It's weak argument. The flight never even operated. DL's argument to the DOT is based on today's demand between PDX and Tokyo. It has nothing to do with the demand 4 years ago. I imagine this figure includes passengers transported by all airlines, not just by DL including those making a connection....
Jump to postUnited successfully exposed Delta’s ruthless deception by charging $10k plus for tickets from PDX to HND to suppress demand and then claim there was no demand. Shame on Delta for these blatantly nefarious tactics. Give the slots to United already! It's weak argument. The flight never even operated....
Jump to postPontiac wrote:Coupled with 2,500 minimum flight distance in F for lounge access makes it worse than prepandemic.
Flew domestic F on another airline today and it got me thinking, when, if ever is AS going to bring back PDBs in F? Since the pandemic I’ve been hard pressed to get a box of water in F before takeoff let alone some orange juice or a cup of wine. While not a huge deal, it’s something that really upg...
Jump to postHow is belly cargo doing for both PDX Asia routes? I would imagine the cargo demand is fairly strong? If not, or if the cargo demand can easily shift to other gateways, it is interesting to note that PDX-TYO seems to be barely within the range of A321XLR. Would that be a possibility? As for ICN-PDX...
Jump to postJL much more likely than NH, with hubs on both ends for OW. PDX will regain Tokyo service eventually. Japan is just getting out of the travel restrictions, and the push to keep Japanese vacationers within Japan. For the 100th time, PDX has been one of the slowest cities to see corporate travel rebo...
Jump to postAC4500 wrote:WestJet is dropping PDX, effective October 30....
Class Action Law Suit being filed against Sea-Tac, Alaska, and Delta over health effects of aviation in residents (300k) within a 5 mile radius of the airport. Sea-Tac is being sued as the airport operator and Alaska and Delta as the largest flight operators. Consequences, the lawsuit alleges, incl...
Jump to postI heard a rumor (take it with a grain of salt) that Avelo is very pleased with RDM and was considering more destinations from there? Any weight to that rumor? If so, what destinations could it be?
Jump to postUpdate on concessions vendors for main terminal expansion: https://www.oregonlive.com/dining/2023/04/wood-fired-pizza-scratch-made-pasta-and-a-combination-beer-hallspeakeasy-are-coming-to-portland-international-airport.html Some new, some returning. Partial opening May 2024, full (complete project?...
Jump to post[twoid][/twoid] Update on concessions vendors for main terminal expansion: https://www.oregonlive.com/dining/2023/04/wood-fired-pizza-scratch-made-pasta-and-a-combination-beer-hallspeakeasy-are-coming-to-portland-international-airport.html Some new, some returning. Partial opening May 2024, full (co...
Jump to postArticle today from simpleflying.com about Salem. https://simpleflying.com/salem-municipal-airport-potential-commercial-flight-resumption/ One thing I find interesting is about halfway in the article, it says “ The name of the carrier in today's proposal was redacted due to a nondisclosure clause, bu...
Jump to postNews update for SLE service:
https://www.statesmanjournal.com/story/ ... 089166007/
Because the MAX seems seasonally unable to reach PDX, and the 757 fleet is limited, perhaps this will mean that FI can offer KEF-PDX year round?
Jump to postmesasurf wrote:Volaris GDL-SLC I can see happening.
PDX-ATW/DSM/GRR extended up to October 29. All three were previously scheduled to end in mid-August. We'll see if that sticks... I wonder if G4 would ever consider basing aircraft and crew at PDX at some point. That would create opportunities for them to open up routes like PDX-CVG/IND. My G4 wishl...
Jump to postAUS was pretty fast, but I don’t know if it was quite this fast. I also have a biased opinion, but I think BAs success is proof of PDX’s ability to support reasonable international service. Sure, BA has a vast network, and AS helps support it, but I do have to wonder if BA regrets not having starte...
Jump to postNew updated PDXNext illustrations..... https://www.pdxnext.com/Stories/Details/main-terminal-2023-virtual-tour?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=Take%20the%20tour&utm_campaign=PDXNext%20Newsletter%20-%20March Nostalgic me is going to miss the current/old layout and ever...
