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by Klaus
Mon Feb 10, 2020 3:16 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

Another loophole is getting plugged as we speak: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/10/eu-clamps-down-free-ports-zones-crime-terror-links EU clamps down on free ports over crime and terrorism links Moves comes as Britain launches consultation on creation of up to 10 of the zones Brussels is ...

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by Klaus
Sun Feb 09, 2020 3:27 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

Arion640 wrote:
If it needs to be extended it will be a last minute extension to put maximum pressure on the EU.

That pressure is almost exclusively on the UK, though.

This absurd self-limitation is basically BoJo holding a gun to his own head and making demands to an unimpressed Michel Barnier.

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by Klaus
Sat Feb 08, 2020 7:13 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

Spot on article by the telegraph: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/02/07/panicked-eu-goes-brexit-meltdown-britain-finally-has-upper-hand/amp/ The EU is panicking Uh, in a word: No. But clearly the Telegraph is, because they have been ramming a bunch of lies down thei...

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by Klaus
Sat Feb 08, 2020 12:54 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Anti EU within EU27 decreasing
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Re: Anti EU within EU27 decreasing

A lot said Poland and other Eastern bloc countries wouldn’t join. "A lot" being who ? You're employing standard trumpian smoke-blowing here. But they did. The UK was actually the main driver for that, always pushing for the shallowest possible EU but expanded to maximum area, and UK polit...

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by Klaus
Sat Feb 08, 2020 12:24 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

Sovereignty:the ability for the UK to make its own rules and standards as an independent nation The UK always had that, and actually to a much greater degree than it could outside of the EU, because for almost half a century the UK was actually able to influence or even veto the rules of the contin...

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by Klaus
Sat Feb 08, 2020 5:19 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

Yes am awere what the AU deals is, more like specific mutual recognition in agreed areas than an actual trade deal, we can still doing basic agreement if both sides agree on tariffs and such but if that not what the EU will do so be it. You're confusing a limited certification regime for foreign ex...

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by Klaus
Sat Feb 08, 2020 1:11 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

If there's anything that's similar to Brexit there, it's that many people love easy scapegoats to assign blame to instead of bothering with the actual facts.

Open a new thread if you must, but don't count on seeing me there.

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by Klaus
Sat Feb 08, 2020 12:52 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

Yes am awere what the AU deals is, more like specific mutual recognition in agreed areas than an actual trade deal, we can still doing basic agreement if both sides agree on tariffs and such but if that not what the EU will do so be it. You're confusing a limited certification regime for foreign ex...

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by Klaus
Sat Feb 08, 2020 12:50 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

Due to the self-imposed time limit, you're effectively no longer talking about NO DEAL then; you're effectively talking about NO BUSINESS. :shock: So you think the EU will stop all trade because we did sign a win-lose trade deal with the EU..... Ya dreaming mate If you fail to agree to a new deal w...

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by Klaus
Sat Feb 08, 2020 12:41 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

Shall we not have a new thread called UK EU FTA negotiations? The current thread is acting like UK is still a member and EU should act in the best interest of UK. UK is out. It is still aligned to EU standards, bu only so for another 10 month. The negotiations now are still part of Brexit, as will ...

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by Klaus
Sat Feb 08, 2020 12:40 am
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Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

De facto standardization to chargers with standard USB sockets was in fact driven by Apple for the reasons given, long before the competition caught up eventually, even if those facts don't fit the popular narrative. "OMTP standard - Micro-USB was endorsed as the standard connector for data an...

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by Klaus
Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:15 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

primarily because Apple introduced it that way with early iPods and stuck to the same principle all throughout iPhones and iPads since then, and the rest of the industry followed them. That earlier awkward EU mandate for micro USB had nothing to do with it. Hmmm... I think I detect a fanboy... That...

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by Klaus
Fri Feb 07, 2020 6:17 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

Walk away to a partnership agreement like the current AU/EU agreement If you're thinking of Australia there, that's almost nothing. The UK economy would crater if it was effectively cut off from the EU and it had to live with new massive barriers where there had been none. The "australian deal...

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by Klaus
Fri Feb 07, 2020 4:27 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

Walk away boris. To where , exactly? The slate is still blank on what, exactly, the claimed advantages would actually look like! (Let alone any kind of advantage that could make up for the massive loss of EU trade!) Right now it's just BoJo effectively threatening the UK's suicide as the alternativ...

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by Klaus
Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:23 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

I joked earlier with the bendy banana's but despite being a Euromyth from the 90's it's still on ! https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien/which-eu-law-can-we-now-change-four-brexit-calls/ Desperately trying to retroactively scrape together just any justifications for their already rigi...

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by Klaus
Thu Feb 06, 2020 9:02 am
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Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

Good Greif. How does the smaller nations like AU/NZ set their own standards survive. I had shown an example of differing fuel standards between AU to EU that doesn’t stop Euro countries from exporting vehicles to AU they use different techniques and or different motors for that market than their ow...

