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by MEA-707
Fri Jan 15, 2021 8:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: De Havilland to "Pause" Q400 production, future uncertain
Replies: 122
Views: 19852

Re: De Havilland to "Pause" Q400 production, future uncertain

I am surprised they didn't stop sooner. The only big order, SpiceJet, is very problematic to get paid for. There are also about 100 Q400s available on the market, the whole fleets of FlyBe, Austrian, Eurowings, Air Baltic are or will soon be parked by their operators. That can't help much.

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by MEA-707
Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 747 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021
Replies: 157
Views: 48586

Re: Boeing 747 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

So what then is the total number of 748's built/to be built? If L/N 1420(?) is the first, then its 155 total? It also looks like to finish the final four (at current rate) production will end in 2023 instead of 2022? Indeed 155 748s to be built. Useless fact: one less than the 717 I think they can ...

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by MEA-707
Sun Jan 10, 2021 11:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A320ceo Family Production/Delivery Thread - 2021
Replies: 81
Views: 19214

Re: Airbus A320ceo Family Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

I'm expecting Delta wants to change it's order, because they don't need the A321CEO's now. But Airbus might be stuborn because of current low production and specific CEO parts already produced. We shall see what happens. I expect 2021 to be the last year A32xCEO's are produced by Airbus. Delta orde...

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by MEA-707
Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Sriwijaya Air 737-500 (SJ182 CGK-PNK) crashes shortly after takeoff
Replies: 866
Views: 255427

Re: Sriwijaya Air 737-500 (SJ182 CGK-PNK) crashes shortly after takeoff

My guts feeling think of these possibilities: 1- Pilot suicide or intruder in cockpit. Many major accidents in the last years like MH370, Germanwings 9545, LAM, earlier Egyptair 990, RAM, Silkair turned out to be something like that. 2- (Part of) stabilizer or wing broke off 3- Spatial disorientatio...

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by MEA-707
Mon Jan 04, 2021 12:56 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 747 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021
Replies: 157
Views: 48586

Re: Boeing 747 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

The ship has left the dock already. Per previous threads IIRC Triumph (or maybe someone else) is no longer making major assemblies for the 747 and Boeing doesn't seem interested in finding any new suppliers. Indeed Triumph etc already stopped building 747 parts. But somewhere someone here should kn...

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by MEA-707
Sat Jan 02, 2021 12:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 4 MEA aircraft damaged by gunfire at BEY
Replies: 31
Views: 8644

Re: 4 MEA aircraft damaged by gunfire at BEY

I sometimes wonder why insurance companies let brand new A-321neo's and 330s fly and especially be parked in places like TIP and BEY. Insurance was the main reason MEA could only fly old 707s til the civil war was over in 1991. Maybe the low interest rates make them more disposable.

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by MEA-707
Wed Dec 30, 2020 10:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2020
Replies: 192
Views: 52188

Re: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

I might be wrong a few frames but I believe 398 official deliveries so far.

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by MEA-707
Sun Dec 20, 2020 10:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Dr. Peters to scrap additional A380s
Replies: 147
Views: 26392

Re: Dr. Peters to scrap additional A380s

The A380 saga is very sad. I am struggling to think of an airliner with such a short lifespan; a sad mix of misjudgement, ego and circumstance. I think even the Lockheed Tri-Star had a a longer career with airlines. Can anyone else think of an airliner with a shorter life? The DC-7. But you were pr...

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by MEA-707
Wed Dec 16, 2020 5:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 787 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020
Replies: 298
Views: 76853

Re: Boeing 787 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Firing order update from this link: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FH3Y2-vRUgojntPkCSJI5Pd-15rsJ1a0SFCRaT-iqgo/edit#gid=2 The one of interesting is LN1159 which is the first for Iraqi Airways. Also interesting is it's confirmed in it that LN1129 will be the last 787 built in Everett, alrea...

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by MEA-707
Wed Dec 09, 2020 11:14 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020
Replies: 337
Views: 89622

Re: Boeing 777 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Corrected version Boeing have today released their November updates. One 777-300ER was delivered in the month , for British from the Novus order. There have been no cancellations or conversions. Unfilled orders for the 777-300ER now stand at 16, according to Boeing figures ; Aeroflot - 3 BOC ( for ...

