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by Klaus
Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:57 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox
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Re: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox

So Corbyn sinks his own party and hands Boris the power to ram through the Brexit Corbyn has always wanted. At least there's a bit of clarity now: The electorate has voted to jump off the cliff, given they've been camping up there all this time already. At least half a point for consistency there, a...

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by Klaus
Sun Nov 03, 2019 8:50 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox
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Views: 176644

Re: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox

Dutchy wrote:
The extreme fundamental Brexiteers want a clean cut with everything that goes with it,

What they're trying to sell is about as "clean" as a leg amputation with a chain saw.

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by Klaus
Sat Nov 02, 2019 8:28 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox
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Views: 176644

Re: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox

In Germany I register with the city once when I move there which automatically unregisters me at my previous community and thats all it takes for pretty much all identification purposes – that registration also has the election office automatically sending me my election card which I can either use ...

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by Klaus
Wed Oct 23, 2019 3:16 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox
Replies: 2565
Views: 176644

Re: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox

Just when you thought they were nearly "home and dry" ... another delay, possibly until the middle of next year. I'm beginning to think those memes about Stardate 2500 and the Brits still negotiating an exit from the EU are going to become closer to reality. The DUP have certainly exacted...

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by Klaus
Tue Oct 22, 2019 1:29 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox
Replies: 2565
Views: 176644

Re: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox

https://xkcd.com/2218/
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The improbability level has now reached xkcd levels:
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"If you'd just agree to hold your meetings in here, you'd have PLENTY of time to figure things out before the deadline."

https://xkcd.com/2218/

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by Klaus
Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:12 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox
Replies: 2565
Views: 176644

Re: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox

That letter has no real legal substance anyway, though, because it is only the actual offer and then the acceptance of the extension which have binding legal effect, not this request. AFAIK, the Benn Act contains a provision whereby any offer from the EU which is before and including January 31st s...

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by Klaus
Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:05 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox
Replies: 2565
Views: 176644

Re: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox

As much as I found it utterly childish that Boris didn't sign the letter drafted under the Benn Act, I highly doubt the EU will deem the request null and void because there's no signature given that a) Boris was required by UK law to send it, b) Sir Tim Barrow sent a signed letter at the same time ...

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by Klaus
Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:34 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox
Replies: 2565
Views: 176644

Re: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox

Had the EU not already previously stated if Boris failed to comply with the UK's law, the application for extension would be assumed on their part by default based on the UK law mandating that it must be made? As tedious as the process is, the EU aren't daft enough to allow Boris and his ilk to pin...

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by Klaus
Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:31 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox
Replies: 2565
Views: 176644

Re: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox

Boris is sending the Parliamentary letter unsigned, along with a second letter its going to be interesting to see how the courts interpret it. Yes, acting like a spoiled child just like his hero Trump. IIRC, there was plenty of legal opinion when it was first suggested, that such an action could be...

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by Klaus
Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:21 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox
Replies: 2565
Views: 176644

Re: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox

I can see Gina Miller going off her head and the courts going to be busy on Monday :hissyfit: :box: :rotfl: So far she has primarily tried to protect Parliament's sovereignty against an overreaching government, but the whole point of the Letwin Amendment was already to preserve Parliament's right o...

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by Klaus
Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:13 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox
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Views: 176644

Re: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox

There we go again. Another few months before we know what will happen. Brexit saga continues. That’s up to the EU now, could be a blessing in disguise for the EU if they say no. One way or another if they say no the deal will get passed or parliament will revoke, power is in the hands of the EU her...

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by Klaus
Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:11 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox
Replies: 2565
Views: 176644

Re: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox

Supreme Leader Juncker has said there will be no further delay on Brexit. We’re leaving on the 31st October whatever happens now. The no deal express is leaving the station and accelerating down the track. It's not Juncker that makes the decision. He's just the figurehead of the executive body that...

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by Klaus
Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:57 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox
Replies: 2565
Views: 176644

Re: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox

Well at least Junker himself should be out by then :) Actually, no, he won't be! Due to the Parliament rejecting three of the proposed commissioners the new Commission will not start at November 1st as planned but there will be some delay, so Juncker will stay on for a few more days yet until that ...