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by Klaus
Thu Feb 06, 2020 8:17 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

These EU lot are starting to sound like Americans who think they have influence on other countries and get them to do things. One such example took place on the a.net civil aviation forum where it was suggested the US should ban Lufthansa flying to Iran. The US is actually aggressively pursuing eur...

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by Klaus
Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:23 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

This will have to apply globally, so unless they want to end up blocking out all other nations financial services (or they don't mind being blocked from the rest of the world), the EU rules and regulations will have to be manageable and acceptable.Which in turn means UK will be able to manage them ...

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by Klaus
Wed Feb 05, 2020 7:39 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

Yes. Like every other normal country does around the world. That's fine and the other way around for the UK, just a 3rd country for the EU. Yes exactly. But every country not in the EU is a “third country”. With widely varying alignment to the EU, however, depending on treaties and agreements (whic...

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by Klaus
Wed Feb 05, 2020 7:29 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

Plus the Immigration Rules will apply, rather than EEA regs so we can start refusing entry to EU nationals at the border, who can’t satisfy meeting immigration rules. No, you can't "start" doing that because the UK always already could while still being an EU member! That you actually bel...

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by Klaus
Wed Feb 05, 2020 7:13 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

The EU can mandate whatever rules it wishes (essentially) for its governed regions, and it can isolate or insulate itself as well. China does it so I won't be at all surprised if another governing body does the same. The world will adjust and be OK. The world has already decided in many sectors tha...

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by Klaus
Wed Feb 05, 2020 7:06 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

Plus the Immigration Rules will apply, rather than EEA regs so we can start refusing entry to EU nationals at the border, who can’t satisfy meeting immigration rules. No, you can't "start" doing that because the UK always already could while still being an EU member! That you actually bel...

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by Klaus
Wed Feb 05, 2020 7:02 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

I don’t think the worlds fifth biggest economy is that easy to ignore. Sure, but what does India have to do with anything here? we have an economy larger than france remember. Just marginally, at the latest estimate. You've already slipped to 6th place due to Brexit and that slide is likely to cont...

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by Klaus
Wed Feb 05, 2020 2:02 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

Seriously, you all must control the entire world being so united and not fractious at all and such. You really should take a moment and congratulate yourself! The EU is the result of exactly those experiences already made by the member countries when they were still isolated and divide and conquer ...

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by Klaus
Wed Feb 05, 2020 1:17 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

I don’t think the worlds fifth biggest economy is that easy to ignore. Sure, but what does India have to do with anything here? we have an economy larger than france remember. Just marginally, at the latest estimate. You've already slipped to 6th place due to Brexit and that slide is likely to cont...

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by Klaus
Wed Feb 05, 2020 1:12 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

Exactly that practical experience actually made in previous decades led to the creation of the common economic policies of the EU, and the EU has indeed become a global leader regarding regulations of all kinds – the USA is too fractured itself to be that beyond very basic standards all US states c...

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by Klaus
Wed Feb 05, 2020 12:42 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

Official the negitistions need to be finnished before october 15. https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1238115/brexit-timeline-eu-news-2020-goals-negotiations-michel-barnier-boris-johnson I guess that this is impossible... 2 options - wto from 2021 or another extension. I believe that the negoti...

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by Klaus
Wed Feb 05, 2020 12:31 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

JJJ wrote:
As BoE governor Carney put it: Sterling volatility is at emerging market levels and has decoupled from from other advanced economy pairs for obvious reasons.

The UK has just not actually exited economically yet.

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by Klaus
Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:48 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

Seriously, you all must control the entire world being so united and not fractious at all and such. You really should take a moment and congratulate yourself! The EU is the result of exactly those experiences already made by the member countries when they were still isolated and divide and conquer ...

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by Klaus
Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:31 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

One line for the 450 million. One line for the 7 Billion. Now the rest of the world needs to align itself with UK rules? Interesting. Yes they will need too when exporting to the UK,no different when exporting to the EU It is much less likely that a foreign producer will undertake the expense and e...

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by Klaus
Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:25 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

An Atlantic article mentioned decades ago that labor was concerned about control and Tory about influence. Prescient. But kinda reversed. UK is gaining some control and losing a lot of influence. Ps. Thatcher was wrong about direction of money flow. The south lost against the north. Still she was r...

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by Klaus
Tue Feb 04, 2020 8:10 pm
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Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

Guy V wants an EU army to face russia. I mentioned this upthread but was told why would the EU want to compete with Russia? Are you so out of any possible positives coming from Brexit that you need to dig up old distorted talking points to maybe steady your own wobbling confidence? Aren't there any...

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by Klaus
Tue Feb 04, 2020 1:56 pm
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Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

There is seemingly little to no interest to change education systems and everything is about what will win the next election, not about long term plans. Johnson's speech clearly set out their new goals: • aggressive deregulation (while name-dropping some specific current regulations at the same tim...

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by Klaus
Mon Feb 03, 2020 7:06 pm
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Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

noviorbis77 wrote:
Well some of us can look beyond the obvious and don’t just make conclusions after reading tabloids.

You're looking away from the obvious as your tabloids keep telling you, not "beyond" anything!