Jump to postBA’s success in PDX is exciting. The 777 was originally scheduled for a July start if I am not mistaken. Of all BA’s recent new market launches, has a market been seen upgauges as rapidly as PDX? Maybe AUS? AUS was pretty fast, but I don’t know if it was quite this fast. I also have a biased opinio...
Jump to postAccording to SimplyFlying.com, FI is making RDU, BWI, and YVR year round. Based on summer results, and BA and DL loads to LHR and AMS respectively being positive, it seems FI could make PDX year round succeed. At one point pre-2020, I seem to recall FI flying to PDX very nearly year round or announc...
Jump to postHIO would be an interesting alternative to PDX for a part 135 operator, though I'm not sure what the FBO situation is like there. It's big enough for Intel and Nike to operate out of. There are three good sized FBO's at HIO between Aero Air, Global Aviation, and Hillsboro Aviation. Guess it would d...
Jump to postOnly 30 seats and 30 pax+bags, quite a bit lighter than a typical regional config, especially for the 145s. Both routes are within ERJ published performance even without accounting for decreased payload. Also, sad to see PDX omitted from this map. The PDX-BFI flight was killed off by Covid right as...
Jump to postWas playing around with DB1B data and came up with this fun table of the largest indirect O&Ds for each AS hub for Q3 2022 (domestic only): Some of the SEA ones are pretty THICK (90 PDEW plus): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1L6qQ4y_uM9M41v6tOStk6Jojtubf3NIqfw5-3mHiBzE/edit?usp=sharing ...
Jump to postBrian Sumers over at The Airline Observer had an interview with CEO Rob McKinney this week. Think the below little snippet summarizes the situation well. I am accustomed to speaking with overconfident airline CEOs, who express optimism even when there’s no reason for it. McKinney was not this way. ...
Jump to postWell, I think this is great news for those who said the airline would never fly. I also think it's smart to start slow, and gives the crew time to familiarize itself to the aircraft and service. I do suspect they will eventually add more service to other cities. And for all we know, they could have...
Jump to postThe reality is French Bee has zero brand awareness in Portland. I am not saying PDX can’t sustain a flight to PAR, but most definitely not on an aircraft with over 400 seats. That would be a highly opportunistic business play, and I don’t think French Bee or any carrier for that matter would make a...
Jump to postNot a chance at all, especially to PDX- that A350-1000 has 480 seats. Does anyone have PDX-PAR O&D numbers? They also have A350-900s. And if they only operate the flight 2-3x a week, that's only a fraction of 480 per day. The reality is French Bee has zero brand awareness in Portland. I am not ...
Jump to postLooking into this further, I'm a bit weary. In the SAN page, it says "Starting in 2022 , you will be able to book cheap direct flights on French bee from San Diego and Paris." That clearly didn't pan out, so I'm wondering if their plans for LAS/PDX/SAN/SEA were put on hold until they can ...
Jump to postWN Extension 10/5 - 11/4 Summary for EUG/PDX: EUG: BUR - 7x weekly (1x all week) DEN - 7x weekly (1x all week) LAS - 8x weekly (Mon-Sat: 1x; Sun: 2x) OAK - 12x weekly (Mon-Fri: 2x; Sat-Sun: 1x) SJC - 7x weekly (1x all week) TOTAL: 41x weekly (~6 daily flights) PDX: BUR - 7x weekly (1x all week) MDW...
Jump to postJSX really is doing something right, and I am impressed at their performance. I really hope they come back to BFI soon. They offer some pretty darned good service. I wouldn't be surprised if they haven't kicked some tires on the 170/175. Would be cool to see them launch Portland as they once intend...
Jump to postlhpdx wrote:https://us.frenchbee.com/en/flights/paris/portland-paris
Wow!! I hope this is true............
This wording for Portland is also curious:
"This is the only non-stop route available between the two cities."
LAXintl wrote:Well you cant fly to Japan, but you can between ONT-LAS effective June 2nd.
