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by Cointrin330
Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Future of AUS/BNA/RDU
Replies: 133
Views: 13039

Re: The Future of AUS/BNA/RDU

Your assessment on RDU is not entirely accurate. DL, has, in fact, at least until yesterday's announcements and schedule changes, been the dominant airline there for the last few years and had built up a rather impressive focus city. It is a high yielding, business market, but it can't escape COVID...

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by Cointrin330
Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Future of AUS/BNA/RDU
Replies: 133
Views: 13039

Re: The Future of AUS/BNA/RDU

AUS, BNA and RDU have to be the most interesting mid-sized airports in the United States right now. They were pre-COVID and they will continue to be going forward given the ongoing economic and demographic trends. All three are rapidly growing markets with a good mixture of tourism and business, an...

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by Cointrin330
Wed Dec 16, 2020 5:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated ITA/Alitalia News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 2009
Views: 479610

Re: Alitalia News and Discussion Thread

If the ALITALIA employees do not drop their general rudeness and laziness then any new iteration will fail. Take a look at IBERIA and note the differences in the old and new versions, especially at the staff levels. No matter what I believe should keep the ALITALIA brand! Just a personal opinion. T...

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by Cointrin330
Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:58 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Likelihood of a Battleship Gray Retro Livery
Replies: 17
Views: 2492

Re: Likelihood of a Battleship Gray Retro Livery

The battleship grey livery was striking and bold when it was first revealed in 1993, but it did not age well. Apart from the dark paint fading (and peeling). it felt stuffy and got dated very quickly. The "rising" livery that followed it was a lot better, particularly the tails, and what w...

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by Cointrin330
Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated ITA/Alitalia News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 2009
Views: 479610

Re: Alitalia News and Discussion Thread

The restructured Alitalia plans to assume operations next April 2021 with 51 planes, EUR3.0 billion in capital, and about 5,000 employees. The fleet will consist of five E190s, 40 A319s and A320s, six B777. The goal is to double the number of aircraft by 2026. https://www.air-journal.fr/2020-12-11-...

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by Cointrin330
Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:49 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Olympic Airways 747s at JFK.
Replies: 19
Views: 3324

Re: Olympic Airways 747s at JFK.

This photo was taken from the top of the parking garage above the Pan Am Worldport. While it may have departed from the "old American Airlines Terminal" countless planes have passed this spot, one certainly can't draw that conclusion from this photo alone. I wasn't suggesting the photo wa...

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by Cointrin330
Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 12/15/2020:QR Into JFKMXP!;DL Drops CVG-BDL/CLT/MCI/STL,RDU-AUS/CLE/CMH/PIT,LAX-OMA/SAN,INDMCO,BDLCLE;AA Feb
Replies: 94
Views: 12295

Re: OAG Changes 12/15/2020:QR Into JFKMXP!;DL Drops CVG-BDL/CLT/MCI/STL,RDU-AUS/CLE/CMH/PIT,LAX-OMA/SAN,INDMCO,BDLCLE;AA

If anything, SAN is an airport with a lot of O&D on its own that should justify more international and domestic services. LAX is not exactly a great airport to connect at. Don't hold your breath for DL to operate SAN-SYD, SAN-HND, SAN-PVG, or SAN-ICN. Not gonna happen....SAN is not set up for t...

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by Cointrin330
Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:26 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Olympic Airways 747s at JFK.
Replies: 19
Views: 3324

Re: Olympic Airways 747s at JFK.

Found this in a google search. Definitely JFK: https://www.airhistory.net/photo/147158/SX-OAB Probably a lot more out there in internet ether. That is definitely JFK and looks like SX-OAB is taxiing out to the runway from the old American Airlines Terminal where it operated from at the time. I neve...

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by Cointrin330
Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Eastern Airlines Adds CNF-BOS/JFK/MIA
Replies: 18
Views: 5034

Re: Eastern Airlines Adds CNF-BOS/JFK/MIA

Hopefully they'll be hauling cargo to compensate for the low yield, VFR that will be flying these routes. The non core Brazil market has been tried many times by the US3 and doesn't seem to work. I wouldn't put any money on these routes, or the reincarnated EA, making these work.

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by Cointrin330
Tue Dec 15, 2020 3:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 12/15/2020:QR Into JFKMXP!;DL Drops CVG-BDL/CLT/MCI/STL,RDU-AUS/CLE/CMH/PIT,LAX-OMA/SAN,INDMCO,BDLCLE;AA Feb
Replies: 94
Views: 12295

Re: OAG Changes 12/15/2020:QR Into JFKMXP!;DL Drops CVG-BDL/CLT/MCI/STL,RDU-AUS/CLE/CMH/PIT,LAX-OMA/SAN,INDMCO,BDLCLE;AA

I was able to get the schedule. Is it possible it was mistakenly loaded? They even have the daylight savings time split loaded. Lot of detail for an error. Block time is also accurate. U.S. carriers are going to have a cow. Perhaps it is a freighter misfiled as a passenger flight? QR is flying A350...

