Re: Brexit Part IX: Final rush to No Deal

We will be patrolling our waters in the event of no deal though. French fisherman will not be allowed into UK waters and rightly so. When things get that far, be prepared to buy up all the fish yourselves as you won't be able to export it to the continent any more. I hope you like fish as much on y...

Re: Brexit Part IX: Final rush to No Deal

https://preview.redd.it/g7iet5abhi461.jpg?width=540&auto=webp&s=adca77b1ee4491625f488eeaf7a040f1a5228a8e Is anyone really surprised? Just slightly at this point any more. But it's still even more classless and even more unprofessional than I would have expected, and even more pointless and ...

Re: Brexit Part IX: Final rush to No Deal

According to Michel Barnier the hard deadline is Wednesday (probably in the evening).

Re: Official Election thread

This is a very precise, and very good analysis. But I hope that this election was as if Germany dodged Hitler in 1935ish. Or he had died of a heart attack in -36. None of the others could have kept the power and people moving into the madness as Hitler did. Göering? No. We must not forget how impor...

Re: Official Election thread

Klaus: Murdoch i don’t think is particularly right wing, he just wants power and will go with whoever to maintain his influence. All his media consistently skew as far towards the hard right as they can without completely losing their respective audiences, all across the markets where he is active,...

Re: Official Election thread

I don't find Trump supporters to any less grounded in reality or stupid than Bernie Sanders supporters. They just have a different opinion and a value by which they judge things to be right or wrong. People will never agree on everything, and as long as the loudest voices, with the most money, are ...

Re: Official Election thread

Other things he may do while he still can is a pardon flurry to all the criminals who have helped him through the years, I think that's a certainty to be expected, basically giving the finger to the country. The catch is that the president can only pardon people for federal crimes as far as I'm awa...

Re: Official Election thread

...and while the pandemic crisis is escalating and he still hasn't conceded yet, Trump goes golfing again today...! https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2020/nov/08/us-election-2020-joe-biden-donald-trump-kamala-harris-coronavirus-covid-19-live-updates The latest update is that the current presi...

Re: Official Election thread

So will Trump be capable of resisting his urge to grab attention back to himself while Biden speaks? I'm wondering more about inauguration day. Will he pull a sickie, or just go and play a round of golf instead? Will be interesting to see how he handles it. Depends on whether he can scrape together...

Re: Official Election thread

Klaus wrote:

So will Trump be capable of resisting his urge to grab attention back to himself while Biden speaks?

I know: It's mostly a rhetorical question. I fully expect a petulant Trump tweet eruption during Biden's speech.

Re: Official Election thread

So will Trump be capable of resisting his urge to grab attention back to himself while Biden speaks?

I know: It's mostly a rhetorical question. I fully expect a petulant Trump tweet eruption during Biden's speech.

Re: Official Election thread

So Trump finally lost. That's sad. I was looking forward to four more years of discussions on a.net. Also: We Europeans loose the most funny gossip. It was depressing and revolting. And the rest more pitiful than actually funny. Well: Thank you Trump for all the funny stuff you gave us. On a more s...

Re: Official Election thread

Trump now is a defeated incumbent. That is not pleasant, but in a democracy that is the voters' decision.

But what is completely up to him now is whether he leaves the White House as a pathetic loser.

Nobody but Trump himself can make him that.

Re: Official Election thread

Arion640 wrote:

Why did maine elect a republican senator but biden for president?

Re: Official Election thread

The fun part is that Kamala Harris should become the 47th president around 2022... Joe won't last that long. Mid 2020 at most. Is this prediction going to be as accurate as your debate predictions? :duck: I guess the marching orders now are "the whole latter half of 2020 is just a hoax!"

Re: Official Election thread

CNN commentator thinks it likely that 3 states will have a recount and that would take several days. The fat lady has not even got on stage to sing or so it seems. Recounts are routine. Actual changes to the outcome are such extreme exceptions, though, that the preliminary result is practically cer...

Re: Official Election thread

Some guy on Twitter called Donald Trump wrote about losing with dignity: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/812450976670121985 Hmm. The Republicans might as well save themselves and jettison Trump and his bunch of characters. That Donald Trump from the past guy must be a total troll who jus...

