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by unrave
Fri Jun 14, 2019 4:01 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 880
Views: 56155

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

Breaking from their previous stance of buying ATR aircraft outright, IndiGo has signed deal with Chous Aviation for SLB of 6 ATR aircraft to be delivered this year.
In other news IndiGo has slowed induction of ATR aircraft owing to pilot shortage.

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by unrave
Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 2003
Views: 263344

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

If India is a "FULL" (your word) signatory to the Cape Town treaty/agreement, why does the lessor have to pay unpaid dues on the plane (outstanding fuel and airport charges borne by the plane) before the aircraft will be de-registered? As dtw2hyd commented, the whole purpose of CTA was to...

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by unrave
Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 2003
Views: 263344

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

Antarius wrote:

Anyways, I'm done with this for good. Enjoy your failing airline and conspiracy theories and non-fact based quips.

And people lament why a.net loses so many posters and is left with quantity vs quality.


Don't let the ill informed trolls win.

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by unrave
Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 2003
Views: 263344

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

This thread seems to carry a lot blatant falsehoods masquerading as facts. Readers of this thread should know India is not a FULL signatory to the Cape Town treaty/agreement. Local courts still have a say on repossession, although things have improved since the days of Kingfisher. Remember: Always F...

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by unrave
Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 2003
Views: 263344

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

99 aircraft of Jet Airways have been deregistered by DGCA so far

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by unrave
Thu Jun 13, 2019 6:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 880
Views: 56155

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

FligtReporter wrote:
unrave wrote:
blrsea wrote:


IndiGo has finally run out of patience. Great win for CFM. Big loss for PW


Isnt this the same type of Engines that AI's A321s have ?

It is the same type of engines that the neos operated by AI and UK have

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by unrave
Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 880
Views: 56155

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

CFM wins blockbuster jet engine order from IndiGo: Sources Engine maker CFM International is poised to announce one of the world's largest jet engine orders with a deal for more than 600 engines from India's IndiGo, industry sources said. ... The two sides are putting finishing touches to the deal ...

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by unrave
Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:43 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 880
Views: 56155

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

https://www.financialexpress.com/opinio ... s/1605836/
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Yet another article that highlights the gross mismanagement of Air India under the previous government

https://www.financialexpress.com/opinio ... s/1605836/

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by unrave
Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 880
Views: 56155

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

dtw2hyd wrote:

Isn't AI technically debt free?


FACTCHECK: It isn't. Even technically.

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by unrave
Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 2003
Views: 263344

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

"We are interested but can't do it alone". Ha!

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by unrave
Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 880
Views: 56155

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

I will mark your words and will come back to you if its still flying beyond the time frame you've mentioned :) ..though I wont be surprised if it does keep flying for Ive been hearing about its shut down for a long time now So lets wait and watch :lol: That account has a proven track record of pred...

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by unrave
Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 880
Views: 56155

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

IndiGo to launch daily flights on Delhi-Chengdu from 15SEP Doesn’t Spicejet operate this route? If so, my hunch is that Spicejet will be driven out. Indigo may be ruthless in selecting routes that also penalizes Indian competitors. By the way, what exactly does india’s Competition Authority do? 1. ...

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by unrave
Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 880
Views: 56155

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

IndiGo to launch daily flights on Delhi-Chengdu from 15SEP

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by unrave
Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 880
Views: 56155

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

FligtReporter wrote:

Many indians would hate to admit but they secretly love indiGo i guess :D

I love successful companies that make money.
IndiGo is widely successful and makes a lot of money.

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by unrave
Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 880
Views: 56155

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

https://www.travel-industry-dictionary.com/capacity-dumping.html Not that I quite agree with this definition but how is this relevant wrt to 6E and 9W? One had 55% revenues from international ops and other had 5% Why just 9W? Did you forget SG had a near death experience a while back? Thanks to the...

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by unrave
Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 880
Views: 56155

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

https://www.travel-industry-dictionary. ... mping.html

Not that I quite agree with this definition but how is this relevant wrt to 6E and 9W? One had 55% revenues from international ops and other had 5%
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avier wrote:
unrave wrote:
Please look up the meaning of dumping in a dictionary.


https://www.travel-industry-dictionary. ... mping.html

Not that I quite agree with this definition but how is this relevant wrt to 6E and 9W? One had 55% revenues from international ops and other had 5%

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by unrave
Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 2003
Views: 263344

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

NG looks horrible but the banks and GOI look like they are bumbling along with no real way to restructure large companies without being accused of favoritism. Sorry, the banks and GOI have done a fantastic job so far. Not every company is worth saving. The banks are basically going to recover $0 th...

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by unrave
Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 880
Views: 56155

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

Without structural reforms in finance and aviation sectors, all airlines are just house of cards, ready to fall anytime. Vistara will be the lonely FSC for some time, but I am not sure it will in business for the next 25 years. With the fall of Jet the Indian airline industry is healthier than ever...

