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by lightsaber
Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:06 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: So much kit left behind by the US at Bagram.
Replies: 26
Views: 2109

Re: So much kit left behind by the US at Bagram.

Every superpower in the last 200 years tried, and failed, to somehow control Afghanistan. Every superpower and Russia. We could go back further to Alexander the Great. Reading a translation of his history had me asking if their could be a winner. Sad But the cost of staying there. The appetite for ...

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by lightsaber
Thu Jul 15, 2021 4:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Baltic A223 - Both engines automatically shutdown on touchdown
Replies: 72
Views: 16223

Re: Air Baltic A223 - Both engines automatically shutdown on touchdown

Prior shutdown due to water in electronics bay: https://simpleflying.com/airbus-a220-rain-causes-engine-shutdown/ I need far more information to make a decision on severity. In particular, so far only on the ground. I do not believe, at this point, this is engine related. Instead, it seems engines ...

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by lightsaber
Thu Jul 15, 2021 3:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated ITA/Alitalia News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1699
Views: 405191

Re: Updated ITA/Alitalia News and Discussion Thread

However, ITA will inherit only part of Alitalia's flight slots - one of the main sticking points in the negotiations and a key asset for carriers - thus accepting the Commission's demands. It will get 85% of the old Alitalia slots at Milan's Linate airport and 43% at Rome's Fiumicino hub. https://m...

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by lightsaber
Thu Jul 15, 2021 3:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Baltic A223 - Both engines automatically shutdown on touchdown
Replies: 72
Views: 16223

Re: Air Baltic A223 - Both engines automatically shutdown on touchdown

Prior shutdown due to water in electronics bay: https://simpleflying.com/airbus-a220-rain-causes-engine-shutdown/ I need far more information to make a decision on severity. In particular, so far only on the ground. I do not believe, at this point, this is engine related. Instead, it seems engines a...

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by lightsaber
Thu Jul 15, 2021 3:34 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: COVID-19 Vaccine News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 2491
Views: 168345

Re: COVID-19 Vaccine News and Discussion Thread

Interesting coverage by CNN of the Right Wing Media and their anti-science anti-vax screeching that is costing the US in a rise in cases and a probably rise in deaths, https://www.cnn.com/videos/media/2021/07/14/fox-news-newsmax-vaccine-misinformation-newday-vpx.cnn/video/playlists/business-media/ ...

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by lightsaber
Thu Jul 15, 2021 3:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aircraft Values, And Lease Pricing - Spring 2021
Replies: 47
Views: 9023

Re: Aircraft Values, And Lease Pricing - Spring 2021

I found a link on A220 and E2 lease pricing that I believe shows a slight deterioration in top lease pricing: A220-100 $32.6 $230k A220-300 $36.8 $256k E2-190 $31.1 $222k E2-195 $33.9 $242k The article notes if Covid19 continues, there will be less demand for these "crossover jets." Lights...

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by lightsaber
Thu Jul 15, 2021 2:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian billionaire mulls investment in new ULCC - report
Replies: 14
Views: 3012

Re: Indian billionaire mulls investment in new ULCC - report

From OP's Forbes link: I serve on the board of directors for Go First, the recent rebranded name of GoAir, one of the airlines catering to the “other 50%” not carried by Indigo. Where are high Indigo fares? https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/trends/smaller-airlines-unlikely-to-claw-back-lost-market-s...

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by lightsaber
Thu Jul 15, 2021 1:59 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: COVID-19 Vaccine News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 2491
Views: 168345

Re: COVID-19 Vaccine News and Discussion Thread

Who rates Sinovac as 51% effective: https://news.yahoo.com/covid-know-chinas-coronavirus-vaccines-091301977.html My opinion is use the attenuated virus vaccines to slow hospital loads, but like Indonesia (see link my previous post) vaccinate with mRNA vaccines ASAP. I am of the opinion that a virus ...

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by lightsaber
Thu Jul 15, 2021 1:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Vietnam Airlines Group approved plan to sell and retire entire fleet of ATR 72
Replies: 12
Views: 2453

Re: Vietnam Airlines Group approved plan to sell and retire entire fleet of ATR 72

Bamboo came and grabbed everything with its fleet of Embraer E1. This sums it up. E1s are cheap enough to displace turboprops now. Going forward, since there won't be a current generation turboprop before 2030, I expect the higher utilization half of the market to go towards E2/A220 in the coming y...

