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by wernerga3
Thu Apr 25, 2019 5:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #2 | Launch Era: An Austere Approach to a Well-Received Behemoth (1970-1976)
Replies: 41
Views: 9922

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #2 | Launch Era: An Austere Approach to a Well-Received Behemoth (1970-1976)

ozark1 wrote:
I'm not sure if you have mentioned it, but in the front of the F/C cabin there is a bulkhead that looks like it has a bi-fold door in it. Would that be where the mechanics could access the radome, etc.? Thanks for your terrific work.


That was a coat closet for F/C passengers.

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by wernerga3
Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Articles- Introduction of Concept
Replies: 42
Views: 8718

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Articles- Introduction of Concept

Sounds great, let it fly Sounds really cool! Please post Sounds great, I am definitely interested and look forward to seeing your articles. I'm most curious in an article on the final era of the Pan Am 747: 1987 to 1991. I look forward to the information on the pre-launch & launch era. I am sur...

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by wernerga3
Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #1 | Pre-Production Era: An Evolving Mock-Up Used to Create Hype (1966-1970)
Replies: 39
Views: 9612

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #1 | Pre-Production Era: An Evolving Mock-Up Used to Create Hype (1966-1970)

Thank you for the great article, looking forward for the next ones! Thank you for putting such a huge effort into this project as it is truly an education for all of us. Thank you for this, and I look forward to future posts! Very pleased to have seen this historical and very informational post, ch...

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by wernerga3
Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #2 | Launch Era: An Austere Approach to a Well-Received Behemoth (1970-1976)
Replies: 41
Views: 9922

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #2 | Launch Era: An Austere Approach to a Well-Received Behemoth (1970-1976)

Wow. What an amazing article. THANK YOU! Priceless contribution!!!!! well done! Fantastic article and photos, thank you so much for your work!! Once again, thank you for this amazing article. Looking forward to the early 1980s, when I flew extensively on Pan Am's 747s. What a super article! Thank y...

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by wernerga3
Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #3 | Bi-Centennial Era: The New 747-SP Brings a Patriotic Look at Heritage (1976-1984)
Replies: 38
Views: 14712

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #3 | Bi-Centennial Era: The New 747-SP Brings a Patriotic Look at Heritage (1976-1984)

Thank you so much for these articles, I can't wait for the next one! Very good stuff. Very good! Incredible detail. Time machine. Great article! I really loved reading it. Thanks Awesome articles. Another excellent article, thank you! Thank you again for such an elaborate report! #3 is a great arti...

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by wernerga3
Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #4 | Refresh Era: Even During Financial Difficulties, You Can Still Look Good (1984-1987)
Replies: 23
Views: 6035

Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #4 | Refresh Era: Even During Financial Difficulties, You Can Still Look Good (1984-1987)

Hi fellow forum members. As stated, I will be posting once a week for five weeks with each subsequent era article. This is the fourth article of five. Stay tuned each week for the rest of the story! I have cleared these articles with the moderators, and have created a separate thread which introduce...

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by wernerga3
Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:08 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: Domestic Delta A350 Bliss: DEN-LAX, LAX-ATL, ATL-DEN
Replies: 10
Views: 10927

Re: Domestic Delta A350 Bliss: DEN-LAX, LAX-ATL, ATL-DEN

Domestic Delta on an airbus is the best economy experience I've had in the US. Economy on the a350 was thoroughly disappointing and taints an otherwise great aircraft. Really disappointing how they managed to make it poor especially for international routes. Yeah when I looked at the economy cabin ...

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by wernerga3
Wed Apr 24, 2019 6:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why are UA´s 777-300ER designated as 777-322ERs?
Replies: 71
Views: 14221

Re: Why are UA´s 777-300ER designated as 777-322ERs?

slcguy wrote:
wernerga3 wrote:
So was Pan Am's 21 since the initial 747-100s were the 747-121?


Yes, Pan Am's code was 21.

Look up Boeing airline codes on Wikipedia, good article on the codes and a complete list of all the codes.

Thank you!

