Re: Please explain Bill O'Reilly Popularity?

It's okay.... I hear Bill was absolved by the Pope today for any wrong doings.
Gee, I wonder how much that cost him ? ? ?

Re: Bill O'Reilly is out at Fox News

Has O'Reilly also lost his radio gig? I wonder where he might pitch up next as he's pretty toxic at the moment. Working for way less money with Glenn Beck at The Blaze...? Either that, or maybe Bill will flip and be taken in by MSNBC. :eek: I Recommend this guy to replace Bill at Fox: https://stati...

Re: Hate crime thread

I admit, I must have misunderstood the OP's use of the phrase White Christian terror in the original post... But I'm pretty sure the 4 white people that Kori Ali Muhammad gunned down the other day, while he said "Allahu Akbar," probably felt some terror. I do not know if they were Christia...

Re: Musician Prince Dies Aged 57

http://www.wfaa.com/news/prince-docs-reveal-several-prescription-drugs-in-confidants-name/431848290 GOLDEN VALLEY, Minn. - The long-awaited search warrants in Prince's death have been unsealed, revealing a lengthy list of prescription medications found throughout the singer's estate, some in the nam...

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

Don't tell me what I would tell anyone, you don't know me. But I would tell anybody that if the airline insists you must leave the plane, then you leave the plane. When authorities ask you to leave and you leave, you are much less likely to get injured. I have no sympathy for him. You apparently pr...

Re: RE: Happy Easter!

A good occasion to eat chocolate. Yes, and I bought Dove Milk Chocolate Eggs on sale this year ! :fluffy: https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/80aa89c1-ccec-46e6-b2ec-b2177e3655bd_1.25ba4358509b644d13bca77373ed9497.jpeg?odnHeight=450&odnWidth=450&odnBg=FFFFFF BTY, I believe that it's Good Wedne...

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

In all fairness he was not beaten as that article claims. For safety, they should have at least asked the passengers in the rows in front and in back of Mr. Dao to temporarily vacate their seats. IF, a security officer had been on either side of Mr. Dao, in his row, then standing him upright could ...

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

Interesting Read, http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/40233 In all fairness he was not beaten as that article claims. For safety, they should have at least asked the passengers in the rows in front and in back of Mr. Dao to temporarily vacate their seats. IF, a security officer had been on either si...

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

Again, they have whatever Illinois calls POST certification. They are not sworn police officers. I'm not sure at this is hard or why it matters. They are most certainly much better qualified than your typical security guard. It is a bit confusing however, since in that Chicago Tribune article which...

Re: What would the US domestic aviation market look like of you brought back pre-deregulation price floors?

Theoretically what would the US domestic aviation market look like if you try to get rid of the lumpenproletariat and the masses flying the skies after deregulation by bringing back some sort of a price floor, so only those the upper middle class or above could afford to fly regularly? Say the pric...

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

I just figured out what United could and should do in the future, Cancel the flight, remove all the passengers, move the airplane to another gate, and then re-instate the flight with another number for the same destination. It sure alleviates the need to Beat UP and Drag passengers off the airplane...

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

Gentlemen, hope this helps: A law enforcement officer (LEO) is any individual who is sworn in as a police officer, sheriff deputy, state trooper, or a federal agent to enforce the laws of the jurisdiction he or she serves. Some other careers that are considered LEO positions include: Air Marshal AT...

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

wingman wrote:

What UA and its security buffoons did to Dr. Dao was an abomination and now they will pay the price.

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

I still have some things to learn about this issue: 1) Was the Gate agent aware that he had to keep 4 seats for the deadheading crew before the boarding process started, and if yes he just forgot ? 2) Or he knew but theses 4 crew members came so late that he was thinking they were not coming ? We c...

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

It would also make it easier to put a security bag over the non-compliant person's head, for extraction, if necessary. Are you for real? :lol: Please tell me you are joking. Well... maybe not like the ones they use at Guantanamo Bay, but the "Anti-Spit Mask" type, that Police Departments ...

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

The force used by police must be proportional and reasonable. Do you think that was the case here, with a guy who was not actively resisting ? When they overstep the lines they absolutely can face sanction, I don't know why people think cops can do whatever they want. Mr. Dao did actively resist be...

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

However the question is, if it is a good idea to make crew orders open to debate, Where will this end? Sometimes the weather changes and you need to remove passengers after boarding, as you need extra fuel for a possible diversion, who would believe you and what do you do if the passengers refuse t...