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by Klaus
Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:18 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox
Replies: 2565
Views: 176644

Re: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox

I just noticed that we're apparently talking about two different posts of mine and that one of my older post indeed contains a misattributed quote. I just re-checked and it apparently originated from LJ (whose text I actually quoted) having some botched tags which I cleaned up the wrong way in my qu...

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by Klaus
Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:58 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox
Replies: 2565
Views: 176644

Re: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox

Well first up please show were I said this as per your previous post suggested and then you will find the correct person you are quoting,I have not said anything of the sort. All I am asking if you quote someone just quote the correct person, am not even sure who you are talking to now. The problem...

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by Klaus
Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:04 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox
Replies: 2565
Views: 176644

Re: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox

Not sure who you are quoting but it’s not me, can you make sure you quote the correct person in the future please. Your quote is misattributing my quotes and inconsistent with my actual post: Er... actually, majority decisions are the core of democracy, really! Majority yes. But require the parliam...

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by Klaus
Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:48 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox
Replies: 2565
Views: 176644

Re: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox

And it is this which became the 'original sin' of party politics. And it is this which makes democracies ungovernable. And it is this (in part) which has resulted in the NI parliament (?) from forming for several years. And it is the which results in death and destruction. Er... actually, majority ...

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by Klaus
Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:20 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox
Replies: 2565
Views: 176644

Re: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox

thus departing from the principle of consent of both unionists and nationalists. And it is this which became the 'original sin' of party politics. And it is this which makes democracies ungovernable. And it is this (in part) which has resulted in the NI parliament (?) from forming for several years...

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by Klaus
Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:56 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox
Replies: 2565
Views: 176644

Re: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox

Note that the EU takes a risk with this deal as it has a big chance of not getting it through Parliament (and thus resulting in a no deal Brexit). The EU couldn't say no. One may argue that the EU has fallen into a trap designed to get a no deal Brexit by Boris agreeing to a deal of which he knows ...

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by Klaus
Wed Oct 16, 2019 3:18 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox
Replies: 2565
Views: 176644

Re: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox

TM's first deal was pretty much what the EU27 had proposed, namely pretty much the current one. Only because the DUP forced TM to renege on her already given consent that was then reluctantly changed by the EU27 to encompass the entire UK in the compliant zone, but that was then still rejected by th...

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by Klaus
Wed Oct 16, 2019 12:59 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox
Replies: 2565
Views: 176644

Re: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox

Why was PM Varadkar not given a prime spot in the negotiations from the start? Seems he has/had some good input in the final stretch. He always had a prime spot providing input to Michel Barnier in the negotiations based on Ireland's special vulnerability, but the UK ignored him and Ireland's legit...

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by Klaus
Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:37 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox
Replies: 2565
Views: 176644

Re: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox

soo... looks like nothing, so far.

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by Klaus
Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:34 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox
Replies: 2565
Views: 176644

Re: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox

The EU parliament (admittedly not the EU council) has said in advance that the UK parliament is sovereign, so it will take into account that letter. Usually the UK government has credibility through the support of the UK parliament, but the current UK government hasn't proven it has that support, i...

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by Klaus
Fri Oct 11, 2019 3:57 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox
Replies: 2565
Views: 176644

Re: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox

To be honest, in the end, I think this is going to end up as a "fudge"; there'll be a border along the Irish Sea in name only and the odd check now and again, just to tick a box, but ultimately, I think common sense will rule and these customs borders will exist in name only. Nope. That w...

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by Klaus
Fri Oct 11, 2019 2:19 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox
Replies: 2565
Views: 176644

Re: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox

At the end of the day, if the will exist they will find a way, just look at the current situation. The will does not exist for Brexit so they have spent a number of years ensuring that no way exist. The problem is that the leavers don't have the will to accept the actual, real consequences of their...