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by Cointrin330
Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA Plans to Return to JFK in 2021
Replies: 658
Views: 118403

Re: UA Plans to Return to JFK in 2021

United flew the Buenos Aires abd São Paulo/ Rio flights right up until 9/11. I flew those flights many times, with a flight to Buenos Aires and back in July 2001. São Paulo was still there. Then after 9/11 they cut the nonstops and started a jfk-Miami flight that fed the South American flights. The...

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by Cointrin330
Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA Plans to Return to JFK in 2021
Replies: 658
Views: 118403

Re: UA Plans to Return to JFK in 2021

Yeah- at most, United had 3 flights to London, 6 or 7 to SFO, 6 or 7 to LAX, 1 to São Paulo/Rio, 1 to Buenos Aires, 1 to Seattle, 1 to Narita, and let’s say 5 or 6 to Dulles. So like 27? Maybe 28 departures? From time to time they had San Juan and maybe now and then Chicago. But that’s it. Not a hu...

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by Cointrin330
Sun Dec 13, 2020 1:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Raleigh/Durham Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 125
Views: 18555

Re: Raleigh/Durham Aviation Thread - 2020

I think the AA service to LHR and the DL flight to CDG will return, if not in 2021 which seems very unlikely, in 2022.

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by Cointrin330
Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:57 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: JFK/EWR layout proposal concept?
Replies: 18
Views: 2667

Re: JFK/EWR layout proposal concept?

As JFK, LGA and EWR prepare to undergo renovation. I´ve thought of a possible layout plan for JFK and EWR that could work once the mega-terminals are built: JFK: Terminal 1: Star Alliance Terminal 4A: Delta & Skyteam partners Terminal 4B: Non-Alliance members Terminal 5: JetBlue Terminal 8: AA ...

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by Cointrin330
Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:20 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Olympic Airways 747s at JFK.
Replies: 19
Views: 3324

Re: Olympic Airways 747s at JFK.

Found this in a google search. Definitely JFK: https://www.airhistory.net/photo/147158/SX-OAB Probably a lot more out there in internet ether. That is definitely JFK and looks like SX-OAB is taxiing out to the runway from the old American Airlines Terminal where it operated from at the time. I neve...

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by Cointrin330
Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qatar Airways News and Discussion Thread - 2020
Replies: 493
Views: 30180

Re: Qatar Airways Announces DOH-SEA + Alaska Airlines Partnership

If global aviation can recover starting later in 2021 I have a feeling OW will continue to grow at SEA with AS a member now, QR and AA seemingly focused on both tapping into the AS network and growing their portfolio of flights there. It would not surprise if AA were to take over the JL service to ...

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by Cointrin330
Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qatar Airways News and Discussion Thread - 2020
Replies: 493
Views: 30180

Re: Qatar Airways Announces DOH-SEA + Alaska Airlines Partnership

If global aviation can recover starting later in 2021 I have a feeling OW will continue to grow at SEA with AS a member now, QR and AA seemingly focused on both tapping into the AS network and growing their portfolio of flights there. It would not surprise if AA were to take over the JL service to ...

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by Cointrin330
Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qatar Airways News and Discussion Thread - 2020
Replies: 493
Views: 30180

Re: Qatar Airways Announces DOH-SEA + Alaska Airlines Partnership

AA should shelve plans for the SEA-BLR and focus on an extensive partnership with QR While I think the flight will probably get cancelled, I think AA needs to figure out its nonstop strategy to India. The market is shifting and connecting in DOH or DXB or where ever in the ME is not where a lot of ...

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by Cointrin330
Sat Dec 12, 2020 1:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qatar Airways News and Discussion Thread - 2020
Replies: 493
Views: 30180

Re: Qatar Airways Announces DOH-SEA + Alaska Airlines Partnership

If global aviation can recover starting later in 2021 I have a feeling OW will continue to grow at SEA with AS a member now, QR and AA seemingly focused on both tapping into the AS network and growing their portfolio of flights there. It would not surprise if AA were to take over the JL service to T...

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by Cointrin330
Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:01 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: When will Heathrow go back to using all 4 terminals?
Replies: 29
Views: 5806

Re: When will Heathrow go back to using all 4 terminals?

