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by iamlucky13
Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The case for more aircraft production cuts/playing chicken
Replies: 655
Views: 80642

Re: The case for more aircraft production cuts/playing chicken

This isn't A vs. B, some Airlines will consolidate on A, some B, some are just shedding aircraft as fast as the can (Indigo, Alaska, Delta, GoAir, SpiceJet, AirAsia, LATAM, Avianca, AeroMexico). I've yet to hear of any airline not returning leased aircraft, if able. We are looking at, I estimate, 2...

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by iamlucky13
Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Boeing to Consolidate 787 Production in South Carolina
Replies: 320
Views: 56375

Re: Updated: Boeing to Consolidate 787 Production in South Carolina

It is a bad idea to keep your engineering unit separate from production. Airbus, for example, has their engineering for certain components adjacent to the plant where these are assembled. Wing design and manufacturing are done in the UK, fuselage design and assembly are done in Germany, ... but the...

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by iamlucky13
Mon Oct 05, 2020 6:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Boeing to Consolidate 787 Production in South Carolina
Replies: 320
Views: 56375

Re: Updated: Boeing to Consolidate 787 Production in South Carolina

I've noticed articles discussing the impact of the 787 consolidation as anywhere from 900 jobs to 10,000 jobs in Everett (out of ~30,000 total, although perhaps that was the count before the recent layoff of 15% of the Boeing's commercial workforce). The bottom end of the estimates are surprisingly ...

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by iamlucky13
Mon Oct 05, 2020 6:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Boeing to Consolidate 787 Production in South Carolina
Replies: 320
Views: 56375

Re: Updated: Boeing to Consolidate 787 Production in South Carolina

It makes little economic sense for Boeing to move MAX production to Everett considering the money they have already spent to design Renton for high-rate MAX production. The two main buildings are optimized to run three lines at up to (if not beyond) Rate 20 each and their workforce likely lives muc...

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by iamlucky13
Fri Oct 02, 2020 3:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Boeing to Consolidate 787 Production in South Carolina
Replies: 320
Views: 56375

Re: Updated: Boeing to Consolidate 787 Production in South Carolina

I'm not sure what else Washington State could have done. Boeing has had significant tax breaks ($100 million a year is what comes to mind, but don't quote me.) Both the governor's office and union reached out to Boeing during the process and asked what they could do to keep all of the 787 assembly ...

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by iamlucky13
Thu Oct 01, 2020 6:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Boeing to Consolidate 787 Production in South Carolina
Replies: 320
Views: 56375

Re: Updated: Boeing to Consolidate 787 Production in South Carolina

Nope, no new program for Everett soon. 777X or bust. Like I said, not sure why anyone is shocked by the decision, they can't fly the 787-10 parts to Everett and you sure as hell not going to build a new 787-10 facility just for the sake of being Puget Sound proud. Charleston has everything going fo...

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by iamlucky13
Thu Oct 01, 2020 3:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Boeing to Consolidate 787 Production in South Carolina
Replies: 320
Views: 56375

Re: Boeing Considers Closing 787 Production in WA

Jon Ostrower ( https://twitter.com/jonostrower/status/1311679675630985216 ) reports: BREAKING: Boeing officially notifies employees that it will consolidate 787 operations in South Carolina by mid-2021. ... so the deed is done. Seattle Times ( https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/...

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by iamlucky13
Wed Sep 30, 2020 9:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What will the future look like with Boeing at KPAE/Everett?
Replies: 11
Views: 1951

Re: What will the future look like with Boeing at KPAE/Everett?

I don't think the 737 line will move. That would be too disruptive. They could shift some of the P-8 and finishing related work to Everett, but I think that is currently done at Boeing Field, not Renton. Also, isn't Boeing leasing some space at Paine Field for 767 work? Any leased space in the Puget...

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by iamlucky13
Wed Sep 30, 2020 7:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Boeing to Consolidate 787 Production in South Carolina
Replies: 320
Views: 56375

Re: Boeing Considers Closing 787 Production in WA

No, you're not, but I think most of us don't want it to make sense. I do think there is some sense in keeping it in Washington based on the established workforce and proximity to engineering, but it's at best a close call. However, regardless of the best decision for the 787 program, I think the be...

