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by wernerga3
Thu May 09, 2019 8:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #5 | Final Era: One Last Effort at Capturing the Market by Following Trends (1987-1991)
Replies: 33
Views: 8771

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #5 | Final Era: One Last Effort at Capturing the Market by Following Trends (1987-1991)

Loved this series! I was a child in this era, so it is great to learn the history of an industry I love. I think it would be fascinating to read something similar, like the history of the L-1011 at DL or the 777or 747 at UA. I was thinking of doing a project on all of the original 747 order airline...

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by wernerga3
Thu May 09, 2019 6:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Adds New Domestic/Mexico/Caribbean Routes
Replies: 87
Views: 16356

Re: American Airlines Adds New Domestic/Mexico/Caribbean Routes

WOW- JFK-RIC is gonna be huge for all the rich kids/parents at UofR.

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by wernerga3
Thu May 09, 2019 3:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What will replace United's 767’s
Replies: 46
Views: 10277

Re: What will replace United's 767’s

Many are saying that they will hold out for the 797. But the 797 EIS is 2025 minimum and won’t achieve a significant production rate until 27/28, (that’s without delays). Meaning that the 76’s will have to work roughly another 10 years and with an average age of the 767 at united of 22 years, it me...

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by wernerga3
Thu May 09, 2019 3:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Admits It Has No Brand Purpose
Replies: 104
Views: 24151

Re: American Airlines Admits It Has No Brand Purpose

For years and years, we've been hearing the oft-repeated mantra that passengers don't care at all about service, just the price. And as such, airlines could cut back on service (and thus cost) to their glee because it would just mean greater profits. I think AA is the first clear example that this ...

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by wernerga3
Thu May 09, 2019 1:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 767: Fuselage size always limited profitability??
Replies: 86
Views: 11341

Re: Boeing 767: Fuselage size always limited profitability??

I always thought it was a bit narrow considering the first class layouts. When the initial deliveries occurred (United was first, and lets not forget DL's project 767 where the employees paid for the plane..) the plane was not ETOPS certified, so it was put into domestic use. AA flew them out of ORD...

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by wernerga3
Thu May 09, 2019 1:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Admits It Has No Brand Purpose
Replies: 104
Views: 24151

Re: American Airlines Admits It Has No Brand Purpose

My .02 cents: Growing up, all I flew was AA. My parents always flew AA, so I succumbed to following my family's trend. There was this aura of AA being the new Pan Am- It was in my family's eyes: the airline representing the US. When I went off to college, and started grabbing my own flights, that is...

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by wernerga3
Thu May 09, 2019 1:34 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: How did O2 work on early 747 upper decks
Replies: 27
Views: 5174

Re: How did O2 work on early 747 upper decks

I have no technical knowledge of this whatsoever but I have to believe there were masks, it would be too confusing in an emergency for some sort of manual system to be hooked up. I am going to guess that what you see in the recessed area of the panel are the typical PSU items like gaspers (vents), ...

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by wernerga3
Wed May 08, 2019 10:54 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: How did O2 work on early 747 upper decks
Replies: 27
Views: 5174

Re: How did O2 work on early 747 upper decks

What's a blow out panel? In this case, it’s a section of the wall panel that is designed to fail in case the area behind it gets pressurized due to some kind of duct leak. It a) provides a visual indication of failure, and b) minimizes the risk of further damage behind the panel. That said, I’m not...

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by wernerga3
Wed May 08, 2019 6:23 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: How did O2 work on early 747 upper decks
Replies: 27
Views: 5174

Re: How did O2 work on early 747 upper decks

Look at the PSU in the upper-right corner of the image. There’s what appears to be a quarter inch or so hole. That’s where a mechanic would insert a tool...a swizzle stick worked just fine...to open the door and access the masks. Looking at it a little closer, there is another hole, looks like a di...

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by wernerga3
Wed May 08, 2019 6:22 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: How did O2 work on early 747 upper decks
Replies: 27
Views: 5174

Re: How did O2 work on early 747 upper decks

Thanks guys- NOW I see it! And it makes sense that there would be 3 in each one, because with 6 boxes (3 on either side), that would make 18 masks- 16 passengers and 2 FAs.

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by wernerga3
Wed May 08, 2019 5:51 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: How did O2 work on early 747 upper decks
Replies: 27
Views: 5174

Re: How did O2 work on early 747 upper decks

There are masks. If you look closely at the PSU in the first picture, you’ll see a faint outline of a door. There were 3(?) masks behind the door. The little hole you see, allowed maintenance to access the masks. You're talking about this hole?- There is one of them on either side of the deck https...

