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by VTORD
Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 880
Views: 55767

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

unrave wrote:
AI no longer flies SYD-MEL
I think it is DEL-SYD on 4 days and DEL-MEL on 3 days now

Thanks for the clarification. Wasn't aware of that!

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by VTORD
Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 880
Views: 55767

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

EY any airline it touches went bankrupt some bright examples are Air Berlin,Alitalia,Jet Airways etc Alitalia is flying ofcorse cause like AI its Italian gov's darling but we all know its not in a good condition. Actually EY touched only bankrupt (or at the very least financially troubled) airlines...

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by VTORD
Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 880
Views: 55767

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

To be honest I don’t know how SpiceJet is helped by more seats to DXB. They will get a good chunk of Jet’s ME routes / seats (to DXB and other markets). I feel like Spice is helped by higher fares more than being EK’s lackey on just sending people to DXB for $800 fares to the US. That will come dow...

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by VTORD
Fri Jun 14, 2019 5:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 880
Views: 55767

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

Re: the sports quota, I am okay with AI sponsoring 203 sportsmen (depending upon who they are and at what level they compete and so on). I mean I don't want any of the National / IPL professional cricketers to be on that pay roll. India doesn't really provide adequate opportunities and encouragement...

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by VTORD
Fri Jun 14, 2019 4:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 2002
Views: 261730

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

I am trying to analyze why the minister would say Jet will be saved and this process never dies. Read the Economic Times article again. The headline is misleading when you read the text. Here is the relevant quote section: India's new civil aviation minister said on Friday he is confident that airl...

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by VTORD
Thu Jun 13, 2019 4:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 880
Views: 55767

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

I hope UK flies to Houston or Southern US for theres a lot of Indian diaspora there and its not served by neither AI nor the American 3 Houston may not be the best place to start US routes for UK. The diaspora in Houston is not as big as say DFW or LAX. Plus IAH is a UA hub so LH gets good feed the...

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by VTORD
Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 880
Views: 55767

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

That was last night's diversion of their UK866 BLR-BOM flight to BDQ due to bad weather at BOM. That wouldn't show on their published schedule of course and would be just a flight status mostly. Thanks! I forgot about that thunderstorm... Colombo should be given a pass until tourism picks up. I did...

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by VTORD
Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 880
Views: 55767

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

Was poking around the UK website ans saw something odd on their flight schedules page (too lazy to post a screen shot):
Flight# UK0866
Origin: (undefined) BDQ 00:10
Dest: BOM 01:00
Freq: TUE effective 11-Jun - 11-Jun
Would this be a ex-9W 737 stored at BDQ?

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by VTORD
Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 880
Views: 55767

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

I think AI and UK should charge for snacks and bags domestically. They should follow the EU and US model of lite, normal, business fares with BOB. What makes an airline FSC IMHO are offering connections, reliability, advanced apps and web functionality, baggage interline, etc. On long haul I think ...

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by VTORD
Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 2002
Views: 261730

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

The definition of success changed after 9W. 9W going down without losing one vote is a great success. There are no elections for the next five years, killing AI quickly is a timely thing to do. The silver lining, 6E can breathe easy. We can debate the GoI's "25 years later" investigations...

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by VTORD
Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 1252
Views: 195734

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2019

United returns mainline in Dec to IND-ORD, one daily 737-800. However, IND-EWR goes almost all ERJs that month, with only one daily flight on any larger plane (E170) SFO also is reduced to 1x daily YOY. DEN sees 2x A320, 1x E70 that month I thought SFO was 2 x daily only in the summer. Last year an...

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by VTORD
Sat Jun 08, 2019 3:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 2002
Views: 261730

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

I think AI can try out flights from Delhi to DPS and BNE with their 788s . Both have come up as underserved routes in the past and might work in AI's configuration. Wouldn't BOM - SYD come before DEL - BNE? I think it's unlikely that anyone will start BOM MAN now. If AI starts MAN , they'll add it ...

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by VTORD
Sat Jun 08, 2019 3:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 2002
Views: 261730

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

You are being hard on NG. This is a business failure and you are attaching company issues to him personally which I don't think is correct. NG make poor business decisions Read both of your statements back to back and think about what you are saying. If NG who was well known for being the "who...

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by VTORD
Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:01 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 880
Views: 55767

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

Does the article merely mention that pax can seamlessly connect on to EK flights now which they couldn't before? The way I read it, the code-share with SG would effectively enable EX to claim more destinations on it's network, not necessarily EK served. Or does it say that expanding bilaterals will...