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by iamlucky13
Wed Sep 30, 2020 5:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Boeing to Consolidate 787 Production in South Carolina
Replies: 320
Views: 56375

Re: Boeing Considers Closing 787 Production in WA

Am I the only one who thinks that in this current market that’s the only decision that makes sense? No, you're not, but I think most of us don't want it to make sense. I do think there is some sense in keeping it in Washington based on the established workforce and proximity to engineering, but it'...

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by iamlucky13
Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The case for more aircraft production cuts/playing chicken
Replies: 655
Views: 80642

Re: The case for more aircraft production cuts/playing chicken

Yes, Boeing is in worse shape with 808 MAX ready minus modifications. Or a staggering $40 billion in inventory, hence the staggering -$8 billion stockholders equity. When you put it that way, the $60 billion in debt doesn't sound quite as bad. Granted, some payments are already complete on them, an...

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by iamlucky13
Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The case for more aircraft production cuts/playing chicken
Replies: 655
Views: 80642

Re: The case for more aircraft production cuts/playing chicken

The manufacturers seem to be oblivious to 100’s, or even 1000’s, of aircraft already built and in service with years of economic and physical life remaining. How can that be ignored? Something has to give because the current production path can not be sustained. It’s easy to see these continued hig...

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by iamlucky13
Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The case for more aircraft production cuts/playing chicken
Replies: 655
Views: 80642

Re: The case for more aircraft production cuts/playing chicken

One has to wonder which production line makes profit at what rate of production. In theory both manufacturers have to cut down to the point where there is still a small profit possible. Boeing indicated in the 2Q, 2020 earnings call that they believe they can be profitable at their rate target for ...

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by iamlucky13
Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The case for more aircraft production cuts/playing chicken
Replies: 655
Views: 80642

Re: The case for more aircraft production cuts/playing chicken

I'm afraid, in a few months, we'll hear about the plans. I've already posted links on Raytheon Technologies cutting the workforce. GE is also cutting 13,000: https://wolfstreet.com/2020/09/02/the-second-wave-of-layoffs-is-here-now-hitting-well-paid-jobs/ We already did hear the plans, at least the ...

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by iamlucky13
Fri Sep 18, 2020 12:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q3 2020
Replies: 716
Views: 117795

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q3 2020

Explanation shouldn't really be needed, but here goes anyway: The failure to install a 3rd AoA probe and/or synthetic AoA sensor. The failure to install EICAS. The half-arsed attempt to run a comparison between two AoA sensors without having a 3rd sensor to pass final verdict. Running it all throug...

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by iamlucky13
Fri Sep 18, 2020 12:16 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020
Replies: 1835
Views: 369465

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

June/July are about the only time of year when it's not foggy around Seattle/Puget Sound mid-day, I thought. I've long wondered why Boeing doesn't move more of their testing elsewhere (be it Moses lake or something like VCV). Yes, first flight still has to happen where they build it, of course.... ...

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by iamlucky13
Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Impact on airlines from growing corporate sustainability
Replies: 17
Views: 1847

Re: Impact on airlines from growing corporate sustainability

To reiterate - Offsetting CANNOT be used by PwC to reduce their carbon emissions. Just to make sure it is clear, as I think it is possible to misread if not careful: Offsets are not the way they plan to achieve the 50% actual reduction they state they are planning. They indicate the same 50% ratio ...

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by iamlucky13
Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The case for more aircraft production cuts/playing chicken
Replies: 655
Views: 80642

Re: The case for more aircraft production cuts/playing chicken

What if Covid is a non-issue by March 2021 and everyone wants to start flying? I talk to allot of people who want to start traveling again. That can't be an isolated sentiment. It is very far from an isolated sentiment, but forecasts since the outbreak became serious outside of China have consisten...

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by iamlucky13
Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The case for more aircraft production cuts/playing chicken
Replies: 655
Views: 80642

Re: The case for more aircraft production cuts/playing chicken

My entire premise above, by the way, is partially biased against being willing to believe as many of the people I know in aerospace will be laid off as would be dictated by a 60% production rate cut. I work in that industry. I do not want the layoffs. Boeing and Airbus are running through cash too ...

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by iamlucky13
Tue Sep 15, 2020 6:16 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The case for more aircraft production cuts/playing chicken
Replies: 655
Views: 80642

Re: The case for more aircraft production cuts/playing chicken

Now I advocate an A320 further production cut and a small ramp up in MAX production Let's use the articles you posted to try to quantify these and the other models a little better. The 2nd Aviation Week article you linked to forecasts a little over 1300 deliveries for 2021, mixed at 71% narrowbodie...