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by lightsaber
Thu Jul 15, 2021 1:01 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: COVID-19 Vaccine News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 2491
Views: 168345

Re: COVID-19 Vaccine News and Discussion Thread

Good news, J&J seems to be working vs. Delta. I'm all for one and done as for some people https://www.ft.com/content/b5366f23-f6fd-4c36-82db-79cef60ab6a0 Sorry but have you look at the data? Weekly cases in Chile fell by 68% in 5 weeks; currently we have 852 weekly cases/1 million hab, compared...

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by lightsaber
Thu Jul 15, 2021 12:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A220 Sales Campaign Thread - 2021
Replies: 345
Views: 48715

Re: Airbus A220 Sales Campaign Thread - 2021

There is no direct, with similar weight and efficiency, alternative to the A220 family that has larger than A223 variants. This is the point. If airlines want A223 efficiency, they will do the calculation. AirCanada JetBlue AirFrance Breeze All came to the conclusion a mixed fleet would work. The o...

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by lightsaber
Thu Jul 15, 2021 1:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A220 Sales Campaign Thread - 2021
Replies: 345
Views: 48715

Re: Airbus A220 Sales Campaign Thread - 2021

:praise: :praise: Remember that the A220 is still an Canadian aircraft. The primary certification authority is Transport Canada Civil Aviation. As an example, the A320 and A321 is not certified by FAA to have 194 and 244 passenger seats respectively. There probably have not been any reason to submit...

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by lightsaber
Thu Jul 15, 2021 1:17 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: COVID-19 Vaccine News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 2491
Views: 168345

Re: COVID-19 Vaccine News and Discussion Thread

Good news, J&J seems to be working vs. Delta. I'm all for one and done as for some people https://www.ft.com/content/b5366f23-f6fd-4c36-82db-79cef60ab6a0 Except, the chance of receiving infection is already chance of being tested positive, and thus you cannot multiple it twice. In case R0=6 with...

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by lightsaber
Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A220 Sales Campaign Thread - 2021
Replies: 345
Views: 48715

Re: Airbus A220 Sales Campaign Thread - 2021

... If an airline is considering the 146 seat E2-195, Airbus will offer the A223 in 160 seats. If Embraer wins a few orders in a row, we will know. 10 seats is enough to pay for the 4th FA. 5 seats is not. ... So you think Airbus Canada would be willing to develop and certify the second overwing em...

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by lightsaber
Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A220 Sales Campaign Thread - 2021
Replies: 345
Views: 48715

Re: Airbus A220 Sales Campaign Thread - 2021

The number of seats on-board not always reflect available capacity. Air Baltic's are 148Y, however they've been blocking 3 seats since they took delivery in 2016. It's been quite a while for an "in-progress" certification. And AF’s A220s will have some blocked middle seats up front for bu...

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by lightsaber
Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Used Delta Aircraft Order A359/737-900ER
Replies: 679
Views: 157870

Re: Rumor: Used Delta Aircraft Order

Operating multiple fleet types does cost more money. In training, and maintenance as you have to stock more parts. It’s a proven industry fact, the less fleet types, the less costs you have. depends what you pay for the aircraft, buying used can make it make sense Negative, having multi-KE fleet ty...

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by lightsaber
Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:35 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Used Delta Aircraft Order A359/737-900ER
Replies: 679
Views: 157870

Re: Rumor: Used Delta Aircraft Order

Interesting that all 29 737ERs are coming from a single source, and all 7 of the 359s are coming from a single source. I would expect that Delta got an even better deal on these frames by buying in volume from a lessor, rather than the lessor having to find a collage of homes for their frames. This...

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by lightsaber
Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A220 Sales Campaign Thread - 2021
Replies: 345
Views: 48715

Re: Airbus A220 Sales Campaign Thread - 2021

What? The E195-E2 maximum passenger capacity is 146. According to this: https://www.easa.europa.eu/sites/default/files/dfu/TCDS_EASA%20IM%20A%20071_ERJ_190_Issue-23_final.pdf#page=35 Airbus Canada needs to do the second overwing exit door. I agree it will take a customer who wants 160 seats. Thank ...

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by lightsaber
Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Used Delta Aircraft Order A359/737-900ER
Replies: 679
Views: 157870

Re: Rumor: Used Delta Aircraft Order

Interesting that all 29 737ERs are coming from a single source, and all 7 of the 359s are coming from a single source. I would expect that Delta got an even better deal on these frames by buying in volume from a lessor, rather than the lessor having to find a collage of homes for their frames. This...

