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by RoySFlying
Wed Jun 07, 2017 2:19 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: German Woman Fined 1,350 Euros for Sharing Anti-Immigrant Joke on Facebook
Replies: 81
Views: 3008

Re: German Woman Fined 1,350 Euros for Sharing Anti-Immigrant Joke on Facebook

Sorry, I'd figured you are a US citizen. No problem. So the constitution has to say that and tell you exactly how it can and can't be limited. Which indicates that abstract "human rights" are no more real than common sense. If something is limited it is no longer an "absolute and ind...

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by RoySFlying
Wed Jun 07, 2017 1:53 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: German Woman Fined 1,350 Euros for Sharing Anti-Immigrant Joke on Facebook
Replies: 81
Views: 3008

Re: German Woman Fined 1,350 Euros for Sharing Anti-Immigrant Joke on Facebook

And who has suggested that lying isn't speech? You, because, speech is restricted and not free. Well it is true that speech is restricted. Others can decide whether that is desirable or not but the fact of it remains. which your constitution pretty clearly says Congress shall not do My constitution...

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by RoySFlying
Wed Jun 07, 2017 1:30 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: German Woman Fined 1,350 Euros for Sharing Anti-Immigrant Joke on Facebook
Replies: 81
Views: 3008

Re: German Woman Fined 1,350 Euros for Sharing Anti-Immigrant Joke on Facebook

A persons property... and how is convincing someone to give you money by lying to them not speech? Best regards Thomas I have yet to meet a cow that owned property (although some people have willed their estates to their cats) and I have not been introduced a car that owned property, so yes a perso...

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by RoySFlying
Wed Jun 07, 2017 1:14 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: German Woman Fined 1,350 Euros for Sharing Anti-Immigrant Joke on Facebook
Replies: 81
Views: 3008

Re: German Woman Fined 1,350 Euros for Sharing Anti-Immigrant Joke on Facebook

Fraud/cons often rely on talking someone into giving you money. That is just speech, yet can land you in prison. Property is protected against lies, people are not... really sick concept. Nonsense! You can stand in front of a building and tell lies about it all day and the worst that will happen is...

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by RoySFlying
Wed Jun 07, 2017 1:05 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: German Woman Fined 1,350 Euros for Sharing Anti-Immigrant Joke on Facebook
Replies: 81
Views: 3008

Re: German Woman Fined 1,350 Euros for Sharing Anti-Immigrant Joke on Facebook

Those laws have to stand up constitutional scrutiny True, but the point is that the constitution is not something written in stone at God's direction but on paper by men. It is a general guide setting up ideals to aspire to but allowing limitations in practice. This is why we see the Art X followed...

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by RoySFlying
Wed Jun 07, 2017 12:41 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: German Woman Fined 1,350 Euros for Sharing Anti-Immigrant Joke on Facebook
Replies: 81
Views: 3008

Re: German Woman Fined 1,350 Euros for Sharing Anti-Immigrant Joke on Facebook

The government doesn't decide that. The government doesn't maybe, but the legislature does. Some people tend to view the two as interchangeable, particularly in countries where the government is composed of members of the largest party in the legislature and can set the parliamentary agenda. As the...

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by RoySFlying
Wed Jun 07, 2017 12:15 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: German Woman Fined 1,350 Euros for Sharing Anti-Immigrant Joke on Facebook
Replies: 81
Views: 3008

Re: German Woman Fined 1,350 Euros for Sharing Anti-Immigrant Joke on Facebook

It is not for the government to decide what a person can or cannot say. I wholeheartedly agree that freedom of speech is essential and that with freedom comes responsibility. Yet most if not all countries have restrictions on that freedom. Germany, France and Austria (for example) make it a crime t...