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

Given Oscarito´s statements today: "We have apologized and given a 100% refund to EVERY SINGLE passenger on the flight" Had my family been on that flight we would have been traumatized, not that we would even think of suing, but sick, exhausted, and offended at what happened. I suspect mo...

Carl Vincent Strike Group ordered to Korean Peninsula

Carl Vincent Strike Group ordered to Korean Peninsula https://www.stripes.com/polopoly_fs/1.462805.1491780830!/image/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_900/image.jpg “We are sending an armada. Very powerful,” Trump said during an interview with Fox Business host Maria Bartiromo. “We have submarine...

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

What would have happened if the 'random seat selection' picked out a member of a family? Would the entire family be disembarked or what? On the ABC news Channel on Roku, I watched an interesting segment from an April 10th (?) Nightline episode about this incident, including interviews with passenge...

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

PlanesNTrains wrote:

If I had to wager how much he'll get out of this - and I personally don't care one way or the other - I'd think a $10,000,000 settlement. That's how bad this needs to go away.

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

Watching the brief excerpt of OM's interview on the BBC website it appears that he's pre-empted part of the results of the investigation he announced. If UA is not going to bring on LEOs to remove booked, paid and seated customers if insufficient numbers accept voluntary removal then does that mean...

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

Really good interview with Oscar this morning and while I agree he was late in saying what he should have in the first place he did...and he's right it's never too late to make things right. If anyone wants to watch.... http://abcnews.go.com/US/united-ceo-oscar-munoz-felt-sham-passenger-dragged/sto...

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

Someone posted this on another site: O'Hare and Midway are managed by the Chicago Department of Aviation who subcontract the security to a private security firm, Universal Security. So, I'm still not clear on exactly who was on the plane to get the passenger removed, Chicago Police Officers, or, Sec...

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

Geoff Fearns, a fare paying UA customer, was boarded onto a flight, and then forced to give up his 1st Class seat, the one he paid for, for a "more important" person. As Fearns tells it, a United employee rushed onto the aircraft and informed him that he had to get off the plane. “I asked ...

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

It has also been shown that United's refusal of transport regulations do not cover the reason why they insisted this gentleman was thrown off the plane. Not so fast; that was merely the interpretation of a law professor, writing for a law blog. He even begins his statement with the words, "In ...

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

The mass long term exodus of UA patrons is just a pipe dream... Agreed, but that doesn't mean it won't affect the company's bottom line. In fact it's certain that it will- the only question is to what extent. The effect may even be positive if enough people think as you do (cf. Chick-Fil-A). Events...

Re: UA Denies Boarding to Non-Rev Girl in Leggings, Social Media Revolts

Years ago the airlines guild lines for employees traveling or friends/family the travelers had to be dressed up. And everybody else was similarly dressed. http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/06/25/15/359DF25D00000578-3659743-Passenger_cabin_of_a_Douglas_DC_7-a-129_1466864153400.jpg Intention probab...

Re: UA Denies Boarding to Non-Rev Girl in Leggings, Social Media Revolts

I flew Non-Rev for 10 years as an employee of AA in the 1990s. Back then for Non-Rev, it was parents, spouse, and children only, there were no "friend" passes. So, I and my parents knew the dress code well enough. On my first ever trip to HNL from Dallas, the flights were running full. I w...

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

This topic is proof of how out of touch with reality some people are in the Aviation Geek bubble that is Airliners.net Most of you won't change your minds or positions or admit you were wrong but hopefully this situation helps provide perspective of things outside the bubble After the Leggingsgate ...

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

Sausage making has always been a dirty thing, especially with millions of citizen journalist these days. Ultimately one needs to remember airline (as in any private business) can refuse service and ask people to leave. In airline case its process of invoking involuntary denied boarding. I guess the...

Re: Another United gaffe - forces doctor off plane

"Failure to follow flight crew instructions" - you mean the instructions to leave in violation of the Contract of Carriage? Rule 21 spells out the only reasons United can remove someone from an aircraft, none of which applied to this customer. By boarding him, they threw Rule 25 out the w...

Re: How many Senate votes

IT'S OFFICIAL ! !

LET JUSTICE REIGN !!!

Re: Trump considering options for Syria retaliation!

Buchanan on Syria: McCain, Graham, Rubio Are Not Going to Get ‘the War They Want’ 10 Apr 2017 http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/04/10/buchanan-on-syria-mccain-graham-rubio-are-not-going-to-get-the-war-they-want/ Monday on Laura Ingraham’s nationally syndicated radio show, conservative commentator...

Re: How many Senate votes