It’s getting to the point that the EU might as well federalise with a central government basically that’s what you are advocating with the comment about the US. Interesting point... Would you say that the US is worse off with a federal government than if it had remained a loose collection of Indepe...
Jump to postAre you saying that UK, as EU member, was participating in finding ways against itself ? You've been brainwashed by the "us vs them" rethoric, I'm afraid. You are funny mate, Cameron used the Veto in 2011 and was subsequently gone around by the rest of the EU, as I said veto is an illusio...
Jump to postI always believed that both sides need stability when this is finally over. Nobody is gaining anything if the UK signs a deal that the UK continues to question in the future and that might be up for adjustment or cancellation at every new election.And if you read the British press and look at the e...
Jump to postThe UK needs to see this and also cancel the withdrawal agreement. No Deal was always the best option. Not one more penny for the EU! As a german troll egging the UK on to do the maximum damage to itself is really getting a bit ghoulish, don't you think? Germany has a history of this doesn’t it. Ju...
Jump to postAs we discussed before a few pages back the veto is an illusion That's one fo the things your leaders have been lying to you about, even while they've been wielding that same veto to great effect, actually having made the UK one of the most influential member state, just while taking great pains to...
Jump to postThe problem for you is that the UK does not have the upper hand. You will see the result of theses negotiations. And the EU is so fed up with the way your politicians are acting that the MEPs want to harden the EU stance. That is fine then. We will not have a trade deal. The UK needs to see this an...
Jump to postEvery treaty, every trade agreement, every defense pact, every membership in any international association is a limitation on sovereignty. Yes it does and that cuts both ways, but only if you agree and ratify it. The problem with the EU is it works one way as the EU has supremacy over UK legislativ...
Jump to postThat’s the fundamental difference between you & I. I’m not questioning the merits of the tax just the sovereign right of the UK to do it without interference from outside the UK, sovereignty is one of the reasons for Brexit If the UK pulls that kind of crap from the outside there will be recipr...
Jump to post12 days after Brexit, and the UK is learning it is still a full subject to EU rules over which it has no more say, having been ordered to answer to the European Commission over an obscure road tax. The UK has been given 2 months to change how the British tax works -or be taken to the ECJ- since Bre...
Jump to postWhat does tha London financial sector think about this. One remainder of that the financial sector of London stands for close 20% of all UK tax incomes... Accprding to the FT front page, they're not enthused at all: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQckMRqXkAEOWhK?format=jpg&name=large (via Twitter)...
Jump to postIf there is a re-unification vote it would simplify things, it would remove the only land border between the UK and the EU since there would be no UK on the island of Ireland. Interesting.... Tory members seem to agree with Sinn Fein that the UK should get rid of Northern Ireland to more fully imme...
Jump to postI recall that the UK government mentioned that the "smart" borders were ready to implement. Now it will take till 2025 (excluding any delay, which usually happen with these types of projects). On the postive side, Gove is honest about what businesses should expect. Total divergence with t...
Jump to postAnother loophole is getting plugged as we speak: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/10/eu-clamps-down-free-ports-zones-crime-terror-links EU clamps down on free ports over crime and terrorism links Moves comes as Britain launches consultation on creation of up to 10 of the zones Brussels is ...
Jump to postArion640 wrote:If it needs to be extended it will be a last minute extension to put maximum pressure on the EU.
Spot on article by the telegraph: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/02/07/panicked-eu-goes-brexit-meltdown-britain-finally-has-upper-hand/amp/ The EU is panicking Uh, in a word: No. But clearly the Telegraph is, because they have been ramming a bunch of lies down thei...
Jump to postA lot said Poland and other Eastern bloc countries wouldn’t join. "A lot" being who ? You're employing standard trumpian smoke-blowing here. But they did. The UK was actually the main driver for that, always pushing for the shallowest possible EU but expanded to maximum area, and UK polit...
Jump to postSovereignty:the ability for the UK to make its own rules and standards as an independent nation The UK always had that, and actually to a much greater degree than it could outside of the EU, because for almost half a century the UK was actually able to influence or even veto the rules of the contin...