Regarding T5 and AA and QR both now operating from there, with AA in particular operating a much reduced schedule since the pandemic began, will it operationally be feasible for AA to operate from T5 permanently once the schedules ramp back up to what they would normally be, whenever that is (4 x da...

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by Cointrin330
Sat Dec 12, 2020 11:57 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Olympic Airways 747s at JFK.
Replies: 19
Views: 3324

Re: Olympic Airways 747s at JFK.

Olympic operated at Terminal 1 before it ended TATL services, and I recall seeing one of their 747s parked there in 1999 on arrival from London, where I lived at the time, on a VS flight (VS moved from the old IAB to Terminal 1 shortly after T1 opened in 1998). Believe OA retired all 747s by Q4 1999...

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by Cointrin330
Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JetBlue Network Thread - 2020
Replies: 2899
Views: 330567

Re: jetBlue to Miami?

All the airlines are spitballing in an effort to generate revenue on domestic routes, as the ones that have international networks, (or aspirations to have them) are finding themselves clubbed at the knees between COVID19, low demand, dead business travel, lockdowns and travel restrictions that are...

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by Cointrin330
Fri Dec 11, 2020 6:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA Fleet Updates - 2020
Replies: 1688
Views: 227493

Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

With the 321neoXLR coming online at AA in 2023, I don't see need for the 321T to remain in the subfleet. If the XLRs get the intl configuration of all-aisle-access J seats, and maybe even a 12-seat premium economy cabin, then they can be rotated into the JFK-LAX/SFO routes along with an occasional ...

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by Cointrin330
Fri Dec 11, 2020 4:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JetBlue Network Thread - 2020
Replies: 2899
Views: 330567

Re: jetBlue to Miami?

All the airlines are spitballing in an effort to generate revenue on domestic routes, as the ones that have international networks, (or aspirations to have them) are finding themselves clubbed at the knees between COVID19, low demand, dead business travel, lockdowns and travel restrictions that aren...

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by Cointrin330
Fri Dec 11, 2020 1:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aer Lingus looking to start transatlantic from MAN
Replies: 319
Views: 60763

Re: Aer Lingus looking to start transatlantic from MAN

It was incredibly successful for TCX. As has been mentioned numerous times since their demise, the airline was the profitable part of the company and long haul was performing well. There were a couple of routes that came and went BOS and SFO spring to mind. But as is the case with MAN even in short...

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by Cointrin330
Thu Dec 10, 2020 8:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aer Lingus looking to start transatlantic from MAN
Replies: 319
Views: 60763

Re: Aer Lingus looking to start transatlantic from MAN

Has MAN-US ever really been successful for airlines that have invested in that type of operation? I get that EI needs to find a place to allocate aircraft that would otherwise have been focused around SNN and that IAG is looking for lower cost ways to boost its share of the market and compete (at M...

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by Cointrin330
Thu Dec 10, 2020 7:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aer Lingus looking to start transatlantic from MAN
Replies: 319
Views: 60763

Re: Aer Lingus looking to start transatlantic from MAN

Has MAN-US ever really been successful for airlines that have invested in that type of operation? I get that EI needs to find a place to allocate aircraft that would otherwise have been focused around SNN and that IAG is looking for lower cost ways to boost its share of the market and compete (at MA...

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by Cointrin330
Wed Dec 09, 2020 3:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am shuts down 29 years ago today [04DEC].
Replies: 156
Views: 13863

Re: Pan Am shuts down 29 years ago today [04DEC].

Pretty sure PA 103 was what really crushed any hopes of PA making it. I think most of us agree that the National deal was pretty awful. I always wondered what the best merger combo would have been good for Pan Am? Maybe US Air or Republic? As for some saying the airline was nothing but a business o...

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by Cointrin330
Wed Dec 09, 2020 1:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 12/8/2020:Q1 Takedown AA/BA/DL/G4/NK/UA;UA Adds ORD-RDM
Replies: 45
Views: 13087

Re: OAG Changes 12/8/2020:Q1 Takedown AA/BA/DL/G4/NK/UA;UA Adds ORD-RDM

It's either that or the Federal Government will need to partially or fully nationalize the airlines similar to what happened to GM during the financial crisis in 2008. After that, I'd suspect forced consolidation, like financial institutions were subjected to in 2008/9, is next. The airline industr...

