I'd guess that the jetOpinions branding is supposed to associate somewhat with Jet Blue without being mistaken for an actual Jet Blue entity.
Jump to postCheck this out. G4 #9204 from SFB-SYR got all the way to the DC area and then just decided to do a u-turn and go back to SFB. WTH? https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAY9204 That doesn't look like a regular flight. 9204 seems to be one-off routes. Maybe it was a re-positioning flight and something...
Jump to postCan you give us any examples? ERI, BTV, ABE,ILM. I don't count Canada. It's a civic pride thing. BTV had scheduled seasonal service from YTZ on Porter for the past few years. It also gets around 3-4 international GA arrivals per day according to Flightaware plus regular untracked GA and military/go...
Jump to postI'm thinking 'competition' means that DL is looking for the best incentives/risk sharing package since neither route looks like a sure thing?
Jump to postPortlander wrote:2018 enplanements: PWM 2,134,430 MHT 1,818,265 BTV ???????
btvhopper wrote:This is a dumb question, but does BGR get EAS funding? That’s an absolute game changer for getting an airline to serve the BOS route.
So BTV UGE is currently short over 15 employees. If they would go mainline the station would get a huge upgrade. I see BTV Changing to mainline very soon. The contract jobs just can’t do it like the mainline guys/girls. Also mainline pays better and would help attract more people to apply. UGE, lik...
Jump to postConcord Coach and C&J Trailways basically is the turboprop commuter line of Logan which came in place after Business Express and other props folded going to BOS. With over 10 runs from Portland, there would never be a flight to BOS and being 2 hours away makes no sense. BTV has greyhound to Sou...
Jump to postROC certainly makes more sense on the face of it, but as noted there are already two airlines serving ROC-BOS, so that should make it a bit more difficult choice. It still seems strange to me that DL would want to make it a 3-way competition at ROC. Regarding connections, I would much rather make a ...
Jump to postAs the article notes, there were once a great many BOS-BTV flights, on several carriers. But each of those carriers apparently found the market to be less than profitable. What has changed to make it potentially better? Unless roads are bad, the drive is not much than three hours. I agree that both...
Jump to postGuess I could have added UA's Saturday mainline to DEN which starts in June. So if we pick a Saturday during the summer PWM could have around 23 mainline flights which is the most I can ever recall. Maybe hopper would know historically because there were quite a few mainline flights in the late 90'...
Jump to postThere isn’t a ron Btv-Den because BTV DOESNT HAVE CATERING. Also if UA starts Ron a den flight we can welcome back mainline employees. See BTV UA is run By UGE. So United mainline employees do not work at BTV. UA mainline will come back of planes operate for 6 months or more. This is per there unio...
Jump to postI didn’t look at the timing of the DEN flights much. They must really be focused on nonstop O&D then. I think it does exist. Anyway, the timing is definitely one of the reason why I would’ve much preferred an RON, say Friday inbound to BTV (or PWM since these are essentially identical routes), ...
Jump to postIt seems kind of crazy a flight as short as BOS-LGA would be allowed to take off if it wasn't going to be ok to land? We are talking 180 miles! The plane on takeoff is getting ready to be lined up in the hold to land into LGA. Seems like it should have just been delayed in BOS. Longer flights sure ...
Jump to postIf you are going off the OAG post they only list changes from the same month the previous year. It looks like DL does have two dailies in July and August but they did last year as well so the OAG list would not show anything. Did they last year? IIRC it was only one daily to ATL (and usually A320, ...
Jump to postLooks like DL is adding a 2nd daily for BTV-ATL for the summer. With AA retrenching a tad bit (5 dailies to PHL this summer vs 6--all mainline--dailies last year) it's nice to DL fill a void a bit that should keep price pressure on UA. Looks like the 2nd ATL flight is a CRJ900, while former mainlin...
Jump to postI am a little surprised they went with a 320, seems like a perfect EMB route to me. For 1x weekly it's catering to ski and snowboard traffic which is actually a pretty smart move on their part. Recall if you have "The Pass" for the winter season in CO, some packages allow for skiing in St...