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by wernerga3
Wed May 08, 2019 2:45 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: How did O2 work on early 747 upper decks
Replies: 27
Views: 5174

Re: How did O2 work on early 747 upper decks

I might add that if you look closely at the two pictures, the first one (United) has a placard mounted on the ceiling (that I can't make out), and the second one (SAS) is missing the placard. I noticed that when I was researching, the intl airlines did not have the placard, but the US airlines did.....

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by wernerga3
Wed May 08, 2019 2:17 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: How did O2 work on early 747 upper decks
Replies: 27
Views: 5174

Re: How did O2 work on early 747 upper decks

I have no technical knowledge of this whatsoever but I have to believe there were masks, it would be too confusing in an emergency for some sort of manual system to be hooked up. I am going to guess that what you see in the recessed area of the panel are the typical PSU items like gaspers (vents), ...

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by wernerga3
Wed May 08, 2019 1:46 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: How did O2 work on early 747 upper decks
Replies: 27
Views: 5174

How did O2 work on early 747 upper decks

I have been researching like crazy for my next project. One of the things I am curious about is how the emergency o2 system worked on the upper deck lounges of early 747s. They all seem to feature the same ceiling design, but no information about it. It appears there are O2 hookup valves above each ...

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by wernerga3
Tue May 07, 2019 7:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Denver hub 1990s?
Replies: 89
Views: 14158

Re: United Denver hub 1990s?

The Denver hub in the 1990s was amazing on United!! I got to fly 747s, DC10s, and 767s all over the place. The service and customer care was great back then on United. Now they seem to have taken a more CO stance to domestic flying out of DEN and it is mostly 737s. Very few wide bodies. It is crazy...

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by wernerga3
Fri May 03, 2019 7:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Starts DEN - FRA today (5/2)
Replies: 17
Views: 4299

Re: United Starts DEN - FRA today (5/2)

Well atleast they both now have a similar J products...you're just paying for a different level of service. If i wanted to book a J/Y seat, i'd go with UA since its more comfortable being on the 788. For you avgeeks, the 748 upper deck is a win!!! LH flies the 744 out of DEN not the 748. It was rec...

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by wernerga3
Fri May 03, 2019 4:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Unravel the A350-900 lower-range variants: Domestic & Regional
Replies: 42
Views: 9542

Re: Unravel the A350-900 lower-range variants: Domestic & Regional

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I recently took a Delta A359 domestically (LAX-ATL). I imagine this was the "Vanilla" variant?

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by wernerga3
Thu May 02, 2019 8:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #5 | Final Era: One Last Effort at Capturing the Market by Following Trends (1987-1991)
Replies: 33
Views: 8771

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #5 | Final Era: One Last Effort at Capturing the Market by Following Trends (1987-1991)

THANK YOU! So per that sheet, the 122 (Ex-UA) planes were the ones in the South American Config: N4703U Clipper Nautilus N4704U Clipper Belle of The Sea N4710U Clipper Sea Lark N4711U Clipper Witch of The Wave N4712U Clipper Tradewind Having said that, this youtube video clearly shows a 100 (three ...

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by wernerga3
Thu May 02, 2019 7:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #5 | Final Era: One Last Effort at Capturing the Market by Following Trends (1987-1991)
Replies: 33
Views: 8771

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #5 | Final Era: One Last Effort at Capturing the Market by Following Trends (1987-1991)

SmithAir747 wrote:
What configuration and cabin era was N739PA (Clipper Maid of the Seas) in at the time of the ill-fated PA103 flight? (It still had the blue cheatline and black Pan Am titles when it crashed.)

SmithAir747


It was in the standard 100 configuration

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by wernerga3
Thu May 02, 2019 6:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #5 | Final Era: One Last Effort at Capturing the Market by Following Trends (1987-1991)
Replies: 33
Views: 8771

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #5 | Final Era: One Last Effort at Capturing the Market by Following Trends (1987-1991)

https://merrick.library.miami.edu/utils/ajaxhelper/?CISOROOT=asm0341&CISOPTR=104209&action=2&DMSCALE=30&DMWIDTH=512&DMHEIGHT=512&DMX=0&DMY=0&DMTEXT=747-212&DMROTATE=0 THANK YOU! So per that sheet, the 122 (Ex-UA) planes were the ones in the South American Config:...

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by wernerga3
Thu May 02, 2019 6:02 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: United Pass Plus Question- What about Delta/AA?
Replies: 1
Views: 400

United Pass Plus Question- What about Delta/AA?