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by RoySFlying
Mon Jun 05, 2017 8:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Bahrain, Egypt and KSA closed their airspace for Qatar
Replies: 681
Views: 153377

Re: Breaking: Bahrain, Egypt and KSA closed their airspace for Qatar

will residents from UAE be barred from Qatar? The statement issued by the UAE prohibits UAE nationals from traveling to or through Qatar. Failure to comply can result in imprisonment. During flight, will QR have to bypass the UAE, Bahrain or KSA skies in order to reach other destinations? From the ...

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by RoySFlying
Mon Jun 05, 2017 8:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Bahrain, Egypt and KSA closed their airspace for Qatar
Replies: 681
Views: 153377

Re: Breaking: Bahrain, Egypt and KSA closed their airspace for Qatar

Following a directive from the UAE government, Emirates has announced that it will suspend its flights to and from Doha until further notice, starting from the morning of 6 June 2017. The last DXB-DOH flight EK847 will depart at 02:30am on 6 June. The last flight from DOH-DXB will depart as EK848 at...

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by RoySFlying
Mon Jun 05, 2017 7:08 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: What's going on with Qatar?
Replies: 72
Views: 5382

Re: What's going on with Qatar?

This has been simmering for some time and it is not the first time that relations with Qatar have been cut, though the previous rupture did not involve cutting land, air and sea links. There is a bit of rivalry going on. While Saudi Arabia has attempted to use its location as the keeper of the holy ...

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by RoySFlying
Mon Jun 05, 2017 6:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Bahrain, Egypt and KSA closed their airspace for Qatar
Replies: 681
Views: 153377

Re: Breaking: Bahrain, Egypt and KSA closed their airspace for Qatar

Well, if anyone has noticed the FIR maps, Qatar really doesnt have an airspace. Its all under Bahrain airspace. Flight Information Regions and territorial airspace are not synonymous. Flight information and alerts can be managed within a region that covers several countries but that does not mean t...

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by RoySFlying
Mon Jun 05, 2017 6:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Bahrain, Egypt and KSA closed their airspace for Qatar
Replies: 681
Views: 153377

Re: Breaking: Bahrain, Egypt and KSA closed their airspace for Qatar

HOLD ON I have not seen in reports that KSA and UAE airspace has been closed to Qatari carriers. Saudi television reported that airspace would be closed to Qatar. See towards the end of the video, where the newsreader states "'to prevent the passage of land, airspace and territorial waters in ...

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by RoySFlying
Mon Jun 05, 2017 3:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Bahrain, Egypt and KSA closed their airspace for Qatar
Replies: 681
Views: 153377

Re: Breaking: Bahrain, Egypt and KSA closed their airspace for Qatar

PerfectGriffin wrote:
They fly nearly 30x daily to the UAE alone.
And they are effectively surrounded by the UAE and KSA. Though they can still fly up the Gulf and through Iranian airspace, this represents a serious detour in may instances.

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by RoySFlying
Mon Jun 05, 2017 3:55 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Bahrain, Egypt and KSA closed their airspace for Qatar
Replies: 681
Views: 153377

Re: Breaking: Bahrain, Egypt and KSA closed their airspace for Qatar

Qatari citizens in the region have been given 14 days to leave the country for security and precautionary reasons. All the sea and airports coming and going to Qatar will be closed in 24 hours. http://www.khaleejtimes.com/region/saudi-arabia/saudi-arabia-cuts-ties-to-qatar-cites-terrorism- Which be...

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by RoySFlying
Sun Jun 04, 2017 7:01 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: BA ground staff LHR T5 last night
Replies: 43
Views: 4949

Re: BA ground staff LHR T5 last night

I find this surprising. Are you sure that the staff said " they both should pay the fine but talk to them and see"? I mean, there is no fine to pay, though a fee could be charged. Are you sure that she didn't say " they both should be fine but talk to them and see"? It just seems...

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by RoySFlying
Sun Jun 04, 2017 3:24 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Non-Av pictures 2017 Q2
Replies: 52
Views: 2889

Re: Non-Av pictures 2017 Q2

Thanks, WarRI1

Yes, these cockatoos are local and there are some closely related species that are similar in appearance. Occasionally I get some more colourful lorikeets and rosellas visiting.

