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by BealineV953
Tue Jun 23, 2020 9:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What is the future of LGW? What will it mean for the other hubs?
Replies: 86
Views: 10434

Re: What is the future of LGW? What will it mean for the other hubs?

In the 90s BA tried to grow LGW into a true hub, partly because many of their routes to key US destinations were 'stuck' at Gatwick. They marketed it as the hub without the hubbub, I think. easyJet did not buy any of BA's low-cost airlines for LGW slots. Go was based at STN and purchased from 3i BM...

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by BealineV953
Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Amendment Agreement for IAG's Acquisition of Air Europa
Replies: 444
Views: 90249

Re: Air Europa might stay independent.

Having long term monopoly pricing power in Spain is also kind of appealing to IAG... :-) Slightly off topic here.... So IAG will own Iberia , Iberia Express, Vueling , Air Europa, Level, and codeshare with Air Nostrom...? Who’s left in Spain without IAG influence...? Giving IAG monopoly power in Sp...

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by BealineV953
Thu Jun 18, 2020 2:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Amendment Agreement for IAG's Acquisition of Air Europa
Replies: 444
Views: 90249

Re: Air Europa might stay independent.

Giving IAG monopoly power in Spain is wrong. The reasons for rejecting this deal have not changed regardless of the pandemic. The regulators should not allow this to happen. The issue is that the "regulator" is the EU and they look at Spain as a piece of a common/open an larger EU market....

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by BealineV953
Thu Jun 18, 2020 2:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Amendment Agreement for IAG's Acquisition of Air Europa
Replies: 444
Views: 90249

Re: Air Europa might stay independent.

British airways isn't Lufthansa Group. They don't know how to properly run a group. They became lazy when they know Heathrow Slots are constrained. Which lead them to maintain majority in their home turf. On a competitive market, they would got crushed. Don't let them take over mainland Europe. Bri...

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by BealineV953
Thu Jun 18, 2020 2:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Amendment Agreement for IAG's Acquisition of Air Europa
Replies: 444
Views: 90249

Re: Air Europa might stay independent.

fcogafa wrote:
TUGMASTER wrote:
Slightly off topic here.... So IAG will own Iberia, Iberia Express, Vueling, Air Europa, Level, and codeshare with Air Nostrom...?
Who’s left in Spain without IAG influence...?


Volotea was offered slots to offset the deal


...and easyJet and Ryanair have significant operations in Spain.

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by BealineV953
Thu Jun 18, 2020 2:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Amendment Agreement for IAG's Acquisition of Air Europa
Replies: 444
Views: 90249

Re: Air Europa might stay independent.

https://www.turama.es/iberia-a-punto-de-cancelar-la-compra-de-air-europa Seems that the airline might stay independent as IAG is looking to save money with the current ongoing crisis. At the same time Air Europa might just accept the previous terms from the deal made with IB. Your thoughts? This th...

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by BealineV953
Thu Jun 11, 2020 7:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA fleet parking thread
Replies: 523
Views: 124872

Re: Five BA 747s to Teruel today

G-CIVN flew to Kemble today. BA Souce says that IVN will be scrapped. IVJ & IVL are at Kemble. A quick reminder, the pre-Coronavirus plan was for all BA 747s to be retired by February 2024, with the following numbers of 747s in the fleet at year end: • 2020: 25 • 2021: 20 • 2022: 12 • 2023: 3 F...

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by BealineV953
Thu Jun 11, 2020 7:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020
Replies: 472
Views: 111656

Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020

BealineV953 wrote:
BealineV953 wrote:
TUGMASTER wrote:
G-CIVF flew LHR-CWL today.....


...and G-CIVU positioned BOH-CWL yesterday, 05JUN, for maintenance.


G-CIVC positioned BOH-CWL today, 09JUN. BA Source states that this is for continued storage.


G-CIVW positioned BOH-CWL today, 11JUN.

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by BealineV953
Tue Jun 09, 2020 4:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA fleet parking thread
Replies: 523
Views: 124872

Re: Five BA 747s to Teruel today

A quick reminder, the plan was for all 747s to be retired by February 2024, with the following numbers of 747s in the fleet at year end: • 2020: 25 aircraft • 2021: 20 aircraft • 2022: 12 aircraft • 2023: 3 aircraft G-CIVL flew to Kemble today. I'm hearing that IVJ and IVN will go to Kemble later t...

