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by 1989worstyear
Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United orders 50 A321 XLR, defers A350's to 2027
Replies: 481
Views: 87728

Re: United orders 50 A321 XLR

I just don't see Boeing going ahead with the NMA with this news. The NMA market is there, but fairly limited. The A321XLR is the 757 replacement on TATL markets and perhaps some interior-US to Hawaii markets (e.g. DEN). The 737-MAX10 will be the 757 replacement on US transcons. The 787 has emerged ...

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by 1989worstyear
Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United orders 50 A321 XLR, defers A350's to 2027
Replies: 481
Views: 87728

Re: Sources: United ordering 50 A321 XLR

Company intranet says 45 A350-900 remain on the books for 2027. The delay makes a lot more sense to me...all those 77E's just getting Polaris will be able to use them for 7-9 years and then get retired. Good move overall for UA. Totally agree. Maybe this is a Delta 787 situation but I think it's li...

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by 1989worstyear
Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United orders 50 A321 XLR, defers A350's to 2027
Replies: 481
Views: 87728

Re: United orders 50 A321 XLR

I just don't see Boeing going ahead with the NMA with this news. The NMA market is there, but fairly limited. The A321XLR is the 757 replacement on TATL markets and perhaps some interior-US to Hawaii markets (e.g. DEN). The 737-MAX10 will be the 757 replacement on US transcons. The 787 has emerged ...

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by 1989worstyear
Wed Dec 04, 2019 12:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United orders 50 A321 XLR, defers A350's to 2027
Replies: 481
Views: 87728

Re: Sources: United ordering 50 A321 XLR

It's official: https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/united-airlines-sets-a-course-for-the-future-with-order-of-50-airbus-a321xlr-aircraft-300968734.html A350s deferred until 2027 to better fit operational needs. They just can't bring themselves to cancel them. :rotfl: Why 5+ years away from del...

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by 1989worstyear
Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United orders 50 A321 XLR, defers A350's to 2027
Replies: 481
Views: 87728

Re: Sources: United ordering 50 A321 XLR

downdata wrote:
Possible conversion of the A359 was mentioned on leeham, which is probably what got UA over the line. In anycase, a win for A as this opens the door for followup orders of the neo.


It makes me wonder what will replace the 77E's and 753's in the mid 20's.

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by 1989worstyear
Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Evacuation Slide Falls from DL Flight
Replies: 36
Views: 10500

Re: Evacuation Slide Falls from DL Flight

I do find it funny how the BA A320 fume event does not get a peep in the media but this is blowing up. If this happened on a 29 year old A320 or 20 year old 772 would you have said this? Your comment has nothing to do with the topic. Why involve Airbus in this? Some people need to make everything a...

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by 1989worstyear
Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:27 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Anti-LGBT Priest Defrocked for Sexually Harassing Young Men in His Church
Replies: 18
Views: 1475

Re: Anti-LGBT Priest Defrocked for Sexually Harassing Young Men in His Church

I wonder if they could charge him with anything.

How old were the guys involved? I'm pretty sure 16+ is legal is FL.

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by 1989worstyear
Mon Dec 02, 2019 11:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Evacuation Slide Falls from DL Flight
Replies: 36
Views: 10500

Re: Evacuation Slide Falls from DL Flight

I would hope that the pilots would get a cockpit indicator of some sort. Deltas 757/767 fleet is getting a bit tired. I do find it funny how the BA A320 fume event does not get a peep in the media but this is blowing up. If this happened on a 29 year old A320 or 20 year old 772 would you have said ...

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by 1989worstyear
Mon Dec 02, 2019 9:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Evacuation Slide Falls from DL Flight
Replies: 36
Views: 10500

Re: Evacuation Slide Falls from DL Flight

Makes sense it's the wing slide. If it was a door, pilots would have gotten a door indication in addition to hearing a bang. I would hope that the pilots would get a cockpit indicator of some sort. Deltas 757/767 fleet is getting a bit tired. I do find it funny how the BA A320 fume event does not g...

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by 1989worstyear
Sun Dec 01, 2019 9:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why not this for Boeing's line up?
Replies: 100
Views: 16952

Re: Why not this for Boeing's line up?

What if the middle-aged woman is morbidly obese and the mother has a body like Jane Fonda? No, in the discussed case the woman is a fast-charging athlete, while her mother relies on software to make her body work with the new heart without tipping over and falling on the ground. A fast-charging ath...

