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by 77west
Sun Jul 07, 2013 12:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OZ 777 Crash At SFO Part 2
Replies: 257
Views: 131844

RE: OZ 777 Crash At SFO Part 2

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/oly720man" class="quote" target="_blank">oly720man</a> (<a href="#202" class="quote">Reply 202</a>):<br/><i>With all caveats about the accuracy ...

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by 77west
Sun Jul 07, 2013 12:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OZ 777 Crash At SFO Part 2
Replies: 257
Views: 131844

RE: OZ 777 Crash At SFO Part 2

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/FedExFlyerPHL" class="quote" target="_blank">FedExFlyerPHL</a> (<a href="#193" class="quote">Reply 193</a>):<br/><i>It's a VERY dangerous assump...

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by 77west
Sun Jul 07, 2013 12:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OZ 777 Crash At SFO Part 2
Replies: 257
Views: 131844

RE: OZ 777 Crash At SFO Part 2

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/pilotaydin" class="quote" target="_blank">pilotaydin</a> (<a href="#178" class="quote">Reply 178</a>):<br/><i>Quoting 77West (Reply 174): i agre...

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by 77west
Sun Jul 07, 2013 12:21 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OZ 777 Crash At SFO Part 2
Replies: 257
Views: 131844

RE: OZ 777 Crash At SFO Part 2

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/xdlx" class="quote" target="_blank">xdlx</a> (<a href="#169" class="quote">Reply 169</a>):<br/><i>Quoting 77West (Reply 154): Is too early to fo...

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by 77west
Sun Jul 07, 2013 12:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OZ 777 Crash At SFO Part 2
Replies: 257
Views: 131844

RE: OZ 777 Crash At SFO Part 2

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/cvervais" class="quote" target="_blank">cvervais</a> (<a href="#153" class="quote">Reply 153</a>):<br/><i>This is kinda interesting though, the ...

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by 77west
Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OZ 777 Crash At SFO Part 2
Replies: 257
Views: 131844

RE: OZ 777 Crash At SFO Part 2

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/dashman" class="quote" target="_blank">dashman</a> (<a href="#152" class="quote">Reply 152</a>):<br/><i>RNAV approaches have vertical guidance, ...

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by 77west
Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OZ 777 Crash At SFO Part 2
Replies: 257
Views: 131844

RE: OZ 777 Crash At SFO Part 2

Below are a few of the last data points. I agree with 7BOEING7 that the 109 was probably on the ground. What is interesting is that even at 600ft they were a little slow at 141, and speed continued to bleed off, 123 at 300 would be the clue here, even with altimeter adjustment. 06:26 37.5900 -122.30...

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by 77west
Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OZ 777 Crash At SFO Part 2
Replies: 257
Views: 131844

RE: OZ 777 Crash At SFO Part 2

Can someone who knows how to post on of those altitudespeed graph type things that google earth can create off flightaware data? This would give some interesting info as to what was happening in the final phase of the landing.

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by 77west
Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OZ 777 Crash At SFO Part 2
Replies: 257
Views: 131844

RE: OZ 777 Crash At SFO Part 2

Just for reference, according to Boeing the approach speed for a 777-200ER is: Aircraft Airport Reference Code and Approach Speeds for Boeing Airplanes Boeing 777-200ER C-V 139 Now before anyone jumps on me, I realize that this does vary, but still 109kt is too slow unless you have already landed!

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by 77west
Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OZ 777 Crash At SFO Part 2
Replies: 257
Views: 131844

RE: OZ 777 Crash At SFO Part 2

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/topgun3" class="quote" target="_blank">topgun3</a> (<a href="#132" class="quote">Reply 132</a>):<br/><i/></font></td></tr></table><table border=...

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by 77west
Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OZ 777 Crash At SFO Part 2
Replies: 257
Views: 131844

RE: OZ 777 Crash At SFO Part 2

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/tfad2010" class="quote" target="_blank">tfad2010</a> (<a href="#122" class="quote">Reply 122</a>):<br/><i/></font></td></tr></table> How accurat...

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by 77west
Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OZ 777 Crash At SFO Part 2
Replies: 257
Views: 131844

RE: OZ 777 Crash At SFO Part 2

Hi guys. I don't post very often, but I think all these comparisons to BA38 etc and reports of pilot error should be taken into context, what we know as fact is that part of the aircraft, probably the right main gear, but possibly the lower tail area, contacted the seawall, we know for a fact the ai...

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by 77west
Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:53 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Upper Deck Galley Elevator On 747-8
Replies: 18
Views: 19973

RE: Upper Deck Galley Elevator On 747-8

The entire fuselage plug was extended, so in theory the upper and lower deck galley should still be in the same place relative to each other. But I still don't see an elevator there..?

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by 77west
Sat Jun 13, 2009 1:05 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: FBW? WHY?
Replies: 48
Views: 13125

RE: FBW? WHY?

Kind of like saying why use 2 engines instead of 4. Money. Consumers want cheaper flights, fuel costs a lot, so we reduce empty weights and decrease fuel burn. FBW systems are one way of reducing the weight of aircraft as well as simplifying and removing many repair and maintenance jobs. A 777 that ...

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