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by wernerga3
Wed Apr 24, 2019 6:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #3 | Bi-Centennial Era: The New 747-SP Brings a Patriotic Look at Heritage (1976-1984)
Replies: 38
Views: 14712

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #3 | Bi-Centennial Era: The New 747-SP Brings a Patriotic Look at Heritage (1976-1984)

In anticipation of the next article dropping tomorrow, I wanted to give those who have not seen these threads a chance to catch up. Bump!

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by wernerga3
Wed Apr 24, 2019 6:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #2 | Launch Era: An Austere Approach to a Well-Received Behemoth (1970-1976)
Replies: 41
Views: 9922

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #2 | Launch Era: An Austere Approach to a Well-Received Behemoth (1970-1976)

In anticipation of the next article dropping tomorrow, I wanted to give those who have not seen these threads a chance to catch up. Bump!

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by wernerga3
Wed Apr 24, 2019 6:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #1 | Pre-Production Era: An Evolving Mock-Up Used to Create Hype (1966-1970)
Replies: 39
Views: 9612

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #1 | Pre-Production Era: An Evolving Mock-Up Used to Create Hype (1966-1970)

In anticipation of the next article dropping tomorrow, I wanted to give those who have not seen these threads a chance to catch up. Bump!

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by wernerga3
Wed Apr 24, 2019 6:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Articles- Introduction of Concept
Replies: 42
Views: 8718

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Articles- Introduction of Concept

In anticipation of the next article dropping tomorrow, I wanted to give those who have not seen these threads a chance to catch up. Bump!

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by wernerga3
Wed Apr 24, 2019 6:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why are UA´s 777-300ER designated as 777-322ERs?
Replies: 71
Views: 14221

Re: Why are UA´s 777-300ER designated as 777-322ERs?

So was Pan Am's 21 since the initial 747-100s were the 747-121?

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by wernerga3
Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:45 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: American Airlines Business Class 737-800 Philadelphia to St. Maarten: A Spring Break Down South *VIDEO FLIGHT REPORT*
Replies: 8
Views: 6220

Re: American Airlines Business Class 737-800 Philadelphia to St. Maarten: A Spring Break Down South *VIDEO FLIGHT REPORT

I flew AA (757) every year to SXM from JFK, from 1993 until 2007. How is it now? I still hear some pretty sketchy stories about tourist attacks, and from the looks of things they are STILL rebuilding, even after a few years. Are they only flying the 737 there now, and no longer the 757? It’s still ...

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by wernerga3
Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:40 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: 767-300 (non-ER) Transatlantic
Replies: 28
Views: 4062

Re: 767-300 (non-ER) Transatlantic

I do not believe the 763 (non ER) is ETOPS certified- Therefore I would think they would substitute a different craft which is. Hasn't the 763 non-ER flown LAX to HNL? I'm confident that no non ETOPS aircraft has been used in a 121 operation for mainland to HNL, which would require a 180' ETOPS app...

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by wernerga3
Tue Apr 23, 2019 2:27 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: 767-300 (non-ER) Transatlantic
Replies: 28
Views: 4062

Re: 767-300 (non-ER) Transatlantic

Good day everyone, According to airfleets.net, Delta Airlines currently has two Boeing 767-300 (non-ER's) in their fleet. Lets say, for example, if a Boeing 767-300ER was going to fly a route from JFK-CDG, but that airplane was late or there was a mechanical problem with the aircraft, could a 767-3...

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by wernerga3
Tue Apr 23, 2019 1:49 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: Domestic Delta A350 Bliss: DEN-LAX, LAX-ATL, ATL-DEN
Replies: 10
Views: 10927

Re: Domestic Delta A350 Bliss: DEN-LAX, LAX-ATL, ATL-DEN

So, I recently took a United 788 from DEN-IAD, and I have to say, I preferred its antiquated 2013 polaris seat to the new delta one suite seat. While the Delta suite was more private, the seat was not as comfortable. I have not had the opportunity to fly the new polaris offering in the 772, 764, or ...