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by Klaus
Fri Oct 11, 2019 2:15 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox
Replies: 2565
Views: 176644

Re: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox

To be honest, in the end, I think this is going to end up as a "fudge"; there'll be a border along the Irish Sea in name only and the odd check now and again, just to tick a box, but ultimately, I think common sense will rule and these customs borders will exist in name only. Nope. That w...

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by Klaus
Tue Oct 08, 2019 4:13 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox
Replies: 2565
Views: 176644

Re: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox

The only reason why extensions have even become possible is that the UK is far from actually exploiting them but is so massively screwing up itself that it is basically an act of charity.

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by Klaus
Sun Oct 06, 2019 7:55 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox
Replies: 2565
Views: 176644

Re: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ain-behind
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Just as a bit of a reality check I recommend this Guardian editorial, which is nothing brutal but just apt to give a little useful perspective adjustment about the current situation:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ain-behind

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by Klaus
Sun Oct 06, 2019 9:30 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox
Replies: 2565
Views: 176644

Re: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox

It's sadly ironic in a country that one ruled a third of the world is regressing so much. How can you see that as a contradiction? The colonial era was already a massive regression to atavistic impulses of greedy conquest, and that many britons still see it as something grand and progressive is exa...

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by Klaus
Sun Oct 06, 2019 1:44 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox
Replies: 2565
Views: 176644

Re: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox

So if they have another referendum how do they ensure that the result of the vote is to Remain, so far the push for another vote is on whatever deal is agreed, since they are not going to approve a deal, nothing to vote on, so far most parties are afraid to come out and say the initial vote leave w...

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by Klaus
Sat Oct 05, 2019 1:52 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox
Replies: 2565
Views: 176644

Re: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox

Lets brexit on the 31st of October and bring an end to this farce. Everyone is seriously p*ssed off now. All politicians on all sides are just a bunch of kids. Let's revoke Article 50 immediately and bring an end to this farce. Everyone is seriously pissed off now. All politicians on all sides are ...

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by Klaus
Fri Oct 04, 2019 9:28 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox
Replies: 2565
Views: 176644

Re: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox

Yes, but I guess that an actual second referendum could really put a lid on that toxic mess the way a parliamentary vote might not be able to, even though it would of course be decise functionally. I was specifically speaking to the point of "being done with Brexit" and that a crash-out wo...

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by Klaus
Fri Oct 04, 2019 7:04 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox
Replies: 2565
Views: 176644

Re: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox

Lets brexit on the 31st of October and bring an end to this farce. Everyone is seriously p*ssed off now. All politicians on all sides are just a bunch of kids. A hard Brexit would mean the following: • Brexit would dominate UK politics and news even more intensely from day 1. • All the exact same i...

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by Klaus
Fri Oct 04, 2019 6:30 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox
Replies: 2565
Views: 176644

Re: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox

The only modification the ECJ has made is to allow for unilateral retraction of Article 50 right to the end of the now extended period, but that already had no basis in Article 50 itself and was basically a politically motivated gift to the UK. Does this mean that Article 50 is a moving target or t...

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by Klaus
Fri Oct 04, 2019 5:30 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox
Replies: 2565
Views: 176644

Re: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox

> if no extension is granted, it still is the question of what happens next. And that depends on how article 50 is actually explained. That can be done in two ways: a. after two years the country in question automatically sees to be a member of the EU b. after two years article 50 requests is autom...

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by Klaus
Thu Oct 03, 2019 2:17 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox
Replies: 2565
Views: 176644

Re: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox

The Brexit Steering Group of the European Parliament has just published its official response to the UK paper: http://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20191003IPR63303/brexit-recent-uk-proposals-do-not-offer-the-safeguards-the-eu-and-ireland-need First , the UK proposals on customs and on r...

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by Klaus
Thu Oct 03, 2019 2:49 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox
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Views: 176644

Re: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox

In other words: Boris keeps insisting on crashing out without a deal with an insincerely designed "proposal" which is no more than a domestic fig leaf and designed to fail at the EU and as before he wants Parliament shoved out of the way so it can't stop him from perpetrating that.