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by MEA-707
Fri Nov 27, 2020 3:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Japanese official suggests ANA-JAL merger
Replies: 39
Views: 10833

Re: Japanese official suggests ANA-JAL merger

A merger is probably unlikely in the near term as this would lead to a domestic monopoly. Members of this board seriously need to take a break and study what a "monopoly" ACTUALLY is....... it's got to be the single most misunderstood and misused concept here. If they merge they would hol...

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by MEA-707
Fri Nov 27, 2020 10:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: MSN jump in Boeing 737s
Replies: 18
Views: 5523

Re: MSN jump in Boeing 737s

No the MSNs have less and less in common with the sequence of built. They allocate them at time of orders, some orders get long delays and that's how you could see MSN 31280, a 737-800 for American, being ordered around year 2000 but only built in december 2017, is built next after MSN 64068 a 737-8...

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by MEA-707
Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:25 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Embraer KC-390 News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 238
Views: 66458

Re: Embraer KC-390 News and Discussion Thread

Congrats to EMB on the Hungary sale. That happened very quickly since things sort of split from Boeing (I think Boeing is still involved on the military side). Plausibly, on partnerships, I could see Airbus as a good fit in addition to India, as the A400M production is ending. They have lost piles ...

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by MEA-707
Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020
Replies: 1835
Views: 369553

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Sorry if already posted but any news if and when the 5th and further aircraft will fly? Are some already fitted out with engines? Would be a waste if they just wait on the ground.

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by MEA-707
Tue Nov 24, 2020 3:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Embraer RJ 190 safest commercial jet in the world? ERJ-190 vs 737-800 safety?
Replies: 34
Views: 5414

Re: Embraer RJ 190 safest commercial jet in the world? ERJ-190 vs 737-800 safety?

thankfully it will become more and more normal that whole aircraft types will exist without fatalities. No one has ever been killed on an: A-319 (around 1480 built) Emb145/135 (around 1240 built) Boeing 787 (around 1030 built) Emb170/175 (around 860 built) CRJ700/900/1000 family (around 820 built) E...

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by MEA-707
Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: DL looking to trade 717s for 737 Max
Replies: 731
Views: 138308

Re: Delta hints at the possibility of purchasing Boeing’s 737 MAX: FT

I see quiet often Delta is likely to take sum white tails but is there really white tails around ? I mean Boeing has still more then 3.000 backlog. If a customer cancels an order , does Boeing try to market that aircraft to a new customer or improve the slot of an already existing order ? Boeing bu...

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by MEA-707
Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Question: 747-8 to Freighter easy conversion possible?
Replies: 101
Views: 12208

Re: Question: 747-8 to Freighter easy conversion possible?

The 747-8I was designed from the start to include a P-F conversion. - Removal of the stretched upperdeck structure and installation of the "short hump" (a reversed SUD modification). Has any 747 ever got it's SUD removed and replaced with a short upperdeck? It sounds very expensive. The o...

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by MEA-707
Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates Network & Fleet discussion 2020
Replies: 1753
Views: 51880

Re: Emirates confirms future A380 deliveries

Good to read. These aircraft were almost finished already so it would be a huge penalty if they rejected them.
Plus it would be sad and depressing if these eight were not taken by anyone and go straight to the scrapman.

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by MEA-707
Mon Nov 16, 2020 2:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Korean Air makes bid for Asiana
Replies: 239
Views: 51410

Re: Korean Air to buy indebted Asiana

Heavy divestitures will be needed. The only fleet models in common with both are the A330, 747 freighter, and 77E. Also, slots abroad will have to be relinquished all over as well as at ICN. Also, are Air Seoul and Air Busan being sold separately? They both have A380s, and Korean Air will also get ...

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by MEA-707
Tue Nov 03, 2020 3:45 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Planespotters.net struggling to keep up with DL fleet retirements?
Replies: 9
Views: 2364

Re: Planespotters.net struggling to keep up with DL fleet retirements?