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by VTORD
Sun Jun 02, 2019 12:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 880
Views: 55767

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

Looks like KLM is finally going daily to BOM with changed timings by November. Using the link below, which seems to say they are adding a daily flight over and above the 3 weekly. This seems wrong. It just seems like a daily flight starting October taking over the Jet timings. https://simpleflying....

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by VTORD
Wed May 29, 2019 2:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - May 2019
Replies: 347
Views: 35594

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - May 2019

Doesn’t air India have 3 77Ls? If they don’t have enough why lease some from Etihad or buy them from Etihad All 3 are doing 9 x Weekly SFO Duty. Sometimes I think AI sends them to IAD as well leaving AI183/184 to the 77W but long story short they are all occupied. 5 of EY's parked 77Ls are actually...

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by VTORD
Wed May 29, 2019 2:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - May 2019
Replies: 347
Views: 35594

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - May 2019

avier wrote:
to borrow Rs 2,400 crore from National Small Savings Fund (NSSF), a pool of small savings from households

At this point it is not even funny enough to say "irony died a painful death....." What a waste!! :banghead:

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by VTORD
Tue May 28, 2019 6:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 2002
Views: 261730

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

^^Here is a link from Business Standard with the actual news. The first post link quoted is an opinion piece. https://www.business-standard.com/article/companies/jet-airways-founder-naresh-goyal-wife-stopped-from-flying-abroad-119052600007_1.html They were deboarded and informed they could not leave...

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by VTORD
Mon May 27, 2019 8:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - May 2019
Replies: 347
Views: 35594

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - May 2019

why hasn’t Vistara stepped in and started long haul? They could have just stepped right into Jet’s EU flights. I am sure DL, KL, AF, VS would have loved that. Even the LHR slots could have been handled through VS. Vistara would have had the revenue from DL/AF/KL/VS’s already sold tickets to india. ...

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by VTORD
Mon May 27, 2019 8:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 1252
Views: 195734

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2019

If you are buying one-way(which I know fewer people do), IND-JFK-BOM is significantly cheaper than IND-CDG-BOM. I have noticed a few days where IND-JFK-BOM is also cheaper, but generally they are the same price. If that begins to change it would have some negative impacts on the CDG flight Fair poi...

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by VTORD
Sun May 26, 2019 11:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 1252
Views: 195734

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2019

However there is some degree of exposure with so many of the passengers on IND-CDG connecting to India, and DL opening a JFK-BOM flight later this year. If they can keep Cummins, Infosys, e.t.c flying through CDG it should be fine. So the JFK - BOM flight on Delta might actually hurt the IND - CDG ...

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by VTORD
Wed May 22, 2019 8:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 2002
Views: 261730

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

No offence to be taken sir/madam. None taken and yes I am a guy! :D What you need to understand is the time gap either on the way in or way out at BOM / DEL makes it an extremely unattractive option for non-BOM or non-drivable from BOM places. That does not constitute a denial of BOM's potential. T...

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by VTORD
Wed May 22, 2019 7:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - May 2019
Replies: 347
Views: 35594

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - May 2019

http://www.airindia.in/newsdetail.htm?693
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Not sure if this was posted here:
AI is making a stop in ARN for DEL-ORD on the west bound leg.
http://www.airindia.in/newsdetail.htm?693

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by VTORD
Tue May 21, 2019 2:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 2002
Views: 261730

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

Where are the small townies who spoke of too little demand for long hauls from BOM. Back to back 9W's capacity is being restored at BOM, long haul too. Speaks of how lucrative the market remains out of the financial capital. They'll never learn ..... . Since you ask, I do have a life outside of ANe...

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by VTORD
Mon May 20, 2019 5:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - May 2019
Replies: 347
Views: 35594

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - May 2019

Is 400+ enough to fill a B77W and 100's of 1 stop connections? AI's decision is in everyway sensible. More pitiful thing is there's a demand of only 400 daily pax for BOM-NYC. True that. 400 seems to be extremely low for BOM-NYC. that being the case, definitely good decision. I'm not saying that th...

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by VTORD
Mon May 20, 2019 6:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA retimes LHR-BOM Flight
Replies: 33
Views: 7654

Re: BA retimes LHR-BOM Flight

tighter inventory = bigger profits :) 10 years ago when I flew LHR-BOM regularly, BA was flying twice daily 744s. Plus Jet twice daily and Virgin as well. Now BA is up to 18 per week but on smaller planes, so must be significantly fewer seats on the route than back then. All goung via DXB/AUH I gue...