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by iamlucky13
Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The case for more aircraft production cuts/playing chicken
Replies: 655
Views: 80642

Re: The case for more aircraft production cuts/playing chicken

Now I advocate an A320 further production cut and a small ramp up in MAX production Let's use the articles you posted to try to quantify these and the other models a little better. The 2nd Aviation Week article you linked to forecasts a little over 1300 deliveries for 2021, mixed at 71% narrowbodie...

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by iamlucky13
Fri Sep 11, 2020 10:31 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: face mask policies violate state mandates
Replies: 31
Views: 2660

Re: face mask policies violate state mandates

The railroad labor act over rules state law. As soon as you are on airport property, Federal law has priority. This is to keep a thousand rules from making interstate transit too complicated. Lightsaber No it doesnt. Most of airport property in the US is under the jurisdiction of city/county/state ...

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by iamlucky13
Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest CEO Kelly - If Things Don’t Improve, This Just Can’t Continue”
Replies: 69
Views: 14350

Re: Southwest CEO Kelly - If Things Don’t Improve, This Just Can’t Continue”

One of the sources I get information from (who is neither Fox or conservative) stated today that the mortality has dropped to something like 0.002% in the U.S.. That figure can't be right. With 800 deaths per day still being reported in the US, 0.002% would mean 40 million cases per day - the entir...

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by iamlucky13
Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:25 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing Removes 8 x 787 From Service over Structural Issues
Replies: 182
Views: 40787

Re: Boeing Removes 8 x 787 From Service over Structural Issues

Dominic Gates ( https://twitter.com/dominicgates/status/1303395951948652544 ) says they've only delivered 13 while producing 50 or so since March. Thank god for small favors, I guess. Who cares about the few short term deliveries if like the rear fuselage issue, the HTP issue will require the inspe...

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by iamlucky13
Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: When Will The Boeing Woes Cease?
Replies: 4
Views: 1078

Re: When Will The Boeing Woes Cease?

What was that quote about clowns and monkeys?... My insulting comments about Boeing become more and more warranted. My sympathy to the engineers and mechanics. The quote was calling the engineers clowns. To suggest that quote has current relevance and then pretend to sympathize is farcical. I recom...

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by iamlucky13
Wed Sep 02, 2020 7:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The case for more aircraft production cuts/playing chicken
Replies: 655
Views: 80642

Re: The case for more aircraft production cuts

The editorial seems to have a mistaken premise: Across the industry, leading CEOs have defined “normal” as 2019. But a closer look at earlier market forecasts and planned production rates shows that 2019 is the wrong benchmark. Production rates are not the benchmark the manufacturers are discussing....

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by iamlucky13
Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing Removes 8 x 787 From Service over Structural Issues
Replies: 182
Views: 40787

Re: Boeing Removes 8 x 787 From Service over Structural Issues

I'll try to steer us back on topic. Per the article, this sounds like a situation where 2 discrepant parts were cleared individually. Each discrepancy was "OK", but not the combined impact. Now I purposely put OK in quotes above because, obviously, these parts were not. My reasoning: when...

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by iamlucky13
Tue Sep 01, 2020 4:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing seeks to further boost 788 Commonality to Boost Sales
Replies: 164
Views: 23113

Re: Boeing seeks to further boost 788 Commonality to Boost Sales

This is a really good question, one deserving of a lot more thought and commentary than Leeham has given this: Why hasn’t this been done already? With a production of a 787-8 every two months, the investment of revising the thousands of documents and procedures to bring the 787-8 up to the -9/-10 b...

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by iamlucky13
Mon Aug 31, 2020 6:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing Removes 8 x 787 From Service over Structural Issues
Replies: 182
Views: 40787

Re: Boeing Removes 8 x 787 From Service over Structural Issues

Yes, aircraft are largely hand built. Most planes are flying around with at least one manufacturing “defect” but if it is within allowed tolerances nobody cares. Nobody is building perfectly reproducible fuselages no matter what material it is made from or who is doing it. Put some emphasis on &quo...

