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by HPRamper
Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Peak Season 2020 Cargo/Express Discussion Thread
Replies: 839
Views: 69687

Re: Peak Season 2020 Cargo/Express Discussion Thread

FDX has 2 WGN with one spare operating since late October MEM-ONT-MEM T-F, MEM-LAX-MEM Mondays, Saturdays, Sundays MEM-HNL-ONT-MEM, MEM-ONT-MEM. December starts MEM-SLC-MEM T-F, MEM-SMF-MEM Saturdays December adds 5 Atlas 747, 1 767 as previously shown 1 Amerijet 767 MEM-VCP-MEM 1 777F MEM-STN-MEM ...

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by HPRamper
Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Peak Season 2020 Cargo/Express Discussion Thread
Replies: 839
Views: 69687

Re: Peak Season 2020 Cargo/Express Discussion Thread

tofen wrote:

Talk about the devil. 0B-2059-P is in the air out of Kingman going east.
Back to Florida maybe?

Out over the Gulf, indeed headed in a South Florida direction.

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by HPRamper
Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Peak Season 2020 Cargo/Express Discussion Thread
Replies: 839
Views: 69687

Re: Peak Season 2020 Cargo/Express Discussion Thread

My money is on those birds flying exclusively for UPS through Christmas. FX may have had dibs but passed on the chance. You guys got the two that, in my unscientific survey, seem to be the most-reliable: 581JN and 799JN, plus one that has also been pretty-reliable, 513SN. I still don't want to see ...

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by HPRamper
Mon Nov 23, 2020 9:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Freight carts detach and crash into a parked Alaska E175
Replies: 30
Views: 8163

Re: Freight carts detach and crash into a parked Alaska E175

Hitch ring failed, according to the pics. Still, it appears he may have been going too fast? No idea what the ramp and road speed limits are ar SEA. As I said earlier, read the report at the end of the video. The hitch ring shearing off was a result of it hitting the aircraft, and was the ring in-b...

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by HPRamper
Mon Nov 23, 2020 9:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Peak Season 2020 Cargo/Express Discussion Thread
Replies: 839
Views: 69687

Re: Peak Season 2020 Cargo/Express Discussion Thread

WolfPDX wrote:
N543JN is currently doing a SDF-PDX flight for UPS atm as wgn2976. So it does seem that a few of the WGN mds are swinging both ways.

My money is on those birds flying exclusively for UPS through Christmas. FX may have had dibs but passed on the chance.

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by HPRamper
Mon Nov 23, 2020 9:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Peak Season 2020 Cargo/Express Discussion Thread
Replies: 839
Views: 69687

Re: Peak Season 2020 Cargo/Express Discussion Thread

I wonder if N756CA broke down in PVG. She's been sitting there for over 40 hours now. Maybe that's why they sent N919CA to do the UPS work instead. Really interesting to see Longtail doing work for UPS. Do they often use foreign lift during peak? I thought that would be a no-no union wise. I too am...

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by HPRamper
Mon Nov 23, 2020 6:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Peak Season 2020 Cargo/Express Discussion Thread
Replies: 839
Views: 69687

Re: Peak Season 2020 Cargo/Express Discussion Thread

FX is on track to take delivery of three 767s just this month, two already delivered and a third had its B1 flight yesterday, so maybe they were hedging by reserving Western Global birds that they won't actually use or need. Fingers crossed.

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by HPRamper
Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Peak Season 2020 Cargo/Express Discussion Thread
Replies: 839
Views: 69687

Re: Peak Season 2020 Cargo/Express Discussion Thread

543JN, 512JN and 415JN -- Western Global MD11s -- moved or are moving from LAX to ONT, early on Monday, 11/23. I think we know who that means they're about to be working for... It's not as easy to tell as it used to be anymore. FX just opened ONT as a regional hub operation, not just a ramp anymore...

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by HPRamper
Mon Nov 23, 2020 12:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Peak Season 2020 Cargo/Express Discussion Thread
Replies: 839
Views: 69687

Re: Peak Season 2020 Cargo/Express Discussion Thread

543JN, 512JN and 415JN -- Western Global MD11s -- moved or are moving from LAX to ONT, early on Monday, 11/23. I think we know who that means they're about to be working for... It's not as easy to tell as it used to be anymore. FX just opened ONT as a regional hub operation, not just a ramp anymore...