I noticed United offers the Pass Plus which is for personal use now as well (was primarily for businesses in the past). The buy-in is $25,000 and with that, you get that amount in airline credit, but the tickets come at a discounted rate when you go to purchase. You also get a ton of benefits in add...

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by wernerga3
Thu May 02, 2019 5:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #5 | Final Era: One Last Effort at Capturing the Market by Following Trends (1987-1991)
Replies: 33
Views: 8771

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #5 | Final Era: One Last Effort at Capturing the Market by Following Trends (1987-1991)

This may be true- but very illogical if so. If it was named after a South American city and primarily served it, I find it extremely hard to believe that the plane would be in a standard config as they were trying to pull additional first/clipper revenue out of these S.A. flights- similar to what t...

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by wernerga3
Thu May 02, 2019 5:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #5 | Final Era: One Last Effort at Capturing the Market by Following Trends (1987-1991)
Replies: 33
Views: 8771

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #5 | Final Era: One Last Effort at Capturing the Market by Following Trends (1987-1991)

A great finale to an excellent series of articles! Well done on all your research, that was one mammoth effort all round. Really pleased you chose to share all of these on here with us. I've enjoyed the journey and learned a lot. Fantastic work! Thank you- It is nice to see someone who appreciates ...

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by wernerga3
Thu May 02, 2019 3:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #5 | Final Era: One Last Effort at Capturing the Market by Following Trends (1987-1991)
Replies: 33
Views: 8771

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #5 | Final Era: One Last Effort at Capturing the Market by Following Trends (1987-1991)

As far as I know... Just because a 747-200 was used to/within South America, does not necessarily mandate it served with the "South American" configuration. This may be true- but very illogical if so. If it was named after a South American city and primarily served it, I find it extremely...

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by wernerga3
Thu May 02, 2019 3:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #5 | Final Era: One Last Effort at Capturing the Market by Following Trends (1987-1991)
Replies: 33
Views: 8771

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #5 | Final Era: One Last Effort at Capturing the Market by Following Trends (1987-1991)

Pan Am had identified that the South American market yielded some of the highest revenue paying passengers, who were more willing to pay for first over clipper class. While there were a few 747-100s which were in this configuration, it was primarily the 747-200, so I am going to refer to the South ...

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by wernerga3
Thu May 02, 2019 1:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Articles- Introduction of Concept
Replies: 42
Views: 8641

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Articles- Introduction of Concept

Sounds great, let it fly Sounds really cool! Please post Sounds great, I am definitely interested and look forward to seeing your articles. I'm most curious in an article on the final era of the Pan Am 747: 1987 to 1991. I look forward to the information on the pre-launch & launch era. I am sur...

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by wernerga3
Thu May 02, 2019 1:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #1 | Pre-Production Era: An Evolving Mock-Up Used to Create Hype (1966-1970)
Replies: 39
Views: 9542

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #1 | Pre-Production Era: An Evolving Mock-Up Used to Create Hype (1966-1970)

Thank you for the great article, looking forward for the next ones! Thank you for putting such a huge effort into this project as it is truly an education for all of us. Thank you for this, and I look forward to future posts! Very pleased to have seen this historical and very informational post, ch...

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by wernerga3
Thu May 02, 2019 1:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #2 | Launch Era: An Austere Approach to a Well-Received Behemoth (1970-1976)
Replies: 41
Views: 9787

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #2 | Launch Era: An Austere Approach to a Well-Received Behemoth (1970-1976)

Wow. What an amazing article. THANK YOU! Priceless contribution!!!!! well done! Fantastic article and photos, thank you so much for your work!! Once again, thank you for this amazing article. Looking forward to the early 1980s, when I flew extensively on Pan Am's 747s. What a super article! Thank y...

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by wernerga3
Thu May 02, 2019 1:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #3 | Bi-Centennial Era: The New 747-SP Brings a Patriotic Look at Heritage (1976-1984)
Replies: 38
Views: 14450

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #3 | Bi-Centennial Era: The New 747-SP Brings a Patriotic Look at Heritage (1976-1984)

Thank you so much for these articles, I can't wait for the next one! Very good stuff. Very good! Incredible detail. Time machine. Great article! I really loved reading it. Thanks Awesome articles. Another excellent article, thank you! Thank you again for such an elaborate report! #3 is a great arti...

