Population and passenger counts tend to grow over time. Some of those airports should grow their traffic to fill the larger aircraft. That is a resonable guess and was option #3. Up until 1967 you needed to fly in a 4 engine jet to have more than 131 seats and the biggest Boeing 4 engine jet was li...
Jump to postPopulation and passenger counts tend to grow over time. Some of those airports should grow their traffic to fill the larger aircraft.
Jump to postI wasn't actually thinking so much of the O&D of a possible PBG-BOS service. What I am wondering is how much a PBG-BOS service on Silver (who interlines with DL and B6) might draw away people who would potentially make connections through BOS on a BTV-BOS service. Even with the DL and B6 buildu...
Jump to postPeople from Burlington definitely use Plattsburgh for Florida flights. Drive thru the parking lot you will see plenty of green VT plates in every row. Just like the large amount of yellow NY plates at BTV. I don't doubt what you say about PBG-Florida, but that's in a different category than PBG-BOS...
Jump to postThis is slightly outside of NE, but it might be relevant to BTV - Local news is reporting that three airlines have applied for service at Plattsburgh, including Silver to BOS and Cape Air (undisclosed destination) https://www.wcax.com/content/news/3-airlines-submit-bids-to-fly-out-of-Plattsburgh-567...
Jump to postThe numbers and logic often point to obvious opportunities for MHT and PVD but the airlines have clearly decided to place their eggs in the BOS basket. The rich keep getting richer it seems. From reading the airline and BOS threads it seems like there are (better?) opportunities in BOS if airlines ...
Jump to postThe numbers and logic often point to obvious opportunities for MHT and PVD but the airlines have clearly decided to place their eggs in the BOS basket. The rich keep getting richer it seems. From reading the airline and BOS threads it seems like there are (better?) opportunities in BOS if airlines ...
Jump to postAlright, this is a look at how well B6 did in the summer leisure market nearby. Since I included PWM here, I also added BUF/SYR/ROC/BTV as comparison. CityPairDist Carrier Board AvgFare NSFare ConnFare% NS PerFlight# Flights LF Yield JFKHYA 196 B6 09750 203.47 203.00 235.55 98.54% 100.0 129 75.58% ...
Jump to postAlright, this is a look at how well B6 did in the summer leisure market nearby. Since I included PWM here, I also added BUF/SYR/ROC/BTV as comparison. CityPairDist Carrier Board AvgFare NSFare ConnFare% NS PerFlight# Flights LF Yield JFKHYA 196 B6 09750 203.47 203.00 235.55 98.54% 100.0 129 75.58% ...
Jump to postI got to use the temporary connector at BTV this past week, and it probably saved me from missing my flight. It looked pretty much like what you'd expect, except for more changes of direction than I had pictured. Can you still get to the old tower from the land side? I don't think so. I passed the ...
Jump to postI got to use the temporary connector at BTV this past week, and it probably saved me from missing my flight. It looked pretty much like what you'd expect, except for more changes of direction than I had pictured.
Jump to postPWM has always done pretty well with its yields, but F9 seeks bargain seekers and it forces the market to decide if they want to put up a fight or back away. A bubble gets built when airlines fight back with adding low fare capacity in hopes of driving F9 out, or at least minimize its impact. In th...
Jump to postF9 released their summer 2020 schedule PWM-DEN / RDU / MCO are hanging around as 3x weekly. Surprised RDU made the cut. BTV-DEN / MCO is also back as 3x weekly through the summer. PSM seems to be permanently suspended. No longer bookable on the F9 site. F9 is set to make a barrage of route announce...
Jump to postSo BTV seems to be adding fewer routes relative to size and growth than PWM. Could this reflect a more conservative approach by the airport or just be the way other factors play out? I know that airports have some influence over getting new routes, but I wonder if they could or would try to discoura...
Jump to postGreat news out of BTV: https://www.sevendaysvt.com/OffMessage/archives/2019/11/26/btv-airport-will-use-10-million-federal-grant-to-expand-terminal Consolidated security checkpoint will happen sooner than originally expected due to this grant. For those familiar with the terminal, the entrance to th...
Jump to postThe 321 is likely more just an equip subs as they come on property as opposed to demand driven. Back in 1998 or so I flew on one of the very first 738s on CLE-PVD in place of a 735, it wasn’t based on loads but rather the new plane on property and getting it flying. I understand that - mjg referred...