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by BealineV953
Tue Jun 09, 2020 4:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA could make up to 12,000 employees redundant
Replies: 360
Views: 76207

Re: BA could make up to 12,000 employees redundant

As for the A380, of which BA has 12...do they factor into the future of BA? Hello. I don't mean to be unfriendly, honest, but this thread is about BA people and headcount. It would be good to stay on topic. Your question about the future of BA's A380s is a good one. Elsewhere there is a thread abou...

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by BealineV953
Tue Jun 09, 2020 4:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020
Replies: 472
Views: 111656

Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020

BealineV953 wrote:
TUGMASTER wrote:
G-CIVF flew LHR-CWL today.....


...and G-CIVU positioned BOH-CWL yesterday, 05JUN, for maintenance.


G-CIVC positioned BOH-CWL today, 09JUN. BA Source states that this is for continued storage.

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by BealineV953
Mon Jun 08, 2020 3:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA fleet parking thread
Replies: 523
Views: 124872

Re: Five BA 747s to Teruel today

Is there anyone out there from BA Network Development, Operations Planning or Ops Control that can give us a clue as to whether the 747s at Teruel will return to service? A quick reminder, the plan was for all 747s to be retired by February 2024, with the following numbers of 747s in the fleet at y...

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by BealineV953
Mon Jun 08, 2020 2:34 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Non photographed airliners?
Replies: 37
Views: 6422

Re: Non photographed airliners?

Braniff's 2nd 747-100, painted Green, often referred to as 'The Big Pickle'. It was rumored to have painted and ready for delivery to join up with 'The Great Pumpkin', only for Braniff to decline to take delivery of the aircraft. To date, no photographic evidence has yet to surface. There are model...

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by BealineV953
Sun Jun 07, 2020 6:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: All OW carriers to move T5 LHR
Replies: 38
Views: 7886

Re: Rumor: All OW carriers to move T5 LHR

AA Vasu Raja stated last year that AA was planning on moving into T5 https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1427813 I believe that this was to be JFK only, at least to start with. BA was to move flights to T3 to make gates available at T5. BA and AA would then be co-located at both LHR and...

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by BealineV953
Sun Jun 07, 2020 6:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: All OW carriers to move T5 LHR
Replies: 38
Views: 7886

Re: Rumor: All OW carriers to move T5 LHR

Maybe Heathrow Airport should complete the T2A building so that all airlines can use T2 and T5 in the foreseeable future. In the same time they can rebuild T3. The best time to do it before the passenger number go back to 60-70 millions mark. Good luck, by that time they will still be struggling to...

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by BealineV953
Sun Jun 07, 2020 6:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: All OW carriers to move T5 LHR
Replies: 38
Views: 7886

Re: Rumor: All OW carriers to move T5 LHR

My understanding is a move of other flights into T5 has a IT issue. LHR T5 has only BA systems, for other airlines they would need access to multi user sets, this would mean a complete hardware change of all PCs. You are correct, T5 has only BA (Amadeus / Fly) IT systems. There are no so called 'co...

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by BealineV953
Sun Jun 07, 2020 6:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: All OW carriers to move T5 LHR
Replies: 38
Views: 7886

Re: Rumor: All OW carriers to move T5 LHR

Was the long term plan to level T3 and rebuild it? It is of the oldest and out of date terminals? ! I believe the plan is still to level terminal 3 and build a terminal 2 extension in its place instead. I don't believe T3 was to be knocked down to be part of T2, rather to be linked to T5 so OW were...

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by BealineV953
Sat Jun 06, 2020 7:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020
Replies: 472
Views: 111656

Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020

TUGMASTER wrote:
G-CIVF flew LHR-CWL today.....


...and G-CIVU positioned BOH-CWL yesterday, 05JUN, for maintenance.

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by BealineV953
Sat Jun 06, 2020 2:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA could make up to 12,000 employees redundant
Replies: 360
Views: 76207

Re: BA could make up to 12,000 employees redundant

JumboMaiden wrote:
Is there a larger breakdown for redudancy numbers in other departments?
Cabin crew numbers are quoted excluding IBMs.


The Commercial team have been told that their headcount will be reduced by 33%.

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by BealineV953
Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: British Airways network updates
Replies: 583
Views: 91390

Re: BA cancels LHR-CHS for rest of 2020

As for thinking the company was close to going bust in 2009, wow! Even history has proved this was far from the truth! Move on! Okay, apologies this off topic but this needs to be addressed. As for 2009 - the airline was close to going below £1bn cash - below which credit card companies would have ...