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by wernerga3
Thu May 02, 2019 1:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #4 | Refresh Era: Even During Financial Difficulties, You Can Still Look Good (1984-1987)
Replies: 23
Views: 5916

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #4 | Refresh Era: Even During Financial Difficulties, You Can Still Look Good (1984-198

The evolution is truly something remarkable to see when so well illustrated Thanks so much for your excellent work! Great job on Article # 4 Thanks for sharing! Thank you, another great one! Thank you for posting all this information What a great series! It's a shame it's coming to an end, but I'm ...

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by wernerga3
Thu May 02, 2019 1:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #5 | Final Era: One Last Effort at Capturing the Market by Following Trends (1987-1991)
Replies: 33
Views: 8771

Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #5 | Final Era: One Last Effort at Capturing the Market by Following Trends (1987-1991)

Hi fellow forum members. As stated, I will be posting once a week for five weeks with each subsequent era article. This is the fifth, and final article of five. I have cleared these articles with the moderators, and have created a separate thread which introduced the topic here: https://www.airliner...

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by wernerga3
Thu May 02, 2019 1:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why did UA cancel SEA-NRT?
Replies: 48
Views: 7280

Re: Why did UA cancel SEA-NRT?

UA began operating SEA-NRT in 1983; after it acquired PA's Pacific network, in a contested decision, the DOT awarded the route to CO. CO operated it for just over two years (1989-1991); AA acquired the route from CO during its 1990 bankruptcy, began flying it in 1991 and discontinued it in late 200...

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by wernerga3
Wed May 01, 2019 1:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Articles- Introduction of Concept
Replies: 42
Views: 8641

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Articles- Introduction of Concept

In anticipation of the final article dropping tomorrow, I wanted to give those who have not seen these threads a chance to catch up. Bump!

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by wernerga3
Wed May 01, 2019 1:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #1 | Pre-Production Era: An Evolving Mock-Up Used to Create Hype (1966-1970)
Replies: 39
Views: 9542

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #1 | Pre-Production Era: An Evolving Mock-Up Used to Create Hype (1966-1970)

In anticipation of the final article dropping tomorrow, I wanted to give those who have not seen these threads a chance to catch up. Bump!

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by wernerga3
Wed May 01, 2019 1:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #2 | Launch Era: An Austere Approach to a Well-Received Behemoth (1970-1976)
Replies: 41
Views: 9787

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #2 | Launch Era: An Austere Approach to a Well-Received Behemoth (1970-1976)

In anticipation of the final article dropping tomorrow, I wanted to give those who have not seen these threads a chance to catch up. Bump!

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by wernerga3
Wed May 01, 2019 1:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #3 | Bi-Centennial Era: The New 747-SP Brings a Patriotic Look at Heritage (1976-1984)
Replies: 38
Views: 14450

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #3 | Bi-Centennial Era: The New 747-SP Brings a Patriotic Look at Heritage (1976-1984)

In anticipation of the final article dropping tomorrow, I wanted to give those who have not seen these threads a chance to catch up. Bump!

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by wernerga3
Wed May 01, 2019 1:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #4 | Refresh Era: Even During Financial Difficulties, You Can Still Look Good (1984-1987)
Replies: 23
Views: 5916

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #4 | Refresh Era: Even During Financial Difficulties, You Can Still Look Good (1984-198

In anticipation of the final article dropping tomorrow, I wanted to give those who have not seen these threads a chance to catch up. Bump!

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by wernerga3
Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:52 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Could AAs San Juan (SJU) Survived with more fuel efficient aircraft?
Replies: 23
Views: 5050

Re: Could AAs San Juan (SJU) Survived with more fuel efficient aircraft?

I recall there was a bad hurricane one year in the 90s (1996?) when I was in SXM. Normally I took the AA 757 from SXM-JFK direct, but I remember AA called me and offered me an evacuation flight a few days earlier. They didn't have any direct flights available given the chaos, so they put me on an A3...

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by wernerga3
Fri Apr 26, 2019 4:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #2 | Launch Era: An Austere Approach to a Well-Received Behemoth (1970-1976)
Replies: 41
Views: 9787

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #2 | Launch Era: An Austere Approach to a Well-Received Behemoth (1970-1976)

For those who are as nerdy as me, I would like to post an edit if you will allow me. It never ceases to amaze me, with the amount of research I have done, to keep finding more pieces to the story. This one was in the deeeeeeeep archives, and these photos were scanned in (only ones I know of). From 1...

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by wernerga3
Fri Apr 26, 2019 2:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #4 | Refresh Era: Even During Financial Difficulties, You Can Still Look Good (1984-1987)
Replies: 23
Views: 5916

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #4 | Refresh Era: Even During Financial Difficulties, You Can Still Look Good (1984-198

From the video someone posted in an earlier article (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImWVArBrY_A) you can see the disembarkation from a PA 747-200 with a short insight of Clipper Class in the B-Zone. If 16 Clipper Class seats are accommodated in the upper deck (as the South America Config [B747-122...