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by RoySFlying
Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:30 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Non-Av pictures 2017 Q2
Replies: 52
Views: 2889

Re: Non-Av pictures 2017 Q2

Fortunately I didn't have to travel for these, they came to me. All were taken in my garden. http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g256/royflying/miscellany/DSCN0581_zpsxaulo8xn.jpg Collared sparrow-hawk, just after losing its prey to a cat. http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g256/royflying/miscellany/DS...

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by RoySFlying
Sat Jun 03, 2017 3:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - June 2017
Replies: 292
Views: 41166

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - June 2017

The Pilbara & Kimberleys need to get their costs down if they want a significant increase in tourism In terms of aviation, I'm not sure of how costs can be reduced. Naturally the airlines would like to see lower charges for airport use and that might be an avenue for cost reduction. However, wi...

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by RoySFlying
Sat Jun 03, 2017 1:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - June 2017
Replies: 292
Views: 41166

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - June 2017

Regarding flights from PER to the Pilbara and the KImberley, I thought we already had LCCs operating the routes on behalf of the majors. QF routes are typically operated by Network with their venerable F100 and Cobham and their equally ancient 717. Virgin Australia continues to service destinations ...

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by RoySFlying
Fri Jun 02, 2017 3:11 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Julian Assange Rape Investigation Is Dropped in Sweden
Replies: 147
Views: 9957

Re: Julian Assange Rape Investigation Is Dropped in Sweden

Yes, that obviously follows. :sarcastic: At least you are being consistent in your support for human rights violations. Best regards Thomas Thomas, did you fail to note the sarcasm smilie? The post clearly indicates that your conclusion is non sequitur. To argue that as he is not being held against...

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by RoySFlying
Fri Jun 02, 2017 2:01 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Virgin Australia safety video
Replies: 25
Views: 4246

Re: New Virgin Australia safety video

This is the version that was played on my flight from SYD to PER last December (2016). I did find parts of it amusing but I'm not all that keen on these sorts of videos. I can see that airlines are trying to be innovative and trying to get passengers to pay attention, but when you see some videos yo...

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by RoySFlying
Thu Jun 01, 2017 6:14 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - June 2017
Replies: 292
Views: 41166

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - June 2017

According to the ABC, flights operated by Silk Air from Singapore to Karratha from March 2018. Karratha mayor, Peter Long, has announced that agreement has been reached with the carrier to trial the flights over a twelve month period. However, before the flights can commence some building work needs...

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by RoySFlying
Thu Jun 01, 2017 5:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: MH128 returns to MEL after passenger suffering mental illness tries to get into cockpit with explosives
Replies: 25
Views: 8700

Re: Melbourne [MEL] closed due to suspected hijack attempt on MH128

I'm surprised that after landing the passengers were held on the plane for almost two hours before the police boarded. I thought with a potential bomb on board you'd want everyone off as quickly as possible. From the ABC: Victoria Police Chief Commissioner Graham Ashton said police were initially t...

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by RoySFlying
Thu Jun 01, 2017 4:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - June 2017
Replies: 292
Views: 41166

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - June 2017

From some 40,000 responses Vegemite has been included in the cut of nominations to be the name of one of QF's 787s. The complete list is published in Australian Aviation. Among famous people included are cricketer Don Bradman, Doctor Fred Hollows, opera singer Joan Sutherland and tennis champion Evo...

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by RoySFlying
Thu Jun 01, 2017 1:17 am
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: Kalgoorlie's HeARTwalk: VA Regional A320 to Perth
Replies: 7
Views: 2840

Re: Kalgoorlie's HeARTwalk: VA Regional A320 to Perth

Thanks for reading and leaving a comment, VapourTrails. I wonder how they keep the place clean.. ..the ochre sand or grit, does it get really windy there too? It can do but the mines are required to employ dust reduction procedures. These include dampening using water trucks and site tailing dumps a...