Re: Brexit Part IX: Final rush to No Deal

Parliament as the representative to the electorate has to have the moral fortitude to get the best possible deal for the country, in this they have failed remarkably. Theresa Mays catchcry “No deal is better than a bad deal” is still the better position, pity she did not have the determination to s...

Re: Brexit Part IX: Final rush to No Deal

The US election result is terrible news for the UK. I don't really think so: Trump wouldn't have handed any favours to Johnson; Trump's enthusiasm for Brexit was exclusively to weaken and isolate the UK so Trump could screw the UK that much more effectively. Biden will no doubt drive a hard bargain...

Re: Official Election thread

Biden is up by 13371 in PA now (CNN live broadcast just now).

Re: Official Election thread

Biden announcing his primetime appearance puts the pressure on Trump to go first and to explain his own position, and Biden will certainly let him if at all possible.

Re: Official Election thread

I will correct you a little bit. With Georgia alone that will get Biden to 269 EVs. If Trump wins everything else it would be 269-269. Right, which would throw it to the House counting only by delegations, which would still give republicans the advantage. But only if Trump actually won all of the o...

Re: Official Election thread

I'm struggling to keep track with the different outlets giving slightly different numbers, which states does Biden need to get to win it - if he gets PA, does that mean it's all over, or does he need Arizona too? If Biden win PA it is over. Biden can still win if he does not win PA, he would need t...

Re: Official Election thread

TheSonntag wrote:

What a press conference from Trump. This is soviet Union revisited.

Re: Brexit Part IX: Final rush to No Deal

LOL, OK a reciprocal no quota/tariffs deal to the UK is not beneficial to the EU. Somehow I think the EU wants to protect its trade surplus with the UK The EU has an overall payment deficit with the UK when services are included, which is obviously the only way to look at this when it's about the t...

Re: Hope Hicks. President Trump and wife all test positive for COVID

Just an aside: Melania will likely have a lower risk not just because of being younger and fitter, but actually already from being a woman as men tend to suffer more severely from COVID than women do, on top of Trump's other risk factors.

Re: Hope Hicks. President Trump and wife all test positive for COVID

COVID-19 is complacency's plus one. Biden should have worn the mask for the debate. Zoom debates are a better option going forward. Me wearing a mask protects others from my viruses (if I have any) much more than it protects me from other people's. So Trump would have been the one needing to wear o...

Re: Trump and Melania test positive for COVID 19

Trump has been working on the side of the virus all along, so let's see if the virus is now as loyal to him as Trump is to his minions.

Re: Trump and Melania test positive for COVID 19

Has already hit several million nicer american people, and killed >200000 of them.

Re: Brexit Part IX: Final rush to No Deal

The UK government have shot their excuses from the hip, very clearly: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/916702/UKIM_Legal_Statement.pdf These culminate in this: It is an established principle of international law that a state is obliged t...

Re: Brexit Part IX: Final rush to No Deal

Ms Merkel is more popular then ever. She have all EU behind her and she outlplays UK at the moment. Yeah but how could you not outplay the UK right now? They're hardly playing a blinder! :lol: There's effectively no debate about Brexit in the EU: We're all in agreement that the BoJo government in W...

Re: Brexit Part IX: Final rush to No Deal

Johnson will put an ultimatum to negotiators this week, saying the UK and Europe must agree a post-Brexit trade deal by 15 October or Britain will walk away for good. That's not from me! I love the threat. The talks are supposed to end in early October anyway, for the result to have any chance of b...

Re: Brexit Part IX: Final rush to No Deal

Grizzly410 wrote:

Ursula von der Leyen and Charles Michel already commented via Twitter.

Re: Brexit Part IX: Final rush to No Deal

Just popped into my mind that UK financial sector thinks it can continue serving EU customers even after no-deal brexit relying on the goodwill from EU to declare equivalence of rules even in the case if rules are not the same and commit to keep that equivalence forever despite whatever UK governme...

Re: Brexit Part IX: Final rush to No Deal

Boris and his 'friends' keep mucking up Brexit for tor their selfish political reasons. The UK wants to modify the already set exit agreements with the EU over internal UK trade and with Northern Ireland, Ireland, EU trade. The EU, in particular the German's leader is very unhappy. https://www.bbc....

