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by kitplane01
Sat Apr 30, 2022 2:33 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: AH-1Z vs AH-64
Replies: 20
Views: 3801

Re: AH-1Z vs AH-64

AH-64 has a lighter empty weight, but comparing the max takeoff weights (i.e. loaded up for combat) tells a different story AH-64: 23,000 lbs AH-1Z: 18,500 lbs Put the same number of weapons with fuel to fly the same mission and the AH-64E has better hot/high performance. The AH-64E simply has been...

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by kitplane01
Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:34 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - Military Aviation News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1001
Views: 143045

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - Military Aviation News and Discussion Thread

I agree with kitplane01. What does Switzerland have to offer? We don't have any weight in Moscow. And a neutral stance is too expensive just for saying "Well, you guys can debate in Geneva." Russia will continue with the war as long as they believe they can make valuable gains. In certain...

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by kitplane01
Fri Apr 29, 2022 2:59 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: AH-1Z vs AH-64
Replies: 20
Views: 3801

Re: AH-1Z vs AH-64

The only advantage the AH-1Z has is availability. Qatar is currently receiving 24 AH-64E The UK is then getting 50 AH-64E Australia is then getting 29 AH-64E Morroco is negotiating for 24 AH-64E with an option for another 12. Apache production is filled until 2035. Bahrain, Nigeria and Czech Republ...

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by kitplane01
Fri Apr 29, 2022 2:56 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: AH-1Z vs AH-64
Replies: 20
Views: 3801

Re: AH-1Z vs AH-64

Hot and High performance far better for the AH-1Z according to a Bell rep I spoke to. That's why the Pakistanis wanted it too. I'd be interested. The AH-64 weighs slightly less, has slightly more horsepower, and a slightly larger disk area. Even so, the AH-1Z might have more hot-and-high performanc...

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by kitplane01
Fri Apr 29, 2022 2:52 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: AH-1Z vs AH-64
Replies: 20
Views: 3801

Re: AH-1Z vs AH-64

The AH-1Z is I believe substantially lighter and needs a lot less maintenance than the latest Apache’s. It’s available, can be integrated with a lot of weapons similarly, and depending on the need for things like taxiing (vs hovering) still does a lot of things really, really well for many customer...

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by kitplane01
Fri Apr 29, 2022 2:41 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - Military Aviation News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1001
Views: 143045

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - Military Aviation News and Discussion Thread

Yes. Our neutrality means that in a conflict, Swiss companies have to offer armament to all conflict parties - or to none of them. The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. I'd make the argument that the potential value of a true neutral state is more valuable ...

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by kitplane01
Thu Apr 28, 2022 8:34 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - Military Aviation News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1001
Views: 143045

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - Military Aviation News and Discussion Thread

flyingturtle wrote:

Yes. Our neutrality means that in a conflict, Swiss companies have to offer armament to all conflict parties - or to none of them.


The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

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by kitplane01
Thu Apr 28, 2022 8:28 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: AH-1Z vs AH-64
Replies: 20
Views: 3801

AH-1Z vs AH-64

Nigeria just bought 12 AH-1Zs for $1B. Bahrain also has 12 on order. The Czech Republic 4.

Does the AH-1Z have any advantages over the AH-64, beyond parts commonality with the UH-1?

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by kitplane01
Thu Apr 28, 2022 8:14 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Future E-7A buy
Replies: 51
Views: 11297

Re: Future E-7A buy

One limitation of the E-7 in its current form is the number of operator stations, currently the RAAF examples are fitted with 10 stations. The E-3 has 14 I believe, the USAF may want more that the E-7 allows for. Would a 737-800 with more operator stations work for this mission? Yes, but then you w...

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by kitplane01
Tue Apr 26, 2022 4:34 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Serbia and the Rafale?
Replies: 15
Views: 2771

Re: Serbia and the Rafale?

Serbia has been busy modernising its military recently and in doing so they are buying more sophisticated equipment from different sources and countries around the world including anti-aircraft systems from both France and China, drones from China and Turkey, tanks and armored vehicles from Russia ...

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by kitplane01
Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:17 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Boeing MQ-25 News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 142
Views: 31123

Re: Boeing MQ-25 News and Discussion Thread

I suspect the Navy is treating the specs as classified for now. I am sure they had a ton of data back at the RFP stage. No reason for Boeing or the Navy to divulge anything beyond the RFP We know the gross weight of the F-22, F-35, and B-2. But the refueler aircraft, that's classified? We know the ...