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by HPRamper
Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Peak Season 2020 Cargo/Express Discussion Thread
Replies: 839
Views: 69687

Re: Peak Season 2020 Cargo/Express Discussion Thread

So far seems really interesting: UPS doesn't appear to be taking on as much early on. Remember last year having 2 Western Global's at EWR every day along with the Atlas 747. Makes me wonder if the enlarged fleet (about 7 767s and 5 748s) when compared to last year will limit what is seen. Assuming ...

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by HPRamper
Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Peak Season 2020 Cargo/Express Discussion Thread
Replies: 839
Views: 69687

Re: Peak Season 2020 Cargo/Express Discussion Thread

So more Western Global fun. 411SN has been at SHV for 2 weeks, but 412SN has been chugging along. After doing a Middle East flight, it flew East to ICN, where it sat for a day and then decided to fly down to HKG for a load. Did that, flew back to ICN rather than nonstop to ANC. Two hours after arri...

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by HPRamper
Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Peak Season 2020 Cargo/Express Discussion Thread
Replies: 839
Views: 69687

Re: Peak Season 2020 Cargo/Express Discussion Thread

Again, there's a little of YMMV, but when it's busy, the bottom line is that you have to run more flights to replace the larger aircraft that had been used. It also explains why you would put up with a carrier like Skybus to do some of these runs, because their DC8 can handle it with one trip, or p...

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by HPRamper
Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Peak Season 2020 Cargo/Express Discussion Thread
Replies: 839
Views: 69687

Re: Peak Season 2020 Cargo/Express Discussion Thread

Update on WGA operations for FedEx - 4 actively flying, 4 others on reserve with no movements as of yet. None of the active 4 are broken as of today, subject to change at any time. Active: N513SN looks to be flying MEM-HNL-MEM or something similar. N581JN flying MEM-LAX-MEM N799JN flying MEM-HNL-ONT...

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by HPRamper
Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Peak Season 2020 Cargo/Express Discussion Thread
Replies: 839
Views: 69687

Re: Peak Season 2020 Cargo/Express Discussion Thread

I got the Atlas Air information. UPS operations (as of NOV20) N429MC : SDF-IAH-SDF (Current) N471MC : SDF-EWR-SDF (Current) N473MC : SDF-EWR-SDF (Starts NOV24, 471 goes to charter operations) N1511A : SDF-OMA-SDF (Starts DEC1) N486MC : SDF-JFK-SDF (Starts DEC14) N489MC : SDF-PHL-SDF (Starts DEC15) ...

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by HPRamper
Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: COVID-19 Cargo Discussion Thread (Cargo Operators and Passenger Airlines Operating Cargo Only Flights)
Replies: 634
Views: 89587

Re: COVID-19 Cargo Discussion Thread (Cargo Operators and Passenger Airlines Operating Cargo Only Flights)

[quote="wjcandee"][/quote] All the integrators - and Amazon, by and large, is now included in this - are at peak levels now. Add to that some newly-reannounced lockdowns in several states which will drive even more people online....and, well, here we are. I heard we are already refusing sh...

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by HPRamper
Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UPS Signs 5 Year Lease To Add Gary Airport To Its Cargo Network
Replies: 33
Views: 7791

Re: UPS Signs 5 Year Lease To Add Gary Airport To Its Cargo Network

This is really a no-brainer. The Chicagoland area is massive. Look at the L.A. Basin and how many airports there support integrator flights. Especially with E-commerce and the Amazon volume flowing into the UPS network.

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by HPRamper
Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UPS fleet
Replies: 127
Views: 31826

Re: UPS fleet

The low utilization belief that everyone has on here is definitely more a thing of the past. Do they run the fleets as hard as B6/WN? Absolutely not. Low utilization compared to most passenger carriers was the only comparison I was attempting to make. From what I recall being told, UPS/FDX are roug...

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by HPRamper
Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Volcano erupts in Kamchatka Russia (Far East), impact on TPAC flights?
Replies: 9
Views: 2926

Re: Volcano erupts in Kamchatka Russia (Far East), impact on TPAC flights?

Plenty of cargo flights operating that were affected. We had a 777 TPE-MEM divert here to SEA for a fuel stop.

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by HPRamper
Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:25 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SNA 2021 Slot Allocation - AC/G4/SY Awarded Slots
Replies: 57
Views: 9117

Re: SNA 2021 Slot Allocation - AC/G4/SY Awarded Slots

Two of the four the all-cargo allocations have been awarded to WN and UA, one each. FX and 5X will continue with their current allocations. So nothing changes for 5X and FX basically? 5X. 4/7 days a week. Fx. 5/7 days a week. Do you think their could ever be a increase in cargo demand from SNA? No....