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by BealineV953
Mon May 18, 2020 4:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 777 - 25 years in commercial service
Replies: 147
Views: 14747

Re: 777 - 25 years in commercial service

Time to get over the sacred-cow myth, fact is (except for anet) that beast is nothing special at all really. As for the aircraft being, as you put it "basic, uncomfortable noisy jet" that is "nothing special at all really". I'd argue that the 777, while not the first WB twin, pu...

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by BealineV953
Mon May 18, 2020 3:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 777 - 25 years in commercial service
Replies: 147
Views: 14747

Re: 777 - 25 years in commercial service

The 777 is very probably the noisiest widebody passenger jet still being manufactured into the 21st century, even the DC-10 felt quiet in comparison. And noise levels are not up to the airline, that’s a hard fact. . Do you have any factual evidence to back up your claim that the 777 is "probab...

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by BealineV953
Mon May 18, 2020 2:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: British Airways to take delivery of first 787-10 arriving at LHR around 8am on 21 May 2020
Replies: 90
Views: 19867

Re: British Airways to take delivery of first 787-10 arriving at LHR around 8am on 21 May 2020

Should be the first of many, the 78X is very well-suited to BA. In a perfect world they might be used as a drop in replacement for LGW 77Es, but LGW doesn't get much love even when times are good! LGW gets no capital investment in new aircraft. Since the based B732 fleet in the 1980s, they have tak...

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by BealineV953
Mon May 11, 2020 4:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic creditors aprove restructuring; (files for BK in US Court)
Replies: 1520
Views: 188661

Re: Virgin Atlantic needs government support?

Good points, selling something of value to prop up something of less or no value. It didn't work for Pan Am and I doubt it will for Virgin Atlantic. SRB does have some interesting associates. I don't think any of this will change the fact that the airline business will be radically different when w...

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by BealineV953
Mon May 11, 2020 4:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic creditors aprove restructuring; (files for BK in US Court)
Replies: 1520
Views: 188661

Re: Virgin Atlantic facing collapse

What is the actual brand fee? Thus it would be great to know ….some numbers for how much it costs per year currently and how much it would cost per year going forwards if they are going to use this as a rallying cry to oppose government support for VS. A detailed report in the Business section of T...

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by BealineV953
Mon May 11, 2020 3:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic creditors aprove restructuring; (files for BK in US Court)
Replies: 1520
Views: 188661

Re: Virgin Atlantic facing collapse

1) VS doesn't serve anywhere out of London non-stop that's not covered by other airlines. Now, if it wants to transform itself to be the lifeblood of northern england economy and build up Manchester and new castle, it should make that pitch now. Which is a pointless argument because it's providing ...

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by BealineV953
Mon May 11, 2020 3:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic creditors aprove restructuring; (files for BK in US Court)
Replies: 1520
Views: 188661

Re: Virgin Atlantic facing collapse

I wouldn’t necessarily see VS as an airline that has made air travel more affordable if they’re charging the same price as the main brand or sometimes more? Maybe at the beginning but not anymore Virgin does not compete on price. Virgin fares are typically the same as BA's. That's how competition w...

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by BealineV953
Fri May 08, 2020 10:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: old 70s/80s alliance question
Replies: 26
Views: 8501

Re: old 70s/80s alliance question

I recall BA had an association with UA in the 1980s. Both of their logos were slapped on everything in BA's terminals, including tickets and boarding passes. Joint BA/UA flight numbers would also be used. I don't know how UA reciprocated as I never used them at that time. There was also a time late...

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by BealineV953
Fri May 08, 2020 8:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: old 70s/80s alliance question
Replies: 26
Views: 8501

Re: old 70s/80s alliance question

I recall BA had an association with UA in the 1980s. Both of their logos were slapped on everything in BA's terminals, including tickets and boarding passes. Joint BA/UA flight numbers would also be used. I seem to remember Concorde was exempted from any co-branding. I don't know how UA reciprocate...

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by BealineV953
Wed May 06, 2020 1:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: old 70s/80s alliance question
Replies: 26
Views: 8501

Re: old 70s/80s alliance question

BOAC and later BA had "pooling" revenue sharing agreements with friendly competitors for want of a better term: QF and SA and IIRC AC come to mind. Back in the days with "friendly competition" and before deregulations there where many sort of cooperation, revenue share etc betwe...