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by Klaus
Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:17 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox
Replies: 2565
Views: 176644

Re: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox

or does there need to be a "No Confidence" vote taken first? Is there a chance parliament will be dissolved in light of the court ruling? If so, who is the likely replacement for Prime Minister if Boris Johnson's party loses? Why would this court ruling dissolve the house of commons? If P...

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by Klaus
Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:48 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox
Replies: 2565
Views: 176644

Re: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox

If the Queen can't do that, she has no function and the state is almost defenseless against overreaching governments as we've seen. And yet we've just seen the court act in the interests of the country over that of, to use your phrase, an "overreaching government". No Government can act b...

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by Klaus
Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:19 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox
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Views: 176644

Re: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox

There is an important distinction between the interests of government and the interest of the state , and it is highly problematic if the interests of the state are just not represented by anybody. Does the UK parliament not represent the interests of the state? No, they are partisan politicians wh...

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by Klaus
Tue Sep 24, 2019 7:40 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox
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Views: 176644

Re: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox

This suggests you don't understand how the Monarchy works in the UK. The Queen (or King) are simply figureheads with no real power. The current Queen takes her duties very seriously but would never dream of going against her Government. We could do away with the Monarchy tomorrow and it would chang...

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by Klaus
Tue Sep 24, 2019 6:59 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox
Replies: 2565
Views: 176644

Re: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox

Everyone knew what Boris was doing, it wasn't a secret. The Queen knew it, yet she did nothing to stop it. Nobody knew the Government had acted unlawfully before this morning. Everybody knew it, but nobody had a written judgment to that effect yet, and I guess that's the standard that would have ha...

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by Klaus
Tue Sep 24, 2019 3:17 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox
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Views: 176644

Re: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox

The point is out of the two investigations by both metro and NCA both recognise failure to reach a conclusion on burden of proof infact the NCA describe it as no evidence. But I do like the liar liar pants on fire porkies directed towards the leave camp, but one should be aware of the throwing ston...

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by Klaus
Tue Sep 24, 2019 3:14 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox
Replies: 2565
Views: 176644

Re: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox

I hope that whatever Britain does is irrelevant because at least one European country won’t grant them an extension, France and The Netherlands already hinted on refusing. Britain is a mess and the EU shouldn’t keep up with them any longer. That perspective does have some merit, but it applies prim...

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by Klaus
Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:51 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox
Replies: 2565
Views: 176644

Re: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox

No misrepresentation at all, being members of the EU made it easier for GFA to reach its outcome It made the GFA possible! but that also means the foundations are based on all aspects of the treaty not just certain points. Nope. The GFA is based specifically on the possibility to have an almost ful...

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by Klaus
Sun Sep 22, 2019 6:54 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox
Replies: 2565
Views: 176644

Re: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox

The remain camp keeps harping on how the EU laws are the foundation of the GFA so therefore A50 is part of that foundation, you can’t have it both ways. That is yet another misrepresentation. The GFA's foundations are based on membership of both Ireland and the UK in the EU. The actual individual E...

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by Klaus
Sun Sep 22, 2019 6:50 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox
Replies: 2565
Views: 176644

Re: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox

The problem with Corbyn is that he has fully subscribed to the lies on which Brexit is based and he's merely trying tactical tricks to get an advantage out of it, but he never challenges the core lies. And that becomes ever harder with the actual reality ever more visibly refusing to go along with t...

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by Klaus
Tue Sep 17, 2019 5:29 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox
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Views: 176644

Re: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox

Boeing74741R wrote:
As much as I'm against a no deal Brexit, a Northern Irish court ruled last week that a no deal Brexit wouldn't breach the Good Friday Agreement...

Maybe not the letter of the agreement, but very certainly its spirit and its foundations.

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by Klaus
Tue Sep 17, 2019 5:21 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox
Replies: 2565
Views: 176644

Re: Brexit part 7: The Frog who Aspired to Become as Big as the Ox

People always say it's the Tories that are the most divided on Europe, but Labour are just as divided Maybe, but the other way around: Only the party leader, some of the functionaries and a minority of members and supporters support Brexit while most are on the Remain side. In the Tories, Remain ha...

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