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by kitplane01
Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:48 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Re-Engine the C-130
Replies: 53
Views: 5351

Re: Re-Engine the C-130

I think a VTOL transport would be considerable be more expensive than a conventional 4 engined transport. No one is disputing it will be more expensive to buy. If someone invented a teleporting machine that could send cargo to any point on Earth no one would compare the price of that machine to a c...

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by kitplane01
Wed Apr 20, 2022 5:18 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Boeing MQ-25 News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 142
Views: 31123

Re: Boeing MQ-25 News and Discussion Thread

Wiki has the wing span and height. But that is probably fot the pre-production frames. They will not have final weights until they finish the first production frames completed and have weight on wheels. The internal components would have been sized for full operation life time as opposed to test li...

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by kitplane01
Tue Apr 19, 2022 6:38 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Boeing MQ-25 News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 142
Views: 31123

Re: Boeing MQ-25 News and Discussion Thread

Has Boeing or the USN released any specs on the MQ-25? Empty or gross weight, wing span, cruise speed or maximum speed, or anything besides fuel offload at 500nm?

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by kitplane01
Mon Apr 18, 2022 7:01 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: US Marines develop 'Lightning Carrier"
Replies: 40
Views: 6764

Re: US Marines develop 'Lightning Carrier"

TWA772LR wrote:
This concept would be better used as a detergent ...


This is so funny!

(I've never misspeled anything. Never!)

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by kitplane01
Mon Apr 18, 2022 3:56 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Re-Engine the C-130
Replies: 53
Views: 5351

Re: Re-Engine the C-130

I understand what you're saying .. but I'm not sure I agree. The point is not to conduct the patrol, the point is to win the war. If the nation is so hostile, and our military presence is so weak, we cannot secure an FOB and we cannot drive a patrol 50km , then we've already lost. It is not that bl...

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by kitplane01
Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:22 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: German Heavy Lift Helicopter Replacement Program News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 370
Views: 104408

Re: German Heavy Lift Helicopter Replacement Program News and Discussion Thread

Since you mention the US Navy networking, they bought into the LCS platform with its modular weapons packages, which were never developed to operational status thus never deployed and now the platform is going away, which was needed, the platform or the modules? How about shore bombardment for the ...

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by kitplane01
Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:18 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Re-Engine the C-130
Replies: 53
Views: 5351

Re: Re-Engine the C-130

A forward operating base might cost $100,000 an hour. If the tactical VTOL transport eliminates this cost then it is far cheaper than any C-130 and Chinook combo. Let's look at the Iraq war. For every soldier walking the streets there might be 10 other military personnel in Iraq supporting that sol...

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by kitplane01
Sun Apr 17, 2022 7:01 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Re-Engine the C-130
Replies: 53
Views: 5351

Re: Re-Engine the C-130

None of this sounds like an efficient way to transport goods. The day-to-day mission of the military transport is from runway to runway, and 3x the cost to land in a field instead of a runway might not be winning except in a few use cases. Reminder: money not spent on super-high-tech transports can...

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by kitplane01
Sat Apr 16, 2022 6:53 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Re-Engine the C-130
Replies: 53
Views: 5351

Re: Re-Engine the C-130

The Air Force has essentially zero expertise (and, currently, interest) in rotorcraft. The Army has its hands full with FARA/FLRAA right now, and a C-130-scale tilt-rotor/tilt-wing would be technically very risky. It's not just a matter of scaling what has been done already. This is completely diff...

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by kitplane01
Fri Apr 15, 2022 5:43 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Re-Engine the C-130
Replies: 53
Views: 5351

Re: Re-Engine the C-130

Isn't this a bit of a apples and oranges comparison? The RR AE-2100 is for fixed wing aircraft and the T55-714C is for rotorcraft. The T55 is always mounted horizontally. It's not like the engine would need a new orientation. I do wonder if the gearbox would need a new ratio. And the original engin...

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by kitplane01
Fri Apr 15, 2022 5:41 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Re-Engine the C-130
Replies: 53
Views: 5351

Re: Re-Engine the C-130

The C-130 will be getting replaced by a quad tilit rotor/wing in the JMR-Ultra program. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_Vertical_Lift Maybe. I doubt it but time will tell. I bet 20 years from now they are still flying more than 100 C-130s. The C-130J has a service life of more than 20 years ...