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by unrave
Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 880
Views: 56155

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

I just can't believe that Vistara isn't jumping in to a few key long haul flights like LON, HKG and on other EU hub where they partner with an EU airline for onward connections. I am all for being cautious but India's largest FSC just shut down. If now is not the opportunity when will? Just take 5 ...

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by unrave
Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 880
Views: 56155

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

Without structural reforms in finance and aviation sectors, all airlines are just house of cards, ready to fall anytime. Vistara will be the lonely FSC for some time, but I am not sure it will in business for the next 25 years. With the fall of Jet the Indian airline industry is healthier than ever

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by unrave
Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 2003
Views: 263344

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

CaliguyNYC wrote:

NG looks horrible but the banks and GOI look like they are bumbling along with no real way to restructure large companies without being accused of favoritism.


Sorry, the banks and GOI have done a fantastic job so far. Not every company is worth saving.

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by unrave
Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 880
Views: 56155

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

AIX has "96"(not a typo) permanent employees, AI has 11,000 permanent, AIX has 1000-1200 total, AI has 17,000 total, including contractors. Vistara is the only other airline in India can match AIX in employee efficiency. 6E actually the worst performer in employee count. PS: Numbers are a...

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by unrave
Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:32 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 880
Views: 56155

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

edealinfo wrote:

They brought in 5 new planes (4 737s and 1 A320 neo). The new routes don't seem too much to warrant 5 planes. Did they not also increase flights for existing routes?

You should follow route announcements more closely.

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by unrave
Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 2003
Views: 263344

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

CaliguyNYC wrote:
Vistara needs to find A US and EU airline that is willing to do a deep partnership like DL/AF/KL/VS did with 9W

What is the "deep partnership" that you speak ok?

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by unrave
Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Government Approved Jet Airways Reboot Version 3.0
Replies: 13
Views: 2246

Re: Indian Government Approved Jet Airways Reboot Version 3.0

I am amused by the optimism. If you actually believe Jet is going to take to the skies in July, I have a bridge that I am interested in selling.

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by unrave
Mon Jun 10, 2019 4:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 880
Views: 56155

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

Some BLR stats
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by unrave
Fri Jun 07, 2019 1:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 880
Views: 56155

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

https://twitter.com/sandeeprrao1991/status/1136976731066134529 After 1 month IndiGo has restarted Bengaluru-Phuket flight, this time with a much better timings. Arriving at Phuket around noon, which looks perfect IMHO. Bookings have reopened. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8daTqCVsAABNMg.jpg

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by unrave
Fri Jun 07, 2019 1:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 880
Views: 56155

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

I do have resentment towards entities which forget their core business and turn themselves into a Data Analytics and/or PR freakshows. EK, 6E, Tesla(non-av) are few examples. EK and 6E are highly successful airlines, unlike 9W and AI Dumping data on the public is not going to make them any better, ...

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by unrave
Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 880
Views: 56155

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

devmapper wrote:

:confused: why would the unions care? If the route is profitable, why would the unions care if they have to spend a day in a hotel in a large Indian city?


Those are just alternative facts from a parallel universe. Best avoided.

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by unrave
Wed Jun 05, 2019 4:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 880
Views: 56155

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

dtw2hyd wrote:

BLR is a numbers run airport. ;) ;)

BLR is a much more profitable airport than the white elephant that is HYD

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by unrave
Mon Jun 03, 2019 6:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 2003
Views: 263344

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

... I don't know what to say about your idea that the government whole and sole goal was to destroy Jet and now it it is upon it to resurrect it from dead. -R One would think, for a 3T Disney dollar economy, USD3.3B annual revenue company is worth saving. Who are we kidding? BTW, No one is asking i...

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by unrave
Fri May 31, 2019 7:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - May 2019
Replies: 347
Views: 35727

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - May 2019

He is a Minister of State with independent charge of aviation. They are making Civil Av a very low key

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by unrave
Fri May 31, 2019 7:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 2003
Views: 263344

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

Per law, once elections are announced, the government is not supposed to change any rules or even make important decisions. That law/rule was diligently enforced when EY requested open-offer waiver but pushed aside when it helps SpiceJet. Readers of this thread my kindly treat the above comment as ...

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by unrave
Fri May 31, 2019 7:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 2003
Views: 263344

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

Jeez guys. Why is it so annoying to you that some of us liked flying Jet. I am totally not annoyed that you hated Jet. Jet offered me good service and tons of options from BOM-EU plus a sky team connection. To each their own. . It is perfectly fine to have liked flying Jet. But to claim that Jet de...

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by unrave
Fri May 31, 2019 6:53 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Indian Politics Megathread
Replies: 131
Views: 22832

Re: Indian Politics Megathread

... Boom. "Indians wanted BJP and they got BJP fair and square." and hard work of the BJP workers. Chinese voted for Xi, Russia voted for Putin, Palastines voted for Hamas, DPRK voted for Kim Jung Un, Cuba voted for Castro, Iran voted for Rouhani with the hard of their party cadre. What i...