This year a website like that is difficult to maintain; what to do with temporary parkings? Also in view of the limited time you have as volunteer. I run a smaller website like that and decided to mainly put things as Stored / left fleet if the type is officially withdrawn, say the British Airways 7...

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by MEA-707
Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: First A220-300, produced in Mobile, is delivered.
Replies: 13
Views: 5124

Re: First A220-300, produced in Mobile, is delivered.

Is there any news on N301DU, the damaged first US assembled A220 ? It still hasn't even flown, looks like the damage is worse than they said ?

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by MEA-707
Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:18 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Could the 707-700 have been a suitable freighter?
Replies: 19
Views: 2399

Re: Could the 707-700 be a suitable freighter?

OK a program like that might have worked around 1979, when many 707s were only 10-15 years old. I could have seen airlines like TWA and El Al also keeping reengined pax versions til around 1990-95. But the three reasons it didn't happen was that Boeing had a slow selling 757 on offer and didn't want...

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by MEA-707
Wed Oct 07, 2020 5:02 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: MAX Relaunch Orders
Replies: 47
Views: 6023

Re: MAX Relaunch Orders

A dark horse which isn't mentioned yet: Air France. They have A220s on order to replace the A318/19s but they haven't ordered the A320NEO yet and still need something for their biggest and longer narrowbody routes. Unlikely to happen ! but I do see KLM ánd Transavia - Netherlands and - France go MAX...

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by MEA-707
Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A220-100 ACJ long range business jet announced by Airbus
Replies: 55
Views: 12150

Re: A220-100 ACJ long range business jet announced by Airbus

I hope they can use one of the test aircraft or the Swiss ntu, #50019, for this program.

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by MEA-707
Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020
Replies: 1835
Views: 369553

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

A different question; given that LN 1669 (a 777-F) is already flying, does that mean that every 77X until LN 1668, the 18th 77X (!!), has already rolled out as well, probably without engines and in primer? Or are they not built in exact LN order for now because of the delay in first delivery?

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by MEA-707
Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Iberia 737-200s in 1989?
Replies: 8
Views: 1677

Re: Iberia 737-200s in 1989?

Indeed no 737-200s at all operating in Spain in 1989. But Iberia leased 737-300 EC-EAK from Air Europa in 1988-1990 so indeed there was cooperation between them at that time.

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by MEA-707
Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020
Replies: 1835
Views: 369553

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Has anyone got a list of 777X test aircraft regos and production numbers to keep track of? Much appreciated :) I’ve got one in my signature. Got a few different spreadsheets in that link, but the 2nd one has a 777X production list including the test aircraft. Super cool spreadsheets, but I noticed ...

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by MEA-707
Sun Sep 13, 2020 10:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020
Replies: 472
Views: 111959

Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020

The most recent photo I saw, one was parked engineless and the other missing 2 of her engines. There’s factory B744F’s sitting in the desert with a rumoured price tag of around $12.5million a piece, the sums just don’t add up, especially as a factory freighter will always be more capable than a con...

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by MEA-707
Sat Aug 29, 2020 9:25 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Largest capacity passenger plane in 1967
Replies: 44
Views: 9955

Re: Largest capacity passenger plane in 1967

DC-8-61s were used a lot across the Atlantic with carriers such as TIA, Capitol, Air Canada and Nordair. With their relatively short legs, tech-stops at Shannon or Gander were quite common but were accepted as normal, especially for charter operations. In January 1980, I flew on an Air Canada DC-8-...

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by MEA-707
Wed Aug 26, 2020 11:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A320neo Production/Delivery Thread - 2020
Replies: 403
Views: 60436

Re: Airbus A320neo Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Does anyone know why there is such a diversification of current-build MSN #s within the A319/320/321 family? Some frames being built are still in the 9400 range, while others are already in the 10200 range, with massive gaps in between. I'm sure there's a logical explanation, however I haven't foun...

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by MEA-707
Wed Aug 26, 2020 3:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SLM new 777 and ETOPS
Replies: 98
Views: 24139

Re: SLM new 777 and ETOPS

Hope are they able to compete with companies like KLM and TUI that are able to fly a direct route? They have managed to compete with KLM for decades, and they actually partnered up with TUI for the last few years. Dutch citizens often fly KLM to PBM and Surinam citizens often fly SLM, as a way of p...

