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by orlandocfi
Wed May 19, 2021 2:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Sriwijaya Air 737-500 (SJ182 CGK-PNK) crashes shortly after takeoff
Replies: 866
Views: 255271

Re: Sriwijaya Air 737-500 (SJ182 CGK-PNK) crashes shortly after takeoff

When the 737 autothrottles aren’t behaving as desired...which is often tbh...the pilots normally intervene by overpowering the servos or disconnecting the a/t. What is required under FAR 25 is when the autopiltot or autothrottle misbehaves it disconnects gracefully and generates a warning, if you a...

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by orlandocfi
Wed May 19, 2021 12:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Sriwijaya Air 737-500 (SJ182 CGK-PNK) crashes shortly after takeoff
Replies: 866
Views: 255271

Re: Sriwijaya Air 737-500 (SJ182 CGK-PNK) crashes shortly after takeoff

I don't think anybody has conclusively-shown that the autothrottle "malfunctioned" as opposed to the lever stuck and the autopilot system being one that monitors total thrust ended up advancing the non-stuck throttle to maintain total thrust. The autothrottle on the side that was moving w...

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by orlandocfi
Wed May 19, 2021 2:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is Silver Airways getting a new livery?
Replies: 19
Views: 4614

Re: Is Silver Airways getting a new livery?

Max Q wrote:
Is Silver code sharing with UA or otherwise affiliated ?

Noticed several of their ATR’s sharing United’s terminal in TPA


I believe they have cooperative agreements with United and jetBlue (also in the same terminal) but they are not traditional codeshares.

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by orlandocfi
Tue May 18, 2021 12:11 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: FAA putting inspections on 737-300, -400, and -500 Autothrottle wiring
Replies: 13
Views: 2245

Re: FAA putting inspections on 737-300, -400, and -500 Autothrottle wiring

SJ182 took off into an area of thunderstorms and crashed, but this wire is what they find suspicious? I’m not trying to defend Boeing, but it feels like the world is bending over backwards to exonerate crews that made fatal errors by blaming the automation. Have you had a look into REALITY? Not tak...

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by orlandocfi
Mon May 17, 2021 2:50 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: FAA putting inspections on 737-300, -400, and -500 Autothrottle wiring
Replies: 13
Views: 2245

Re: FAA putting inspections on 737-300, -400, and -500 Autothrottle wiring

It's the Swiss cheese again. Without the crew reaction to the issue (non reaction rather) the crash wouldn't have happened. Without the A/T malfunction, the crash wouldn't have happened. Shouldn't we try to plug as many holes as possible ? If only aircraft systems worked perfectly 100% of the time....

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by orlandocfi
Mon May 17, 2021 1:53 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: FAA putting inspections on 737-300, -400, and -500 Autothrottle wiring
Replies: 13
Views: 2245

Re: FAA putting inspections on 737-300, -400, and -500 Autothrottle wiring

SJ182 took off into an area of thunderstorms and crashed, but this wire is what they find suspicious? I’m not trying to defend Boeing, but it feels like the world is bending over backwards to exonerate crews that made fatal errors by blaming the automation.

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by orlandocfi
Tue May 11, 2021 9:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Orlando Aviation Thread - 2021
Replies: 252
Views: 35059

Re: Orlando Aviation Thread - 2021

I thought light rail was in the plan from the new MCO transportation hub to disney property. Brightline is supposed to add an extension to Disney and possibly Tampa, but there is debate over which direction to head from MCO...along 528 or 417. There should be a resolution in the next couple months.

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by orlandocfi
Sat May 08, 2021 10:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2021
Replies: 2536
Views: 340709

Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2021

While all the chatter has been about Hawaii, will they finally start using ETOPS to SJU and the Caribbean? I know they don’t even use WATRS or GOMEX consistently. I believe a few posts up it was explained that only a small portion of the fleet is equipped for overwater ops. That’s probably not goin...

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by orlandocfi
Thu May 06, 2021 9:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2021
Replies: 2536
Views: 340709

Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2021

So long as you don't expect it to be bi-directional. There are plenty of diversion points in the last three hours HNL-DAL. On DAL-HNL, not so much. AS had days with problems running 738s SEA-HNL non-stop, at 30% less distance than DAL-HNL, with ~sixteen fewer seats. The -7 has considerably longer l...