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by iamlucky13
Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing Removes 8 x 787 From Service over Structural Issues
Replies: 182
Views: 40787

Re: Boeing Removes 8 x 787 From Service over Structural Issues

The fact we are even talking about it here on A.net is an indicator that that specific QA process at Boeing works. Shouldn't Boeing's Q&A have found these issues at the time of manufacture, not years later? Everything stated so far indicates they were identified at the time of manufacture. The ...

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by iamlucky13
Fri Aug 28, 2020 11:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PAE (Everett) Commercial Passenger Service News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 380
Views: 58332

Re: Update on PAE (Everett) Commercial Passenger Service

I came to post one update, but it seems worth adding a few more, since this thread has been inactive for a while. April 14, 2020 - Paine Field received a disproportionately small amount of aid directed to airports by the CARES act, because it was calculated based on 2018 passenger volumes, when the ...

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by iamlucky13
Thu Aug 27, 2020 10:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Potentially groundbreaking Celera 500L bizaircraft prototype unveiled
Replies: 72
Views: 9396

Re: Potentially groundbreaking Celera 500L bizjet prototype unveiled

Looking at those windows, I'm going to assume the pilot likely has a forward looking camera to assist with landing It doesn't sound to me like they're targeting the stereotypical business jet operator, who is concern about ramp appeal, but air taxi operators. That would presumably reduce the liabil...

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by iamlucky13
Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Potentially groundbreaking Celera 500L bizaircraft prototype unveiled
Replies: 72
Views: 9396

Re: Potentially groundbreaking Celera 500L bizjet prototype unveiled

Looking at those windows, I'm going to assume the pilot likely has a forward looking camera to assist with landing It doesn't sound to me like they're targeting the stereotypical business jet operator, who is concern about ramp appeal, but air taxi operators. That would presumably reduce the liabili...

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by iamlucky13
Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Boeing to Consolidate 787 Production in South Carolina
Replies: 320
Views: 56375

Re: Boeing Considers Closing 787 Production in WA

It was brought up many times that it is not how the system works these days. Engineers are seen as a commodity these days. No long career with the company, they are hired per project and fired as project stages wind down. There is nothing to retain. Nothing? So every engineer fired, start all over ...

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by iamlucky13
Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Boeing to Consolidate 787 Production in South Carolina
Replies: 320
Views: 56375

Re: Boeing Considers Closing 787 Production in WA

Could the new 777X-line in Everett be converted to build both 777X and 787 at high pace? Would this make sense and save any money? (Thinking about future 787 high demand scenarios where maximum production rate at only one site might be needed) Effectively no. This would not actually provide much if...

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by iamlucky13
Wed Aug 26, 2020 2:35 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Boeing to Consolidate 787 Production in South Carolina
Replies: 320
Views: 56375

Re: Boeing Considers Closing 787 Production in WA

Nah they can since -10 is wholly made at CHS and cannot be flown to Paine. That will be the study outcome, do it all at CHS. This also strikes me as the most likely scenario, but another possibility is they expect demand to ultimately recover beyond what Charleston can produce with the existing fac...

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by iamlucky13
Fri Aug 21, 2020 4:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020
Replies: 1835
Views: 369465

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

I believe most of those hours have been productive. In another life I have seen useless flights performed during the flight test campaign. I am not going to go into specifics. They have an established test plan to follow, and a cash flow crisis to manage. I see no productive reason to speculate tha...

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by iamlucky13
Fri Aug 21, 2020 12:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020
Replies: 1835
Views: 369465

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

The flight test fleet has logged more than 370 hours so far. Whether those hours have been productive is another question. They must have been unless we would’ve still been at initial airworthiness and we won’t have been able to conduct auto landing I believe most of those hours have been productiv...

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by iamlucky13
Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020
Replies: 1835
Views: 369465

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

So all speculation is that the delay to 2022 is all about certification and moving goal post by the regulators and nothing to do with the required redesign that must also be tested and certified? The 2022 date is entirely customer driven at this point. Flight certification is going smoothly with th...

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by iamlucky13
Fri Aug 07, 2020 10:43 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Virgin Galactic unveils Mach 3 Aircraft design
Replies: 57
Views: 8614

Re: Virgin Galactic unveils Mach 3 Aircraft design

As an aviation enthusiast, I wish I could totally get on board this Galactic concept plane. However, the Universalism of the Boom Overture concept is far more in tune with my values, than the media self promoting values of Branson’s Galactic concept. Did Boeing just not recently come up with a very...