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by Cointrin330
Wed Dec 09, 2020 1:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: HA announces OGG-LGB, ONT-HNL, AUS-HNL, MCO-HNL
Replies: 202
Views: 26460

Re: HA announces OGG-LGB, ONT-HNL, AUS-HNL, MCO-HNL

Is there an actual market for Honolulu-Orlando nonstop? This one is really strange. Agreed 100%. If they wanted to shoot for something on the east coast EWR/IAD would have made more sense. Both have UA feed too. EWR and IAD already have a nonstop to Hawaii (whenever they resume anyway). That's prob...

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by Cointrin330
Tue Dec 08, 2020 8:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 12/8/2020:Q1 Takedown AA/BA/DL/G4/NK/UA;UA Adds ORD-RDM
Replies: 45
Views: 13087

Re: OAG Changes 12/8/2020:Q1 Takedown AA/BA/DL/G4/NK/UA;UA Adds ORD-RDM

I can’t speak for other airlines… I can only speak for my own. Internally, something snapped last week. They are very, very concerned and are openly discussing that. I am imagine that is going on industry-wide in the US at present. Every number you look at is very ugly. I've got to imagine a wave o...

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by Cointrin330
Tue Dec 08, 2020 5:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Network Thread - 2020
Replies: 738
Views: 105096

Re: DL ATL-GIG and JFK-GRU: Chance of restarting?

Mexico is bigger and much closer where a 737 or A320 can do all flights so frequency is the key, tourism is huge to Cancun. To Brazil, the main two cities are in the Southeast of the country requiring long haul widebody planes so only routes from hubs or big cities work and most flights are overnig...

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by Cointrin330
Tue Dec 08, 2020 4:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020
Replies: 2786
Views: 335242

Re: AA 777 now going to CLT

Yes, CLT TATL is going (supposed to) all 772. CLT-LHR was to be the first, but the route has been suspended for now to resume in 2021. CLT was all A330 to Europe so it makes sense that they'd be using 772s from there going forward given the A333/332 retirements.

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by Cointrin330
Tue Dec 08, 2020 12:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020
Replies: 2786
Views: 335242

Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

AA applied for and received approval to move LAX-PVG to SEA-PVG. AA still seems intent on launching SEA-BLR in October 2021 and that route is due to fly with a 789. Rather than move a 789 from another AA hub through SEA, AA will fly both PVG and BLR from SEA with the 789 so that they can isolate th...

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by Cointrin330
Tue Dec 08, 2020 12:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020
Replies: 2786
Views: 335242

Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Pre-Covid, AA was going to fly the 789 from LAX. I guess that doesn't seem very realistic now. AA applied for and received approval to move LAX-PVG to SEA-PVG. AA still seems intent on launching SEA-BLR in October 2021 and that route is due to fly with a 789. Rather than move a 789 from another AA ...

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by Cointrin330
Tue Dec 08, 2020 2:39 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am shuts down 29 years ago today [04DEC].
Replies: 156
Views: 13863

Re: Pan Am shuts down 29 years ago today.

Even if Pan Am had replaced the 747 fleet much earlier (with A310-300s) it would not have mattered much to improve its fortunes. Once DL and AA began operating flights to Europe, it was game over for Pan Am. Pan Am was bleeding so much cash even after the sale of the TPAC network to UA in 1986 and ...

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by Cointrin330
Tue Dec 08, 2020 1:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am shuts down 29 years ago today [04DEC].
Replies: 156
Views: 13863

Re: Pan Am shuts down 29 years ago today.

A year later though, CO was merging with PE, Frontier, Eastern, and New York Air, and had its hands full. NY would have required some divestiture. The framework of the EWR hub sits squarely in the PE operation and the subsequent integration with CO. In hindsight, from a purely commercial standpoint...

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by Cointrin330
Mon Dec 07, 2020 8:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am shuts down 29 years ago today [04DEC].
Replies: 156
Views: 13863

Re: Pan Am shuts down 29 years ago today.

Even if Pan Am had replaced the 747 fleet much earlier (with A310-300s) it would not have mattered much to improve its fortunes. Once DL and AA began operating flights to Europe, it was game over for Pan Am. Pan Am was bleeding so much cash even after the sale of the TPAC network to UA in 1986 and ...

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by Cointrin330
Mon Dec 07, 2020 8:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020
Replies: 2786
Views: 335242

Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

UA owes its success in India to CO and all the ground work done to make the EWR-DEL/BOM routes work. In addition to the ground work done by UA on EWR-DEL/BOM, AI (the flag carrier of India) is also in Star Alliance. Yes, but they really don't cooperate much. CO launched EWR-DEL/BOM in the 2000s and...