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by orlandocfi
Thu May 06, 2021 9:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2021
Replies: 2536
Views: 340709

Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2021

You can’t anyway because of the Wright Amendment restrictions. No International flights and all Domestic flights have to be within the lower 48. Interesting I never knew there was still a restriction that they can only fly within the lower 48 from DAL and thought the only restriction was no INTL fl...

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by orlandocfi
Thu May 06, 2021 7:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2021
Replies: 2536
Views: 340709

Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2021

Not sure why but I’m tickled by the idea of a WN 737 flying HNL-DAL. So long as you don't expect it to be bi-directional. There are plenty of diversion points in the last three hours HNL-DAL. On DAL-HNL, not so much. AS had days with problems running 738s SEA-HNL non-stop, at 30% less distance than...

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by orlandocfi
Thu May 06, 2021 7:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2021
Replies: 2536
Views: 340709

Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2021

Just took off. In the air now. Do they just do HNL to DAL to go back to there headquarters or there any reason they are doing this routing ? They did the same thing on the initial ETOPS proving flights. I imagine there are hdq personnel onboard, and possibly FAA personnel from the dallas FSDO. Not ...

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by orlandocfi
Thu May 06, 2021 2:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2021
Replies: 2536
Views: 340709

Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2021

I know it might not happen tell they add a new plane in years but does anyone see WN going into a business or premium class on there planes In a next step up of the airline ? It would have a be a NEW plane with an entirely different galley set up. There isn't a plane, nor a current galley config th...

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by orlandocfi
Wed May 05, 2021 11:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2021
Replies: 2536
Views: 340709

Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2021

Silver1SWA wrote:
737 MAX 8 at HNL
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Beautiful! Glad to see the current max problems didn’t slow ETOPS progress too much.

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by orlandocfi
Wed May 05, 2021 4:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2021
Replies: 2536
Views: 340709

Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2021

Diversify their fleet FINALLY. An HA acquisition would kill their business model. How so? Hawaii ops is just one element of WN business model. And perhaps the WN business model is ready for evolution. Diversify their fleet FINALLY. WN next 10yr plan has them remaining Solo. They even shot down the ...

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by orlandocfi
Tue May 04, 2021 10:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2021
Replies: 2536
Views: 340709

Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2021

KDAL wrote:
Issue is already fixed, no aircraft are grounded.

Also, keep an eye on N8714Q and N8729H ;)


Thanks for the heads up on those! Will be watching on FR24.

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by orlandocfi
Sun May 02, 2021 12:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2021
Replies: 2536
Views: 340709

Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2021

Interesting that Gary mentioned Canada. I don't doubt that eventually it will happen. I'm mostly curious how much capacity they are going to add to Canada and which cities will be serviced. I'd also be interested in how much this will affect places like BWI, MCO, etc. That flightglobal article is f...

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by orlandocfi
Sat May 01, 2021 10:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2021
Replies: 2536
Views: 340709

Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2021

https://www.flightglobal.com/baltimore-airport-plans-five-gate-expansion-for-southwest/128781.article https://www.henselphelps.com/hensel-phelps-completes-construction-baltimore-washington-international-airport-concourse-five-gate-extension/ Interesting that Gary mentioned Canada. I don't doubt tha...

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by orlandocfi
Sat May 01, 2021 12:12 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: East Coast Wind Warnings/Advisories - Diversions, Effects, etc.
Replies: 30
Views: 4166

Re: East Coast Wind Warnings/Advisories - Diversions, Effects, etc.

It’s not unusual for wind in the spring in Northeast. 48 years of flying, I and other pilots have seen many times. BTW, I’m riding in the back of an airline right now into KBDL, winds around 25 knots down 33. Clickbait Many of the people on this forum aren’t pilots so maybe you can bring the ego do...

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by orlandocfi
Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: East Coast Wind Warnings/Advisories - Diversions, Effects, etc.
Replies: 30
Views: 4166

Re: East Coast Wind Warnings/Advisories - Diversions, Effects, etc.

RPA 4889 at DCA go around for wind shear. Go around again. Loss 30 knots wind shear. Both times they attempted Runway 1. First attempt pilot said they were "unable" 33 after a long pause. Not sure why. Do you have to be specifically certified to land 33? Appears they have diverted to ORF,...

