Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

Here's the comprehensive list about the resumption of the destinations temporarily canceled on Copa Airlines.
Possible changes might occur without further notice and pending the respective government approval.

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

Jet Blue and AA had JFK-SJO/SJO JFK scheduled evening flights for April and May. Then flights were canceled. I had purchased 4 trips for April/May. Now I have to go through UA Ewr-SJO. Too bad I like flying home Sunday night. I get the whole weekend with my family. They both resume service from JFK...

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

any idea why LH increased? This is solely my own interpretation: as of November 2020, Costa Rica eased their policies for the entrance of visitors from both LIR and SJO. Few countries worldwide like Costa Rica have their air-boundaries opened by now. As tourism represents the primary source of reve...

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

LH FRA-SJO goes from 3x to 5x weekly as shown:

LH 518...FRA 13.40......SJO 17.50..........343.....Tu, Th, Fr, Sa, Su
LH 519...SJO 19.35......FRA 15.00+1......343.....Tu, Th, Fr, Sa, Su
Effective: March 28th

Re: GUA Airport Closed due to Ash

Based on a google-earth exercise, the area marked within the ellipse belongs to the Pacaya volcano, which lies from 20 to 25 kilometers from GUA and following purely a straight line. The above caption featuring IB landing at GUA confirms this hypothesis. It's remarkable how the approach procedure fo...

Re: GUA Airport Closed due to Ash

Engine covers installed on all the RONs, that should make recovery easier. The attachment illustrates by itself how dangerous could be the ingestion of the ash when entering through the inlets of their engines. These particles are extremely abrasive and they could damage the inner systems of their ...

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

Watching some photos in other sources, it's sad how all the planes were coated for the volcanic ash. The jets belonging to the mainline carriers parked the last night at GUA looked with an unusual gray color. It's odd why they didn't cover the inlets of both engines of that private jet. https://imag...

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

The main regional airlines have temporarily suspended some routes. In most cases, it's uncertain when they would operate again. The routes in service are of course, all those qualifying as the most profitable segments for them. Some of them, are working with limited weekly frequencies as compared to...

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

The former TA flew SAL-LIR with ATR-42 for a while from 2010. It was scheduled as 4x weekly. They could catch some inbound traffic from North America through SAL. CM PTY-LIR began in 2012 twice a week, until the known temporary suspension in 2020. Even SAL-BZE and SAL-RTB are sadly no longer in serv...

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

Belize City and Liberia lost the connectivity to Central America and beyond by means of their regular jet airlines.
Their current services are primarily focused to the United States.

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

InterJet hasn't returned to Central America. They' re not operating even for the domestic market in Mexico.
Copa Airlines, AeroMexico and Volaris are attending this market.
AeroMexico Connect is not flying yet to Belize City, Managua and Liberia.

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

I don't stand convinced if the opening of B6 JFK-GUA would mean the spread of the airline in the rest of Central America nowadays. Even Mexico is only operated at SJD, CUN and MEX. In my view, SAP and SAL are holding the chance of future planes of the airline and coming from New York City area. AV/T...

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

juanchito wrote:

They will have to compete against Jetblue on the JFK Market

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

Do you know if AV will return to ORD? The press release didn't mention any word about the return of AV SAL-ORD. It rather states about the temporary suspension of selected routes served from San Salvador: AV SAL-MIA, AV SAL-MEX, AV SAL-YYZ, AV SAL-IAH and AV SAL-DFW. AV and TA flew to Miami from ma...

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

AV SJO-MIA will resume their legendary services from July 2021.
GRUPO TACA abandoned this route 10 years ago or so, in favour of TA SJO-SAL and then TA SAL-MIA and vice versa.
The former LACSA operated this segment for years.

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

Kilgen wrote:

If not mistaken all the seats are installed at COPESA.

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

Before the Covid-19 era: Ft. Lauderdale - Panama City: CM and NK, 1x daily flight in average, adding both services. New York JFK - Panama City: CM PTY-JFK 3x daily. JetBlue won't be alone at PTY, resulting in a complicated scenario for their profitable operations. Furthemore, B6 doesn't have a good ...

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

IberoJet from Spain will operate the Madrid - San Jose sector. twice a week from June.
Equipment: 330, 350.
The airline is owned by Grupo Barcelo and such flights would be focused for leisure travelers.