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by MEA-707
Tue Aug 25, 2020 12:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Boeing to Consolidate 787 Production in South Carolina
Replies: 320
Views: 56397

Re: Boeing Considers Closing 787 Production in WA

The primary issue with Charleston 787 production is quality of the completed product, not safety. QR refused to accept 787s produced in Charleston because of poor standard of finishing that they didn't see with Everett produced frames. If Qwattar has never had a 787 from the chs, then how can they ...

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by MEA-707
Sun Aug 23, 2020 4:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Boeing to Consolidate 787 Production in South Carolina
Replies: 320
Views: 56397

Re: Boeing Considers Closing 787 Production in WA

The article mentioned significant writeoffs if the WA plant closed, would/could Boeing Bury some of the production costs in the program accounting in this. Seems like a good time to slide away a financial problem when there is a media shitstorm going on. Fred I always worried that the big program a...

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by MEA-707
Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumour: De Havilland stopping work?
Replies: 19
Views: 5960

Re: Rumour: De Havilland stopping work?

I like the Q400 a lot but I really see the end nearing, actually I am surprised they didn't announce it yet. Small orderbook. The only big order, SpiceJet, seems very problematic, completed aircraft haven't been delivered for a year so even before Covid they didn't seem to be able to finance them. T...

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by MEA-707
Wed Aug 05, 2020 1:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2020
Replies: 78
Views: 15477

Re: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2020

I think Embraer should use this time to finally try to shave off some weight off the E175-E2. Use lighter materials. Maybe cut out 70 centimeter of fuselage and 1 row of seats if necessairy. They will have the scope market (Express carriers) in their pocket with the CRJ closing down and the MRJ not ...

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by MEA-707
Sun Aug 02, 2020 9:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why did Boeing say that the 727 replacement was the 757?
Replies: 96
Views: 15583

Re: Why did Boeing say that the 727 replacement was the 757?

I think it could better be rephrased that Boeing replaced the 727 by the 757 in their portfolio and their production line (the 727 was not offered after 1982). So any airline who called Boeing for an aircraft for 140-210 passengers would get a 757 instead of a 727, no matter if it's needed to replac...

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by MEA-707
Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA axes LCY-JFK A318 premium service
Replies: 84
Views: 17693

Re: BA axes LCY-JFK A318 premium service

BA1/2 is still bookable from 25 october onwards. Is it confirmed it will not come back then, or maybe they'll fly it for a few months before cancelling it?

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by MEA-707
Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Any progress on the Russian Chinese jet CRAIC CR929?
Replies: 30
Views: 8103

Re: Any progress on the Russian Chinese jet CRAIC CR929?

I am hoping they will manage. It might be the last totally new widebody I can take a flight on in my lifetime. Not that I'll expect to die soon but I can see Boeing and Airbus spend the next 20 years or so on some newer versions of the 350 and 787 before making a clean sheet widebody again, especial...

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by MEA-707
Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Just what made the DC-8 Super 73 freighter so popular?
Replies: 32
Views: 7433

Re: Just what made the DC-8 Super 73 freighter so popular?

There are a few things to be taken into consideration - The stretched DC-8s were only 10-15 years old when they were converted between 1982 and 1985. Combined with modern CFM56 engines it gave a stage III quiet aircraft with economics comparible to more modern types. For instance UPS which only need...

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by MEA-707
Sat Jul 18, 2020 2:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Last ERJ - Embraer Regional Jet Delivered: a end of an era and the history behind it !
Replies: 84
Views: 14937

Re: Last ERJ - Embraer Regional Jet Delivered: a end of an era and the history behind it !

What's also remarkable is that no pilot or passenger ever died yet on any Embraer 145 family jet. (yes it had a macaber role in the GOL accident). As someone from Embraer itself is active here, I am behind airlinerlist.com and always wondered: 15 MSNs have not been used as far as I know, 591, 1028, ...