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by 1989worstyear
Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Crime and Corruption (add incompetence) At Boeing
Replies: 90
Views: 14174

Re: Crime and Corruption (add incompetence) At Boeing

A victim? Say what? ...a victim of a very common mentality in modern corporate America: short term profit and shareholder value above all else. Best not to have airliners made by American corporates then. Going fast a long way above the ground is inherently risky to life and the people designing an...

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by 1989worstyear
Tue Nov 26, 2019 6:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Crime and Corruption (add incompetence) At Boeing
Replies: 90
Views: 14174

Re: Crime and Corruption (add incompetence) At Boeing

oschkosch wrote:
PM wrote:
Can't argue with any of this. But in a sense, Boeing is a victim of something even bigger.


A victim? Say what?


...a victim of a very common mentality in modern corporate America: short term profit and shareholder value above all else.

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by 1989worstyear
Wed Nov 20, 2019 1:16 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Aircraft scrapping
Replies: 5
Views: 810

Re: Aircraft scrapping

Can anyone tell me what are the main factors in the scrapping of a modern airliner today? I understand there is the airframe hours/cycles, pending D checks etc...What are the main airline finance reasons for scrapping? I find it so hard to see A320's, 777's and 9V-SKA and 9V-SKC waiting to be crush...

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by 1989worstyear
Wed Nov 20, 2019 1:35 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: 14yo kills First-Grader Shoots His Dad 3x in the Head..Life in Prison?
Replies: 55
Views: 2452

Re: 14yo kills First-Grader Shoots His Dad 3x in the Head..Life in Prison?

Blah blah blah you are so woke it’s not funny. There are certain kinds of people who are garbage, rapists, child sex offenders and murderers, society is better off without them. It’s a pretty easy premise you commit those kinds of crimes and you’re either going away for life or you lose your life, ...

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by 1989worstyear
Tue Nov 19, 2019 8:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Engine efficiency-what are the limits?
Replies: 64
Views: 8322

Re: Engine efficiency-what are the limits?

Are you saying that the first A320-200 built and the newest one both have the same fuel efficiency? Yes, for the CEO. One gets tired of summing up what Airbus has done to the A320 since the first -200. They've made some updates, but they're no different from any other 25+ year old type like the 763...

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by 1989worstyear
Tue Nov 19, 2019 7:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Engine efficiency-what are the limits?
Replies: 64
Views: 8322

Re: Engine efficiency-what are the limits?

Are you saying that the first A320-200 built and the newest one both have the same fuel efficiency? Yes, for the CEO. Haven't there been continual improvements such as SETWA, sharklets, lighter galley and seat hardware, engine PIPs, trim system software tweaks, and so on? Those can be retrofitted o...

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by 1989worstyear
Tue Nov 19, 2019 6:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Engine efficiency-what are the limits?
Replies: 64
Views: 8322

Re: Engine efficiency-what are the limits?

Engine efficiency and aircraft efficiency combined are improving about 1.25% per year. Material changes are the big breakthrough and CMCs are the obvious change. I see new technology being proposed and some taking a long time to perfect. Test engines were equiped with CMC blades in 1996 and the fir...

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by 1989worstyear
Tue Nov 19, 2019 5:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Engine efficiency-what are the limits?
Replies: 64
Views: 8322

Re: Engine efficiency-what are the limits?

The problem was not enough technology development due to low oil prices. When peak oil mania hit, the price skyrocketed and technology was rushed. New tech: 3.5:1 gearbox, a few percent reduction in fuel burn CMCs turbine inlet vanes (fixed), about 3% drop in fuel burn. In GE9x 2nd row high turbine...

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by 1989worstyear
Mon Nov 18, 2019 4:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended
Replies: 5670
Views: 772745

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019

There is a fine line between safe and slow and obsolete. Obsolete has no functional meaning as far as aviation is concerned. What matters is that the job is done reliably and predictably. What obsolete means in the rest of the world is that there are better/faster/more powerful/cheaper alternatives...

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by 1989worstyear
Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A320 family overtakes 737 family in total orders
Replies: 114
Views: 17355

Re: A320 family overtakes 737 family in total orders

The business case for Airbus to do a clean sheet replacement of the A320 is much less compelling. What can they do to improve? CFRP technology does not give the benefits on a narrowbody that it does on a wide body, at least at this point. Boeing will probably use it on the NSA, and we will see what...