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by orlandocfi
Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: East Coast Wind Warnings/Advisories - Diversions, Effects, etc.
Replies: 30
Views: 4166

Re: East Coast Wind Warnings/Advisories - Diversions, Effects, etc.

It’s not unusual for wind in the spring in Northeast. 48 years of flying, I and other pilots have seen many times. BTW, I’m riding in the back of an airline right now into KBDL, winds around 25 knots down 33. Clickbait Many of the people on this forum aren’t pilots so maybe you can bring the ego do...

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by orlandocfi
Fri Apr 30, 2021 1:54 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: AS MAX Routes
Replies: 9
Views: 1390

Re: AS MAX Routes

Sitting here watching all the approaches from the North in Seattle, keeping a lookout on flightradar24 for any Alaska MAX's. Anyone know what routes they are flying? Where do we expect them to fly throughout the rest of the year? BTW, just saw the AS 737 in the UNCF special livery - pretty sharp! P...

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by orlandocfi
Fri Apr 30, 2021 1:18 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: AS MAX Routes
Replies: 9
Views: 1390

Re: AS MAX Routes

Sitting here watching all the approaches from the North in Seattle, keeping a lookout on flightradar24 for any Alaska MAX's. Anyone know what routes they are flying? Where do we expect them to fly throughout the rest of the year? BTW, just saw the AS 737 in the UNCF special livery - pretty sharp! P...

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by orlandocfi
Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2021
Replies: 2536
Views: 340709

Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2021

Right, not saying that it's complete, just that we are getting close to finishing the certification. Especially since WN already has experience with ETOPS. In other news, I haven't seen it here yet, but WN added TPA-IAH Saturday only. Forgive me if that was already brought out. I doubt FAA is incli...

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by orlandocfi
Thu Apr 29, 2021 11:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2021
Replies: 2536
Views: 340709

Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2021

I feel like this is pointing towards the certification did this happen on the 800s before they were handed the etops certification or after ? No this does not mean this at all. As part of the certification process the maintenance of the ETOPS specified aircraft is also monitored prior to approval. ...

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by orlandocfi
Wed Apr 28, 2021 8:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why WN does not fly to Canada --
Replies: 97
Views: 15768

Re: Why WN does not fly to Canada --

With increased ULCC competition in Canada, I think the opportunity for WN to enter the Canadian market in any significant capacity has already come and gone. WN has placed a lot of eggs in the west coast US/Hawaii basket and really needs to focus on making that work.

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by orlandocfi
Tue Apr 27, 2021 5:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2021
Replies: 2536
Views: 340709

Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2021

Thank you. You are right. Service has been reduced from daily to Sa and Su only. SAT-FLL was reduced to Weekend only service with a bunch of other markets since last Fall because of the pandemic and lack of cuisine ship traffic. But if you listen to the B6 fans they will swear WN is losing to B6 an...

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by orlandocfi
Sun Apr 25, 2021 3:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska Airlines Fleet/Network Thread - 2021
Replies: 1491
Views: 194418

Re: Horizon starting ANC-PDX?

I notice the Anchorage Daily News changed the headline of the article from: Alaska Airlines route changes are bad news for pilots, passengers to Pilot perspectives on Alaska Airlines’ route changes They must have got blowback from one of their major advertisers. One can question the wisdom of publi...

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by orlandocfi
Sun Apr 25, 2021 12:25 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska Airlines Fleet/Network Thread - 2021
Replies: 1491
Views: 194418

Re: Horizon starting ANC-PDX?

Cubsrule wrote:
flight152 wrote:
Cubsrule wrote:
What does AS pilots’ scope protection look like?

There is none to speak of.


Why is that anyone‘a fault but the union’s?


Agreed. And the first rule of negotiations is to never do it in public. I’m not sure what this pilot is trying to accomplish but this isn’t a winning strategy.

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by orlandocfi
Fri Apr 23, 2021 12:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest post Q1 2021 - profit!
Replies: 34
Views: 4230

Re: Southwest post Q1 2021 - profit!