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by Klaus
Mon Feb 03, 2020 6:25 pm
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Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

None of us will know the truth behind that stupid letter until the culprit can be found. Actually, it is already explicit from the letter itself and there is hardly any plausible argument against the obvious conclusion. Unfortunately Brexit has drawn out some pretty unpleasant individuals. On both ...

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by Klaus
Mon Feb 03, 2020 6:20 pm
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Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

@ Point 3 - and spain will veto Scotland joining too. Nope. Plenty of politicians on record saying they won't mind as long as it's done legally. How exactly can someone join the EU illegally? Good question! :biggrin: I was of course referring to Scotland becoming independent with that! (But by impl...

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by Klaus
Mon Feb 03, 2020 4:55 am
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Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

If there are two different regulatory, labor, currency ecosystems abutting, by definition there will be a border with some friction. Sure, but only in the real world, so Boris and his posse aren't bothered. I watched Sophie Ridge interviewing Dominic Raab, and even for him that was an astounding co...

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by Klaus
Mon Feb 03, 2020 1:54 am
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Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

Of course it’s was always going to hinge on any trade agreement, but the EU-JPN trade agreement might just benefit the UK more than you think https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www.fleetnews.co.uk/amp/news/manufacturer-news/2019/02/01/new-eu-japan-trade-deal-could-reshape-european-car-market Well, tha...

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by Klaus
Mon Feb 03, 2020 12:58 am
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Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

Japan now has a fresh trade deal with the EU which makes direct imports more profitable, so Brexit might just be the straw that breaks the camel's back. Well according to the article it is linked from the Financial Times which reported, citing two people involved in the discussions. I can’t vouch f...

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by Klaus
Mon Feb 03, 2020 12:29 am
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Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

Wow an interesting turn of events if true, closing plants in the EU not the UK https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2020-02-02/nissan-s-brexit-scenarios-include-closing-european-plants-ft Nissan Motor Co has drafted a contingency plan to focus on its Sunderland plant ...

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by Klaus
Sun Feb 02, 2020 10:41 pm
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Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

They will have no choice if Scotland go independent and join the EU. The spanish government will have huge pressure on them, i’m shocked they’ve managed to hold on to Catalonia until now to be honest. I feel the independence movement there is larger than Scotland. The national spanish government ha...

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by Klaus
Sun Feb 02, 2020 10:35 pm
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Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

@ Point 3 - and spain will veto Scotland joining too. Nope. Plenty of politicians on record saying they won't mind as long as it's done legally. Okay, well it’s up to them...Catalan independence WILL follow, and flanders will be next. Nope. Both Spain and Belgium are full EU members with vetoes aga...

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by Klaus
Sun Feb 02, 2020 6:46 pm
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Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

Arion640 wrote:
Comparing 9/11 to a leaflet on a door in a block of apartments is laughable.

I'm comparing your contortions to the contortions of other people trying to throw smoke bombs in the vain hope of not having to confront the facts that way, but it's not working in either case.

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by Klaus
Sun Feb 02, 2020 5:50 pm
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

What evidence? The actual pamphlet combined with the whole flood of like-minded pamphlets and utterances all from the Brexit camp. Is it incontrovertible proof? Not yet. Is it obviously plausible and looking extremely unlikely that it's something else? Yes, it is. There is no evidence that a racist...

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by Klaus
Sun Feb 02, 2020 5:08 pm
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Topic: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

You don’t even live in the UK :) Common decency isn't fundamentally different across different countries. Nor is the opposite of it. You have no genuine idea of what people think other than Twitter and the tabloid media. I take an actual interest in what's going on and I talk to people. Over time t...

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by Klaus
Sun Feb 02, 2020 4:40 pm
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

So you have no evidence. One article and you have reached a conclusion. Ok :) The evidence is in the photo and in the report to the police who are now pursuing it. And your post is evidence that this kind of thing seems to be okay with you and you're only bothered by being seen next to it, just lik...

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by Klaus
Sun Feb 02, 2020 4:37 pm
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

It could easily been a remainer writing that to stir things up. I have yet to see any remainer thinking even just remotely the way you do. A look what I found message. Look at Brexit has caused. It is an explicit threat , effectively an eviction notice , just not from the landlord but intended to b...

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by Klaus
Sun Feb 02, 2020 4:31 pm
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

How was it our problem? Exactly to the extent that you could now be shedding legitimate tears – or not. Can you provide evidence please that a Brexit supporter printed that letter? Read it! I did read it. Again you provide evidence please that a Brexit supporter wrote this? Or are you assuming this...

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by Klaus
Sun Feb 02, 2020 4:16 pm
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

noviorbis77 wrote:
Can you provide evidence please that a Brexit supporter printed that letter?

Read it!

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by Klaus
Sun Feb 02, 2020 4:15 pm
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Re: Brexit Part 8: the UK government saying what I want is full access and divergence

EU is also about solidarity, Helping area's to get to a better standard of living. Which in turn helps the richer area's as well because it is a better market to do business in. Like Greece? Yes, like Greece. The default would have been Greece tumbling into bankruptcy and into a much harsher situat...

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