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by lightsaber
Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A220 Sales Campaign Thread - 2021
Replies: 345
Views: 48715

Re: Airbus A220 Sales Campaign Thread - 2021

.... As stated the A223 is currently certified for a maximum of 145 passengers . See https://www.easa.europa.eu/sites/default/files/dfu/TCDS%20EASA%20IM%20A%20570%20Issue%2014.pdf The plane can physically fit more but another set of over wing exits needs to be added. That’s not particularly difficu...

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by lightsaber
Tue Jul 13, 2021 7:06 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Is a speeding ticket for going 8 MPH over harsh?
Replies: 72
Views: 2840

Re: Is a speeding ticket for going 8 MPH over harsh?

In my travels driving under the speed limit is actually even more dangerous from what I've seen. How much? 75 in an 80mph is safe. 45mph in a 65mph is not safe. I used to drive home really late (3am). The number of fatalities I witnessed was... 5 too many. Two were speeding motorcycles. All were do...

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by lightsaber
Tue Jul 13, 2021 7:00 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Is a speeding ticket for going 8 MPH over harsh?
Replies: 72
Views: 2840

Re: Is a speeding ticket for going 8 MPH over harsh?

Wow, I drive in areas where even 1mph (absolute speed limits) is a ticket. I hated my prior tickets, but I earned them. Maybe it is my current car, but I don't like driving as fast as you were. When I had a BMW with a sport suspension and racing brakes... I will neither confirm nor deny. Lightsaber

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by lightsaber
Tue Jul 13, 2021 4:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A220 Sales Campaign Thread - 2021
Replies: 345
Views: 48715

Re: Airbus A220 Sales Campaign Thread - 2021

Geez, chill down. Here are the numbers: E195-E2 single class high density: 146 seats E195-E2 standard single class: 132 seats (KLM has 134 and Azul 136) https://www.embraercommercialaviation.com/commercial-jets/e195-e2-commercial-jet/ E190-E1 which is the same as E2: 114 seats high density 100 seat...

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by lightsaber
Tue Jul 13, 2021 3:42 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: COVID-19 Vaccine News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 2491
Views: 168345

Re: COVID-19 Vaccine News and Discussion Thread

[url][/url] In Italy it has been mandated from the start (my cousin who is a 30yo speech therapist was vaccinated back in January), only 2% of HC professionals are not vaccinated, and they have been suspended without pay as a result. Doing it early was wise. Then there was more concern on the virus,...

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by lightsaber
Tue Jul 13, 2021 3:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aircraft Values, And Lease Pricing - Spring 2021
Replies: 47
Views: 9023

Re: Aircraft Values, And Lease Pricing - Spring 2021

ILNFlyer, I think competition for stock is going to be the limiting factor on A321P2F conversions. This isn't a negative, they are still really good passenger aircraft in my opinion! So I am excited for the possibility of A320P2F conversions as looking at the lease/value thread, my opinion is too ma...

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by lightsaber
Tue Jul 13, 2021 3:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Porter Airlines Orders 30 Embraer E195-E2
Replies: 220
Views: 32115

Re: Updated: Porter Airlines Orders 30 Embraer E195-E2

With EIS not for a bit, I am not worried about the E2. It will be known by then and further debugged. What does this do for the E2 production rate? What is the planned rate in 2022? See, it is all about GTFs in service. ;) Lightsaber In last earnings post, Embraer did not give a guidance for deliver...

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by lightsaber
Tue Jul 13, 2021 3:08 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: COVID-19 Vaccine News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 2491
Views: 168345

Re: COVID-19 Vaccine News and Discussion Thread

Greece and France are mandating health care worker vaccines: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/covid-19-global-updates-france-and-greece-mandate-vaccinations-for-health-workers-amid-delta-variant-surge/ar-AAM5EfB?ocid=BingNewsSearch I want vaccines, but like an ex-smoker, I have strong opinions o...

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by lightsaber
Tue Jul 13, 2021 3:00 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: COVID-19 Non Aviation Thread - Q2 2021
Replies: 441
Views: 35811

Re: COVID-19 Non Aviation Thread - Q2 2021

Looks like next wave in India is starting.Medical authorities are asking to avoid large gathering, tourism and religious pilgrimages. But it appears revenge tourism is in full swing, so does gatherings and pilgrimages. https://www.indiatoday.in/coronavirus-outbreak/story/covid-corona-third-wave-tou...

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by lightsaber
Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Porter Airlines Orders 30 Embraer E195-E2
Replies: 220
Views: 32115

Re: Updated: Porter Airlines Orders 30 Embraer E195-E2

What does this do for the E2 production rate? What is the planned rate in 2022?