Jump to postFor followers of the unusual, B6 operated flight 34 from JFK to BTV today with their latest aircraft, A321neo N2016J. This is the 3rd Airbus sub on this flight in the past 9 days.
Jump to postWas searching for flights to BTV next June and saw DL is having a 738 on the ATL route, not sure if they have done more than 737 to BTV or not?! Hmmm, I don’t recall any scheduled DL 738 on ATL-BTV in years past. CRJ900/700, 717, MD88, 737, 319, I think 320, but not 738/9. Might also be a placehold...
Jump to postHere are BTV's YTD enplanement results through August. JetBlue is really having a much-needed turnaround, a very encouraging sign. B6 either cutting back frequency or cutting to seasonal service would be disastrous for the airport. AA is only down -3% despite fairly draconian YOY capacity cuts on B...
Jump to postAs someone who took the F9 DEN flight in June and it was close to full and so far have seen many of my old friends in VT take the said DEN flight, the route seems like a great add. I was surprised a bit to not see any winter additions from BTV on F9, RSW or TPA. But hopefully F9 sticks around and d...
Jump to postBTS numbers for July came out recently, and it looks like it was a big month for BTV-DEN. F9 had a load factor of 93.59%, and UA's mainline LF was 92.19%, which is much higher than any other month this year or last July, so DEN was seemingly a big contributor for them.
Jump to posttrnswrld wrote:Surprised to see no videos of the crash so far. Maybe there are some, but just not being released pending investigation and for the families of those involved?
BTV released their June numbers. Healthy load factors pushed enplanements up +7% despite a slight decrease in departing capacity. Looks like Delta's growth (I believe this is an extra crj9 frequency to both ATL and JFK vs last year) and Frontier helped offset AA's draconian PHL cuts (this year 4x d...
Jump to postIs B6 still 3x daily BTV-JFK year round? or do they go down to 2x in the slower months? Seems like jetblue isn't exactly healthy at BTV They're loaded at 3x daily year round. They're load factors have steadily eroded over the past year or two in addition to what I see has been giving up a lot of pr...
Jump to postFrom a quick glance at the plans in the video, looks like the new TSA checkpoint will be added to the right portion of the terminal that is currently part of the apron. Then BTV will be able to remove the temporary container connector that I'm guessing is up and running now? PWM just built a white ...
Jump to postI found the ATC recordings and they came in as an emergency and a compressor stall was mentioned.
Jump to postBTV is going to have the unusual distinction today of seeing all three of B6's current aircraft models today. B6 34 arrived early this morning with an A320 and B6 1634 is currently en-route with an A321 (Mint even!) I assume this is for recovery from the recent weather problems.
Jump to postBTV-CLT going to 3x daily in December around Christmas time. Hopefully will start to see some mainline thrown on this route here soon. It seems like this would have been a good time if they wanted to use mainline. That's how DL has handled BTV-ATL, and I would imagine that CLT is similar traffic-wi...
Jump to postBTV got UA69 (ARN-EWR). That is the first TATL diversion to BTV that I know of. I saw that. I feel like I've seen TATL diverts to BTV but couldn't tell you what or when...hah, I know, unhelpful...maybe an AC A333 going FRA-YUL? BGR up to at least 9 with KL643 (AMS-JFK, A333) and DI7015 (LGW-JFK) co...
Jump to postBGR got five diversions tonight: DL9901 (VCE-JFK, 763), LH404 (FRA-JFK, 748), UA2821 (LHR-EWR, 752), LV9 (ORY-EWR, A332), and DY7021 (CDG-EWR, 789). The latter initially appeared like it was going to YUL but then diverted again to BGR. Must be the first time in a few years that BGR has had five TAT...
Jump to postHere’s a schematic of the new walkway to connect the North and South terminals at BTV. So it looks like the walkway will in fact go right through the 2nd floor offices, then punch a hole through the wall at one of United’s mainline gates. Is anyone familiar with the layout of BTV’s administrative o...
Jump to postImpressive research VS4ever. If MHT continues to decline in the future, we may eventually see BVT catch up to it in passenger counts. Don't think anyone would have predicted this turn of events over a decade ago. After the morning push the terminal must be eerily quiet with the exception of the Sou...
Jump to postYeah it is very strange! But I think its a great addition to just have something to connect the gate areas! It's not something the average customer will need to use, and they can make it look nicer with carpeting and things. I think speed is important, so anything pre-fab will help that. Also, sinc...