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by kitplane01
Fri Apr 15, 2022 2:17 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Re-Engine the C-130
Replies: 53
Views: 5351

Re: Re-Engine the C-130

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_Vertical_Lift


Maybe. I doubt it but time will tell. I bet 20 years from now they are still flying more than 100 C-130s.
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RJMAZ wrote:
The C-130 will be getting replaced by a quad tilit rotor/wing in the JMR-Ultra program.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_Vertical_Lift


Maybe. I doubt it but time will tell. I bet 20 years from now they are still flying more than 100 C-130s.

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by kitplane01
Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:36 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Re-Engine the C-130
Replies: 53
Views: 5351

Re: Re-Engine the C-130

The T-56 has plenty of power for the Herc, and they don’t care one iota about fuel efficiency. I bet they care about the payload/range chart, and the ability to carry more payload further is probably worth a whole bunch of iotas. Longer maximum range, and for shorter range flights carrying less fue...

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by kitplane01
Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:30 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: German Heavy Lift Helicopter Replacement Program News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 370
Views: 104408

Re: German Heavy Lift Helicopter Replacement Program News and Discussion Thread

I´m fully aware that a CH-47 has a lower fly-away-price compared to a CH-53K. Even Lookheed Martin & Rheinmetall state this. However, as stated several times already, price is only part of the consideration. Technical capability / performance, system resilience (single European fleet vs. two ty...

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by kitplane01
Thu Apr 14, 2022 2:45 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Re-Engine the C-130
Replies: 53
Views: 5351

Re: Re-Engine the C-130

aumaverick wrote:
Isn't this a bit of a apples and oranges comparison? The RR AE-2100 is for fixed wing aircraft and the T55-714C is for rotorcraft.


The T55 is always mounted horizontally. It's not like the engine would need a new orientation. I do wonder if the gearbox would need a new ratio.

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by kitplane01
Thu Apr 14, 2022 1:04 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - Military Aviation News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1001
Views: 143045

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - Military Aviation News and Discussion Thread

Today an USMC C-130J callsign Juicy23 flew tanker sorties over Poland. That's been happening on a daily basis. I suspect that when you see them, there is an Osprey nearby with its transponder turned off. There was ine incident in the early days of the war when I saw two C-130s flying in from the we...

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by kitplane01
Thu Apr 14, 2022 12:40 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Re-Engine the C-130
Replies: 53
Views: 5351

Re-Engine the C-130

The C-130 used to have the Alison/RR T-56-A-15 engine (4590 HP). The C-130J now uses the RR AE-2100 engine (4637 HP). Honeywell is now in late stage development of the T-55-714C (6000 HP). "The latest configuration T55-714C delivers 22% more power and uses 8% less fuel than its predecessor. The...

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by kitplane01
Wed Apr 13, 2022 11:52 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: German Heavy Lift Helicopter Replacement Program News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 370
Views: 104408

Re: German Heavy Lift Helicopter Replacement Program News and Discussion Thread

There is no doubt in my mind the 53K is more capable, but at what price is it worth it to the Germans? The commonality with the French/other Chinook operators seems like a no brainer, with the industrial partnerships Boing et al. Have lined up, unless money is just no object now to them. I understo...

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by kitplane01
Wed Apr 13, 2022 11:47 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: German Heavy Lift Helicopter Replacement Program News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 370
Views: 104408

Re: German Heavy Lift Helicopter Replacement Program News and Discussion Thread

I think those are very extreme numbers. Frankly, it is probably the case that 70 -47F’s vs. 60 -53K’s might be more accurate. Why do you think that? I offered the price from an order from the US government in 2020, and another in 2021. Same customer, very close dates. If you have a better set of co...

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by kitplane01
Wed Apr 13, 2022 5:47 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: German Heavy Lift Helicopter Replacement Program News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 370
Views: 104408

Re: German Heavy Lift Helicopter Replacement Program News and Discussion Thread

There is no doubt in my mind the 53K is more capable, but at what price is it worth it to the Germans? The commonality with the French/other Chinook operators seems like a no brainer, with the industrial partnerships Boing et al. Have lined up, unless money is just no object now to them. I understo...