Loaded in GDS
Friday
7H711 ONT-LAS 1400-1500
Sunday
7H777 LAS-ONT 1400-1500
AS will be down to 1x daily E175 on PDX-SLC from 6/16 - 8/14. I understand cutting flights because of resource shortages (crew, planes, etc.), but there has to be a better way to do it than this... It's just ridiculous. In 2019, AS flew this route 3x daily, all on 737s. The question is...Is AS fill...
Jump to postI'd be inclined to cut them a little slack. USA Today reports "Travel chaos ensues after Portland picks up heaviest snow since 1943 ". It's a big, broad regional happening. Here in Crescent City CA (we've been considered honorary Oregon because Brookings/Curry County OR is part of the air...
Jump to postThe Port of Portland has really dropped the ball the last two weather events. I feel they are so busy with the new terminal that they forget their running an airport. If it wasn’t for airlines flying in and out of this airport, there wouldn’t be an airport or new terminal. The last storm that start...
Jump to postSLCaviation wrote:Still waiting on PVU-BUR and SGU-BUR
jplatts wrote:ibthebigd wrote:I'm curious why G4 hasn't tried CVG/IND-PDX. GRR is a lot smaller airport and has PDX.
CVG and IND both have AS service, whereas DSM and GRR currently do not have any AS service.
TransWorldOne wrote:TransWorldOne wrote:TransWorldOne wrote:It looks like DL’s PDX-HND flight is no longer bookable on Delta.com through October.
Edited original post to say “through October”. First bookable flight is on November 1st”
kwbl wrote:BA’s December numbers weren’t to bad with LF around 80% but agree that a daily 777 seems like a big lift.
Any updates on SLE service? If they want to launch service this summer (as some articles have reported), then you'd think there would have to be an announcement pretty soon. From the Statesman Journal https://www.statesmanjournal.com/story/news/local/2023/01/10/salem-council-approves-funds-to-ready...
Jump to postAS does not need to serve DAL nonstop from PDX with AS still serving DFW nonstop from PDX. Depending where you're going in the Dallas Fort Worth Metroplex, DAL is much more convenient than DFW. For the city of Dallas itself, Love Field is much better and when AS did operate PDX-DAL, I have taken it...
Jump to postAlaska is now the Official Airline of the Portland Trailblazers, and in the press release it talks about how wonderful Portland is and how important it is to Alaska (https://news.alaskaair.com/newsroom/alaska-airlines-named-official-airline-of-portland-trail-blazers/) but then they keep cutting fre...
Jump to postPDX-DAL is now gone on AS. Saw it coming a mile away. Alaska is now the Official Airline of the Portland Trailblazers, and in the press release it talks about how wonderful Portland is and how important it is to Alaska (https://news.alaskaair.com/newsroom/alaska-airlines-named-official-airline-of-p...
Jump to postIceCream wrote:I don't understand why they're so hell-bent on this Asia idea. They seem to be doing ok with Ravn Alaska anyways.
Couple of interesting flights yesterday/today. Stumped on them. https://flightaware.com/live/flight/NKS1232/history/20230105/0145Z/KFLL/KPDX NK FLL-PDX. Flight number has been consistently FLL-ATL. This one was supposed to be a repo flight, but turned live. Local ops had no clue... Interesting.. Li...
Jump to postIf AS adds anything this year, my bet is on BWI and PHL. Both were successful summer seasonal flights before the pandemic, so I think we'll see those come back before any new destinations. Other than that, maybe ATL, BNA or IAH could be successful as well. Operating more than just one daily flight ...
Jump to postAC PDX-YYZ will return to daily in summer 2023. https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/221127-acns23us AC PDX-YYC removed from summer schedules. Safe to say WestJet has conquered the PDX-YYC market. Great to see it move to daily. Wasn’t this mainline last year (not Rouge)? It was. Using an A223
Jump to postPDX October stats are out. Passenger Recovery continues. 12% increase October 2022 vs October 2021. Hawaiian has is having a very healthy rebound in passenger numbers-up 42%- numbers not seen since 2018. Hawaiian also seems to be operating the larger A330 on PDX-HNL more consistently nowadays also ...
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