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by 1989worstyear
Sat Nov 16, 2019 4:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A320 family overtakes 737 family in total orders
Replies: 114
Views: 17355

Re: A320 family overtakes 737 family in total orders

I am a massive fan of the A320, now that is out of the way. I live in Cape Town and work in Johannesburg, I commute between the two cities weekly. Except for SAA all our domestic airlines operate the 737-800 which is what I fly most of the time. I have plenty of respect for the aircraft, it is a re...

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by 1989worstyear
Sat Nov 16, 2019 1:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A320 family overtakes 737 family in total orders
Replies: 114
Views: 17355

Re: A320 family overtakes 737 family in total orders

Nice mark for the A320, but let's see if deliveries ever match. Also, it can't be denied that business objectives have an effect on sales totals. Doesn't mean the A320 doesn't deserve its credit, but it doesn't mean total sales it's pure apples to apples either. Not at all, the CFM56 was a huge ste...

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by 1989worstyear
Fri Nov 15, 2019 7:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A320 family overtakes 737 family in total orders
Replies: 114
Views: 17355

Re: A320 family overtakes 737 family in total orders

Boeing 737: 4 iterations since 1965 Airbus 320: 2 iterations since 1988 IMO this is not little... But you also have to consider that the first iteration (-200) is still in production after 31 years. A 30 year old CEO is practically identical to an end of line build in the factory right now, and has...

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by 1989worstyear
Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A320 family overtakes 737 family in total orders
Replies: 114
Views: 17355

Re: A320 family overtakes 737 family in total orders

To me, what has always heen amazing is how little changed the A320 is compared to what, 4 major iterations of the 737. Boeing 737: 4 iterations since 1965 Airbus 320: 2 iterations since 1988 IMO this is not little... But you also have to consider that the first iteration (-200) is still in producti...

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by 1989worstyear
Thu Nov 14, 2019 5:13 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Do you find Greta Thunberg annoying?
Replies: 84
Views: 12978

Re: Do you find Greta Thunberg annoying?

I really don't get some of the logic here purely focusing on her age. It's clear the Anglosphere, in general, considers a person her age more of an adult in most ways. Examples (not my opinion): - 16/17 year old with a couple grams of weed: drug offender with a record the rest of their lives - 16/1...

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by 1989worstyear
Tue Nov 12, 2019 1:20 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Cops Bust a Unicorn Protesting White Supremacy and Black Dude for Eating Breakfast while Waiting for Train
Replies: 53
Views: 2321

Re: Cops Bust a Unicorn Protesting White Supremacy and Black Dude for Eating Breakfast while Waiting for Train

Don't blame the cops for enforcing the law. Blame the people who broke the law in the first place. The "unicorn" protesters knew that they were playing loosely with the law and wanted to see if they could get away with it (they couldn't). The guy who was "eating" was told that e...

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by 1989worstyear
Fri Nov 08, 2019 5:45 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Do you find Greta Thunberg annoying?
Replies: 84
Views: 12978

Re: Do you find Greta Thunberg annoying?

I really don't get some of the logic here purely focusing on her age. It's clear the Anglosphere, in general, considers a person her age more of an adult in most ways. Examples (not my opinion): - 16/17 year old with a couple grams of weed: drug offender with a record the rest of their lives - 16/17...

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by 1989worstyear
Thu Nov 07, 2019 5:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Canada outlines leased Air Transat A330 service in W19
Replies: 24
Views: 3739

Re: Air Canada outlines leased Air Transat A330 service in W19

The TS web site is still showing some 8 abreast A333's. https://www.airtransat.com/en-CA/travel-information/our-fleet/airbus Yes, that looks like the version used by AC on YUL-YVR-YUL. But, when doing a search on flights on AC's website, the YUL-SJO-YUL A330, operated by TS, seat chart is 3-3-3. Te...

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by 1989worstyear
Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:17 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Airbus a321 vertical stablizer/ rudder improvements
Replies: 10
Views: 4134

Re: Airbus a321 vertical stablizer/ rudder improvements

Hi, I have a technical question about airbus planes. I realize the crash of airbus flight 587 has been discussed and I have read the reports from the NTSB. My question is are newer airbuses designed different or is the vertical stabilizer the same basically? Is this unlikely to happen on an Airbus ...