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by RoySFlying
Thu Jun 01, 2017 12:54 am
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: End of the Pipeline: Virgin Australia 737 to Kalgoorlie
Replies: 12
Views: 4472

Re: End of the Pipeline: Virgin Australia 737 to Kalgoorlie

Hi VapourTrails. That is an interesting artwork hanging from the ceiling. Yes, as part of the expansion and revamp of the terminals Perth Airport has been investing in some artworks. There's a very colourful raining glass feature in the International arrivals area. That is a light load, twenty-seven...

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by RoySFlying
Thu Jun 01, 2017 12:36 am
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: Of Whalers and Anzacs: Rex Saab 340 to Albany
Replies: 11
Views: 3543

Re: Of Whalers and Anzacs: Rex Saab 340 to Albany

Hi VapourTrails. Thanks for dropping by and leaving a comment. This looks like a really fascinating place to visit, love those shell designs and those whale skeletons! Albany is sure worth a visit. Full of history dating back to George Vancouver's voyage and beyond. It is in a scenic location, close...

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by RoySFlying
Wed May 31, 2017 11:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ryanair seat assignments all over the aircraft
Replies: 192
Views: 26839

Re: Ryanair back to deliberately pissing people off: seat assignments all over the aircraft

Europe is rather small and the Canaries are in Africa From Faro to Tromso is a mere 3968.85 km, so yes Europe is small. As to the Canaries, geographically they may lie of the coast of Africa but politically they are part of Spain and included in the EU. A bit like Hawaii in that respect, definitely...

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by RoySFlying
Wed May 31, 2017 10:37 am
Forum: Site Related
Topic: Did new A.net owners lower minimum age to join?
Replies: 38
Views: 7978

Re: Did new A.net owners lower minimum age to join?

I have been following this site since 2010. In the intervening years there has always been a variety in the "quality" of posts. Not everybody has the same level of experience and the same level of respect for others in the forum. Some can be ignorant, some can be strongly opinionated to th...

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by RoySFlying
Wed May 31, 2017 10:11 am
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: Fly around on Saturday with OS F100 / OS DH8D / LH 321 FRA-SZG-VIE-FRA in Y
Replies: 4
Views: 2073

Re: Fly around on Saturday with OS F100 / OS DH8D / LH 321 FRA-SZG-VIE-FRA in Y

Hi DAIAM2002 and congratulations on posting your first trip report. It was an enjoyable read and in some respects, I'm slightly envious that such multiple airline and aircraft itineraries are not possible in the part of Australia where I live. However, from time to time I am able to fly to Germany a...

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by RoySFlying
Wed May 31, 2017 3:34 am
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: End of the Pipeline: Virgin Australia 737 to Kalgoorlie
Replies: 12
Views: 4472

Re: End of the Pipeline: Virgin Australia 737 to Kalgoorlie

The flights look pleasant enough but catering on Virgin Australia really is pathetic in comparison to Qantas. Hi RyanairGuru. You're not wrong about Virgin's catering. Occasionally they provide something that tastes reasonably good but in terms of size and presentation Qantas definitely holds the a...

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by RoySFlying
Wed May 31, 2017 3:19 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Moderate religion underpining fundemantalism
Replies: 60
Views: 2089

Re: Moderate religion underpining fundemantalism

The thing that binds these three religions (and their spinoffs such as Mormanism) and makes them unique is that they all three claim that they have the only God, and there is no other God, therefore anybody who doesn't worship their God is unwashed and somewhat less than human. All three recognise ...

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by RoySFlying
Tue May 30, 2017 5:41 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Moderate religion underpining fundemantalism
Replies: 60
Views: 2089

Re: Moderate religion underpining fundemantalism

I wonder whether the question should be the other way round. Does fundamentalism underpin moderate religion? Whether you are well-read in religious matters or not, there are some fundamentals that followers of all religions accept. Those extremely narrow fundamentals may differ between religions but...

