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by Klaus
Sat Mar 07, 2020 2:53 am
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Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

None of that removes the stain of the completely missing mandate for the hard and probably even crash-out Brexit the current UK government is pursuing now. It is for very good reason that it is generally accepted practice internationally to require at least a 66% if not 75% majority for fundamental ...

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by Klaus
Fri Mar 06, 2020 11:37 pm
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

I wonder if it is time to open a separate thread on the shape of the sector by sector agreements. Even the word 'sector' may be too broad. No, because there won't be such sectoral deals with the UK. That kind of relationship exists with Switzerland and the EU is pushing hard to get rid of it becaus...

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by Klaus
Fri Mar 06, 2020 11:31 pm
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Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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IIRC even WTO is going to require a fair amount of bureaucratic agility and logistics planning. WTO will not cover everything that needs arranging, it is not fast enough for some essential supplies. Also WTO is not fully staffed at its top level. It is useful, but not a full solution. If the UK has...

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by Klaus
Fri Mar 06, 2020 3:07 pm
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Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

Difference here is the US is not demanding we sign up to follow US law as constituted by Congress, The USA doesn't even have a Single Market – their state-differentiated markets are much more fragmented than the EU's Single Market, which is why federally agreed access to the US market is much less ...

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by Klaus
Fri Mar 06, 2020 11:04 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

At this point sector by sector trade deals may be a necessity. They will not be 'cherry picking'. Just the best deal that the UK//EU can negotiate, and they likely will be short term. No. The EU will not agree to that, because that is exactly the cherrypicking to the UK's unilateral advantage BoJo ...

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by Klaus
Fri Mar 06, 2020 11:00 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

The current Government is on record to be asking for CETA type agreement the template is there to do it in a shorter period Johnson is not asking for a better deal than Canada in trade. Of course he is, because the UK right on the EU's doorstep and thus without builtin transportation cost impedimen...

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by Klaus
Fri Mar 06, 2020 10:49 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

I do wonder when the anti Brexit whining and sulking will stop? A few months, a few years, decades? Anyone want to answer? Criticism will probably cease: 1. when Brexit stops being an utter and total trainwreck 2. when Brexit proponents stop pushing absurd, ridiculous nonsense about it 3. when the ...

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by Klaus
Thu Mar 05, 2020 1:48 am
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Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

Spin it what ever way you want, nothing changes from the fact we are still bound by EU legislation by hook or by crook Wrong. The UK has bound itself to the EU's rules for the transition period voluntarily! "Vassalage" is defined by being oppressed , by being bound without having a say ab...

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by Klaus
Thu Mar 05, 2020 12:24 am
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Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

Until I know what the final future relationship looks like I will let you know, but so far I’m a happy little vegimite, I’ve got what I wanted and that’s out of the EU You'd have had the same effect if you had just left for Australia while leaving the decision to those UK citizens who'd actually ha...

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by Klaus
Thu Mar 05, 2020 12:22 am
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Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

We can’t do anything different now as we are still in vassalage, That is another toxic lie. The UK as asked the EU to please let it enjoy the benefits of EU membership for yet a little longer (except having an actual vote, which is impossible without actual membership). The UK can choose to end tha...

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by Klaus
Mon Mar 02, 2020 8:04 pm
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Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

Well if the US Supreme court becomes the highest court in the land you may be able to deal more harshly with all the knife crime, more options to deal with white collar crime..... ...and its a state not a colony, probably the 54th or some such. There is absolutely zero chance of statehood with voti...

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by Klaus
Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:48 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

Interesting background interview with Michel Barnier, primarily giving perspective on his approach more than about negotiation details: https://www.spiegel.de/international/eu-chief-negotiator-michel-barnier-i-m-not-going-to-allow-myself-to-be-fooled-a-27e84642-2262-43b7-88cc-8fc212a7d6a7 (Click the...

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by Klaus
Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:08 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

I fail to see why security agreements need to be a part of a trade agreement. Trade is trade defence& security is another just as any climate accord is different. 3/4 ofvthe crap dosnt need to be in it. The European Union is about a lot more than just about trade and since the UK is losing all ...

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by Klaus
Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:31 pm
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Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

noviorbis77 wrote:
What since 1860 odd?

Yes, and increasingly so with the growing relevance of football worldwide since then.

When it was mostly just a domestic regional thing it was not an issue, but it's global now, and there countries are represented by national teams, all except for the UK.

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by Klaus
Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:35 am
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Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

I'm really lost with all this preoccupation on passports Really? It was a major Brexit propaganda point and it kept popping up when people were asked about their reasons for voting Leave and for the Tories, so it deserves remembering. It is peculiar how easily the Leave leadership has divorced itse...

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by Klaus
Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:38 pm
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Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Is football teams now how nations identify themselves? Yeah, national football teams are indeed one of the more visible embodiments of national identification, and the UK with its split teams always looked like an outsider there! It has been the case since long before you and I were born. I am sorr...

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by Klaus
Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:36 pm
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Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

noviorbis77 wrote:
Is football teams now how nations identify themselves?