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by Cointrin330
Mon Dec 07, 2020 8:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020
Replies: 2786
Views: 335242

Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

UA owes its success in India to CO and all the ground work done to make the EWR-DEL/BOM routes work. In addition to the ground work done by UA on EWR-DEL/BOM, AI (the flag carrier of India) is also in Star Alliance. That's true, but how extensive is United and Air India's partnership? I'm fairly ce...

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by Cointrin330
Mon Dec 07, 2020 6:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020
Replies: 2786
Views: 335242

Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Do you mean will AA launch DEL from SEA or where? Unclear if you were referring to UA or AA and where DEL would launch from. AA and from another hub like DFW. I don’t think AA should try India at all. Too long of a route, weak brand presence, and low market share in the key markets that would make ...

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by Cointrin330
Mon Dec 07, 2020 12:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020
Replies: 2786
Views: 335242

Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

SEA-BLR just got loaded. Also, they are going to downgauge SEA-PVG to a 789 to accommodate the BLR plane. https://onemileatatime.com/american-airlines-seattle-bangalore-flight/ Here's to the start of a new Asia-Pacific hub. Pre-Covid, AA was going to fly the 789 from LAX. I guess that doesn't seem ...

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by Cointrin330
Mon Dec 07, 2020 12:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Network Thread - 2020
Replies: 738
Views: 105096

Re: DL ATL-GIG and JFK-GRU: Chance of restarting?

JFK-GRU is a crucial market for New York corporate traffic - it's by far the largest marking in South America for corporate traffic from New York. Even with a JV with LATAM, you won't see Delta metal leave JFK-GRU in the long-term. Agreed, JFK-GRU is not an "odd-ball" route for Delta at a...

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by Cointrin330
Sun Dec 06, 2020 7:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am shuts down 29 years ago today [04DEC].
Replies: 156
Views: 13863

Re: Pan Am shuts down 29 years ago today.

Actually AA has gone away as far how its run its really America West in disguise. I'm sure the employees are doing their best to create a great airline but they have to work within what the company gives them. Not to hijack the thread, but can you expand more about AA being America West in disguise...

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by Cointrin330
Sun Dec 06, 2020 7:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am shuts down 29 years ago today [04DEC].
Replies: 156
Views: 13863

Re: Pan Am shuts down 29 years ago today.

If I remember correctly they learned that they would be the last flight when they were already en route. I was lucky enough to fly Pan Am as a very young kid, HAM-JFK return in 1990. https://abload.de/img/img_20200525_185439jck6e.jpg I have always wandered if Pan Am would have parked the 747s earli...

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by Cointrin330
Sun Dec 06, 2020 7:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Network Thread - 2020
Replies: 738
Views: 105096

Re: DL ATL-GIG and JFK-GRU: Chance of restarting?

Latin America from ATL is far more important then JFK, Brazil should be flown to as its Latin America's number one country. NYC to GRU has always seemed an odd route for Delta since they are third or fourth behind AA, Latam, and UA. With Delta's JV with LATAM it would seem they are the stronger air...

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by Cointrin330
Sun Dec 06, 2020 2:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Network Thread - 2020
Replies: 738
Views: 105096

Re: DL ATL-GIG and JFK-GRU: Chance of restarting?

Indeed, as LAX772LR said, if demand and yield (plus entry ability is there), DL will restart them. AA is supposed to be restarting JFK-GRU and JFK-EZE around the end of January. We'll see...

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by Cointrin330
Sat Dec 05, 2020 6:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am shuts down 29 years ago today [04DEC].
Replies: 156
Views: 13863

Re: Pan Am shuts down 29 years ago today.

I grew up flying from JFK to Europe in the late 1970's and 1980's and flew both PA and TW (although TWA more frequently). There were some stark differences between the two. While PA's "pioneering" hallmarks by then were relegated to the Clipper naming on aircraft and some clipper design el...

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by Cointrin330
Fri Dec 04, 2020 11:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am shuts down 29 years ago today [04DEC].
Replies: 156
Views: 13863

Re: Pan Am shuts down 29 years ago today.

Pan Am was an institution. Unfortunately, it was grossly mismanaged, slow to adapt to the changed competitive landscape that emerged after Deregulation, and limped along for a decade before it finally went into liquidation after a massive asset sale of its crown jewels (TPAC network, LHR slots, Nor...

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by Cointrin330
Fri Dec 04, 2020 6:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am shuts down 29 years ago today [04DEC].
Replies: 156
Views: 13863

Re: Pan Am shuts down 29 years ago today.

It's just a company that went bankrupt, no different to a small store on your local shopping street.... hundreds of other companies go bankrupt across the world every day and the world carries on What a sad, throwaway comment. Pan Am was an institution. It pioneered modern air travel and had many f...

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