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by 1989worstyear
Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Opinion: Airbus and how to move away from the A320 family
Replies: 100
Views: 20124

Re: Opinion: Airbus and how to move away from the A320 family

The wing is still 31 years old this month. That's a year older than I am. Also, those are just small updates and not a new variant. All life on this planet is the result of small changes that didn't constitute new variants. That approach can be incredibly efficient.... Also, where are all of the Mo...

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by 1989worstyear
Thu Oct 31, 2019 6:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Opinion: Airbus and how to move away from the A320 family
Replies: 100
Views: 20124

Re: Opinion: Airbus and how to move away from the A320 family

Only the engines have changed since 1988, assuming you're talking about the -200. Wing is identical. Just taken from wikipedia, yes nothing other than engines have changed since 1988 :p : Add manufacturing advances like stirring welding to that. There is not that much improvement to the fuse to be ...

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by 1989worstyear
Wed Oct 30, 2019 8:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Opinion: Airbus and how to move away from the A320 family
Replies: 100
Views: 20124

Re: Opinion: Airbus and how to move away from the A320 family

I think we will see new A320neo coming of the lines the next 20 years at least. Compared to the 737MAX the A320neo is an ultra modern frame. There is absolutely no need for Airbus doing a move, before Boeing is doing a new frame. New frames coming off the lines today are significantly changed from ...

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by 1989worstyear
Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:50 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Do you find Greta Thunberg annoying?
Replies: 84
Views: 12978

Re: Do you find Greta Thunberg annoying?

She’s a child who should be in school, the only person taking her future away from her is her. There are hundreds of millions of children all over the world living in abject poverty and we are supposed to take this child from a wealthy and privileged family seriously???? She's 16. She's less than o...

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by 1989worstyear
Sat Oct 26, 2019 3:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UAL42 IAD-FCO Just Turned Around over Nantucket...
Replies: 11
Views: 5281

Re: UAL42 IAD-FCO Just Turned Around over Nantucket...

Who wants to place bets on which "news" agency blows this out of proportion first?

:smirk:

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by 1989worstyear
Fri Oct 25, 2019 11:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Did accidents affect 757 sales?
Replies: 54
Views: 16168

Re: Did accidents affect 757 sales?

Boeing had to do MAX because if they did not, they were going to lose thousands of orders and dozens, if not scores, of customers. Orders and customers they would not win back when the NSA was ready years later. When the first A320 was delivered on 28 March 1988 Boeing still had 6 B737-200 unfilled...

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by 1989worstyear
Fri Oct 25, 2019 7:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Did accidents affect 757 sales?
Replies: 54
Views: 16168

Re: Did accidents affect 757 sales?

The 757 had out of date engines with a bypass ratio of 4.4:1 on the RB211's. In the 90's that was the lowest bypass ratio of any western airliner. It was overdue for a NEO. The 737NG had engines were a full generation ahead. If we look at the 737 it got new generation engines every 15 years. The cl...

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by 1989worstyear
Fri Oct 25, 2019 6:55 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Halloween outside America
Replies: 38
Views: 6951

Re: Halloween outside America

It seems Halloween becomes more violent and sadistic every year. More slasher movies, more blood, more gore. Keep it. Although I'm not a fan of the "slasher" genre as a whole, I will admit that I have enjoyed a slasher movie from time to time and that some are definitely better than other...

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by 1989worstyear
Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:30 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: ICE Agent Accused of 7 years of Rape of Immigrant
Replies: 3
Views: 3204

Re: ICE Agent Accused of 7 years of Rape of Immigrant

Agreed. However, assuming every single person in a position of power (cops, prosecutors, judges, lawmakers, etc...) is perfect and incapable of this behavior helps make this stuff happen.

The public becomes complacent and oversights goes out the window.

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by 1989worstyear
Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA Reports Q3 Results
Replies: 47
Views: 12631

Re: AA Reports Q3 Results

I fly with AA weekly and hold status with the airline. I've always defended its onboard product. I flew on my first oasis 737 Monday (albeit in the emergency row window. Personally, I don't mind having no IFE. 1. I really value the extra space provided by not having the box under the seat in front ...

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by 1989worstyear
Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is the interior quality of B787 and A350 worse compared to older aircraft generations?
Replies: 96
Views: 27509

Re: Is the interior quality of B787 and A350 worse compared to older aircraft generations?