See, it is all about GTFs in service. ;)

Lightsaber

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by lightsaber
Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A220 Sales Campaign Thread - 2021
Replies: 345
Views: 48715

Re: Airbus A220 Sales Campaign Thread - 2021

I really don't see a A220-500 coming anytime before next decade. Investments on this development are very high and the majority of the sales would come from canibalizing the A320neo (nowadays perceived as superior to the MAX 8 and priced accordingly). So, it seems to me there is no favorable paybac...

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by lightsaber
Tue Jul 13, 2021 12:01 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: COVID-19 Vaccine News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 2491
Views: 168345

Re: COVID-19 Vaccine News and Discussion Thread

Perhaps big pharma needs to focus on treatment options now that they have been funded for vaccines. The major push for vaccines among the nations who paid for the development is for boosters, as most of their population who want the vaccine has already taken it. Yes the next push is for kids under ...

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by lightsaber
Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A220 Sales Campaign Thread - 2021
Replies: 345
Views: 48715

Re: Airbus A220 Sales Campaign Thread - 2021

Aside from an LCY operation to USA, I'm not sure what ACT would offer. The airplane holds almost 10 hours of fuel as-is......weights are generally the limiting factor. You can't carry 39,000 lbs of gas and a full load of people on the existing airplanes. Breeze has asked for the A223 to have more r...

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by lightsaber
Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:41 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Wide spread protests in Cuba
Replies: 77
Views: 3739

Re: Wide spread protests in Cuba

Who would have thought that a brutal totalitarian regime would treat its citizens like brutal totalitarian regimes do. Cuba Cracks Down on Protests Amid Worst Economic Crisis in Decades Cuba’s Communist government intensified its crackdown against demonstrators and activists on Monday, deploying se...

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by lightsaber
Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Breeze International RFP
Replies: 24
Views: 4351

Re: Breeze International RFP

Breeze's point to point, low frequency business model will probably work for high-volume destinations like CUN and PUJ but I'm skeptical of their potential success in higher end markets They just need to feed the resorts. The neat part of a low frequency model is they just snipe high yield day traf...

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by lightsaber
Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Porter Airlines Orders 30 Embraer E195-E2
Replies: 220
Views: 32115

Re: Updated: Porter Airlines Orders 30 Embraer E195-E2

Please post comment with a link.

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by lightsaber
Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AirAsia X plans overhaul to survive
Replies: 377
Views: 63115

Re: AirAsia X plans overhaul to survive

Fuel hedging settlements? The black hole opens wider. Maintenance payments has me thinking repos would get messy if they haven’t paid MRO vendors. We know they haven’t paid the airports, was payroll up to date? The breadth of creditors is shocking And so far, the owners want to keep a lion's share....

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by lightsaber
Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:16 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: COVID-19 Vaccine News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 2491
Views: 168345

Re: COVID-19 Vaccine News and Discussion Thread

The political/human realities seem to be: 1 - We aren't going to get enough people vaccinated to achieve herd immunity, due to hesitancy and high percentage need due to increased transmissability (Delta) 2 - Improved treatments and drug therapies are going to help but not completely eliminate criti...

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by lightsaber
Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:12 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AirAsia X plans overhaul to survive
Replies: 377
Views: 63115

Re: AirAsia X plans overhaul to survive

The reality is, even with the pending post-vaccination recovery, I think AirAsia, without AirAsiaX, needs to downsize. They have about 200 aircraft, but need to drop to 70% to 80% of the current capacity. As much as possible that would be by returning A320CEOs and delaying A320NEO deliveries, reduc...

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by lightsaber
Tue Jul 13, 2021 12:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Used Delta Aircraft Order A359/737-900ER
Replies: 679
Views: 157870

Re: Rumor: Used Delta Aircraft Order

Looks like they have scooped up some young viable A350s. Now we shall see if the 737 portion of the rumor is correct. Congrats on the Airbus widebodies. More than I expected, a nice fleet replacement. I too wonder about narrowbodies. I expect some mid-size used orders, but I also expect something t...

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by lightsaber
Tue Jul 13, 2021 12:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aircraft Values, And Lease Pricing - Spring 2021
Replies: 47
Views: 9023

Re: Aircraft Values, And Lease Pricing - Spring 2021

The market should balance itself out if this truly becomes an issue. That is, lessors will stop doing purchase/leasebacks with Indigo because it floods the market. Until that happens, lessors have made the financial analysis to support Indigo's business model of ordering lots of new planes, selling...