Jump to postCan you post the numbers for DEN? There's a lot of talk about how good the numbers are, but I don't think anyone's actually shown them. Here are the numbers for 2017 and 2018. This is daily each way: 2017 Q1 34 2017 Q2 41 2017 Q3 51 2017 Q4 46 2018 Q1 39 2018 Q2 53 You can get this here: https://da...
Jump to postDEN has been a long-sought route. It's the 2nd most popular destination (after SFO) for BTV-originating passengers of all airports not currently serviced with nonstop. The number of Vermonters now with Epic Passes will create a lot of demand in the winter. If they can make the 3x weekly work in the...
Jump to postAs of the Sept 2018 numbers PBG was down 20% year over year, so I think some rightsizing happened. I can't find the airline report right now, but I think I looked a while back and the NK numbers had dropped. It looks like someone did MCO but dropped it last year.
Jump to postI don't have any data to back up, but I would guess that a majority of B6's customer base at BTV is O&D w/ JFK rather than connections. As far as connections I would guess most BTV-based B6 passengers are headed to the west coast; many redeye options from JFK to SFO and SEA, which are popular d...
Jump to postGreat marquee route for BTV, they're longest scheduled route ever, by far. Also stands a good chance of giving BTV its first A320 NEO service. We all know Quebec travels (at least those that travel to BTV, or PBG for that matter) are very price-sensitive so F9 is probably able to find a market that...
Jump to postThis was mentioned on another discussion, but it seems worth noting here that Frontier will be starting BTV-DEN in February in addition to MCO. It looks like it is 2x/week for a couple of weeks in February, 1x/week for April and May and then 3x/week through the summer. It also looks like a third wee...
Jump to postBTV could do well. The times are a little weird. Can't see any connections on the Eastbound flights. Who wants to leave DEN that early too, not too appealing for leisure travelers. If you were in Vail you would have to leave your condo at like 3am to make the flight. It looks like the schedule is a...
Jump to postThis is not directly BOS, but a case in point about restarting - the only scheduled flight into BTV yesterday, and the only one to leave so far today - B6!
Jump to postOther airlines may not be cancelling, but how much are they actually flying? Flightaware only shows three departures from BOS in the past hour...
Jump to postUA mainline's load factor was only 73% for November; would BTV be at risk of losing some of the mainline service to EWR or ORD at that level? 73% of a mainline aircraft is still more than anything else that United has available, so they would have to switch to an RJ and then hope that the other sch...
Jump to postI wonder how difficult would it be for BTV to connect their two gate areas? Right now it's gates 1-7, then 8-15 seperated. They would only need one TSA screening section, would feel larger, more seating area walking room etc. They could also keep one store/restaurnat open later for delays etc There...
Jump to postSo for the record WN wanted to fly out of BTV. They wanted roughly 5-6 flights a day and the airport said no. They wanted there own gate and counter space. BTV Airports felt it wouldn’t be a good mix for BTV. Well they went to PWM and look what happened. Competition in this market is good for price...
Jump to postFor BTV the focus has to be at keeping B6. The airlines are competitive on price closer to BOS, ALB, NYC prices than MHT, they need options to keep prices down and keep things good. You don't want to fall back into high prices. The airlines are competitive right now and things are good. I have gott...
Jump to postFor BTV, if I had to bet money I would predict not a lot of change. However, since there is no fun in that here's what I see as best case/worst case possibilities: Best Case - Frontier extends MCO beyond the current Feb-Apr schedule and adds DEN. - Somebody makes BTV's fondest desire a reality and a...
Jump to postDelta upgrades BTV-LGA to mainline (A320 too) for the first time this week. I've been hoping/waiting to see mainline on DTW too, but not yet. ATL and LGA for now. https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL483/history/20181222/1110Z/KBTV/KLGA I have bad news for you...that was a one time thing. All fli...