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by VTORD
Thu May 16, 2019 9:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 2002
Views: 261730

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

Beggars can't be choosers. They must take what they have. And if they resist BOM/DEL, they'll have zero options left to connect on a single ticket to rest of the world. Try flying Vadodara to the rest of the world and see what convenient options you really have. Have been doing exactly that for the...

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by VTORD
Tue May 14, 2019 4:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 2002
Views: 261730

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

It's not what everyone wants, only desi small town residents here on a.net. Since for them, they ANYWAYS have to take a one-stop or more to connect globally be it through Dubai, Doha, Singapore, Mumbai or Delhi. But for mega city pax it definitely does matter, especially for those who value time an...

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by VTORD
Sun May 12, 2019 4:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: At DL flying is a family affair
Replies: 58
Views: 8023

Re: At DL flying is a family affair

I don't know if this has been posted anywhere on here but I found it interesting to see this video of a female Delta captain and her daughter flying a 757 together and the youngest sister is also a DL pilot. I have seen this before at other airlines occasionally it's more usually father and son and...

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by VTORD
Fri May 10, 2019 4:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - May 2019
Replies: 347
Views: 35594

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - May 2019

Would LH allow AI to code share with DL?. How does that matter? I haven't checked the up-to-date status of AI-LH code shares but AFAIK, it's minimal and they have the interline that comes with being in Star Alliance. LH has absolutely no authority over AI whatsoever, Any chance AI is trying to add ...

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by VTORD
Fri May 03, 2019 8:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UPDATED: Delta announces JFK-BOM
Replies: 1074
Views: 168589

Re: Delta to serve Mumbai nonstop in 2019

Key reasons IMO: 1. People do not need a visa if they are flying from the US if the h1b/l1 visa has expired on their passport. European carriers require a transit visa which implies a trip to the embassy. I was under the same impression but as pointed out by DTWLAX a few posts above, now only LHR n...

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by VTORD
Wed May 01, 2019 5:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - May 2019
Replies: 347
Views: 35594

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - May 2019

I wanted to ask about e-mail messages that I just got from British Airways. This is for India flights fairly far into the future. I was surprised to see two notifications of equipment changes . BA119 from London to Bangalore in mid-December is now on a 4-class Boeing 787-9. It was booked on a three...

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by VTORD
Wed May 01, 2019 5:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UPDATED: Delta announces JFK-BOM
Replies: 1074
Views: 168589

Re: UPDATED: Delta announces JFK-BOM

If Delta could start next month itself, it would be a roaring success, With Jet's demise fares and yields have gone thru the roof. Y fares today is almost as high as the cheapest J fares before the crisis(yes granted the really terrible airlines with badish connections). Many people I know have can...

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by VTORD
Wed May 01, 2019 1:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UPDATED: Delta announces JFK-BOM
Replies: 1074
Views: 168589

Re: Delta to serve Mumbai nonstop in 2019

So all the people who proclaimed that the financial issues with 9W were keeping Delta from starting BOM really had no clue because 9W ceases operations and Delta starts BOM. Great news that Delta chose JFK because New York is a established world gateway unlike Atlanta which is nothing more than an ...

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by VTORD
Wed May 01, 2019 1:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - May 2019
Replies: 347
Views: 35594

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - May 2019

While this is good news, what are the connecting options in Mumbai with a middle of the night arrival time? I don't know who the domestic partner will be. Personally I was one of those skeptics who thought this route won't materialize w/o 9W but happy to be proven wrong. From a timings stand point ...

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by VTORD
Wed May 01, 2019 1:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - May 2019
Replies: 347
Views: 35594

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - May 2019

SQ is not even close to LH (I think they are frenemies at best). Vistara could even use SQ planes (or pilots) to get the routes started. For what ever reason it is like Vistara/tatas want to ensure Jet is 100% dead. We all have accepted / moved on, but they are still hesitant. Who knows what they a...

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by VTORD
Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - May 2019
Replies: 347
Views: 35594

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - May 2019

https://news.delta.com/nonstop-mumbai-n ... gin-dec-22

JFK 21:15 - BOM 22:50 +1
BOM 00.50 - JFK 06:35

Equipment: 77L.
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Here is the link to Delta's news hub:

https://news.delta.com/nonstop-mumbai-n ... gin-dec-22

JFK 21:15 - BOM 22:50 +1
BOM 00.50 - JFK 06:35

Equipment: 77L.