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by RoySFlying
Tue May 30, 2017 4:36 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Little Caesar's Sued ($100m) By Muslim Patron For Using Pork Pepperoni
Replies: 67
Views: 5354

Re: Little Caesar's Sued ($100m) By Muslim Patron For Using Pork Pepperoni

You are aware that black groups are organizing race rallies in France where 4/5 ths of the area is 'reserved for Black women'? Why is there no liberal anger over this fact? Because it does not suit their agenda, that's why. You are aware that "liberals" have actually condemned the group? ...

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by RoySFlying
Mon May 29, 2017 1:47 am
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: Remote Island Paradise - Lord Howe Island, Australia - Tasman Sea South Pacific | QF QantasLink Dash 8 -200 - Part 2
Replies: 19
Views: 4659

Re: Remote Island Paradise - Lord Howe Island, Australia - Tasman Sea South Pacific | QF QantasLink Dash 8 -200 - Part 2

Fantastic! What a wonderful well-written trip report. The depth of reporting on what to do and see and general travel advise is as impressive as it is informative. Thanks for the information about the flying boats that used to visit the Island. I like the bit about "don't ask and we won't tell&...

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by RoySFlying
Sun May 28, 2017 5:17 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Your 2017 Booked/ Flown Flights List
Replies: 243
Views: 20535

Re: Your 2017 Booked/ Flown Flights List

Flown: February QF1618 PER - GET F100 op by Network Aviation QF1621 GET - PER F100 May ZL2113 PER - ALH SF34 ZL2132 ALH - PER SF34 VA1851 PER - KGI 737 VA1858 KGI - PER A320 op by Virgin Australia Regional Coming up: June HK1912 PER - CVQ E120 Skippers Aviation HK1918 CVQ - PER DH8C July EK421 PER -...

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by RoySFlying
Sun May 28, 2017 1:48 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Airlines and Flying, then and now, from love to contempt
Replies: 7
Views: 1257

Re: Airlines and Flying, then and now, from love to contempt

I think that the differences between pre-deregulation and now are often exaggerated. The offerings of airlines have changed ever since the dawn of aviation and not just in one direction. The first passengers flown were obviously well-heeled but the conditions they flew in were pretty primitive. Cold...

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by RoySFlying
Sat May 27, 2017 11:08 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: Etihad to sell Air Berlin stake
Replies: 25
Views: 5085

Re: Rumor: Etihad to sell Air Berlin stake

Wasn't AB setting up a separate company that would keep the aircraft? Then when the airline went broke, theses assets would be retained while everything would go. They were talking of this new company operating on behalf of other airlines, something that AB already does. Several routes that are sold...

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by RoySFlying
Sat May 27, 2017 4:49 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Little Caesar's Sued ($100m) By Muslim Patron For Using Pork Pepperoni
Replies: 67
Views: 5354

Re: Little Caesar's Sued ($100m) By Muslim Patron For Using Pork Pepperoni

The customer may have mistakenly eaten something that is haram. That is not a sin in Islam. The sin (if one believes in the notion) is in willingly, out of desire and not necessity, eating the flesh of pigs. While the customer may have a legitimate grievance against the vendor, the amount claimed do...

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by RoySFlying
Sat May 27, 2017 2:22 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Significance of the number 22
Replies: 17
Views: 1063

Re: Significance of the number 22

scbriml wrote:

You might think that, I couldn't possibly comment.

Yes, that'll be all, Sir Humphrey. :)

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by RoySFlying
Fri May 26, 2017 12:16 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2017
Replies: 402
Views: 46108

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2017

Not much detail but the West is reporting an emergency landing at PER this morning. Skippers aviation aircraft was reported to be having engine problems shortly after take off. From the scant details, I'm guessing it was one of their Dash-8 300s. https://thewest.com.au/travel/air-aviation/emergency-...