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by BealineV953
Wed May 06, 2020 1:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: old 70s/80s alliance question
Replies: 26
Views: 8501

Re: old 70s/80s alliance question

You can not really call the 1960's - 1970's cooperation between SAS - THAI International an Alliance in the 'current' understanding of an airline partnership. In the 1960's you had the 'developed' world (North America and Europe) and the 'developing' world (pretty well everywhere else), or worse, p...

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by BealineV953
Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:34 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic creditors aprove restructuring; (files for BK in US Court)
Replies: 1520
Views: 188661

Re: Virgin Atlantic needs government support?

Unless the Govt can support every company, choices have to be made. If they give to VS, then they have to say ‘no’ to someone else. The question is ‘can VS find funds elsewhere’. If not, will any loan be repaid within a reasonable timescale. VS has two main markets, TATL and Caribbean. The first Bu...

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by BealineV953
Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic creditors aprove restructuring; (files for BK in US Court)
Replies: 1520
Views: 188661

Re: Virgin Atlantic needs government support?

Alliances and JV's are different. But you can take BOS-LHR. AA/BA and VS/DL are the only options. In terms of operating carriers, AA is not even operating it, it is just BA. So even during Bermuda II, there were 4 operating carriers, even UA flew BOS-LHR until 2002 or so, and now the choice is even...

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by BealineV953
Tue Apr 28, 2020 5:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic creditors aprove restructuring; (files for BK in US Court)
Replies: 1520
Views: 188661

Re: Virgin Atlantic needs government support?

Where you say "The truly anti-competitive nature of the TATL JV's" what exactly do you mean? In every market from Europe to and from North America the three alliances compete hard for business. For just about every origin and destination, each of the alliances will fight hard for a share ...

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by BealineV953
Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic creditors aprove restructuring; (files for BK in US Court)
Replies: 1520
Views: 188661

Re: Virgin Atlantic needs government support?

Even if what you say is true, try finding an investor in the current environment with that kind of cash, patience and risk tolerance. Based on the people that "are interested", VS will be divided up by vultures. There is not a single airline group that can invest in VS at the moment. VS h...

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by BealineV953
Mon Apr 27, 2020 3:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic creditors aprove restructuring; (files for BK in US Court)
Replies: 1520
Views: 188661

Re: Virgin Atlantic needs government support?

What if EK or EY takes over. Go head to head with BA and will give the Americans a run for their money on the Transatlantic routes. A non-UK or EU organisation can not own more than 49% of a UK airline. Air Service Agreements between the UK and other governments require that an airline nominated by...

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by BealineV953
Mon Apr 27, 2020 3:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic creditors aprove restructuring; (files for BK in US Court)
Replies: 1520
Views: 188661

Re: Virgin Atlantic needs government support?

Can someone confirm if the 0.6% = £170 million in 2019 is true? Maybe this is where you should have started. Just because there is a royalty agreement in place does not mean the Virgin Group is receiving the royalties. The piece in The Times said that the undisclosed royalty was paid to Virgin Ente...

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by BealineV953
Mon Apr 27, 2020 12:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic creditors aprove restructuring; (files for BK in US Court)
Replies: 1520
Views: 188661

Re: Virgin Atlantic needs government support?

jetwet1 wrote:
Does anyone know if VS pays the Virgin Group a fee like every other non wholly owned Virgin company ?


A detailed report in the Business section of The Times on 22nd April states that Virgin Atlantic pays an "undisclosed" royalty to Virgin Enterprises.

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by BealineV953
Sun Apr 26, 2020 5:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic creditors aprove restructuring; (files for BK in US Court)
Replies: 1520
Views: 188661

Re: Virgin Atlantic needs government support?

this slot argument. they want more slots the ones they have already they can't turn a profit yet they want more...I don't understand the logic. and this argument of fly planes profitably how can you do that if you're making an operating loss? BA got them for free and BA's competitors have to chip i...

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by BealineV953
Wed Apr 22, 2020 5:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: British Airways Utopia Livery CLASSIC VIDEOS 1998-2001
Replies: 30
Views: 5305

Re: British Airways Utopia Livery CLASSIC VIDEOS 1998-2001

There is a website - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Airways_ethnic_liveries I haven't checked the accuracy of it 100% but it looks pretty complete. . Thanks for the link. The Wikipedia page appears to show all the World Images, although I wouldn't include British Blend, Olympic and Poppy. Th...