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by VTORD
Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 2002
Views: 261730

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

AVIER. Uhh, do even have a tad bit of understanding of the aviation sector? I ask because you are 100% wrong in the above post. You gave a BIG LECTURE on how much YOU supposedly know. By the way, Vistara took on 6 of Jet's planes and they are 737 NG planes not even the A320 that was previously in V...

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by VTORD
Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - April 2019
Replies: 455
Views: 40567

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - April 2019

I think one city out of BOM, BLR, HYD, MAA will get a SFO nonstop IF UA's SFO-DEL does well. To be honest, I think UA flying nonstop to DEL probably solves a lot of UA's India issues from SFO. With Jet closing, UA will need a new connecting partner. 6 months ago, I would have said UA should start S...

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by VTORD
Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 2002
Views: 261730

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

http://www.indialegallive.com/spotlight ... gged-64714
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This is a good analysis of the Jet crisis and larger issues thereof by Jitendra Bhargav:
http://www.indialegallive.com/spotlight ... gged-64714

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by VTORD
Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - April 2019
Replies: 455
Views: 40567

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - April 2019

The JAL flight is not just for SFO/IT pax but to develop the BLR-APAC market aswell. The BLR-NRT market is growing well & the demand is quiet high. Not everything is connected to IT. There's a lot more to do than just IT, cargo being one of them. After 3 years of intense negotiations JAL is Lan...

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by VTORD
Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:16 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - April 2019
Replies: 455
Views: 40567

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - April 2019

The MAA and BLR flights do not conveniently connect to the SFO flight unless you prefer sitting in NRT (Japan) airport for 12 hours. You think techies like to kill 12 hours that way? Are you out of your mind? Note that the BLR flight to NRT on Japan Air Lines (JAL) doesn't have any connecting fligh...

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by VTORD
Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - April 2019
Replies: 455
Views: 40567

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - April 2019

JAL have had the 787 since 2012. I think the demand has increased a lot, fueled several Japanese big companies' offices as well as the fact that all big Investment Banks now have their back offices at BLR so finance traffic between BLR and TKO has also increased. Goes without saying about demand. O...

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by VTORD
Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 2002
Views: 261730

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

I say, this is absolutely preposterous. You have an established, settled home in Mumbai with a spouse and kids; you are in dire straits now that 9W is grounded; a job calls you to, say, HCMC to work for VietJetAir with a significantly higher salary. Tell me, when shifting from Mumbai to Delhi is it...

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by VTORD
Mon Apr 22, 2019 2:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 2002
Views: 261730

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

Why AI need to look at A330 ? The question is why AI need to be looking at leasing ANY wide-bodies at all. They can't fully utilize the ones they have but want to lease from outside. Maybe they want to cannibalize these and get their own planes in the air. They are AI so nothing will surprise me TBH.

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by VTORD
Mon Apr 22, 2019 2:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 2002
Views: 261730

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

VTORD - You need to update yourself. This was the case before, not anymore. And I can say that for sure because I was in the same situation as you with the expired H-1B visa but transited through those airports without any issue. No transit visa required at all for AMS and CDG. CDG got rid of the r...

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by VTORD
Sun Apr 21, 2019 12:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 2002
Views: 261730

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

With regards to Indians needing transit visas for AMS, ZRH, FRA and CDG, I have checked again through the IATA Timatic software and the rules stated for check in pax holding Indian passports are as follows: AMS + ZRH + FRA + MUC + CDG - no transit visa required if travelling onwards to EU UK and No...

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by VTORD
Sun Apr 21, 2019 12:21 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 2002
Views: 261730

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

3. Because of the silly transit visa requirement, LHR is not a friendly airport to transit for Indian passport holders as opposed AMS, CDG, FRA, ZUR etc. With regards to point 3, Indians do not need a transit visa for UK if they have a valid US/Canada or EU visa existing in their passports. Correct...

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by VTORD
Sat Apr 20, 2019 11:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 2002
Views: 261730

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

It wasn't an LHR slot, IIRC. Jet was rumoured to be eyeing the last remaining, 7 weekly flying rights on the Indian side (as part of the India-UK bilateral) that AI had the first right of refusal to. Apparently, 9W wanted to start a second DEL-LHR on a B773, probably on slots borrowed from one of t...

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by VTORD
Sat Apr 20, 2019 3:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 2002
Views: 261730

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

Thanks! I moved to SF from DC back in 2014 and did not recall seeing Jet Airways ever at SFO. The BOM-PVG-SFO route seems (on paper) like it would be a sure winner. What happened to it that is was so short lived? The global meltdown + crude hit 140. My room mate at college had used that flight I re...

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