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by wernerga3
Tue Apr 23, 2019 1:46 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: American Airlines Business Class 737-800 Philadelphia to St. Maarten: A Spring Break Down South *VIDEO FLIGHT REPORT*
Replies: 8
Views: 6220

Re: American Airlines Business Class 737-800 Philadelphia to St. Maarten: A Spring Break Down South *VIDEO FLIGHT REPORT

I flew AA (757) every year to SXM from JFK, from 1993 until 2007. How is it now? I still hear some pretty sketchy stories about tourist attacks, and from the looks of things they are STILL rebuilding, even after a few years.

Are they only flying the 737 there now, and no longer the 757?

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by wernerga3
Tue Apr 23, 2019 1:43 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: 1985 Pan Am LHR-LAX-SYD 747 & 747SP - a (former) kid's memories
Replies: 18
Views: 17681

Re: 1985 Pan Am LHR-LAX-SYD 747 & 747SP - a (former) kid's memories

PAA did the Forces Charter Rest & Recuperation (R&R) flights from Saigon to Sydney return during the Vietnam War on 707's. I was on one such flight just after the TET offensive in Feb 68 returning to Saigon, left around 9am and I still remember the lunch that was served on board. Steak and ...

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by wernerga3
Mon Apr 22, 2019 8:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Articles- Introduction of Concept
Replies: 42
Views: 8718

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Articles- Introduction of Concept

I like the 2-4-3 layout for 9-abreast. Perhaps in the future the inflight entertainement systems won't tie everything to 3-3-3. If you like 3-4-2, I think you'll like the first two articles quite a bit. 1) https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1419683 2) https://www.airliners.net/...

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by wernerga3
Mon Apr 22, 2019 8:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #3 | Bi-Centennial Era: The New 747-SP Brings a Patriotic Look at Heritage (1976-1984)
Replies: 38
Views: 14712

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #3 | Bi-Centennial Era: The New 747-SP Brings a Patriotic Look at Heritage (1976-1984)

I believe the 747SPs eventually went to a 47 First, 100 Clipper (between doors 2 and 3) and 86 Economy seats (between doors 3 and 4) configuration; flight attendants loved working the coach section, but the Clipper Class was a nightmare to work for many due to the sheer number of pax. When UA took ...

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by wernerga3
Mon Apr 22, 2019 5:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Articles- Introduction of Concept
Replies: 42
Views: 8718

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Articles- Introduction of Concept

Perhaps a little unrelated, but Pan Am was one of the leaders in ETOPS, when they shut down they'd flown more ETOPS hours than anyother airline. That was because they were replacing 747s with A310s as the main backbone of their transatlantic fleet. I don't know if people are interested in these pho...

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by wernerga3
Mon Apr 22, 2019 3:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #3 | Bi-Centennial Era: The New 747-SP Brings a Patriotic Look at Heritage (1976-1984)
Replies: 38
Views: 14712

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #3 | Bi-Centennial Era: The New 747-SP Brings a Patriotic Look at Heritage (1976-1984)

On the upper deck how did the 10 windows fall relative to the initial 3 windows. I know that there were two between each which takes it up to 7 windows. How many windows were added fore and/or aft of the initial set of three spaced windows? This should answer your question: https://imgproc.airliner...

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by wernerga3
Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #3 | Bi-Centennial Era: The New 747-SP Brings a Patriotic Look at Heritage (1976-1984)
Replies: 38
Views: 14712

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #3 | Bi-Centennial Era: The New 747-SP Brings a Patriotic Look at Heritage (1976-1984)

Thanks all for clarification- my comment referred to the upper deck interior. Next question- article mentioned PA pax paid a premium- but fares were set by IATA and the CAB back then- did PA just restrict the number of promo seats for sale on SP routes? If you look closely at the scale engineering ...

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by wernerga3
Sun Apr 21, 2019 3:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #3 | Bi-Centennial Era: The New 747-SP Brings a Patriotic Look at Heritage (1976-1984)
Replies: 38
Views: 14712

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #3 | Bi-Centennial Era: The New 747-SP Brings a Patriotic Look at Heritage (1976-1984)

I don't believe the SP upper deck was larger- maybe PA had some weird configuration in their 100's that made it smaller, but having logged countless flights upstairs on other airlines' -100/-200/SP there was no size difference. The 747SP, compared to earlier variants, had a tapering of the aft uppe...

