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by Eikie
Mon May 18, 2020 7:39 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: May 18th, 1920: first official KLM flight: AMS - London
Replies: 9
Views: 1333

Re: May 18th, 1920: first official KLM flight: AMS - London

Assume the Croydon airport no longer exists? Did a quick google map search and see something that appears to have been its existence, but I yield here to the experts It is closed and mostly build over, but the terminal building and control tower are still standing and used as a visitors center/conf...

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by Eikie
Tue May 12, 2020 6:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: COVID-19 Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - May 2020
Replies: 184
Views: 26261

Re: COVID-19 Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - May 2020

Surprised by the number of KLM flights. Are they allowing PAX transferring through AMS? Or are they running Cargo transfer flights? Pax are allowed to transfer, in fact that is what most of them do. Besides that and cargo flights, they still do some repatriation flights to get Dutch citizens back h...

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by Eikie
Tue May 12, 2020 12:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Majority of LH Shareholders are Voting for Rescue Package
Replies: 625
Views: 73988

Re: Lufthansa: 10B EUR bailout - Update

Yes and KLM for example flies to airports including within Germany that are less than 4 hours by train too. That would be Düsseldorf and Köln only, maybe Frankfurt of you catch the right train. And there are increasing voice in the Netherlands to ban short flights (below a certain distance) bit no ...

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by Eikie
Sun May 10, 2020 4:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air France KLM News and Discussion Thread - 2020
Replies: 618
Views: 102797

Re: Air France KLM - Master Thread

Blerg wrote:
Is Air France completely grounded or are they operating some flights right now?

They are flying somewhat. Both "regular" acheduled flights as repatriation flights for the government.

About 5 tot 10% of the normal amount, if I recall correctly.

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by Eikie
Wed May 06, 2020 1:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Sir Tim Clark "A380 is OVER"
Replies: 135
Views: 31570

Re: Sir Tim Clark "A380 is OVER"

The Whale killed by a microscopic virus. Among other factors of course... The real whales - the 747s - are still alive as the cargo versions are busy, in part due to the virus. I've never referred to the A380 as a whale - if forced into using a nickname, I'd call it Uncle Fester. Of course it is a ...

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by Eikie
Wed May 06, 2020 8:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: COVID-19 Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - May 2020
Replies: 184
Views: 26261

Re: BA, LH and KLM surviving crisis better than others?

Surprised by the number of KLM flights. Are they allowing PAX transferring through AMS? Or are they running Cargo transfer flights? Both. Some are cargo to and pax from a destination, some are cargo or pax only. A few, but it is decreasing, are flights to being back Dutch citizens stuck abroad. Man...

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by Eikie
Wed Apr 29, 2020 7:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KL Takes Into Account Possibility of AFKL Breakup
Replies: 208
Views: 24337

Re: KL Takes Into Account Possibility of AFKL Breakup

https://www.luchtvaartnieuws.nl/nieuws/categorie/2/airlines/wie-zijn-de-aandeelhouders-van-air-france-klm The Air France-KLM holding company, in turn, owns 49 percent of KLM's shares. The other 51 percent is in Dutch hands in connection with the retention of landing rights. The Dutch state has a 5....

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by Eikie
Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ryanair Threatens EU Over State Aid to Airlines
Replies: 342
Views: 30957

Re: Ryanair Threatens EU Over State Aid to Airlines

Ryanair is a highly successful European airline that has reduced the ticket prices and revolutionized air travel in Europe. They do not want help, all they want is a fair competition, which means letting uncompetitive and fat airlines die. While constantly brushing against the law, often seeing the...

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by Eikie
Sun Apr 26, 2020 7:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa 10+ Billion EUR package: bailout or megasubsidy?
Replies: 195
Views: 21182

Re: Lufthansa 10+ Billion EUR package: bailout or megasubsidy?

Just thinking out loud. LH has operating expenses and financial expenses in the order of 35 billion a year, that's about 3 billion a month. Now with most of its operations shut down and most of their staff on temporary unemployment or in other form of temporary leave, what's their residual monthly ...

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by Eikie
Sat Apr 25, 2020 8:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa 10+ Billion EUR package: bailout or megasubsidy?
Replies: 195
Views: 21182

Re: Lufthansa 10+ Billion EUR package: bailout or megasubsidy?