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by BealineV953
Wed Apr 22, 2020 3:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: British Airways Utopia Livery CLASSIC VIDEOS 1998-2001
Replies: 30
Views: 5305

Re: British Airways Utopia Livery CLASSIC VIDEOS 1998-2001

I never understood the hate for the "World tails". I thought it was brilliant, celebrating the art of many countries and cultures. It is a shame that short sighted and closed minded politicians pressured BA into discontinuing the program. I saw some lovely designs that were never to see t...

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by BealineV953
Wed Apr 22, 2020 3:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: British Airways Utopia Livery CLASSIC VIDEOS 1998-2001
Replies: 30
Views: 5305

Re: British Airways Utopia Livery CLASSIC VIDEOS 1998-2001

I think only a quarter or so world images were released. BA had apparently planned for several more to be released before the project was canceled. . Twenty-six different images were used on BA aircraft, including one that was used only on a Brymon DHC-8. The plan was to use around fifty. There wer...

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by BealineV953
Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020
Replies: 472
Views: 111656

Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020

I doubt that the BA B747 that have gone to St Athan, Tereul and Kemble will fly again. First, many thanks to Virginflyer for your excellent posts. Regarding BA’s 747s, elsewhere is another thread (Updated: BA fleet parking, at 40+ including 747s, A380s) detailing the BA aircraft (all types) that ha...

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by BealineV953
Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA fleet parking thread
Replies: 523
Views: 124872

Re: Five BA 747s to Teruel today

I know there are some BA pilots on this forum, who might be able to post their knowledge to cover these topics. Is there anyone out there from BA Network Development, Operations Planning or Ops Control that can give us a clue as to whether the 747s at Teruel will return to service? G-CIVL flew to K...

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by BealineV953
Wed Apr 15, 2020 2:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA fleet parking thread
Replies: 523
Views: 124872

Re: Updated: BA fleet parking, at 40+ including 747s, A380s

I wonder how the fleet plans will change after covid. Even with the 380s people seem confident they’ll come back for BA but I believe even if they do certainly not all will and also the accelerated 747 retirements do they take on more 350s? Interesting times ahead This is on ch-aviation: IAG Intern...

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by BealineV953
Wed Apr 15, 2020 9:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic creditors aprove restructuring; (files for BK in US Court)
Replies: 1520
Views: 188661

Re: Virgin Atlantic needs government support?

In the early 1980s BA absolutely did not have an ‘unreasonably high’ influence over Government policy. The situation was far more complicated than that. The Conservative Government of 1979 onwards believed in a free market economy and positively encouraged competition. It makes the decision by Mrs ...

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by BealineV953
Tue Apr 14, 2020 6:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA fleet parking thread
Replies: 523
Views: 124872

Re: Five BA 747s to Teruel today

G-CIVD - May 2020 G-CIVH - Jun 2020 G-CIVJ - Jun 2020 G-CIVI - Oct 2020 G-CIVL - Nov 2020 G-CIVK - Jan 2021 G-CIVN - Feb 2021 My guess is that if the 747 fleet is to be reduced, it will be some or all of those will be retired earlier than planned. I know there are some BA pilots on this forum, who ...

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by BealineV953
Tue Apr 14, 2020 6:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020
Replies: 472
Views: 111656

Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020

G-CIVL seems to be retired for good. Was ferried to Kemble earlier that day and I can't remember any 747 which has flown out of there on it's own wings. 1997 build. , You'll probably be right in the end but, according to http://www.thebasource.com, it's stored for now and will be among the last air...

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by BealineV953
Mon Apr 13, 2020 2:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic creditors aprove restructuring; (files for BK in US Court)
Replies: 1520
Views: 188661

Re: Virgin Atlantic needs government support?

To answer your points. 1) VS doesn't serve anywhere out of London non-stop that's not covered by other airlines. Now, if it wants to transform itself to be the lifeblood of northern england economy and build up Manchester and new castle, it should make that pitch now. 2) Yet, there has been no shor...

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by BealineV953
Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Virgin Atlantic creditors aprove restructuring; (files for BK in US Court)
Replies: 1520
Views: 188661

Re: Virgin Atlantic needs government support?

It's pretty well documented the predatory pricing and other generally dodgy tactics that BA "did" against Laker. . For a factual, impartial account of the reasons Laker Airways failed I strongly recommend ‘The Rise And fall Of Freddie Laker’ by Howard Banks, published in 1982. Banks was I...

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