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by wernerga3
Sun Apr 21, 2019 1:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #3 | Bi-Centennial Era: The New 747-SP Brings a Patriotic Look at Heritage (1976-1984)
Replies: 38
Views: 14712

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #3 | Bi-Centennial Era: The New 747-SP Brings a Patriotic Look at Heritage (1976-1984)

I also believe that due to the design of the -SP fuselage being shortened but the upper-deck "hump" remaining full length, the hump tapered into the main fuselage between the wings as opposed to the -100/200 blending in ahead of the wings. The -SP design created a more streamlined flow an...

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by wernerga3
Fri Apr 19, 2019 3:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #3 | Bi-Centennial Era: The New 747-SP Brings a Patriotic Look at Heritage (1976-1984)
Replies: 38
Views: 14712

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #3 | Bi-Centennial Era: The New 747-SP Brings a Patriotic Look at Heritage (1976-1984)

I never knew the SP upper deck was larger. Later build 747s also had the internally extended upper deck of the -SP. Did any of the used 747s that Pan Am had have the extended upper deck? From my research, no they did not. Source: https://www.panam.org/images/HistoryResourcesMuseumLinks/Pan-Am-Clipp...

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by wernerga3
Thu Apr 18, 2019 8:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #3 | Bi-Centennial Era: The New 747-SP Brings a Patriotic Look at Heritage (1976-1984)
Replies: 38
Views: 14712

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #3 | Bi-Centennial Era: The New 747-SP Brings a Patriotic Look at Heritage (1976-1984)

trent768 wrote:
I'm really interested in the sleeperette seat design! Did the leg rest swings forward and the support bar extends automatically or is it simply just an ottoman that slides forward?


From my research, the leg rest was manual:

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by wernerga3
Thu Apr 18, 2019 12:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Articles- Introduction of Concept
Replies: 42
Views: 8718

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Articles- Introduction of Concept

Sounds great, let it fly Sounds really cool! Please post Sounds great, I am definitely interested and look forward to seeing your articles. I'm most curious in an article on the final era of the Pan Am 747: 1987 to 1991. I look forward to the information on the pre-launch & launch era. I am sur...

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by wernerga3
Thu Apr 18, 2019 12:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #1 | Pre-Production Era: An Evolving Mock-Up Used to Create Hype (1966-1970)
Replies: 39
Views: 9612

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #1 | Pre-Production Era: An Evolving Mock-Up Used to Create Hype (1966-1970)

Thank you for the great article, looking forward for the next ones! Thank you for putting such a huge effort into this project as it is truly an education for all of us. Thank you for this, and I look forward to future posts! Very pleased to have seen this historical and very informational post, ch...

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by wernerga3
Thu Apr 18, 2019 12:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #2 | Launch Era: An Austere Approach to a Well-Received Behemoth (1970-1976)
Replies: 41
Views: 9922

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #2 | Launch Era: An Austere Approach to a Well-Received Behemoth (1970-1976)

Wow. What an amazing article. THANK YOU! Priceless contribution!!!!! well done! Fantastic article and photos, thank you so much for your work!! Once again, thank you for this amazing article. Looking forward to the early 1980s, when I flew extensively on Pan Am's 747s. What a super article! Thank y...

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by wernerga3
Thu Apr 18, 2019 12:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #3 | Bi-Centennial Era: The New 747-SP Brings a Patriotic Look at Heritage (1976-1984)
Replies: 38
Views: 14712

Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #3 | Bi-Centennial Era: The New 747-SP Brings a Patriotic Look at Heritage (1976-1984)

Hi fellow forum members. As stated, I will be posting once a week for five weeks with each subsequent era article. This is the third article of five. Stay tuned each week for the rest of the story! I have cleared these articles with the moderators, and have created a separate thread which introduced...