That’s not a profit. It’s a ridiculous and deceptive spin. Claiming a profit due to PSP monies is like saying I’m rich because I took a $1,000,000 cash advance. Sour grapes? As stated earlier in the thread, all airlines will be reporting their financials including and excluding govt assistance. Eit...

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by orlandocfi
Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:45 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Driving record impact on pilot background check
Replies: 13
Views: 2714

Re: Update to Post

Your answers on applications need to match what appears on your driving record. I’m sure you’re provided a space to briefly explain whatever infraction occurred. Most airlines apply filters to their applicant criteria so a negative driving record may exclude you from the interview processes of some ...

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by orlandocfi
Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2021
Replies: 2536
Views: 340709

Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2021

WN does not have max ETOPS certification yet. The revisions to manuals and logbooks are a preliminary step to final certification. Proving runs involve operational aspects in addition to actually flying the plane to Hawaii, which hasn’t happened yet. But I imagine the earnings call could shed light ...

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by orlandocfi
Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Denver Air Connection wins EAS away from Skywest for PIR and ATY
Replies: 98
Views: 10608

Re: Denver Air Connection wins EAS away from Skywest for PIR and ATY

One wonders why a 121 certificate was issued to a 135 operator with such an abysmal safety record. This is your second post clucking about their safety record. Maybe you should post something factual with links, otherwise it looks like you have a personal vendetta. Further, as a presumptive CFI wha...

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by orlandocfi
Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Denver Air Connection wins EAS away from Skywest for PIR and ATY
Replies: 98
Views: 10608

Re: Denver Air Connection wins EAS away from Skywest for PIR and ATY

I believe these will be operated under 121 with their 50 seat ERJs. One wonders why a 121 certificate was issued to a 135 operator with such an abysmal safety record. This is your second post clucking about their safety record. Maybe you should post something factual with links, otherwise it looks ...

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by orlandocfi
Tue Apr 13, 2021 12:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: G-IV over northern Benin right now
Replies: 1
Views: 1362

Re: G-IV over northern Benin right now

I would guess it is some sort of surveillance pattern. It is now flying that pattern back and forth between Niger and Burkina Faso.

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by orlandocfi
Sun Apr 11, 2021 10:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why did Southwest cancel the rest of their MIA flights tonight (11 Apr)?
Replies: 37
Views: 7453

Re: Why did Southwest cancel the rest of their MIA flights tonight (11 Apr)?

Looks like TPA and MCO are both starting to pick up diversions from RSW, FLL, and MIA. It does look like MIA at least is starting to open back up. AA 700 is on final I think AAL700 was the last one to get in. MIA is currently getting pounded. It’s been very interesting watching the planes on FR24 a...

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by orlandocfi
Sun Apr 11, 2021 8:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why did Southwest cancel the rest of their MIA flights tonight (11 Apr)?
Replies: 37
Views: 7453

Re: Why did Southwest cancel the rest of their MIA flights tonight (11 Apr)?

If you look at the shape and breadth of the weather affecting florida today, you can probably get a better idea why flights are getting canceled. I feel like WN is often more proactive with cancellations in order to facilitate a quick recovery, while other airlines may be reactive. But today’s weath...

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by orlandocfi
Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WN 737MAX at FLL?
Replies: 10
Views: 2657

Re: WN 737MAX at FLL?

How far could WN make it into South America if they decide to give it a go from FLL? BSB? You're dreaming. WN couldn't even make MEX work from any U.S. origin. MEX, the fifth highest passenger volume international destination airport from the U.S., ahead of FRA and NRT. Anything in Brazil would be ...

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by orlandocfi
Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WN 737MAX at FLL?
Replies: 10
Views: 2657

Re: WN 737MAX at FLL?

TTailedTiger wrote:
How far could WN make it into South America if they decide to give it a go from FLL? BSB?


I think GOL was running their max MCO-BSB prior to the grounding, so FLL-BSB would surely be possible for WN. With a stop in SJU, even EZE is possible.

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by orlandocfi
Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WN - A220 vs MAX "Never A Competition"
Replies: 101
Views: 15939

Re: WN - A220 vs MAX "Never A Competition"

WN likes to tout that it "chooses" to do something because of reasons (X-Y-Z) but the fact of the matter is, WN is so behind in terms of technology and industry integration that the reality is, it CAN'T utilize other options. It's incapable; just like it was incapable of using carts on th...