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by HPRamper
Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Fedex Feeder Timing
Replies: 17
Views: 5003

Re: Fedex Feeder Timing

Billings is another interesting ‘mini hub’. Cape Air provides essential air service to several small Montana towns/cities. Alpine Air/Richland Aviation/Corporate Air provide regional cargo service for UPS/USPS In Montana, UPS and the USPS stage their feeders out of Billings, BIL has the state's UPS...

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by HPRamper
Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Fedex Feeder Timing
Replies: 17
Views: 5003

Re: Fedex Feeder Timing

High priority freight - First Overnight, medical Priority Alert, documents. They need to get that freight to the markets ASAP because the main aircraft isn't always going to get there in time for everything to be sorted and on the road in time for on-time delivery. Those couriers start their day hou...

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by HPRamper
Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:21 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: COVID-19 Cargo Discussion Thread (Cargo Operators and Passenger Airlines Operating Cargo Only Flights)
Replies: 634
Views: 89587

Re: COVID-19 Cargo Discussion Thread (Cargo Operators and Passenger Airlines Operating Cargo Only Flights)

Should we even talk about Western Global?? 344KD RSW 10/8 356KD OSC 10/2 411SN Flying Asia reserved for FX peak 412SN RSW 9/29 415JN OSC 7/1 reserved for FX peak 512JN SHV 10/2 513SN Flying Fedex looks like mainly MEM-ONT-MEM RUNS 581JN Flying Fedex MEM-HNL-ONT-MEM runs 799JN Flying Fedex MEM-ONT-M...

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by HPRamper
Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020
Replies: 1891
Views: 234130

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020

MGE7200/7201 HNL-SEA-LAX-HNL Is that the 757 in Asia Pacific colors I see parked across from me most days? I noted they have been loading freight into the bellies from UPS containers, although UPS doesn't operate their own planes into SEA. If it's on the Lagoon Drive side, that's more likely to be ...

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by HPRamper
Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020
Replies: 1891
Views: 234130

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020

MO11 wrote:
MGE7200/7201 HNL-SEA-LAX-HNL

Is that the 757 in Asia Pacific colors I see parked across from me most days? I noted they have been loading freight into the bellies from UPS containers, although UPS doesn't operate their own planes into SEA.

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by HPRamper
Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: First New-Build ATR-72 Freighter Takes Flight
Replies: 50
Views: 11866

Re: First New-Build ATR-72 Freighter Takes Flight

This is very cool. When I initially read the thread starter, I was impressed by the range/payload combination they were able to come up with. My first thought was northern Canada and most of Alaska plus the remote parts of the US Pacific NW. This ATR is too much plane for most of the small markets....

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by HPRamper
Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020
Replies: 1891
Views: 234130

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020

N313AZ has been having Leading Edge slat issues. My guess is it would have something to do with that. Maybe they had an issue on climb out and elected to return. Probably did a no flap landing..hence the fire department for hot brakes. ATN3402 from SEA to ANC just turned around after about 20 minut...

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by HPRamper
Tue Aug 11, 2020 1:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020
Replies: 1891
Views: 234130

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020

ATN3402 from SEA to ANC just turned around after about 20 minutes in flight and landed again, they momentarily closed the runway and the fire department met them immediately after landing. All seems ok, but after being cleared by fire they taxied back to the Amazon ramp facility. Tail N313AZ.

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by HPRamper
Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:44 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: How come even after all the 777Fs coming off the line, MD-11Fs are still going strong?
Replies: 70
Views: 14628

Re: How come even after all the 777Fs coming off the line, MD-11Fs are still going strong?

Deepgreen wrote:
I must admit that I hadn't realised FX still had any DC-10s (or, indeed, that there were any civil DC-10s still flying at all!).

Still 21 active 10s for FedEx.

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by HPRamper
Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020
Replies: 1891
Views: 234130

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020

Amazon forbade Ground's use temporarily because it saw that Ground sucked before FedEx did (or at least would admit). Oh, FedEx Corp has always known Ground sucked. Ground has sucked since the beginning and has gotten steadily worse as volumes increased. They hide behind that PR-speak you mention. ...

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by HPRamper
Wed Aug 05, 2020 10:57 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: How come even after all the 777Fs coming off the line, MD-11Fs are still going strong?
Replies: 70
Views: 14628

Re: How come even after all the 777Fs coming off the line, MD-11Fs are still going strong?

FedEx continues to fly their DC-10s and MD-11s as they usually only make about two flights a night and most likely are not that high on cycles or hours. FedEx and others will fly them as long as they do not become maintenance hogs or need a major HVM. The cost of extra Jet-A is not enough to cause ...