To put things into perspective, AF-KLM is bound to receive a state aid of the same order of magnitude: 7 billion from the French government and 2 to 4 billion from the Dutch government from what I've read in the last few hours. I am not sure about AF, but KLM only gets loans for which the governmen...

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by Eikie
Fri Apr 17, 2020 8:22 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: easyJet to leave middle seats empty when flights resume.
Replies: 55
Views: 9607

Re: easyJet to leave middle seats empty when flights resume.

How about going back to 100% fresh air in the cabin rather than recycled. A few percent more fuel burn is better than low load factors. Unless you have evidence otherwise, both big manufacturers advise to use recirculation, as the filters do a very good job in capturing the virus and this creates a...

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by Eikie
Thu Apr 16, 2020 10:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: easyJet to leave middle seats empty when flights resume.
Replies: 55
Views: 9607

Re: easyJet to leave middle seats empty when flights resume.

All of them will/have to follow. With exceptions for families.

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by Eikie
Sun Mar 22, 2020 2:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA777 performs a 360 at 40,000ft
Replies: 11
Views: 7303

Re: BA777 performs a 360 at 40,000ft

shamrock321 wrote:
Potentially running early for its oceanic clearance time? Just a guess.

Would under the current slow traffic not be a problem. Just give them a headsup with the new time and keep going.

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by Eikie
Sat Mar 21, 2020 7:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aviation sector unpaid leaves and layoffs thread
Replies: 1501
Views: 49701

Re: Airlines unpaid leaves and layoffs thread.

KLM reduces all employees hours (and pay) to 20%. The resulting gap is partly filled in by the government, but depending on ongoing talks, either fully OR 70% of the amount you would get when unemployed (which is 1500 euro net per month in this case). So either a really big decrease in monthly pay,...

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by Eikie
Fri Mar 20, 2020 8:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Canada Laying off 5100 Flight Attendants
Replies: 7
Views: 4067

Re: Air Canada Laying off 5100 Flight Attendants

peterinlisbon wrote:
I expect this to last 3 months. Think about it - once a person has recovered they are immune to the disease.

This is not yet confirmed, as far as I know. I also read about second infections in cured patients, but that might as well be false, as I have no credible sources..

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by Eikie
Fri Mar 20, 2020 6:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Canada Laying off 5100 Flight Attendants
Replies: 7
Views: 4067

Re: Air Canada Laying off 5100 Flight Attendants

Blerg wrote:

What does this mean for Rouge's summer flying? Will there be cuts in H2 2020?

Assuming there will be any flying this summer/year....

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by Eikie
Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aviation sector unpaid leaves and layoffs thread
Replies: 1501
Views: 49701

Re: Airlines unpaid leaves and layoffs thread.

Most probably.. But what does that say for people that have to pay the morgage which is based on more than that amount? Pay the taxes based on that house, etc? And this concerns a lot more than just KLM employees, if this crisis continues for a long time, a lot of houses will be put on sale, withou...

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by Eikie
Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aviation sector unpaid leaves and layoffs thread
Replies: 1501
Views: 49701

Re: Airlines unpaid leaves and layoffs thread.

The resulting gap is partly filled in by the government, but depending on ongoing talks, either fully OR 70% of the amount you would get when unemployed (which is 1500 euro net per month in this case). 1500 euro net seems enough to survive in Netherlands. I am sure a lot of people live with less mo...

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by Eikie
Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:08 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Norwegian News and Discussion - 2020
Replies: 1064
Views: 178846

Re: DY Financial Discussion - 2020

We know this game already: profits are private but deficits are public (bailed out with national debt). At the same time we know taht national debts will never be paid off so it all boils down to being "too big to fail". Can't speak for every country, but when we rescued the Banks, we, as...

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by Eikie
Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aviation sector unpaid leaves and layoffs thread
Replies: 1501
Views: 49701

Re: Airlines unpaid leaves and layoffs thread.

KLM reduces all employees hours (and pay) to 20%. The resulting gap is partly filled in by the government, but depending on ongoing talks, either fully OR 70% of the amount you would get when unemployed (which is 1500 euro net per month in this case). So either a really big decrease in monthly pay, ...