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by wernerga3
Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Articles- Introduction of Concept
Replies: 42
Views: 8718

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Articles- Introduction of Concept

I'm really looking forward to seeing it! Sounds really cool! Slightly off topic but related to Pan Am 747 cabins, a man in California recreated a 1970's Pan Am cabin using parts and other things from retired Pan Am aircraft. It has pretty much everything you can think of, such as the movie projecto...

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by wernerga3
Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Articles- Introduction of Concept
Replies: 42
Views: 8718

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Articles- Introduction of Concept

Perhaps a little unrelated, but Pan Am was one of the leaders in ETOPS, when they shut down they'd flown more ETOPS hours than anyother airline. That was because they were replacing 747s with A310s as the main backbone of their transatlantic fleet. I don't know if people are interested in these pho...

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by wernerga3
Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #2 | Launch Era: An Austere Approach to a Well-Received Behemoth (1970-1976)
Replies: 41
Views: 9922

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #2 | Launch Era: An Austere Approach to a Well-Received Behemoth (1970-1976)

It is interesting to see that Pan Am went with a more basic toned down color scheme with the simpler checkered pattern for the fabrics. In the 1970's, the flower type psychedelic patterns/colors were more common. Pan Am's interior seems to be more appealing than the psychedelic interiors, especiall...

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by wernerga3
Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Articles- Introduction of Concept
Replies: 42
Views: 8718

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Articles- Introduction of Concept

Found this today, check it out at 13:00 you'll get a full view of PA 747 deplaning in LHR with all 3 cabin (then) new seat designs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImWVArBrY_A Thanks for the resource. While all the articles are written, any photo contributions will aid in making them even better be...

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by wernerga3
Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #2 | Launch Era: An Austere Approach to a Well-Received Behemoth (1970-1976)
Replies: 41
Views: 9922

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #2 | Launch Era: An Austere Approach to a Well-Received Behemoth (1970-1976)

DenverTed wrote:
Did they have two armrests in between the two center seats in coach?


At launch, every single aerotherm coach seat had two movable armrests (one on either side of the seat). Therefore, there were two armrests between each seat pair (be it center or side rows).

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by wernerga3
Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #2 | Launch Era: An Austere Approach to a Well-Received Behemoth (1970-1976)
Replies: 41
Views: 9922

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #2 | Launch Era: An Austere Approach to a Well-Received Behemoth (1970-1976)

Where was the pilot rest area? From what I researched, there was not a dedicated pilot rest area on the PAA 747-121. My .02 cents is that they probably used a cabin seat to rest if needed, however I am not sure these planes ever went far enough in a single stretch to warrant crew rest. I am also no...

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by wernerga3
Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #2 | Launch Era: An Austere Approach to a Well-Received Behemoth (1970-1976)
Replies: 41
Views: 9922

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #2 | Launch Era: An Austere Approach to a Well-Received Behemoth (1970-1976)

The photo above with the stewardess sitting next to the little boy was in this set of Viewmaster slides that I once had. The set was entirely about Pan Am's 747. So wish I still had them! Yes they absolutely were! I actually used some of those photos from this archive: https://viewmasterworld.blogs...

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by wernerga3
Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #2 | Launch Era: An Austere Approach to a Well-Received Behemoth (1970-1976)
Replies: 41
Views: 9922

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #2 | Launch Era: An Austere Approach to a Well-Received Behemoth (1970-1976)

Did Pan Am have pilot bunks aft of the cockpit? Photos make it look like it does, or is that part of the galley? Was the upper deck dumbwaiter mounted in the floor like UA/AA, or was it in the galley unit? Those were not bunks, it was the galley (which was enlarged when the upper deck was converted...

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by wernerga3
Thu Apr 11, 2019 5:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #2 | Launch Era: An Austere Approach to a Well-Received Behemoth (1970-1976)
Replies: 41
Views: 9922

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #2 | Launch Era: An Austere Approach to a Well-Received Behemoth (1970-1976)

Question: Who decided who sat in the "Dining Rooms"? Was it first come, first served? Did you have to make a reservation? In advance or on board? Was there an extra fee? Would love to know any details about WHO got to sit in these special spaces. In the initial b-zone dining room- I was t...