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by HPRamper
Thu Jul 23, 2020 3:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA 2020 Q2 results
Replies: 56
Views: 11805

Re: AA Q2 results

Did He very well should thank us, his old team at HP, for making it possible for him and AA being where they are today - without AWA, US would have liquidated and AA would have long ago had their lunch eaten by the other big 3 and declared BK or been absorbed. Thank you. Thank you for devaluing AAd...

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by HPRamper
Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA 2020 Q2 results
Replies: 56
Views: 11805

Re: AA Q2 results

Did he make a mistake? Sure but as the youngest of three boys it's not rare for my mom to call me three names before getting to mine. Let's not overblow it. I appreciated his comments about "higher than forecast" revenue. The problem with the AA strategy at this point honestly is that the...

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by HPRamper
Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Spirit Airlines Q2 earnings
Replies: 20
Views: 5252

Re: Spirit Airlines Q2 earnings

There is nothing resembling a vendetta or personal affront in this post. None of the airline financials look good and that is reflected on all earnings reports.

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by HPRamper
Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes for 7/21/2020:AUGUST SINKING;EK Drops EWR-DXB; DL Drops MLI-MSP; Big Cuts for DL/NK
Replies: 80
Views: 16165

Re: OAG Changes for 7/21/2020:AUGUST SINKING;EK Drops EWR-DXB; DL Drops MLI-MSP; Big Cuts for DL/NK

GEG-SEA runs through Sept 5. Purely "leisure grab" traffic I'm told. WN showing how swift and creative and risk-taking it is right now. Used to run 7-8x daily in early 2000's. GEG, Northern Idaho traditionally popular spots for SEA area in summer - and vice versa (although I have no idea ...

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by HPRamper
Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes for 7/21/2020:AUGUST SINKING;EK Drops EWR-DXB; DL Drops MLI-MSP; Big Cuts for DL/NK
Replies: 80
Views: 16165

Re: OAG Changes for 7/21/2020:AUGUST SINKING;EK Drops EWR-DXB; DL Drops MLI-MSP; Big Cuts for DL/NK

KG DEN-TEX OCT 0>0.3[0.5] NOV 0>1.0[0.3] DEC 0>1.0[1.3] JAN 0>0.9[1.2] FEB 0>1.1[1.7] MAR 0>0.6[1.7] Last week, Key Lime / Denver Air dropped several routes, including TVF, and we speculated it must have been a misfile. If this is the only route that's being refiled, maybe it means Thief River Fall...

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by HPRamper
Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: FedEx and it’s airborne ‘sweep’ aircraft
Replies: 37
Views: 12167

Re: FedEx and it’s airborne ‘sweep’ aircraft

It's my understanding that FX carries almost all overnight and two day Priority mail. Not sure about first class? Haven't seen first class mail loaded onto a passenger flight in years and years, but maybe they still do? I think it's something like 80% of the domestic Priority mail. First class is s...

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by HPRamper
Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: FedEx and it’s airborne ‘sweep’ aircraft
Replies: 37
Views: 12167

Re: FedEx and it’s airborne ‘sweep’ aircraft

KPWM plane was for LL Bean nightly, if you’ve heard of the company. They use UPS and USPS, but thanks anyway. A great portion of the USPS freight is carried on the FedEx plane anyway due to the postal contract. Many markets of similar size have a larger plane on the evening side - A300 or 767 - and...

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by HPRamper
Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: FedEx and it’s airborne ‘sweep’ aircraft
Replies: 37
Views: 12167

Re: FedEx and it’s airborne ‘sweep’ aircraft

The "flying spare" has not been in operation for many years now, a decade if not more. Now it's handled by sweep flights which are planned to be last out of a market so they pass near other cities that may need a recovery.

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by HPRamper
Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020
Replies: 1891
Views: 234130

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020

This is one of those wanderings in how other carriers are handling the "coronavirus peak" My mother ordered some items from Joann Fabrics. They shipped the item on May 7th via FedEx Ground. Per the return address it came out of 4801 Ulmerton Rd in Clearwater, FL. This location is clearly ...

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by HPRamper
Sun May 31, 2020 5:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UPS / FDX / Atlas scheduled vs charter % ?
Replies: 26
Views: 2647

Re: UPS / FDX / Atlas scheduled vs charter % ?