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by MEA-707
Sat Jul 18, 2020 2:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Sud Aviation SE-210 Caravelle Thread
Replies: 127
Views: 16804

Re: The Sud Aviation SE-210 Caravelle Thread

It's a pity this thread was dying. Not sure, maybe VirginFlyer got a busy job. Just want to give this great thread a push so I decided to try and add MSN 12 in his style. Hope you guys enjoy my effort: MSN 12 – Caravelle III (converted from I) First flight: 8 october 1959 Operator : Air France Deliv...

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by MEA-707
Sat Jul 18, 2020 1:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates Network & Fleet discussion 2020
Replies: 1753
Views: 51880

Re: Emirates cancels SCL

Maybe when they will have 787s this route might work again. The whole business model of EK and QR as copycat works in giving thousands of citypairs one stop connection. I actually expected them to roll out more secundairy cities so you could eventually fly Groningen-Mombasa or Olbia-Siem Reap with o...

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by MEA-707
Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aeroflot Group Makes a Big Announcement and Shift In Their Strategy
Replies: 80
Views: 26913

Re: Aeroflot Group Makes a Big Announcement and Shift In Their Strategy

They will probably keep around 40 A320-321s for the typical Paris/Frankfurt/Rome kind of flights, replaced by NEO's later. They are already shrinking their A320 fleet for a while. If the MC-21 is really good and safe they might end up using them to permium routes but I don't expect it to happen tbh....

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by MEA-707
Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Bamboo's Embraer E-Jets Fleet - News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 137
Views: 22865

Re: Bamboo wants to invest in 4 Embraer E-jets for VCS service

Apart from the RAM machines, there are other candidates too. If they call Azul I am sure they are happy to offload either some 195s which are 3-10 years old or some new 195E2s.

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by MEA-707
Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:56 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: ​Internal tussle as Boeing weighs future of 747
Replies: 378
Views: 60604

Re: ​Internal tussle as Boeing weighs future of 747

My first guess was a consortium of the customers, since we had read that five customers signed a letter to Boeing asking them to keep the line open. . I think these five airlines are just opportunists. You'd think Cargolux, Atlas Air etc would love to order more 748Fs. For sure Boeing offered them ...

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by MEA-707
Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: CN3 order 105 ARJ21s from COMAC
Replies: 102
Views: 23083

Re: CN3 order 105 ARJ21s from COMAC

Those COMAC airframes are literally "regional jets" as they won't be acquired by any carrier out of China... Regardless of how trashy the MA60 was, as of 2018 it was in use or on order by airlines in 14 different countries and 8 non-Chinese air forces. Not one MA60 made it to the HMV. The...

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by MEA-707
Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2020
Replies: 78
Views: 15477

Re: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2020

EMBSPBR wrote:
Fourth E190-E2 delivered on June 26th. to Helvetic Airways, HB-AZD, msn 1902003.

Courtesy picture by Emerson Farias:

Image

I think the msn is 19020031. :-)

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by MEA-707
Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:30 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Question about Pan Am's A310-200s
Replies: 77
Views: 10903

Re: Question about Pan Am's A310-200s

Was the intention to get rid of all the 747s and replace them with 310s? Or was it supplemental? They had not much options as they ran out of money. Airbus and Fokker (they were about to get 30 Fokker 100s) were more eager to bag this prestigious name (faded glory) to their operator list and offere...

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by MEA-707
Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 747 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020
Replies: 195
Views: 55414

Re: Boeing 747 Production/Delivery Thread - 2020

Thx for the quick answer, so L/N 1558 will become : 747-8F, RC610, AirBridgeCargo (NTU) , UPS, serial number 63784, (VQ-BIO > N6009F > N784TD) N624UP. Regards, Peter To be strictly correct it's Volga-Dnepr UK Ltd ntu. AirBridgeCargo is just the division it's operated by. The reg sequence began with...

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by MEA-707
Fri Jun 19, 2020 2:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Sud Aviation SE-210 Caravelle Thread
Replies: 127
Views: 16804

Re: The Sud Aviation SE-210 Caravelle Thread

Good to see you manage to post about a frame every day for over a week already. I can't wait til next wednesday to see if you manage to find pictures of OY-KRB and PP-VJD.

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