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by wernerga3
Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Articles- Introduction of Concept
Replies: 42
Views: 8718

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Articles- Introduction of Concept

Sounds great, let it fly Sounds really cool! Please post Sounds great, I am definitely interested and look forward to seeing your articles. I'm most curious in an article on the final era of the Pan Am 747: 1987 to 1991. I look forward to the information on the pre-launch & launch era. I am sur...

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by wernerga3
Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #1 | Pre-Production Era: An Evolving Mock-Up Used to Create Hype (1966-1970)
Replies: 39
Views: 9612

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #1 | Pre-Production Era: An Evolving Mock-Up Used to Create Hype (1966-1970)

Thank you for the great article, looking forward for the next ones! Thank you for putting such a huge effort into this project as it is truly an education for all of us. Thank you for this, and I look forward to future posts! Very pleased to have seen this historical and very informational post, ch...

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by wernerga3
Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #2 | Launch Era: An Austere Approach to a Well-Received Behemoth (1970-1976)
Replies: 41
Views: 9922

Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #2 | Launch Era: An Austere Approach to a Well-Received Behemoth (1970-1976)

Hi fellow forum members. As stated, I will be posting once a week for five weeks with each subsequent era article. This is the second article of five. Stay tuned each week for the rest of the story! I have cleared these articles with the moderators, and have created a separate thread which introduce...

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by wernerga3
Tue Apr 09, 2019 4:17 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: Domestic Delta A350 Bliss: DEN-LAX, LAX-ATL, ATL-DEN
Replies: 10
Views: 10927

Re: Domestic Delta A350 Bliss: DEN-LAX, LAX-ATL, ATL-DEN

Just so you know, we are not on Standard time anymore, and you did not take these flights during Standard time. We are on daylight savings time. Your excellent report indicates that you flew on March 29 and March 30, 2019. Standard time ended in this country on March 10, 2019, when we did the annua...

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by wernerga3
Fri Apr 05, 2019 9:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #1 | Pre-Production Era: An Evolving Mock-Up Used to Create Hype (1966-1970)
Replies: 39
Views: 9612

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #1 | Pre-Production Era: An Evolving Mock-Up Used to Create Hype (1966-1970)

That letter from Boeing history above is not correct; the airplane used was PAA's #3 airplane, not their second...My father, Donald Knutson, was the pilot for the flight and N731PA was his test airplane Thank you for the clarification. You are truly a primary source. Even after hundreds of hours of...

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by wernerga3
Fri Apr 05, 2019 2:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #1 | Pre-Production Era: An Evolving Mock-Up Used to Create Hype (1966-1970)
Replies: 39
Views: 9612

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #1 | Pre-Production Era: An Evolving Mock-Up Used to Create Hype (1966-1970)

The airplane which made the flight to the Paris Airshow in June of 1969 was the fourth airplane, reg. number N731PA - not the third airplane (not counting the static and fatigue test airframes). When they refer to planes number 1, 2 and 3 in this Pan Am newsletter (below), they are referring to Pan...

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by wernerga3
Thu Apr 04, 2019 10:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Articles- Introduction of Concept
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Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Articles- Introduction of Concept

Sounds great, let it fly Sounds really cool! Please post Sounds great, I am definitely interested and look forward to seeing your articles. I'm most curious in an article on the final era of the Pan Am 747: 1987 to 1991. I look forward to the information on the pre-launch & launch era. I am sur...

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by wernerga3
Thu Apr 04, 2019 10:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #1 | Pre-Production Era: An Evolving Mock-Up Used to Create Hype (1966-1970)
Replies: 39
Views: 9612

Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #1 | Pre-Production Era: An Evolving Mock-Up Used to Create Hype (1966-1970)

Hi fellow forum members. I will be posting once a week for five weeks with each subsequent era article. Stay tuned each week for the rest of the story! I have cleared these articles with the moderators, and have created a separate thread which introduced the topic here: https://www.airliners.net/for...

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