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

My hypothesis is there's no room for AV GUA-FRS for the time being. One more point: AV is currently operating under the Chapter 11 bankruptcy due to the known ongoing crisis. They have recently dropped some routes and destinations as well as the sudden withdrawal of their E90s. On the other hand, t...

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

During the jet era, the former TACA usually stopped at BZE on their way to Miami, New Orleans and Houston: BAC 1-11, Boeing 737 and so on. GRUPO TACA continued this legacy operating TA SAL-BZE-IAH 7x weekly with 319/320. Probably, it was only flown as AV SAL-BZE and back with E90, 319, 320, ATR-72, ...

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

Looks like TAG will have a nice monopoly to FRS until someone comes in or AV decides to give the GU legacy route a chance again. Volaris can't fly the route because they would have to set up a Guatemalan subsidiary and more importantly have a smaller airplane; FRS demand can't fill up an A319 daily...

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

Rumor is that AV has given notice to RTB and BZE that they are closing those stations permanently. It's a pity the possible demise of these destinations on AV network. Belize City had been active for years on TACA. I haven't seen Copa Airlines operating at BZE again. If I recall correctly, AV SAL-B...

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

Before COVID hit the US, Frontier was going to start ONT-SAL and GUA-SAL You meant F9 ONT-GUA. Frontier indeed planned some routes touching Central America before the Covid-19 crisis that never came true: ONT-SAL, ONT-GUA, MIA-GUA, MIA-SAL and BWI-SAL. On the other hand, AV SAL-LAX is 3x daily in a...

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

Managua, Nicaragua is featuring the slowest recovery in all our geographical area. Only some routes prior to the beginning of the Covid-19 crisis are operating there. We haven't found any evidence about the resumption of CM MGA-SJO, CM MGA-GUA, AM MEX-MGA, NK FLL-MGA, UA MGA-IAH and so forth. DL had...

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

The [SJO-LIM] route hasn't operated again.
AV SJO-LIM showed a very low demand of passengers, since the last five years and LP LIM-SJO 3x weekly is not working yet.

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

Based on some Honduran press releases, SAP is officially opened once again since the last days of 2020.

https://www.aviacionline.com/2020/12/honduras-reabrio-el-aeropuerto-de-san-pedro-sula/

However, the operations haven't reached their normal levels yet.

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

LightChop2Chop wrote:

Don't forget December 18: SY MSP RTB, 1Xweekly 738 NEW

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/5103/b0l0Yh.jpg This retro imagine introduces a recap of the 2020 regional aviation behavior. The airlines operating Central America are slowly resuming their normal operations. January 04: [WN BZE-DEN] END January 28: CC LCE-RTB 3x weekly L4T NEW May 10: [F9 ...

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2021

We have to take into account the worldwide sanitary period, prior to wish the spread of new routes touching Central America. The aviation industry was extremely hitted last year and probably the demand of passengers through our regional airports hasn't reached at least the 50% of its normal volume. ...

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2020

This month we are celebrating 14 years of the Cent Am aviation series: December 2006 - December 2020. https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=432713&p=5733797&hilit=Central+American+aviation+thread#p5733797 Here’s the attachment of the first edition. Just take a look to check...

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2020

LightChop2Chop wrote:

9N's Facebook feed and they just announced BZE SAL on their B1900

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2020

UA 2156.... LAX 08.55.....15.35 BZE.......Sa......738
UA 2157.....BZE 16.35.....20.00 LAX.......Sa......738
Effective: January 09th

AA 2346....LAX 08.00......14.57 BZE......Sa.......321
AA 2253....BZE 16.00......19.31 LAX......Sa.......321
Effective: January 09th

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2020

A friend told me that he saw UA has a nonstop LAX BZE. I didn’t believe him so I checked UA.com and sure enough it was there. Sat only, starts Jan 9. 738. If it is true, UA LAX-BZE would complement UA DEN-BZE 1x weekly, as new routes from Belize on UA. UA has an aggresive expansion linking Los Ange...

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2020

Ramón Villeda Morales international airport in San Pedro Sula was seriouly damaged due to the direct impact of hurricane and tropical storm Eta.
Their normal operations have been actually suspended for a while.