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by Eikie
Mon Mar 16, 2020 9:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II
Replies: 1993
Views: 344909

Re: Discussion: Troubles for European Airline Groups, IAG, AFKLM, LH-Group

[quote="FluidFlow"Also France would only prop up AF but not KLM and vice versa. This could lead to different conditions for the different airlines and also lead to an end of the "unit". [/quote] Of course I can't speak for the governments in question and claims now may chance quo...

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by Eikie
Sun Mar 15, 2020 6:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II
Replies: 1993
Views: 344909

Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II

Waterbomber2 wrote:
Revelation wrote:
readytotaxi wrote:

In light of this, of all European airlines, it looks like AF (and KLM, circumstances allowing) maybe one of the best equipped to weather this crisis.

That's something I would not have thought, if true..

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by Eikie
Sun Mar 15, 2020 10:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II
Replies: 1993
Views: 344909

Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II

readytotaxi wrote:
Remember recently certain airline saying how unfair it would be to bail out Flybe, and now.......

There is a difference between bailing out a failed airline in times of good economy and bailing out an entire industry during the worst global event in decennia.

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by Eikie
Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II
Replies: 1993
Views: 344909

Re: Coronavirus Aviation Related News & Discussion Thread - March 2020 - Part II

ual763 wrote:
Wait, so let me get this straight. Delta sends out an internal memo, and then also confirmed it saying they would NOT fly to continental Europe, only UK would stand. Now, they’re still gonna fly to continental Europe?

Maybe bookable, but flown by KLM/af as they (for now) continue to fly to the US?

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by Eikie
Tue Mar 03, 2020 7:18 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Not allowed to film or take photos in flight
Replies: 135
Views: 21128

Re: Not allowed to film or take photos in flight

I flew KLM last October and no issue. I don't film the crew, I just take some random cabin photos and mostly out the window. I don't think they'll care about that. I actually haven't had an issue full stop in about five years. They don't care as long as you leave other people out of the shot, as th...

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by Eikie
Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Project Sunrise Approved - Pilot Agreement or Not
Replies: 376
Views: 57327

Re: Project Sunrise Approved - Pilot Agreement or Not

Qantas says that if it cannot reach a deal with AIPA, it will approach pilots directly and offer terms. According to a report published overnight in The Financial Review, Captains would receive an annual base salary of USD$265,400, first officers would receive USD$175,370 and second officers would ...

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by Eikie
Wed Feb 19, 2020 11:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Smell of Airline Cabins
Replies: 82
Views: 13171

Re: The Smell of Airline Cabins

I am guessing mix of all of the above.
Cleaning might be a small part, as are other chemicals as glue and paint, but mostly you smell humans.
Sweat, feet, breath, food, drink, toilets, luggage..

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by Eikie
Tue Feb 18, 2020 11:30 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KLM discrimination controversy in Korea
Replies: 100
Views: 13207

Re: KLM discrimination controversy in Korea

dtw2hyd wrote:
Flanker7 wrote:
my dear wife goes to Korea 4 to 5 times a year on KLM. Oh she's a crewmember.


So how is that supposed to prove there is no institutional discremination.

He's not saying that, he just gave a reason why he (rightly) states there were local cabin crew on Korea flights.

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by Eikie
Wed Jan 29, 2020 1:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Corona Virus outbreak - Aviation related News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1387
Views: 216578

Re: Corona Virus outbreak - Aviation related News and Discussion Thread

Definitely very interested in what AF/KL do. My company's cargo doesn't take direct flights to China usually, instead going over Europe with AF/KL on connecting flights. If they pull, I have some bad news to give my leadership, which is already in a tizzy because of that Forbes article yesterday th...

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by Eikie
Sun Jan 19, 2020 6:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KLM buys a used 777-300 ER and 2 AMS slots for $23M
Replies: 104
Views: 29835

Re: KLM buys a used 777-300 ER and 2 AMS slots for $23M

European carriers cannot start new stations without union approval, so usually they increase frequency to existing stations. From management perspective it is a easy way out rather than picking a fight with the union or give into their demands. This is a major hindrance for growth in a competitive ...

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by Eikie
Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Transavia 737 Takes Off With Gear Pin In
Replies: 35
Views: 9318

Re: TRANSAVIA BOEING LANDS WITH LOCKED WHEELS

I think you guy are missing the point. It was probably the landing gear down lock pin the was left in - so the gear could not be retracted. The would only be able to taxi straight with the steering by pass pin. Exactly. It's amazing how off the rails a simple issue gets taken - even by the "in...