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by unrave
Fri May 31, 2019 6:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - May 2019
Replies: 347
Views: 35727

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - May 2019

IndiGo's upcoming international destinations:
- Vnukovo, Moscow, Russia
- Beijing, China
- Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam
- Mandalay, Burma
- Manila, Philippines
- Bahrain.

Source: Tarun Shukla, ET aviation journo

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by unrave
Wed May 29, 2019 4:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 2003
Views: 263344

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

dtw2hyd wrote:

You know that the traditional escape route is a bus trip to Nepal and to Antigua

There is passport control while crossing Nepal border by road.

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by unrave
Tue May 28, 2019 11:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 2003
Views: 263344

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

Do you realize that SpiceJet is getting 40 ex-Jet planes in less than 60 days [FACT]. - YES No other airline in the world has taken up so many planes in such a short period [FACT]. - CITATION NEEDED It is no mean feat [FACT]. - OPINION A lot had to happen [FACT]. - OPINION It is also an enormous ga...

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by unrave
Mon May 27, 2019 7:32 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 2003
Views: 263344

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

That's the question -- is he? Or rather, was he, before he showed up at the passport control desk? could it be a last-minute, knee-jerk reaction from a passport control official, who realized that such a high-profile figure, involved in a scandalous failure of a major airline, is about to get out o...

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by unrave
Mon May 27, 2019 4:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 2003
Views: 263344

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

I am defending the process of law. Something that you have time and again demonstrated that you have no idea of. So please tone down on your rants and let the adults in the board have healthy arguments. Naresh Goyal is under investigation for siphoning Jet Airways funds. He has rightfully been stop...

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by unrave
Sat May 25, 2019 4:58 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Indian Politics Megathread
Replies: 131
Views: 22832

Re: Indian Politics Megathread

The performance of the primary challenger to the ruling party was so pathetic that it did not secure enough seats (at least 10% of the total) to qualify for an official Leader of the Opposition post, which comes with a lot of perks, for the second time running. Its leader, a fifth generation dynast ...

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by unrave
Tue May 21, 2019 6:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 2003
Views: 263344

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

Where are the small townies who spoke of too little demand for long hauls from BOM. Back to back 9W's capacity is being restored at BOM, long haul too. Speaks of how lucrative the market remains out of the financial capital. Ofcourse these additions are not directed towards Surat/Vadodara travelers...

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by unrave
Tue May 21, 2019 12:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 2003
Views: 263344

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

dtw2hyd wrote:

Are there any estimates on how much is vendor debt?

Anywhere between Rs 7k to Rs 12k crore

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by unrave
Tue May 21, 2019 11:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 2003
Views: 263344

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

dtw2hyd wrote:

Are there any estimates on how much is vendor debt?

Anywhere between Rs 7k to Rs 12k crore

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by unrave
Sun May 19, 2019 7:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 2003
Views: 263344

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

Are you saying these are valid lessors? Never heard of them. MOORGATE AIRCRAFT 2007 LIMITED FLEET IRELAND AIRCRAFT LEASE 2007-A LTD FLEET IRELAND AIRCRAFT LEASE 2007-B LIMITED JIHB LIMITED JIHBTWO LIMITED BISHOPSGATE AIRCRAFT 2008 LIMITED Ameerpet Advanced Masters in Computer Science course should ...

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by unrave
Fri May 17, 2019 2:35 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Airlines Orders and Delivery Thread - 2019
Replies: 77
Views: 12450

Re: Indian Airlines Orders and Delivery Thread - 2019

MSN 8710 VT-IUD IndiGo A321neo #4 was delivered yesterday (16MAY19)
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A321-271NX, IndiGo, D-AYAK, VT-IUD (MSN 8710) by Mathias Düber, on Flickr

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by unrave
Thu May 16, 2019 3:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 2003
Views: 263344

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

Wasn't Jet's international market share out of BOM like 30% or 35% and most of Jet's pax are India origin. Also AI still carries pax out of BOM even with much fewer flights. So unclear where you are getting your facts. BOM has a ton of airline choices so let's not forget all the international carri...

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by unrave
Thu May 16, 2019 2:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 2003
Views: 263344

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

I think GoI just allocated unused (I am reading unused as prior to demise, not because of demise) India BASA Jet seats to AI and others. FACTCHECK: No bilateral seat has been redistributed so far, used or unused. The GoI is holding discussions with all airlines to arrive at a consensus on how to do...

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by unrave
Thu May 16, 2019 1:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 2003
Views: 263344

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

CaliguyNYC wrote:

I can't think of very many people in DEL/BOM/BLR that want more ME connectivity. People want more nonstop connectivity to different global cities and more airline choice

I can't think of very many people in DEL/BOM/BLR who pick Indian carriers over ME3.

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by unrave
Thu May 16, 2019 1:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 2003
Views: 263344

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

Look if India wants to ‘protect’ domestic carriers or offer access on basis of reciprocity, then do so by all means. Pick cities above a certain threshold of service for access control, I.e. cap airports like BOM/DEL/BLR at say 2 flights a day up to x passengers. Don’t block entry into 2nd or 3rd t...

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