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by RoySFlying
Thu May 25, 2017 11:53 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Significance of the number 22
Replies: 17
Views: 1063

Re: Significance of the number 22

Except of course, the 22/02/11 in Christchurch was an earthquake, not a terrorist bombing. While there have been a few instances of terrorism in New Zealand, as far as I am aware none occurred on the 22 of any month. Are you suggesting some sort of link between Breivik and al-Qaeda and Daesh? And th...

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by RoySFlying
Thu May 25, 2017 11:31 pm
Forum: Site Related
Topic: First Class Membership
Replies: 17
Views: 6593

Re: First Class Membership

There have been a couple of threads where this has been discussed. The aim appears to be to get the site running smoothly, eliminating various bugs and usability problems before introducing a paid membership. That seems to me to be a sensible approach as the last thing you want to do is charge peopl...

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by RoySFlying
Thu May 25, 2017 9:03 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: What airlines allow 12 year old to travel alone?
Replies: 23
Views: 3698

Re: What airlines allow 12 year old to travel alone?

It will be difficult for anyone to offer suggestions at the moment for lack of important information. From which country will the child be leaving? Is there more than one airport in the country of origin serving the US? If so, which is your preferred choice? To which city will she be travelling? Are...

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by RoySFlying
Thu May 25, 2017 3:24 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Explosives at an airport?
Replies: 0
Views: 263

Explosives at an airport?

In these days where passengers can be denied boarding and even charged with an offence for joking about explosives, is this sort of thing appropriate at an airport? Yes, here in Kalgoorlie, Western Australia, the airport owners consider it a good idea to let you know where to get your supplies from....

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by RoySFlying
Thu May 25, 2017 2:06 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Is Cultural Appropriation really a thing ?
Replies: 12
Views: 1031

Re: Is Cultural Appropriation really a thing ?

Complete and utter nonsense... just like everything else the SJW's think up. The idea wasn't invented by SJWs, though. Although the term itself may have been different, the origin is good old-fashioned is protectionism. Think along the lines of not being allowed to call a sparkling wine Champagne u...

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by RoySFlying
Thu May 25, 2017 1:56 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Next U.S. State to increase speed limit to 80 mph?
Replies: 47
Views: 3351

Re: Next U.S. State to increase speed limit to 80 mph?

The Northern Territory used to have unrestricted speeds, when they introduced the limit traffic fatalities increased, From reading that I have done it is true that the number of deaths on Territory roads increased in some years. Among those favouring a return to unrestricted zones a comparison for ...

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by RoySFlying
Wed May 24, 2017 8:23 am
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: Kalgoorlie's HeARTwalk: VA Regional A320 to Perth
Replies: 7
Views: 2840

Re: Kalgoorlie's HeARTwalk: VA Regional A320 to Perth

Did you get time to have a beer at one of the pubs? Not this time but on a previous visit I did join in the karaoke, lol. But yes, Kal does have some old-world charm to it with many attractive buildings from the 1890s onwards. VA are behind QF in terms of food offerings however! Yes, I was surprise...

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by RoySFlying
Wed May 24, 2017 8:10 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Next U.S. State to increase speed limit to 80 mph?
Replies: 47
Views: 3351

Re: Next U.S. State to increase speed limit to 80 mph?

but would there be an expectation to drive at or up to the speed limit in those states (territories) where other people where doing so? In Western Australia the is a general expectation that you drive to the road conditions and that you don't impede traffic. If you were driving exceptionally slow w...

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by RoySFlying
Wed May 24, 2017 5:27 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Next U.S. State to increase speed limit to 80 mph?
Replies: 47
Views: 3351

Re: Next U.S. State to increase speed limit to 80 mph?

RyanairGuru wrote:
100 km/h is standard in all Australian states, although some stretches of highway are 110 km/h


The maximum speed limit in Western Australia is 110 km/h outside of built-up areas, unless otherwise sign-posted. This applies regardless of whether the road is divided or not.

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