FedEx is running a LOT of USPS charters right now. Post office volume is bonkers at the moment. My market is running an additional flight most mornings, including weekends, that is pure 100% USPS freight. Earlier on there were also PPE charters going to China - and then in the other direction a mon...

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by HPRamper
Sat May 30, 2020 2:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UPS / FDX / Atlas scheduled vs charter % ?
Replies: 26
Views: 2647

Re: UPS / FDX / Atlas scheduled vs charter % ?

FedEx is running a LOT of USPS charters right now. Post office volume is bonkers at the moment. My market is running an additional flight most mornings, including weekends, that is pure 100% USPS freight. Earlier on there were also PPE charters going to China - and then in the other direction a mont...

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by HPRamper
Sat May 23, 2020 1:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cessna SkyCourier Development and Testing Thread
Replies: 381
Views: 34362

Re: Cessna SkyCourier Development and Testing Thread

I hope it works great for FedEX and they order another batch or two. Somehow I feel that 50+ will be delivered in the freight version before the pax version is picked up. This pandemic has frozen nearly all new orders for possibly a year, then only slowly will it rise. If it turns out to be a good ...

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by HPRamper
Wed May 20, 2020 9:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cessna SkyCourier Development and Testing Thread
Replies: 381
Views: 34362

Re: First SkyCourier Wings Mated

This is great news. I'm very excited for the SkyCourier. In many ways, a modern DC-3. Huh? It's a 19-pax / 2.5 tonne, unpressurised, high-wing turboprop; a configuration that's been tried about 30 times since the DC-3. What's so exciting? The fact that it says 'Cessna' on it? It's a modern Skyvan e...

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by HPRamper
Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: COVID-19 Cargo Discussion Thread (Cargo Operators and Passenger Airlines Operating Cargo Only Flights)
Replies: 634
Views: 89587

Re: FedEx and UPS rule the skies over the U.S.

I have been noting a ton of FedEx planes coming in/out of IAD from MEM, ANC, EWR, etc. on Flightaware. Way more than unusual I believe. Anyone have any idea why there is so much traffic these days? Because everyone is home and ordering everything they can online. Package boys haven’t slowed down. I...

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by HPRamper
Thu Apr 09, 2020 9:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020
Replies: 1891
Views: 234130

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020

I recently had a Kohl's package shipped via USPS First Class that took 6 days to move between the San Bernardino CA Distribution Center and the Phoenix AZ Distribution Center Annex. Since this is a Zone 4 shipment, it most likely went via ground transportation (Local Zone and Zones 1-4 are usually ...

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by HPRamper
Wed Apr 08, 2020 9:35 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020
Replies: 1891
Views: 234130

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020

I recently had a Kohl's package shipped via USPS First Class that took 6 days to move between the San Bernardino CA Distribution Center and the Phoenix AZ Distribution Center Annex. Since this is a Zone 4 shipment, it most likely went via ground transportation (Local Zone and Zones 1-4 are usually ...

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by HPRamper
Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:49 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: American Carriers after COVID-19
Replies: 15
Views: 3803

Re: American Carriers after COVID-19

I think domestic flying will rebound before international flying. It’s possible that our social distancing restrictions end long before other countries are ready to accept visitors. They are different factors to consider on this issue: - Will the epidemic end faster in the US than in other parts of...

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by HPRamper
Tue Mar 24, 2020 9:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020
Replies: 1891
Views: 234130

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2020

5Y3716 had 109,000 lbs onboard yesterday. 5Y3718 RIV-HNL which leaves a couple hours later had 76,000 lbs onboard. Wow. I had been under the impression that these flights tended to cube out long before they weight-out. 109,000lbs of payload is almost 50,000kg, which is starting to approach the max ...

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by HPRamper
Tue Mar 24, 2020 2:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing to Restart Washington State Aircraft Production
Replies: 144
Views: 19387

Re: Boeing to Stop Washington State Aircraft Production

Folks, isn`t it a wise thing to do at this moment ? What Boeing will gain if thousands of there high skilled workers die ? Nothing at all ! This has to be a joke, thousands you say. I didn't know folks at Boeing plants were all in their late 60s, 70s, and 80s. For all the death in Italy, they are a...

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by HPRamper
Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing to Restart Washington State Aircraft Production
Replies: 144
Views: 19387

Re: Boeing to Stop Washington State Aircraft Production

Folks, isn`t it a wise thing to do at this moment ? What Boeing will gain if thousands of there high skilled workers die ? Nothing at all ! It is prudent. A bit late, in the opinion of many up here in the area. A lot of Boeing employees are pretty mad about it, that they had to come in to work when...

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