Yeah, national football teams are indeed one of the more visible embodiments of national identification, and the UK with its split teams always looked like an outsider there!

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by Klaus
Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:34 pm
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Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

Blue passports? 50p coin? You mean those blue passports which the UK will now abandon the current british manufacturer over and is instead now ordering from a franco-dutch company who are manufacturing them in Poland and which will then have to be imported (with import duty paid!) to the UK? Those ...

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by Klaus
Thu Feb 27, 2020 3:48 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

Blue passports? 50p coin? You mean those blue passports which the UK will now abandon the current british manufacturer over and is instead now ordering from a franco-dutch company who are manufacturing them in Poland and which will then have to be imported (with import duty paid!) to the UK? Those ...

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by Klaus
Thu Feb 27, 2020 3:28 pm
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Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Uk abandon eu arrest warrant https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/feb/27/uk-to-withdraw-from-european-arrest-warrant Only consistent when you're turning the UK into a safe haven for tax evaders and other wealthy scoundrels to further incentivize Tory donations. And this: https://www.spiegel.de/...

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by Klaus
Wed Feb 26, 2020 3:05 pm
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

tommy1808 wrote:
You think those "democrats" in London will allow them a vote to leave?

You misunderstand: It's only "democracy" when a majority in England tells everybody else to shut up and do as they're told! :crazy:

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by Klaus
Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:02 am
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Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Why this guy, repeating the same message proved wrong for the last 4 years at least, can still be interviewed like a respectable source ??? The nickname in the German car industry for us is treasure island . . . we are a highly profitable, very important market. That's not even funny anymore. https...

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by Klaus
Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:39 pm
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Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Newsflash: UK government insisting on unfairly tilting the playing field towards the UK, shocked to find out the EU isn't actually keen on letting that happen: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/feb/25/downing-street-rejects-eu-opening-trade-offer “We agree the UK’s trade with the EU is signi...

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by Klaus
Tue Feb 25, 2020 1:39 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

Will be interesting to see the British reaction to this shocker clause, as it puts the UK's government before a binary choice almost immediately and without any warning There have been plenty of warnings all along the whole Brexit process: The EU has never left any doubt about its priorities; The U...

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by Klaus
Sun Feb 23, 2020 1:16 am
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Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

CAP + rural development is close to half of the EU budget. Nope. The entire budget sector which among other things contains the CAP is only a bit above a third, 39% in the current budget period. https://ec.europa.eu/info/strategy/eu-budget/spending/topic/eu-funding-programmes-2014-2020_en You could...

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by Klaus
Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:37 am
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Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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You all realize that 350 million per week divided per 450 million people is less then 1 euro per person and week? Per year we talks about 50 euro per person. The difference in butget discussioon is less then 0.1% of national gdp per year. Still way too much. That is quite obviously just a pretense ...

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by Klaus
Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:37 am
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Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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That whole raft of additional bureaucracy that needs to rebuilt in the UK because it can't use the common european institutions any more will be expensive, too, both erecting it and then feeding it for the duration, Is that really such a bad thing? All those jobs which were part of the function of ...

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by Klaus
Fri Feb 21, 2020 10:56 am
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Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

You all realize that 350 million per week divided per 450 million people is less then 1 euro per person and week? Per year we talks about 50 euro per person. The difference in butget discussioon is less then 0.1% of national gdp per year. Still way too much. That is quite obviously just a pretense ...

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by Klaus
Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:09 pm
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Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

The ugly truth is that the EU is demanding trade-offs. India and China are also going to come in with demands that won’t sit easy 10 Downing. As is everyone else. This is the reality of all negotiations. I see a lot of it - even the ECJ stuff - as posturing to allow late concessions. But the ideolo...

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by Klaus
Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:56 pm
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Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

Well airbus are now longer leaving the UK as previously predicted. And if they do ever stop making the wings in the UK, they won’t be moving production to the EU. It will be off to China. They are in the UK because: 1. the UK was in the EU 2. the UK was part of the same aviation authority which mad...

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by Klaus
Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:50 pm
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

The EU also said they will never reopen the WA either but they did, it might be subtle but it has changed along with the positions. Nope. The EU position was "The WA cannot be re-opened as long as the UK sticks to its current red lines! " Boris caved and threw out Theresa May's red lines ...

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by Klaus
Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:38 pm
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

Yep it is ambitious I agree, but the Treaty of Rome had only taken 9 mths to complete ...after years of serious bi- and multilateral talks and actual convergence efforts! That claim of yours is about as silly as saying that an olympic athlete just one day got out of bed and ran a world record with ...

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by Klaus
Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:34 pm
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I dread to think what the European news agencies feed people on the continent. We had it bad enough with the BBC. Yeah, the nowadays infamously weak-kneed BBC hasn't covered itself with glory at all during the whole Brexit saga. They've basically been led by the nose by lying, cheating, misleading ...