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by kitplane01
Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:33 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: German Heavy Lift Helicopter Replacement Program News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 370
Views: 104408

Re: German Heavy Lift Helicopter Replacement Program News and Discussion Thread

There is no doubt in my mind the 53K is more capable, but at what price is it worth it to the Germans? The commonality with the French/other Chinook operators seems like a no brainer, with the industrial partnerships Boing et al. Have lined up, unless money is just no object now to them. I understo...

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by kitplane01
Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:21 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Future of the Typhoon vs Rafale
Replies: 60
Views: 10535

Re: Future of the Typhoon vs Rafale

You're being extremely generous with the RCS; a Typhoon/Rafale/Gripen is in the same category as an F-16 or F-18 E/F... easily. But nope, zero difference - you're all dead. S-300s, S-400s... no way. If you're not in a modern 5th gen aircraft, it's over. Even Buks and older systems have zero issue w...

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by kitplane01
Mon Apr 11, 2022 4:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: China Eastern 737-800 crashes in Guangxi, southern China
Replies: 1178
Views: 455883

Re: China Eastern 737-800 crashes in Guangxi, southern China

I'm totally aware of "first aviate, then communicate". But they had lots of time to declare an emergency. Even just pushing the button and saying "Mayday Mayday China Eastern 5735 going down " would have sped rescue efforts. Seriously, in flight training the protocol was "a...

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by kitplane01
Mon Apr 11, 2022 12:56 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: China Eastern 737-800 crashes in Guangxi, southern China
Replies: 1178
Views: 455883

Re: China Eastern 737-800 crashes in Guangxi, southern China

Mr. Gryder put out a different video a couple of days after the crash, stating that from the outset he had great difficulty thinking of any scenario that would put a B738 in such a dive profile and bring it down in such a short space of time, besides pilot deliberate action. Lots of outcomes could ...

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by kitplane01
Sun Apr 10, 2022 6:19 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: United Launch Alliance - Tests, Launches, News, Developments
Replies: 223
Views: 40454

Re: United Launch Alliance - Tests, Launches, News, Developments

Amazon buys 38 Vulcan launches from ULA launches for their 'Kuiper' broadband constellation, in addition to 18 Ariane 6 and 12 (+15 options) New Glenn launches from Blue Origin. https://spacenews.com/amazon-signs-multibillion-dollar-project-kuiper-launch-contracts/ That's a massive order for ULA gi...

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by kitplane01
Sun Apr 10, 2022 6:17 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: US Marines develop 'Lightning Carrier"
Replies: 40
Views: 6764

Re: US Marines develop 'Lightning Carrier"

No big deal and a waste of a phib. They still have no organic air to air refueling, AEW, or ASW. They do not have the range or persistence of a true carrier. Worst of all, they cannot keep up with a carrier battle group. It's far better for CVNs to operate with the British and French carriers that ...

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by kitplane01
Sun Apr 10, 2022 6:14 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: US Marines develop 'Lightning Carrier"
Replies: 40
Views: 6764

Re: US Marines develop 'Lightning Carrier"

No big deal and a waste of a phib. They still have no organic air to air refueling, AEW, or ASW. They do not have the range or persistence of a true carrier. Worst of all, they cannot keep up with a carrier battle group. It's far better for CVNs to operate with the British and French carriers that ...

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by kitplane01
Tue Apr 05, 2022 3:13 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Turkey's new Aircraft Carrier with only drones
Replies: 27
Views: 4169

Re: Turkey's new Aircraft Carrier with only drones

Question: How will a MIUS drone, with only 3,800 lbs thrust and a 13,000 lb gross weight possibly take off a short aircraft carrier without a catapult? Small delta wings are not known for their low speed/high lift capability. If there is no drag at all, that level of thrust / weight gets you to abou...

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by kitplane01
Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:54 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Post War Ukrainian Air Force
Replies: 29
Views: 3206

Re: Post War Ukrainian Air Force

C-130s will be useful for reconstruction as well as war. Is there a sufficient supply of them used? I suppose CH-47 are also useful dual role. Not sure of many CH-47 frames available. bt This is crazy. A C130 costs about $8,000/hour to operate if someone gives you the airframe for free. A CH-47 is ...

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by kitplane01
Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:44 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Turkey's new Aircraft Carrier with only drones
Replies: 27
Views: 4169

Re: Turkey's new Aircraft Carrier with only drones

Actually not Baykar Akinci, but Baykar MIUS is planned to be used on carriers: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baykar_Bayraktar_MIUS Interesting. The original article says the aircraft carrier was to be composed of Bayraktar TB3. It's a serious step up (560 mph vs 130 mph, 3300 lbs vs 620 lbs, &quo...