I flew a TUI 788 LGW to NAP about a month ago and was surprised at how deteriorated the interior of the aircraft (G-TUID) looked. The plane is a little over 6 years old, but it looked a bit like some of the older aircraft like the 767 or A330. The cabin was dirty and worn, and the window dimmers we...

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by 1989worstyear
Wed Oct 23, 2019 7:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Did accidents affect 757 sales?
Replies: 54
Views: 16168

Re: Did accidents affect 757 sales?

Too much plane for most domestic missions of the time. If the 757 was releases in 89 I think we may have seen a MAX version. Airlines have been up-gauging for the past decade. An ER version of the 757-200 that could get out to 5000nm would be a nice competitor to the A321 XLR. Also, Boeing would ha...

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by 1989worstyear
Wed Oct 23, 2019 5:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended
Replies: 5670
Views: 772745

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019

This is so much over kill here. With their problems the Lockheed Electra, Boeing 737-300, Airbus A320, Boeing 767, and The DC-10 were never grounded. Directives were put out and adhered to and all went well. It's of note that when the DC-10 was grounded after the AA 191 crash it wasn't the fault of...

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by 1989worstyear
Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Kevin McAllister To Leave Boeing
Replies: 67
Views: 15643

Re: Heads Start To Roll: Kevin McAllister To Leave Boeing

If anything the sales and revenue people should be the ones who get fired. The sales people promise the customers a shiny new 737 at a low low price and be available by a certain date. Then the revenue people demand that each 737 sold must meet a certain profit margin. And the engineers figure out ...

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by 1989worstyear
Tue Oct 22, 2019 4:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Adding 2 More A330-900 NEOS
Replies: 125
Views: 29963

Re: Delta Adding 2 More A330-900 NEOS

DL is flexing a threefold advantage here. 1) It's using A339s to grow and to replace B763s, unlike most A330neo customers who are presumably mostly using it to replace A330ceos and B772s. B763s are older birds that need replacing soon, unlike A332s, B77As and B77Es that seem like they'll go like th...

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by 1989worstyear
Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing examines GEnX powered 767
Replies: 617
Views: 154663

Re: Boeing examines GEnX powered 767

PW (2000, GP7000),Rolls (2008, Tent 600), GE (2006, Genx) all offered new engines for the 767. Boeing was overly focussed on the 787 though. If they had EIS a GENX 767 by 2015 instead of fantasizing on MoM, NMA for years, while buying back stock, fixing the MAX, they would be in better shape. Peopl...

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by 1989worstyear
Tue Oct 08, 2019 2:27 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Saudi Arabia as Tourist Destination
Replies: 78
Views: 7541

Re: Saudi Arabia as Tourist Destination

What's the difference between death by beheading & death by lethal injections? Both are capital punishments. The West needs to stop with the hypocrisy. You're painting with a very broad brush there - most of "The West" doesn't have the death penalty. Having lived and worked in Saudi A...

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by 1989worstyear
Mon Oct 07, 2019 11:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Makes Changes to 757 TATL Routes
Replies: 49
Views: 16204

Re: Minor Delta TATL improves

oldannyboy wrote:
1989worstyear wrote:
freakyrat wrote:

I feel that the A330 is a much better aircraft after riding on LH's DFW FRA and KLM DFW AMS.


Is it the noise?


Personally I find the cabin quietness the deciding factor when opting for a 330 against any 767 or 777.


1994 is still high tech in this industry. :frown:

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by 1989worstyear
Mon Oct 07, 2019 4:21 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Makes Changes to 757 TATL Routes
Replies: 49
Views: 16204

Re: Minor Delta TATL improves

- FRA will be all A332 That's interesting. FRA used to get 764s to all JFK, ATL, DTW maybe 2 or 3 years ago and was then continuously downgraded until this summer when it hit 763s exclusively. All 332 represents a slight uptick in capacity again but I'll miss seeing 3 DL 764s parked at Terminal 2. ...

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by 1989worstyear
Mon Oct 07, 2019 4:07 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: 767-300 AC
Replies: 9
Views: 7800

Re: 767-300 AC

I guess I'm just trying to make a point that not every 767 is 20+ years old, and some 767 fleets are actually fairly young (JAL, LATAM, ANA etc...). Using that same logic on the A320 would imply that most of the worldwide fleet was built in the '90s - hence why I brought AC as an example as they wer...

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