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by Klaus
Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:26 pm
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

The EU has been embedded in your societies and not resisted enough so you all become complacent. Well, as these threads have been shown long before, during and now after Brexit, we simply know a lot better what the European Union actually is and what it isn't, while the bizarre fantasies you've bee...

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by Klaus
Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:15 pm
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

At the end of the day, the UK government wants to invest money in NHS, farming, customs controls, increased civil service and many other areas. There are limits as to how much the UK government can loan in the market and bills have to be paid. Honestly, I'd never even thought about the direct cost ...

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by Klaus
Mon Feb 17, 2020 3:33 am
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No you claimed that being in the Schengen Area made it easier for cross border policing , all I’m showing is that it’s not the case at all. Yes, it absolutely is! It’s actully easier in the UK a police officer in Wales can make arrest in Scotland It is mostly irrelevant who's making the arrest as l...

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by Klaus
Mon Feb 17, 2020 12:59 am
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So you're not aware of the European Arrest Warrant, apparently, which is one of the things the UK is throwing away with Brexit. Yes I am awere of the European Arrest Warrant scheme Doesn't look like it. That's pretty much also how the EAW works No: it does not give the right for another nations con...

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by Klaus
Mon Feb 17, 2020 12:20 am
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

The UK is one nation my friend. Only occasionally, when the idea happens to suit you; At other times, the UK is suddenly four individual nations. And in reality it's neither of the two, really, but stuck in a dysfunctional halfway state with plenty of frictions caused by that incomplete state wich ...

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by Klaus
Sun Feb 16, 2020 8:59 pm
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

Wow you are an expert now on UK migration law. None of what I've posted had anything to do with migration law! These are your words “The UK doesn't have a problem with a "huge influx of migration", if anything it has problems with its own crappy and obsolete citizenship system”. Please en...

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by Klaus
Sun Feb 16, 2020 8:43 pm
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

The statistical correlation is too strong to dismiss it out of hand like that. But you have automatically accepted it. As plausible , given the evidence, not as proof! Listen to the chap from Wales. He knows more about Wales and Welsh current affairs than you. Clearly not, as his claim is diametric...

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by Klaus
Sun Feb 16, 2020 8:27 pm
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

Let's have a look at that: Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales aren't even consullted on how the "UK" is handling Brexit. Those decisions are made exclusively in No.10 in and by England alone and based primarily on english votes in the referendum (including english people currently livin...

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by Klaus
Sun Feb 16, 2020 8:26 pm
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

noviorbis77 wrote:
Wow you are an expert now on UK migration law.

None of what I've posted had anything to do with migration law!

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by Klaus
Sun Feb 16, 2020 7:35 pm
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“the English people living in Wales”. Honestly Klaus, that’s one of the best things I’ve heard all day. You have me in stitches and it’s made for some brilliant Sunday night comedy. It was the Welsh who voted for Brexit. I live in Wales so i know so. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/sep/22/...

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by Klaus
Sun Feb 16, 2020 5:58 pm
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

England is a country, the other ones are colonies dressed as part of an "Union". Luckily England and it’s 3 colonies became independent from a “union” that dresses colonies as “members”. Let's have a look at that: Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales aren't even consullted on how the &quo...

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by Klaus
Sun Feb 16, 2020 4:16 pm
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

Bad faith need not be assumed. The EU will look after itself. Trade with the UK will be enabled in so far as it is beneficial to the EU. Does anybody have a problem with that? And the UK will do the same. The difference is that for the EU a severe limitation of cross-channel trade is a mere bump in...

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by Klaus
Sun Feb 16, 2020 4:13 pm
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

Hmmm. The union has been perfectly successful for hundreds of years and still is now. The EU is a relatively new organisation power grabbing. Brexit is a clear example for the UK being anything but a "Union": England and Westminster are calling the shots and the other merely colonized reg...

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by Klaus
Sun Feb 16, 2020 4:10 pm
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

The UK is a country. The collection of EU states aren’t countries. All EU member countries are "countries", obviously, and that is not a problem other than for xenophobes. We can’t have huge influx of migration into our country. The UK doesn't have a problem with a "huge influx of mi...

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by Klaus
Sun Feb 16, 2020 12:30 pm
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

That's actually you're bias showing through No, the arguments you guys have been bringing for why no borders across the UK are great but no borders across the EU are horrible have just turned out to be nothing more than flimsy pretenses to obscure the real reason: Plain and simple xenophobia , noth...

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by Klaus
Sun Feb 16, 2020 12:28 pm
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

Like every policy implement by governments or institutions there are unintended consequences, I'm not going to defend or fight the reasons behind Schengen. Yes there are pro's and con's that come with Schengen; Does it make life easier for law abiding citizens?...... yes it does. Does it make life ...

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by Klaus
Sun Feb 16, 2020 12:20 pm
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

Oh really? Agricultural products will remain edible after a journey to Australia? And can be produced and shipped at a price that remains competitive against massive industrial farms in the US, Canada and Australia? How relevant do you think your distribution sector is to any of those countries? Co...

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