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by Eikie
Sat Jan 11, 2020 3:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian bushfires -why is the "global supertanker" not used
Replies: 38
Views: 7400

Re: Australian bushfires -why is the "global supertanker" not used

The goal of the firefighters in not to stop Australia burning, it is already too late.
They can only try to save property and people, while waiting for the fires to die out.

A forest fire on this scale is not extinguishable.

A big(ger) plane might just be too much for the above strategy.

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by Eikie
Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Iran admits to accidentally shooting down Ukraine Flight 752
Replies: 2728
Views: 306228

Re: Reports of Ukrainian 737 Crash in Tehran,Iran

Don't know if this is a new development but Sky News UK just had a breaking news alert that Iran will announce the cause of the crash tomorrow. How did they determine the cause of the crash so quickly? Before the plane was on the ground Iran already declared it was because of an engine fire, so the...

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by Eikie
Fri Jan 10, 2020 3:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LY 777 Diversion Halifax
Replies: 16
Views: 4734

Re: LY 777 Diversion Halifax

entdoc wrote:
Landed about 2300. Guess they could leave 2300 Saturday night. Though the shabbat is over maybe 1730-1800.

If Israëli crew fly under European rules, they need far less than 24 hrs rest. They can fly it easily home.

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by Eikie
Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Iran admits to accidentally shooting down Ukraine Flight 752
Replies: 2728
Views: 306228

Re: Reports of Ukrainian 737 Crash in Tehran,Iran

If they hold back on recorders, I think the west will stick to their own conclusions, and we know what they are right now. These demands for the CVR FDR to be handed over have to stop. Under international agreement (which includes the USA) the investigation is performed by the country where the acc...

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by Eikie
Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:24 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Iran admits to accidentally shooting down Ukraine Flight 752
Replies: 2728
Views: 306228

Re: Reports of Ukrainian 737 Crash in Tehran,Iran

1) Let's say the first missile strike was when the transponder stopped - at this point the plane had already started to deviate from its intended course - why didn't the pilots contact ATC to request clearance to land at the airport, or to request clearance to do anything? If the radio had failed a...

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by Eikie
Thu Jan 09, 2020 6:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Iran admits to accidentally shooting down Ukraine Flight 752
Replies: 2728
Views: 306228

Re: Reports of Ukrainian 737 Crash in Tehran,Iran

I've seen photos of what looks like a vertical stabilizer with logo LAYING FLAT on the ground and also seeing photos of a burnt fuselage wedged between buildings with the vertical stabilizer still attached...or are both pieces? Which is it? The picture you are talking about (buildings/stabilizer) i...

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by Eikie
Thu Jan 09, 2020 11:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Iran admits to accidentally shooting down Ukraine Flight 752
Replies: 2728
Views: 306228

Re: Reports of Ukrainian 737 Crash in Tehran,Iran

I think what most people are having trouble with is the fact if it was an engine fire or engine failure how did it escalate so fast that essentially within 1 minute it falls from the sky? This would be a first in commercial aviation, of course just because somethings never happened doesn't mean it ...

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by Eikie
Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Iran admits to accidentally shooting down Ukraine Flight 752
Replies: 2728
Views: 306228

Re: Reports of Ukrainian 737 Crash in Tehran,Iran

[photoid][/photoid] If someone hit the plane mistakenly for me it Is more likely to be USA rather than Iran. Iranians should know better that the airport Is close, the plane was following a normal route after taking off....Anyway I strongly believe it Is a failure or even a terrorist attack rather ...

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by Eikie
Mon Dec 30, 2019 7:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Kansas basketball Swift Air charter loses an engine in-flight 12/29
Replies: 14
Views: 5419

Re: Kansas basketball Swift Air charter loses an engine in-flight 12/29

An engine failure is quite different from losing an engine..

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by Eikie
Mon Dec 23, 2019 12:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Turbulence and injuries
Replies: 14
Views: 3454

Re: Turbulence and injuries

I am not sure what you mean with hurricane hunter shows, but if you are talking about research planes entering hurricanes and such, that is totally different than "normal" (heavy) turbulence. A hurricane is primarily horizontal windshear and while that creates quote some turbulence, it's m...