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by iamlucky13
Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing Confirms 747 Production Will End in 2022, Delays 777X Entry to 2022, Reduces 787/777/777X Production
Replies: 177
Views: 29959

Re: Boeing Confirms 747 Production Will End in 2022, Delays 777X Entry to 2022, Reduces 787/777/777X Production

With what money? ⋅  Boeing just lost $2.4B in one quarter! ⋅  737 was at rate 43 heading for 50 before MCAS, now they're hoping to be at rate 31 in early 2022 ⋅  737 still has costs with performing ADs on stored aircraft, remaining RTS efforts, MAX-7 EIS, MAX-10 EIS &s...

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by iamlucky13
Wed Jul 29, 2020 6:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Reuters: Boeing considering 757-Plus and 767-X
Replies: 811
Views: 157296

Re: Reuters: Boeing considering 757-Plus and 767-X

I guess FedEx and UPS are literally waiting for the ax to fall on the 767-300F before they commit to something new. I'm also interested in the term "cannot be sold" - does that mean "no more orders taken" or "no more deliveries possible"? If the former, both could just...

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by iamlucky13
Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: U.S. To Issue Emissions Rules For Commercial Aircraft
Replies: 18
Views: 3407

Re: U.S. To Issue Emissions Rules For Commercial Aircrafts

I think the airlines are facing worse issues than 'global warming'. Think, furloughs, layoffs, Chap. 11, iconic fleet retirements (tho iconic fleet retirements might affect us geeks more.), money losses, order cancellations, etc. I think these rules need to be made less strict, because airlines nee...

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by iamlucky13
Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: U.S. To Issue Emissions Rules For Commercial Aircraft
Replies: 18
Views: 3407

Re: U.S. To Issue Emissions Rules For Commercial Aircrafts

The proposed rule is now up on the EPA website: https://www.epa.gov/regulations-emissions-vehicles-and-engines/notice-proposed-rulemaking-control-air-pollution As other posters noted, it adopts the ICAO 2017 standard. A few noteworthy points: ⋅  Applies to jets above 5700kg and propeller-d...

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by iamlucky13
Fri Jul 17, 2020 5:39 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q3 2020
Replies: 716
Views: 117795

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q3 2020

You're not making clear what your point is. We know there was a coincidence of circumstances lining up to lead to the crashes despite multiple layers of safety. That is the case with most crashes and not in question here. The words and the actions are consistent, but based on flawed information. Af...

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by iamlucky13
Fri Jul 17, 2020 5:34 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q3 2020
Replies: 716
Views: 117795

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q3 2020

The words and the actions are consistent, but based on flawed information. After the first crash, Boeing and the regulators believed the plane could be operated safely despite the issue if crews were more explicitly aware there could be a need to follow a runaway stabilizer procedure as an interim ...

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by iamlucky13
Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q3 2020
Replies: 716
Views: 117795

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q3 2020

Boeing didn't ground the plane before the 2nd crash. In Nov 2018 shortly after the 1st crash, in a meeting with American Airlines Pilots Union pilots, Boeing refused to ground the plane, yet they knew there was a problem: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/14/business/boeing-737-max-ethiopian-plane-cr...

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by iamlucky13
Tue Jul 14, 2020 6:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q3 2020
Replies: 716
Views: 117795

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q3 2020

Strange I was under the impression that every aviation authority around the World grounded it not the OEM Boeing didn't ground the plane before the 2nd crash. In Nov 2018 shortly after the 1st crash, in a meeting with American Airlines Pilots Union pilots, Boeing refused to ground the plane, yet th...

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by iamlucky13
Mon Jul 13, 2020 6:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates Network & Fleet discussion 2020
Replies: 1753
Views: 51784

Re: Emirates: 777X further delayed until 2022, considering to convert more orders to 787

I guess the worry is how many airlines have publicly spoken about reducing, converting or deferring orders, when EK is having second thoughts you have to think there's trouble brewing, but QR and EY have uncertain futures as well, as does CX, the most secure orders I think are SQ, NH and BA, but LH...

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by iamlucky13
Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020
Replies: 1835
Views: 369465

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

oh yeah, its definitely slow, its been 6 months and we are only at 250 hours really, ideally they'd probably like to go faster so they can start reaping the benefits of their investment, but then if their customers are really pressuring them to slow down and push delivery back, i guess it makes sen...

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