Jump to postYes am awere what the AU deals is, more like specific mutual recognition in agreed areas than an actual trade deal, we can still doing basic agreement if both sides agree on tariffs and such but if that not what the EU will do so be it. You're confusing a limited certification regime for foreign ex...
Jump to postIf there's anything that's similar to Brexit there, it's that many people love easy scapegoats to assign blame to instead of bothering with the actual facts.
Open a new thread if you must, but don't count on seeing me there.
Yes am awere what the AU deals is, more like specific mutual recognition in agreed areas than an actual trade deal, we can still doing basic agreement if both sides agree on tariffs and such but if that not what the EU will do so be it. You're confusing a limited certification regime for foreign ex...
Jump to postDue to the self-imposed time limit, you're effectively no longer talking about NO DEAL then; you're effectively talking about NO BUSINESS. :shock: So you think the EU will stop all trade because we did sign a win-lose trade deal with the EU..... Ya dreaming mate If you fail to agree to a new deal w...
Jump to postShall we not have a new thread called UK EU FTA negotiations? The current thread is acting like UK is still a member and EU should act in the best interest of UK. UK is out. It is still aligned to EU standards, bu only so for another 10 month. The negotiations now are still part of Brexit, as will ...
Jump to postDe facto standardization to chargers with standard USB sockets was in fact driven by Apple for the reasons given, long before the competition caught up eventually, even if those facts don't fit the popular narrative. "OMTP standard - Micro-USB was endorsed as the standard connector for data an...
Jump to postprimarily because Apple introduced it that way with early iPods and stuck to the same principle all throughout iPhones and iPads since then, and the rest of the industry followed them. That earlier awkward EU mandate for micro USB had nothing to do with it. Hmmm... I think I detect a fanboy... That...
Jump to postWalk away to a partnership agreement like the current AU/EU agreement If you're thinking of Australia there, that's almost nothing. The UK economy would crater if it was effectively cut off from the EU and it had to live with new massive barriers where there had been none. The "australian deal...
Jump to postWalk away boris. To where , exactly? The slate is still blank on what, exactly, the claimed advantages would actually look like! (Let alone any kind of advantage that could make up for the massive loss of EU trade!) Right now it's just BoJo effectively threatening the UK's suicide as the alternativ...
Jump to postI joked earlier with the bendy banana's but despite being a Euromyth from the 90's it's still on ! https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien/which-eu-law-can-we-now-change-four-brexit-calls/ Desperately trying to retroactively scrape together just any justifications for their already rigi...
Jump to postGood Greif. How does the smaller nations like AU/NZ set their own standards survive. I had shown an example of differing fuel standards between AU to EU that doesn’t stop Euro countries from exporting vehicles to AU they use different techniques and or different motors for that market than their ow...
Jump to postThese EU lot are starting to sound like Americans who think they have influence on other countries and get them to do things. One such example took place on the a.net civil aviation forum where it was suggested the US should ban Lufthansa flying to Iran. The US is actually aggressively pursuing eur...
Jump to postThis will have to apply globally, so unless they want to end up blocking out all other nations financial services (or they don't mind being blocked from the rest of the world), the EU rules and regulations will have to be manageable and acceptable.Which in turn means UK will be able to manage them ...
Jump to postYes. Like every other normal country does around the world. That's fine and the other way around for the UK, just a 3rd country for the EU. Yes exactly. But every country not in the EU is a “third country”. With widely varying alignment to the EU, however, depending on treaties and agreements (whic...
Jump to postPlus the Immigration Rules will apply, rather than EEA regs so we can start refusing entry to EU nationals at the border, who can’t satisfy meeting immigration rules. No, you can't "start" doing that because the UK always already could while still being an EU member! That you actually bel...
Jump to postThe EU can mandate whatever rules it wishes (essentially) for its governed regions, and it can isolate or insulate itself as well. China does it so I won't be at all surprised if another governing body does the same. The world will adjust and be OK. The world has already decided in many sectors tha...
