? That said I always wonder if a Polaris seat just adds back the weight of 40 Y...

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by VC10er
Sun Aug 04, 2019 12:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019
Replies: 3546
Views: 709100

Re: United Fleet/Network Thread - 2019

I who know nothing! I am assuming that it’s 40 Economy Blocked seats. QUESTION: as per the high premium 767, could a 789 add more Polaris and Premium Economy, E+ and shrink Economy to save weight: sell more premium seats? That said I always wonder if a Polaris seat just adds back the weight of 40 Y ...

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