Jump to postMost likely seasonal. Same with PVD is seasonal. Yep, seasonal. Both DEN-PWM and PWM-RDU are due to resume on May 1. Somehow I missed that detail when service commenced. Thank you! I guess Frontier intended this flight to be more for leisure travel to Maine, during Maine's peak season, as opposed t...
Jump to postI believe that Allegiant used a ramp when they were at BTV. There is still a ramp (maybe the same one?) sitting around that is branded for United, but I have never seen it in use.
Jump to postIt's worth noting that Deputy Aviation Director Nic Lungo mentioned re-paving of the concrete around the terminal will allow the accommodation of "Larger planes." Also, this is an airport management that likes to be tight-lipped about expansion plans; so just because they're not public ab...
Jump to postBTV is a totally different market and more favorable because of the potential to draw from the 4.2m Montreal area, where TATL flights face higher Canadian fees and fuel costs. The province is very, very close to completing Autoroute 35, which will offer seemless freeway service from Montreal connec...
Jump to postI would love to see a 2-3x weekly transatlantic flight of they can put a customs/immigration station inside the terminal. Same here - I've been quietly hoping that BTV would move forward with an in-terminal customs facility, to beat PBG to the punch with Montreal-oriented transatlantic service. Cus...
Jump to postN766UA wrote:Porter served BTV??
mtnwest1979 wrote:And all those that thought that this would be a viable route please stand up...…..
Does anyone have LF's for the Porter BTV flights? AC on the DH4 may be a player and may do ok based off of YYZ's connections. Porter was a very niche route. Porter was a big win for BTV back when they started, I would be happy with a trade off of losing YTZ and adding DEN on UA or F9. Just given th...
Jump to postfor BTV and Porter I can see the airport was a struggle for Porter. Burlington has a very good job market, and its hard to get a reliable person at minimum wage for such a short term job. This same person also needs to have a very flexible schedule who can also stay when the plane is running late e...
Jump to postAnd anybody flying from BTV or PWM to NYC can expect fares to go up dramatically once JetBlue leaves and Delta jacks up fares. For a decade you've been able to get flights from PWM-JFK for $70-90 each way thanks to JetBlue setting the rate. Fares to LGA and EWR with AA or UA often are matched to th...
Jump to postSpeaking of BTV, the airport just had its 2nd best October ever (best since ‘07, pre-recession). Delta is growing nearly 40% YOY. They’re flying to DTW at a much higher frequency on regionals, and upgraded ATL from MD88 to 737-800...not sure what else it could be. Most remarkable is that this growt...
Jump to postJust curious, which table do you use to look up connections traffic as fraction of total traffic? I was looking at Table 1. For Q2 2018 it shows B6 as the lowest fare carrier for BTV-NY Metro at 38% market share, so I think that should produce the O&D number which would be ~30% of their total B...
Jump to postHow much will BOS service help for providing new connections and seats to drive prices down? The problem with BOS service I think will be (as it has in the past) is a lot of people will say they really want, but they won't actually buy even if round-trip prices are under $130. There are two many fi...
Jump to postHi all, I tend to post most of my stats on the BOS thread, but I do keep an eye on the other New England States too, so i've had a chance to run some numbers and here they are: https://drive.google.com/open?id=15G6hicwxBlQuGih8vOR2grgeDQ6VPDuq I've pulled Domestic numbers through August (YTD, QTD a...
Jump to postHi all, I tend to post most of my stats on the BOS thread, but I do keep an eye on the other New England States too, so i've had a chance to run some numbers and here they are: https://drive.google.com/open?id=15G6hicwxBlQuGih8vOR2grgeDQ6VPDuq I've pulled Domestic numbers through August (YTD, QTD a...
Jump to postFor those interested, just a reminder that Frontier commenced PWM to TPA and RSW this week. They now serve DEN, RDU, MCO, TPA and RSW from PWM. Just tried them on LAS-MCO-PWM two weeks ago for $160 one-way and was satisfied with the experience. Not any better or worse than economy on DL, UA, AA. An...
Jump to postPBG only has a few flights a day but they are spread out around the clock, including an NK departure scheduled at around 3am.
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