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2020

juanchito wrote:

Eastern Airlines will start weekly schedule flights to GUA starting November 28

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2020

I'd expect the resumption of CM PTY-GDL and CM PTY-MTY next year. Only their stellar Mexican stations are working on Copa Airlines at this time: Mexico City and Cancun. Speaking about Volaris Costa Rica, their flights are due to start again from November 23rd. Their expansion plans haven't been as l...

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2020

Both GUA and SAL have a good coverage to LAX by now and supplied by their competitors. So, it's hard to believe any resumption to Tijuana on Volaris as back-up for L.A. within the covid-19 crisis. Copa Airlines hasn't started many of their former destinations prior to March 2020. Perhaps it's not ti...

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2020

the return of TIJ-SJO and TIJ-GUA by Volaris. Based on the records of this series, I don't recall Volaris flying the SJO-TIJ sector, in the past. They briefly flew Q6 SJO-GDL instead till September 2018. Q6 GDL-GUA was also in service before. The route heading to Tijuana was scheduled as Q6 SAL-GUA...

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2020

Copa Airlines has a new safety video that showcases touristic areas of Panama: Thanks ! I've watched it. The safety video starts at 40:20' for those who want the skip the first part. It mentioned the 737 as the sole equipment on Copa Airlines at this time. Their E90s were active last year. However,...

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2020

SJOtoLIR wrote:

How's Avianca operating in Central America by now ?

Edited on October 29th, 2020

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2020

avi8 wrote:

GUA-FRS

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2020

How's Avianca operating in Central America by now ? Bogota - Guatemala City 3 weekly A319/320 Bogota - Panama City 3 weekly A319 Bogota - San Jose 4 weekly A319 Guatemala City - Los Angeles 4 weekly A320 San Salvador - Managua - Miami 4 weekly A320 San Salvador - Bogota 7 weekly A319/320 San Salvado...

Re: United Announces LAX-SJO/LIR/SAP, SFO-LIR, IAD-SDQ, DEN-BZE/SJO, CLE-CUN

UA 1741....LAX 08.15.....16.00 SJO UA 2065....SJO 16.55.....21.25 LAX Effective: December 19. 7x weekly, 738 The southbound path on UA LAX-SJO is not working as daylight schedule. Both DL LAX-SJO and B6 LAX-SJO will be deployed as red-eyes. Too much competition for the LAX-SJO sector from December: ...

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2020

United is acting agressively in Central America: they're not only Houston and New York/Newark. Analyzing the situation in El Salvador, UA IAD-SAL and UA LAX-SAL had been routes dominated in the past only by Grupo Taca / Avianca. Denver will be only operated as weekly services from the beginning for ...

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2020

United has disclosed comprehensive information about their future plans in Central America, in the short-term: December 17: UA IAD-SAL. 7x to 11x weekly. December 17: UA SAP-LAX. 3x weekly, 738 NEW December 17: UA SFO-LIR 1x weekly, 739 NEW December 19: UA DEN-BZE 1x weekly, 738 NEW December 19: UA ...

Re: United Announces LAX-SJO/LIR/SAP, SFO-LIR, IAD-SDQ, DEN-BZE/LIR, CLE-CUN

AASAP777 wrote:

AA had service from both SAL and SJO to LAX, but with separate flights. AA798 was SAL-LAX and AA928 SJO-LAX.

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2020

Iberia in Central America as of October 18th:

IB MAD-GUA-SAL-MAD: 3x weekly, 330
IB MAD-PTY: 2x weekly, 330
IB MAD-SJO: 3x weekly, 330

Re: United Announces LAX-SJO/LIR/SAP, SFO-LIR, IAD-SDQ, DEN-BZE/LIR, CLE-CUN

SJOtoLIR wrote:

AA LAX-SAL-GUA with 752

Re: United Announces LAX-SJO/LIR/SAP, SFO-LIR, IAD-SDQ, DEN-BZE/LIR, CLE-CUN

SJOtoLIR wrote:

The regular non-stops services linking Los Angeles and Costa Rica just began in 2014: DL LAX-SJO with 752.

Re: Central American Aviation Thread - 2020

UA has announced an entire bevy of new routes to Central America including DEN SJO/BZE, LAX SAP. Interesting developments ! I have my doubts about UA LAX-SAP 3x weekly. Los Angeles metropolitan area is not a large VFR market for Honduras as Texas is. As far as I know, even UA EWR-SAP has never oper...