Jump to postHere’s a schematic of the new walkway to connect the North and South terminals at BTV. So it looks like the walkway will in fact go right through the 2nd floor offices, then punch a hole through the wall at one of United’s mainline gates. Is anyone familiar with the layout of BTV’s administrative o...
Jump to postI see at least two diversions from YUL to BTV and one from YOW.
Jump to postStop arguing and get back on topic. I'm surprised BTV hasn't closed their crosswind runway as it seems to restrict the growth of the terminal and seems too short for regular jetliner ops The terminal is pretty much parallel to 1-19 so I don't think the runway should be much of an obstacle to expans...
Jump to postI was in BTV yesterday. Frontier had cancelled the Denver flight that day. How do they deal with that? Will they rebook on united or other carriers or do you have to wait for days? Doubt there was room to rebook an entire plane on the next flight. I think that’s just the downside of depending on UL...
Jump to postBTV and Upstate NY cities are served for political reasons along with SWF and ORH Stop fixating on them...they aren’t going anywhere how exactly is BTV served for political reasons? genuinely curious since I've never heard this before. I am curious also. I have heard it before but never seen it exp...
Jump to postFrontier just extended their schedules into March and BTV-MCO is back as of November, but now 4x per week. That is up from 2x or sometimes 3x per week this past winter. DEN appears to be stopping in November. It never seemed clear if this was planned to be seasonal from the beginning or not.
Jump to postB6 sometimes has the same last digits for all flights on the same route. For example JFK-BTV has 34, 234, 1634 and JFK-ROC has 286, 486 and 586. Some of the BOS-DCA flights are -89. BTV and ROC have been around a long time. I don't believe this is often or ever done on new routes or added flights.
Jump to postHere’s an article on the new North-South terminal connections project at BTV. I thought the following was noteworthy: “The enclosed ramp will be made from shipping containers, which airport officials also used in February to create a new gateway ramp when Frontier first started operating out of Bur...
Jump to postB6 is back for the summer with 3x daily to JFK, based on the seat maps from their booking site it looks like some flights are totally sold out weeks in advance. I wonder what it would take for them to return to year-round service Based on passenger counts I think it would take them reducing to 2x p...
Jump to postFor the BTV watchers, I think everyone knows that AA is all-RJ at BTV for the summer peak season. But I was poking through the schedules and found that AA does a turnabout and brings mainline back on PHL-BTV in early Oct, with 3x/day E190s (in addition to 2x/day RJs). The 3x/day E190s continue into...
Jump to postA few notes on the BTV-DEN route: Today was the first UA flight, and according to a video posted by BTV the arriving flight (A320) was full and there were over 140 passengers on the outgoing flight. Meanwhile, F9 has added Saturday flights to DEN for the month of June, which I don't believe was part...
Jump to postDL's Summer season starts 6/8. Changes from 1x 717, to 2x (737 and CR9). I'll be on the 737 on the 11th. Somehow my first true mainline to/from BTV from the Big 3. Most people probably wouldn't give a 737-700 a second glance. After all, Southwest operates 500+. But the DL 737-700 is a very rare bir...
Jump to postSo I have moved from Vermont post-highschool, but still actively follow BTV and still have family up there. For those in the know, where is BTV on future expansion? I know they have the hotel which has been some years in the works, but terminal wise, airline wise anything? If F9 sticks and add more...
Jump to postYep, I can confirm BTV's plan to create a post-TSA walkway, connecting the North and South terminals. The cost is expected to be $300,000 and construction could start next month. https://go.boarddocs.com/vt/burlingtonvt/Board.nsf/files/BCMTBN5F8316/$file/FY19%20Budget%20Amendment%20Airport%20Commis...
Jump to postOY (Omni Air) flew a military charter to BTV today with a 772. I believe this might be the first 777 at BTV. Does anyone know differently?
Jump to postSmart move. Not sure on the gate situation, but could help split up a airline utilizing N and S concourses if they are anticipating some additional flights to come in the future from say F9. For example UA could use a gate on both N and S side and their PAX would be able to enter and traverse the c...
Jump to postI only see 15 empty seats on the BTV-ORD segment today. The 739 is alot larger than a 319. Looks like there was a need for extra seats, so it kind of worked out today. UA was not flying any mainline to BTV in April, and I don't think May is that much better for traffic, so maybe there is a frequenc...
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