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by kitplane01
Sun Apr 03, 2022 2:50 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Updated: Canada picks F-35 as CF-18 fighter replacement
Replies: 484
Views: 116794

Re: Updated: Canada picks F-35 as CF-18 fighter replacement

I’m curious if the A’s they order will have probes or a receptacle. Or both. The A’s range is more important than the C’s endurance, but that probe would be pretty nice. It would not matter too much for Canada, as our tanker fleet is also due for replacement, and the only contender is the Airbus A3...

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by kitplane01
Tue Mar 29, 2022 11:44 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Future of the Typhoon vs Rafale
Replies: 60
Views: 10535

Re: Future of the Typhoon vs Rafale

You can't compare a yoga ball to a marble - even that's being rather kind, honestly. The losses we are seeing in MODERN WARFARE with Ukraine are proof of my argument, you simply can't fly 4th gen or 4+ gen aircraft in contested airspace. You'll die. It absolutely is an on/off thing, which is why I ...

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by kitplane01
Tue Mar 29, 2022 6:10 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Future of the Typhoon vs Rafale
Replies: 60
Views: 10535

Re: Future of the Typhoon vs Rafale

It's NOT A STEALTH AIRCRAFT in any way / shape / form. Its' RCS is likely several times larger than the F-117, which was shot down by a (relatively) primitive SAM system decades ago. Stealth is not an on/off option. The RCS simply determines the range at which the aircraft can be picked up by a rad...

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by kitplane01
Tue Mar 29, 2022 6:08 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Future of the Typhoon vs Rafale
Replies: 60
Views: 10535

Re: Future of the Typhoon vs Rafale

Germany will order additional Eurofighter - maybe even replace the Tornados on a 1 : 1 base. The EF will also get upgrades for electronic warfare. This should sustain the EF line for some time to enable the FCAS transition. Maybe. Which will be better supported 30 years from, Rafale or Typhoon? Bec...

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by kitplane01
Tue Mar 29, 2022 6:06 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Future of the Typhoon vs Rafale
Replies: 60
Views: 10535

Re: Future of the Typhoon vs Rafale

Spain is ordering 20 more Tranche 4 Typhoons to replace its oldest Hornets. https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news-detail/spain-approves-eurofighter-buy-upgrades True! (Also, did you know there is no easily findable list of Rafale or Typhoon operators with a count of each. So I'll update my tables...

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by kitplane01
Tue Mar 29, 2022 12:00 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Future of the Typhoon vs Rafale
Replies: 60
Views: 10535

Future of the Typhoon vs Rafale

Typhoon operators Germany - 141 with 33 being retired and 38 new ones on order UK - 101 operational, 8 more withdraws planned Italy - 95 Spain - 68 Saudi Arabia - 72 with 48 on order (but the order is stalled and unlikely to be fulfilled) Qatar - 24 on order Kuwait - 28 on order Oman - 12 Total: 44...

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by kitplane01
Mon Mar 28, 2022 11:27 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Finland selects F-35A for F-18 replacement
Replies: 259
Views: 90700

Re: Finland selects F-35A for F-18 replacement

Was it LM or Finland that didn't want the F-16 bid. Typical competition do not specify a particular airplane. They specify a set of requirements and potential suppliers would provide a proposal of the aircraft that they think best fit the requirements. Sometimes the buyer provide money to prepare t...

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by kitplane01
Mon Mar 28, 2022 10:49 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Finland selects F-35A for F-18 replacement
Replies: 259
Views: 90700

Re: Finland selects F-35A for F-18 replacement

Why did the F-16 not bid on Finland's HX program? Maybe Finland wanted a plane that would be supported for the next 30+ years. Most western air forces are replacing their 16s with 35s. "To support the growing demand for new F-16 Fighting Falcon from partner nations, the U.S. Air Force has team...

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by kitplane01
Mon Mar 28, 2022 10:46 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Finland selects F-35A for F-18 replacement
Replies: 259
Views: 90700

Re: Finland selects F-35A for F-18 replacement

Why did the F-16 not bid on Finland's HX program? Maybe LM will make more money on the F-35 sale than F-16 or the F-16 would lose against the european competitors? Putting in a bid costs money, if not millions, at least tens if not hundreds of thousands out of pocket. Is it not the decision of LM a...

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