Jump to postPlus the Immigration Rules will apply, rather than EEA regs so we can start refusing entry to EU nationals at the border, who can’t satisfy meeting immigration rules. No, you can't "start" doing that because the UK always already could while still being an EU member! That you actually bel...
Jump to postI don’t think the worlds fifth biggest economy is that easy to ignore. Sure, but what does India have to do with anything here? we have an economy larger than france remember. Just marginally, at the latest estimate. You've already slipped to 6th place due to Brexit and that slide is likely to cont...
Jump to postSeriously, you all must control the entire world being so united and not fractious at all and such. You really should take a moment and congratulate yourself! The EU is the result of exactly those experiences already made by the member countries when they were still isolated and divide and conquer ...
Jump to postI don’t think the worlds fifth biggest economy is that easy to ignore. Sure, but what does India have to do with anything here? we have an economy larger than france remember. Just marginally, at the latest estimate. You've already slipped to 6th place due to Brexit and that slide is likely to cont...
Jump to postExactly that practical experience actually made in previous decades led to the creation of the common economic policies of the EU, and the EU has indeed become a global leader regarding regulations of all kinds – the USA is too fractured itself to be that beyond very basic standards all US states c...
Jump to postOfficial the negitistions need to be finnished before october 15. https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1238115/brexit-timeline-eu-news-2020-goals-negotiations-michel-barnier-boris-johnson I guess that this is impossible... 2 options - wto from 2021 or another extension. I believe that the negoti...
Jump to postJJJ wrote:As BoE governor Carney put it: Sterling volatility is at emerging market levels and has decoupled from from other advanced economy pairs for obvious reasons.
Seriously, you all must control the entire world being so united and not fractious at all and such. You really should take a moment and congratulate yourself! The EU is the result of exactly those experiences already made by the member countries when they were still isolated and divide and conquer ...
Jump to postOne line for the 450 million. One line for the 7 Billion. Now the rest of the world needs to align itself with UK rules? Interesting. Yes they will need too when exporting to the UK,no different when exporting to the EU It is much less likely that a foreign producer will undertake the expense and e...
Jump to postAn Atlantic article mentioned decades ago that labor was concerned about control and Tory about influence. Prescient. But kinda reversed. UK is gaining some control and losing a lot of influence. Ps. Thatcher was wrong about direction of money flow. The south lost against the north. Still she was r...
Jump to postGuy V wants an EU army to face russia. I mentioned this upthread but was told why would the EU want to compete with Russia? Are you so out of any possible positives coming from Brexit that you need to dig up old distorted talking points to maybe steady your own wobbling confidence? Aren't there any...
Jump to postThere is seemingly little to no interest to change education systems and everything is about what will win the next election, not about long term plans. Johnson's speech clearly set out their new goals: • aggressive deregulation (while name-dropping some specific current regulations at the same tim...
Jump to postnoviorbis77 wrote:Well some of us can look beyond the obvious and don’t just make conclusions after reading tabloids.
None of us will know the truth behind that stupid letter until the culprit can be found. Actually, it is already explicit from the letter itself and there is hardly any plausible argument against the obvious conclusion. Unfortunately Brexit has drawn out some pretty unpleasant individuals. On both ...
Jump to post@ Point 3 - and spain will veto Scotland joining too. Nope. Plenty of politicians on record saying they won't mind as long as it's done legally. How exactly can someone join the EU illegally? Good question! :biggrin: I was of course referring to Scotland becoming independent with that! (But by impl...
Jump to postIf there are two different regulatory, labor, currency ecosystems abutting, by definition there will be a border with some friction. Sure, but only in the real world, so Boris and his posse aren't bothered. I watched Sophie Ridge interviewing Dominic Raab, and even for him that was an astounding co...
Jump to postOf course it’s was always going to hinge on any trade agreement, but the EU-JPN trade agreement might just benefit the UK more than you think https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www.fleetnews.co.uk/amp/news/manufacturer-news/2019/02/01/new-eu-japan-trade-deal-could-reshape-european-car-market Well, tha...
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