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by lightsaber
Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AF-KLM Group Narrowbody tender
Replies: 121
Views: 17590

Re: Af/KLM Narrowbody order 2021

I do not consider any scenario certain. I consider the -10 MAX a favorite though. I'm not certain how many A223 would be plausible for KLM either. A 3 way split adds too much in costs for 160 aircraft after I think about this, but a 2 way split has merits. There is a cost for a split, but also a co...

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by lightsaber
Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aircraft Values, And Lease Pricing - Spring 2021
Replies: 47
Views: 9023

Re: Aircraft Values, And Lease Pricing - Spring 2021

I was surprised to find out 22 of Indigo's returned A320CEOs remain with the leasing companies: https://www.msn.com/en-in/money/topstories/where-have-all-indigo-s-ceos-gone/ar-AALw5Gn?ocid=BingNewsSearch My interpretation (and this should be no surprise) is Indigo is returning aircraft as fat as le...

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by lightsaber
Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:36 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: COVID-19 Vaccine News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 2491
Views: 168345

Re: COVID-19 Vaccine News and Discussion Thread

Perhaps big pharma needs to focus on treatment options now that they have been funded for vaccines. The major push for vaccines among the nations who paid for the development is for boosters, as most of their population who want the vaccine has already taken it. Yes the next push is for kids under ...

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by lightsaber
Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A220 Sales Campaign Thread - 2021
Replies: 345
Views: 48715

Re: Airbus A220 Sales Campaign Thread - 2021

I understand very well that the production cost of A220-100 is similar to that of the A220-300. That's it the point. The point is that the A220-100 is sold millions of US dollars lower than the A220-300. We are not talking about the revenue of the operator here. We are talking about the revenue of ...

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by lightsaber
Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AF-KLM Group Narrowbody tender
Replies: 121
Views: 17590

Re: Af/KLM Narrowbody order 2021

I do not consider any scenario certain. I consider the -10 MAX a favorite though. I'm not certain how many A223 would be plausible for KLM either. A 3 way split adds too much in costs for 160 aircraft after I think about this, but a 2 way split has merits. There is a cost for a split, but also a cos...

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by lightsaber
Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AF-KLM Group Narrowbody tender
Replies: 121
Views: 17590

Re: Af/KLM Narrowbody order 2021

This is a facinating order. I won't assume anything, but Boeing, with the MAX-10 has an advantage. The question on smaller and the possibility of the A220 and possible xLR orders makes this less than 100% certain to one vendor. I'm at 60% certain all Boeing, which can mean anything.

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by lightsaber
Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Porter Airlines Orders 30 Embraer E195-E2
Replies: 220
Views: 32115

Re: Porter orders up to 80 E195-E2

I just find links on "up to 80." We get excited about options being excercised for a reason. I assume it is the order for 30 previously reported: https://leehamnews.com/2021/05/19/hotr-porter-confirmed-as-customer-in-e195-e2-deal/ The Porter site says: Our initial set of new routes will be...

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by lightsaber
Mon Jul 12, 2021 1:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A321XLR Development Production Testing Thread - 2021
Replies: 151
Views: 39378

Re: Airbus A321XLR Development Production Testing Thread - 2021

3900nmi fully loaded in a high density configuration seems unlikely. Pax weight with luggage would be between 60-70k lbs plus OEW wouldn't leave enough margin for the fuel required. 132Kg/Pax seems a bit much, just as 60-70k is a bit much for an aircraft with 56,200 lbs max payload. At 52t OEW that...

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by lightsaber
Mon Jul 12, 2021 1:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AirAsia X plans overhaul to survive
Replies: 377
Views: 63115

Re: AirAsia X plans overhaul to survive

What about AirAsia (non-X)? Is the airline(s) having troubles too? I would guess it is the case, but how deep are they in the poop? They are in deep trouble. However, it is believed they can sell enough stock where half is used for working capital and RM380M (about a third) to pay over due debt , t...

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by lightsaber
Mon Jul 12, 2021 1:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa considering to bring back five A380 in 2022
Replies: 36
Views: 10669

Re: Lufthansa considering to bring back five A380 in 2022

A couple of sources that don't hold out much hope for the A380. https://pressinsiderdaily.com/2021/07/lufthansa-gives-airbus-a380-pilots-e-35000-bonuses-so-they-no-longer-fly/ https://industry-update.com/lufthansa-encourages-early-retirement-of-a380-crew/68520/ This could be a short term move. I su...

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