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by Virtual737
Tue May 16, 2017 8:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Here we go again -- B6's turn in the barrel
Replies: 39
Views: 9187

Re: Here we go again -- B6's turn in the barrel

Sounds like somebody wanted to have their cake and seat it.

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by Virtual737
Sat Apr 15, 2017 4:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane
Replies: 2119
Views: 147953

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

This drivel: http://asiajack.news/2017/04/15/sort-man-needs-dragged-aircraft-like-naughty-child/ has been posted on a news site (I use that term loosely) today. Some highlights include: The title: What sort of man needs to be dragged from an aircraft like a naughty child? The character assassination...

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by Virtual737
Fri Apr 14, 2017 12:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane
Replies: 2119
Views: 147953

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

neutrino wrote:
dc9northwest wrote:
Can we call this debacle Gategate?

Unitedgate or Unigate would sound better.
Next in line: Daogate or Davidgate.
Bronze prize: draggate.


Or IDB'd after the-gate.

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by Virtual737
Thu Apr 13, 2017 2:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane
Replies: 2119
Views: 147953

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

NorthTerminal wrote:
or make your contract very clear that at certain fares your seat is not guaranteed until push back...


Didn't someone post earlier that one current contract stated IDB could happen "at any time" and "for any reason"? I think they should at least limit this to below 10,000ft ;)

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by Virtual737
Thu Apr 13, 2017 1:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane
Replies: 2119
Views: 147953

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

Again, aboard an airplane you do as you are told. If you in your profession are empowered with command, the absolute emphasis in training should be on WHEN to use that power, not HOW to use that power. Misuse that power even once and you make your future task so much more difficult. I might come ac...

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by Virtual737
Thu Apr 13, 2017 9:34 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane
Replies: 2119
Views: 147953

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

Are there any other industries that can revoke their product after selling it to a paying customer in a similar way? Imagine you are in your Hotel room and suddenly you get thrown out for some Hotel workers needing sleep. There are some software licenses I've needed to agree to that say as much. On...

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by Virtual737
Thu Apr 13, 2017 9:08 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane
Replies: 2119
Views: 147953

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

How about the big 3 finally up their game and get serious about putting the customer first? I am not a moderator here but I would suggest you stick to arguments that have at least a slim chance of coming into being ;) Reading this thread, i got the feeling that airlines workers have been brainwashe...

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by Virtual737
Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane
Replies: 2119
Views: 147953

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

A question to those suggesting (and I'm not arguing with your opinion) that the gentleman should have got off the flight and then argued the toss with United. Have you ever tried this yourself? Once you leave that plane a great deal of your bargaining power has gone. You have already suffered the l...

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by Virtual737
Thu Apr 13, 2017 6:56 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane
Replies: 2119
Views: 147953

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

A question to those suggesting (and I'm not arguing with your opinion) that the gentleman should have got off the flight and then argued the toss with United. Have you ever tried this yourself? Once you leave that plane a great deal of your bargaining power has gone. You have already suffered the lo...

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by Virtual737
Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane
Replies: 2119
Views: 147953

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

OSUk1d - I'm with you on this.....people don't think about it in the big picture. They only think about it in the context of how it affects them personally....Ask them this....Say they were one of the passengers of that other flight.... It's not the customers responsibility (read that as problem) t...

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by Virtual737
Wed Apr 12, 2017 7:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane
Replies: 2119
Views: 147953

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

Yes, I would not refuse the command of a US policeman, simply because the use of excessive force is not unlikely to follow. But that does not mean that the passenger acted unlawfully and is legally to blame for what happened, this part solely rests with UA and the police. I would hope he sues and w...

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by Virtual737
Wed Apr 12, 2017 6:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane
Replies: 2119
Views: 147953

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

In the end the customer is the person most to blame for what happened. It has (and continues) to be argued that United was wrong to cite denied boarding regulations to remove this gentleman. It has also been shown that United's refusal of transport regulations do not cover the reason why they insis...

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by Virtual737
Tue Apr 11, 2017 5:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane
Replies: 2119
Views: 147953

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

I used the term "revoke" in reference to the act of changing the ticket status; this falls under their Contract of Carriage under refusal of transport: https://www.united.com/web/en-US/conten ... aspx#sec21 Passengers who fail to comply with or interfere with the duties of the members of ...

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by Virtual737
Tue Apr 11, 2017 3:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane
Replies: 2119
Views: 147953

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

I do not want any law to be changed that would justify criminal actions to settle a civil dispute. If you had the right to disrupt the business of someone who you have a contractual disagreement through trespass and resisting arrest, our country would be a very different place and it would not be a...

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by Virtual737
Tue Apr 11, 2017 2:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane
Replies: 2119
Views: 147953

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

A couple of things I'm finding very frustrating about aviation (not only in the US) in general: 1.) The "We do this to stop another 911" type argument, which the speaker generally thinks gives them the right (perhaps it does by the letter of the law) to do anything to anyone in the name of...

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by Virtual737
Sat Feb 04, 2017 5:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Help! Identify Airline By Upholstery Pattern
Replies: 3
Views: 1492

Re: Help! Identify Airline By Upholstery Pattern

Search for A330 reg A6-EYW. Think it was originally ETIHAD but now Alitalia. Was sporting that seat pattern at least while it was with ETIHAD. I fly ETIHAD a lot and have never seen that pattern, so tracing the linearage of that frame further might give you a complete answer. EDIT: Looks like it was...

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by Virtual737
Wed Jul 20, 2016 2:43 am
Forum: Site Related
Topic: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion
Replies: 2550
Views: 352858

Re: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion

Once again, an ad blocker fixes all that in a trice. It's free (or some are), easy to install and I never see an ad, anywhere. Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately I cannot install an ad blocker on the PC that I would mainly view A.NET from. I develop web apps and I need to view / test these we...

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by Virtual737
Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:32 am
Forum: Site Related
Topic: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion
Replies: 2550
Views: 352858

Re: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion

I totally get the need for advertising revenue. However, when the use of adverts totally distracts from the actual data the visitor came to the site for then somebody has lost the plot. 2 examples: 1.) On more than one occasion I've have an advert towards the top right of the forum that, when I scro...

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