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by orlandocfi
Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Airlines .. 2,500 new pilot slots reserved for women or people of color
Replies: 48
Views: 6416

Re: United Airlines .. 2,500 new pilot slots reserved for women or people of color

The US military should lead the charge on this, considering a large chunk of pilots come from the military.

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by orlandocfi
Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest Orders 100 MAX + 155 Options
Replies: 197
Views: 30361

Re: Southwest Orders 100 MAX + 155 Options

There's a reason that the people on this site don't run airlines. I disagree, there's a lot more nuance and insight on this forum than you'd find in many airline boardrooms. When fleet sizes are in the hundreds, tying your choices to one company is myopic and potentially fatal to operations. And, a...

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by orlandocfi
Thu Mar 25, 2021 5:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2021
Replies: 2536
Views: 340709

Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2021

ericm2031 wrote:
How can you recall if you never furloughed? Are they just not allowing anymore leaves?


It’s early recall from a paid leave of absence. There was always a chance of early recalls, but I don’t think anyone expected it to happen this soon.

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by orlandocfi
Thu Mar 25, 2021 12:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2021
Replies: 2536
Views: 340709

Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2021

The moment the ink was dry on the ExTO agreement we all knew the intention was there. The point is pilots are saying recalls have been made. Sad to think a company that was hellbent on concessions and/or furloughs can't make an OVERWHELMING announcement that they can recall employees. LOL well I wo...

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by orlandocfi
Thu Mar 25, 2021 12:01 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2021
Replies: 2536
Views: 340709

Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2021

av8tiongeek wrote:
Apparently, WN has recalled approximately 200 pilots that will begin training in June. Can anyone confirm this?


They have announced their intention to do so, but no official recalls have been made.

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by orlandocfi
Tue Mar 16, 2021 1:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing nears 737 MAX order from Southwest worth billions
Replies: 239
Views: 44001

Re: Boeing nears 737 MAX order from Southwest worth billions

except that the max7 has plenty of MTOW to accommodate 150 pax and fulls tanks + an extra 3 tons left that can be filled with an ACT and fly even farther , if GOL's max 8 can do 3,282 nmi (which is very close to the brochure range) with 186 pax ,i don't see why the -7 couldn't do it with 150 pax on...

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by orlandocfi
Tue Mar 16, 2021 1:50 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Will Southwest Ever order the Max 9?
Replies: 9
Views: 1594

Re: Will Southwest Ever order the Max 9?

We don’t really have a breakdown of variants in the pending MAX order, but I think the -9 or -10 are within the realm of possibility. WN would have no problem filling up a -10 to Hawaii or on a transcon. I’m looking forward to more details being revealed soon.

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by orlandocfi
Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing nears 737 MAX order from Southwest worth billions
Replies: 239
Views: 44001

Re: Boeing nears 737 MAX order from Southwest worth billions

The MAX 7 has even more range than the B73G, will this come in handy for WN? Like Houston-Hawaii? Per Boeing, the MAX-7 range is 3,850nm With the 3,850nm range, not only is HOU-Hawaii in the picture (HOU-HNL is 3,398nm), but others could also potentially be: MCI-HNL: 3,384nm STL-HNL: 3,588nm MSY-HN...

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by orlandocfi
Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing nears 737 MAX order from Southwest worth billions
Replies: 239
Views: 44001

Re: Boeing nears 737 MAX order from Southwest worth billions

There’s just twenty-something ETOPS -800s that do Hawaii. It’s also a separate pilot bid group. I assume all the -7s and -8s will eventually be ETOPS birds. That would be a waste of money to have all the 7s and 8s as ETOPS airplanes. It is not needed. Tell that to United with their 350+ ETOPS 737 f...

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by orlandocfi
Sun Mar 14, 2021 7:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing nears 737 MAX order from Southwest worth billions
Replies: 239
Views: 44001

Re: Boeing nears 737 MAX order from Southwest worth billions

My opinion. If there was actually a competition between Airbus and Boeing at Southwest. It was between the Max-7\8 and A320 not the A220. A220 would be a dead-end sub fleet for them that would replace the -700s and -7. But they still want a -800 sized plane that wouldn't be available in the A220. D...

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