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by Eikie
Fri Nov 29, 2019 3:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KL685 AMS-MEX diverted because volcano and horses?
Replies: 53
Views: 9521

Re: KL685 AMS-MEX diverted because volcano and horses?

I do know it is rather difficult to arrange the paperwork (veterinarian, customs, etc) for 28 horses if you divert to another country than planned. Besides that, horses do require different lodging than people and arranging that on short term is also challenging. I do also know they once diverted to...

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by Eikie
Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:19 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Taxiing with 1 engine
Replies: 38
Views: 3689

Re: Taxiing with 1 engine

Yes, this is common among U.S. majors. I am also wondering - are economic advantages of this even noticeable? It seems to put more wear on one engine vs the other. The wear on the other engine is minimal at best. Taxiing is most often done with both engines on idle (minimum thrust) and even then th...

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by Eikie
Tue Nov 26, 2019 6:01 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Serious fume event on BA A320 - both pilots partially incapacitated
Replies: 82
Views: 22152

Re: Serious fume event on BA A320 - both pilots partially incapacitated

Fume events happen on virtually every flight I'm on, on any aircraft type, when an engine is started during pushback and the aircraft is pushed through the resulting cloud of oily cold-start exhaust. I've experienced it on Embraers, MDs, 737s, A320s, 757s, 767s, and an A330. It's really nasty and o...

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by Eikie
Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KLM CEO: betting on sustainable aviation
Replies: 28
Views: 3260

Re: KLM CEO: betting on sustainable aviation

Didn’t KLM cut a Brussels frequency in the name of the environment, wait two weeks, then announce austin with the slot? The timing may be off for that, but it felt that way. Seems like an odd way to help the environment. You can't expect an airline to stop flying out of environment concerns, it is ...

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by Eikie
Thu Nov 14, 2019 5:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KLM CEO: betting on sustainable aviation
Replies: 28
Views: 3260

Re: KLM CEO: betting on sustainable aviation

Then again they are going to build a full size test track in the near future, Hardt Hyperloop is one of the leading innovators in that business and they are centred in Delft. One of the talked option is a test track in Flevoland combining it with a new LEY-AMS link, the investment money is already ...

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by Eikie
Tue Nov 05, 2019 1:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ryanair CEO claims that Norwegian will go bankrupt
Replies: 62
Views: 14016

Re: Ryanair CEO claims that Norwegian will go bankrupt

MOL loves to talk about Norwegian, which may well just be another way to erode confidence in them to either buy parts of their business cheaply or see them disappear completely, opening up more opportunities for them to open. I don’t think it’s professional to offer such opinions in his position ab...

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by Eikie
Wed Oct 02, 2019 12:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Norwegian closes MAD base; cancels ARN, CPH, CTA, DBV, KEF, LPA, PMI, TFN.
Replies: 69
Views: 19379

Re: Norwegian closes MAD base; cancels ARN, CPH, CTA, DBV, KEF, LPA, PMI, TFN.

Heres hoping this is just the next step in their eventual exit from the marketplace. Nobody is forcing people to fly (*OR WORK*) with them. Numbers show not enough people are willing to fly with them, or, at least, not for prices norwegian needs to stay afloat without resorting to begging extended ...

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by Eikie
Sun Sep 29, 2019 12:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Norwegian closes MAD base; cancels ARN, CPH, CTA, DBV, KEF, LPA, PMI, TFN.
Replies: 69
Views: 19379

Re: Norwegian closes MAD base; cancels ARN, CPH, CTA, DBV, KEF, LPA, PMI, TFN.

Heres hoping this is just the next step in their eventual exit from the marketplace. Why come up with such a puerile comment? Let me surmise...you’re either a troll or you’re an arch capitalist who dislikes upstart airlines and whose idea of “free” markets is a lack of competition, with the result ...

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by Eikie
Mon Sep 09, 2019 5:43 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Airlines Flight 2309
Replies: 27
Views: 6061

Re: Delta Airlines Flight 2309

I guess because we were very low to the ground and the bank angle was about 50-60 degrees each time. You were no where close to 50-60 degrees! You were 30 degrees at most. Airbus FBW airplanes won’t even allow you to bank beyond a certain limit. That is true, however that limit is 67 degrees. If yo...

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