Re: Brexit Part IX: Final rush to No Deal

You keep saying the UK economy is screwed, cant be much worse than we are now under a covid- induced economic coma No, the hard Brexit your government is letting your country drift towards will be on top of the COVID consequences, and while all the other countries will climb out of that again, the ...

Re: Brexit Part IX: Final rush to No Deal

This is a bit like saying that any contract you make should be ditchable if you realise you should not have signed it. I buy and sell shares. Should there be a facility whereby I can retrospectively cancel any deal on which I lost money and if I make money the seller should be able to cancel the co...

Re: Brexit Part IX: Final rush to No Deal

He’s talking about food stuff destined for NI which meets EU standards, And if the food is properly qualified and validated like any other 3rd country import into the EU there won't be a problem. just another attempt by the EU to force the UK into a vassal state. You guys have chosen, nay insisted ...

Re: Brexit Part IX: Final rush to No Deal

This could explain the reasoning behind the new legislation Brussels threatened to block British food exports to Northern Ireland in Brexit power play https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12618129/eu-threats-british-food-exports-to-northern-ireland/amp/ That's a very weak attempt of the Sun to deflect the...

Re: Brexit Part IX: Final rush to No Deal

At least there is no an admission that the changes will break international law. https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/brexit-news-latest-boris-johnson-eu-deal-update-124433520.html?guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAKzdHW6ViH7LodfuuLeNxsHybfaEWVz88vBF-XIvqG2dR0MLQN...

Re: Brexit Part IX: Final rush to No Deal

A central principle in the WA which Boris Johnson had signed and the respective parliaments had officially ratified and registered as an international treaty is that the UK respects the integrity of the EU Single Market. The proposed stipulations are a stick of dynamite to that agreement, because th...

Re: Brexit Part IX: Final rush to No Deal

Guardian: Leaked EU cables reveal growing mistrust of UK in Brexit talks Besides the further plummeting trust in this UK government (and it's already been at basement level), this is the most interesting part to me: UK officials on Monday morning repeatedly stressed how minor the changes will be in...

Re: Brexit Part IX: Final rush to No Deal

Brexitremist truly doesn't care about Northern Ireland, never have and this is just one more signal that this is so. Sad but true. Perhaps the best that Northern Ireland just secretes from the union and have it done with. Johnson hs been quite consistent with his dismissive neglect for Northern Ire...

Re: Brexit Part IX: Final rush to No Deal

Guardian: Brexit: Johnson to override EU withdrawal agreement Boris Johnson is drawing up legislation that will override the Brexit withdrawal agreement on Northern Ireland, a move that threatens the collapse of crunch talks which the prime minister has said must be completed within five weeks. Joh...

Re: Brexit Part IX: Final rush to No Deal

In essence the short term car manufacturing in the UK is safe long term is another thing altogether just like plants across the world, it only takes a change of management which can change the fortunes of a manufacturing plant for better or worse Soo... you're trying to claim that a no-deal Brexit ...

Re: Brexit Part IX: Final rush to No Deal

Apparently senior BBC journalist Andrew Marr thinks Scotland is only a few years away from breaking away from the Union. https://www.thenational.scot/news/18682519.andrew-marr-predicts-scotland-likely-leave-union-2024/ To be honest, if we've learned something over the past few years, it owuld be th...

Re: Brexit Part IX: Final rush to No Deal

Yes sadly or in my eyes Brexit is connected to a world that does not exist anymore. Trump has destroyed both WTO and NATO. WTO does not work without USA and EU actively make it work. Biden would still have a chance to revive both NATO and WTO, but if Trump should remain both will effectively be his...

Re: Brexit Part IX: Final rush to No Deal

olle wrote:

So whom will USA call after the next election in February 2021 when it calls Europe? Will it be London or Brussels? I think this is a very important question to ask.

Re: Brexit Part IX: Final rush to No Deal

The quoting function automatically inserts the correct name. It takes an active effort to mangle and misspell it like that, and to do that 6 times in a row at that. I mean, really? Might be one block but you certainty are not a Federation a single entity. It doesn't matter at all to the UK (any mor...

Re: Brexit Part IX: Final rush to No Deal

Did I say we had incredible strength……..nope; A trade agreement is between two independent sovereign equal nations. If you do not understand that is the basic fundamentals of a trade agreement. But each will obviously be looking to get the best deal it can get Your "equal nations" is comp...