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by wernerga3
Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #4 | Refresh Era: Even During Financial Difficulties, You Can Still Look Good (1984-1987)
Replies: 23
Views: 5916

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #4 | Refresh Era: Even During Financial Difficulties, You Can Still Look Good (1984-198

I do have a question about the upper deck galley and the seating layout in Clipper Class of the 747-212B which PA operated. According to your article, the 747-200 had 16 upper deck seats (Clipper Class) whereas the 747-100 had only 14 due to the galley layout and upper deck length. The final config...

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by wernerga3
Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #4 | Refresh Era: Even During Financial Difficulties, You Can Still Look Good (1984-1987)
Replies: 23
Views: 5916

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #4 | Refresh Era: Even During Financial Difficulties, You Can Still Look Good (1984-198

In First the final leather and sheepskin and in Clipper brown herringbone were both launched in 1986. So the designs shown here didn't quite last until 1987 as I understand it (but I stand to be corrected). I believe this change coincided with the opening of a "First & Clipper Class Termin...

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by wernerga3
Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #3 | Bi-Centennial Era: The New 747-SP Brings a Patriotic Look at Heritage (1976-1984)
Replies: 38
Views: 14450

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #3 | Bi-Centennial Era: The New 747-SP Brings a Patriotic Look at Heritage (1976-1984)

I don't want to get off topic, but I was curious of the opinion of those of use who were able to experience the 747s when they were first in service. AA, CO, DL, PA, TW, BN, UA. I'm not including EA because they leased from PA and i imagine they kept the PA interior. Who do you think had the most b...

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by wernerga3
Thu Apr 25, 2019 10:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #4 | Refresh Era: Even During Financial Difficulties, You Can Still Look Good (1984-1987)
Replies: 23
Views: 5916

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #4 | Refresh Era: Even During Financial Difficulties, You Can Still Look Good (1984-198

In First the final leather and sheepskin and in Clipper brown herringbone were both launched in 1986. So the designs shown here didn't quite last until 1987 as I understand it (but I stand to be corrected). I believe this change coincided with the opening of a "First & Clipper Class Termin...

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by wernerga3
Thu Apr 25, 2019 10:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #2 | Launch Era: An Austere Approach to a Well-Received Behemoth (1970-1976)
Replies: 41
Views: 9787

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #2 | Launch Era: An Austere Approach to a Well-Received Behemoth (1970-1976)

Another question I am sure you know the answer to! In the photo of the 707 next to the 747, the 70 has PAN AMERICAN and the 74 has PAN AM. Was the 747 purchase the beginning of the shorter name? I have so much to live up to, so here goes- Indeed the 747 was the beginning of the shortened livery. Ch...

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by wernerga3
Thu Apr 25, 2019 8:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #2 | Launch Era: An Austere Approach to a Well-Received Behemoth (1970-1976)
Replies: 41
Views: 9787

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #2 | Launch Era: An Austere Approach to a Well-Received Behemoth (1970-1976)

dmstorm22 wrote:
This is amazing. As someone way too young to even really remember Pan Am, let alone the magic of the first 747, this is truly wonderful.

Thanks.


If you like this article, make sure to check out the others in the set of five! This is number two of five.

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by wernerga3
Thu Apr 25, 2019 8:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #4 | Refresh Era: Even During Financial Difficulties, You Can Still Look Good (1984-1987)
Replies: 23
Views: 5916

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #4 | Refresh Era: Even During Financial Difficulties, You Can Still Look Good (1984-198

Pan Am had a lot of debt during this time. Ironically, their most well-kept interiors were the final chapter before shutdown where they had the all blue and white dotted interiors on most of the fleet. That would be blue and gold dotted (for coach). This will all be revealed in the final article ne...

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by wernerga3
Thu Apr 25, 2019 5:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #4 | Refresh Era: Even During Financial Difficulties, You Can Still Look Good (1984-1987)
Replies: 23
Views: 5916

Re: Pan Am 747 Cabin Era Article #4 | Refresh Era: Even During Financial Difficulties, You Can Still Look Good (1984-198

I remember all the blue, red and gold palettes on the 747s and 727s when I was a kid, I seem to recall on the 747s C was red and gold, D was blue E was blue and red... this would have been in the 83-86 time frame. Check out the previous era's article for that color pallet information: https://www.a...

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