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by VTORD
Wed May 22, 2019 7:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - May 2019
Replies: 347
Views: 35223

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - May 2019

http://www.airindia.in/newsdetail.htm?693
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Not sure if this was posted here:
AI is making a stop in ARN for DEL-ORD on the west bound leg.
http://www.airindia.in/newsdetail.htm?693

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by VTORD
Tue May 21, 2019 2:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1982
Views: 252456

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

Where are the small townies who spoke of too little demand for long hauls from BOM. Back to back 9W's capacity is being restored at BOM, long haul too. Speaks of how lucrative the market remains out of the financial capital. They'll never learn ..... . Since you ask, I do have a life outside of ANe...

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by VTORD
Mon May 20, 2019 5:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - May 2019
Replies: 347
Views: 35223

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - May 2019

Is 400+ enough to fill a B77W and 100's of 1 stop connections? AI's decision is in everyway sensible. More pitiful thing is there's a demand of only 400 daily pax for BOM-NYC. True that. 400 seems to be extremely low for BOM-NYC. that being the case, definitely good decision. I'm not saying that th...

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by VTORD
Mon May 20, 2019 6:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA retimes LHR-BOM Flight
Replies: 33
Views: 7582

Re: BA retimes LHR-BOM Flight

tighter inventory = bigger profits :) 10 years ago when I flew LHR-BOM regularly, BA was flying twice daily 744s. Plus Jet twice daily and Virgin as well. Now BA is up to 18 per week but on smaller planes, so must be significantly fewer seats on the route than back then. All goung via DXB/AUH I gue...

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by VTORD
Thu May 16, 2019 9:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1982
Views: 252456

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

Beggars can't be choosers. They must take what they have. And if they resist BOM/DEL, they'll have zero options left to connect on a single ticket to rest of the world. Try flying Vadodara to the rest of the world and see what convenient options you really have. Have been doing exactly that for the...

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by VTORD
Tue May 14, 2019 4:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1982
Views: 252456

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

It's not what everyone wants, only desi small town residents here on a.net. Since for them, they ANYWAYS have to take a one-stop or more to connect globally be it through Dubai, Doha, Singapore, Mumbai or Delhi. But for mega city pax it definitely does matter, especially for those who value time an...

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by VTORD
Sun May 12, 2019 4:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: At DL flying is a family affair
Replies: 58
Views: 7913

Re: At DL flying is a family affair

I don't know if this has been posted anywhere on here but I found it interesting to see this video of a female Delta captain and her daughter flying a 757 together and the youngest sister is also a DL pilot. I have seen this before at other airlines occasionally it's more usually father and son and...

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by VTORD
Fri May 10, 2019 4:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - May 2019
Replies: 347
Views: 35223

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - May 2019

Would LH allow AI to code share with DL?. How does that matter? I haven't checked the up-to-date status of AI-LH code shares but AFAIK, it's minimal and they have the interline that comes with being in Star Alliance. LH has absolutely no authority over AI whatsoever, Any chance AI is trying to add ...

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by VTORD
Fri May 03, 2019 8:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UPDATED: Delta announces JFK-BOM
Replies: 1074
Views: 167549

Re: Delta to serve Mumbai nonstop in 2019

Key reasons IMO: 1. People do not need a visa if they are flying from the US if the h1b/l1 visa has expired on their passport. European carriers require a transit visa which implies a trip to the embassy. I was under the same impression but as pointed out by DTWLAX a few posts above, now only LHR n...

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by VTORD
Wed May 01, 2019 5:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - May 2019
Replies: 347
Views: 35223

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - May 2019

I wanted to ask about e-mail messages that I just got from British Airways. This is for India flights fairly far into the future. I was surprised to see two notifications of equipment changes . BA119 from London to Bangalore in mid-December is now on a 4-class Boeing 787-9. It was booked on a three...

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by VTORD
Wed May 01, 2019 5:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UPDATED: Delta announces JFK-BOM
Replies: 1074
Views: 167549

Re: UPDATED: Delta announces JFK-BOM

If Delta could start next month itself, it would be a roaring success, With Jet's demise fares and yields have gone thru the roof. Y fares today is almost as high as the cheapest J fares before the crisis(yes granted the really terrible airlines with badish connections). Many people I know have can...

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by VTORD
Wed May 01, 2019 1:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UPDATED: Delta announces JFK-BOM
Replies: 1074
Views: 167549

Re: Delta to serve Mumbai nonstop in 2019

So all the people who proclaimed that the financial issues with 9W were keeping Delta from starting BOM really had no clue because 9W ceases operations and Delta starts BOM. Great news that Delta chose JFK because New York is a established world gateway unlike Atlanta which is nothing more than an ...

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by VTORD
Wed May 01, 2019 1:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - May 2019
Replies: 347
Views: 35223

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - May 2019

While this is good news, what are the connecting options in Mumbai with a middle of the night arrival time? I don't know who the domestic partner will be. Personally I was one of those skeptics who thought this route won't materialize w/o 9W but happy to be proven wrong. From a timings stand point ...

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by VTORD
Wed May 01, 2019 1:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - May 2019
Replies: 347
Views: 35223

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - May 2019

SQ is not even close to LH (I think they are frenemies at best). Vistara could even use SQ planes (or pilots) to get the routes started. For what ever reason it is like Vistara/tatas want to ensure Jet is 100% dead. We all have accepted / moved on, but they are still hesitant. Who knows what they a...

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by VTORD
Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - May 2019
Replies: 347
Views: 35223

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - May 2019

https://news.delta.com/nonstop-mumbai-n ... gin-dec-22

JFK 21:15 - BOM 22:50 +1
BOM 00.50 - JFK 06:35

Equipment: 77L.
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Here is the link to Delta's news hub:

https://news.delta.com/nonstop-mumbai-n ... gin-dec-22

JFK 21:15 - BOM 22:50 +1
BOM 00.50 - JFK 06:35

Equipment: 77L.

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by VTORD
Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1982
Views: 252456

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

AVIER. Uhh, do even have a tad bit of understanding of the aviation sector? I ask because you are 100% wrong in the above post. You gave a BIG LECTURE on how much YOU supposedly know. By the way, Vistara took on 6 of Jet's planes and they are 737 NG planes not even the A320 that was previously in V...

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by VTORD
Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - April 2019
Replies: 455
Views: 39949

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - April 2019

I think one city out of BOM, BLR, HYD, MAA will get a SFO nonstop IF UA's SFO-DEL does well. To be honest, I think UA flying nonstop to DEL probably solves a lot of UA's India issues from SFO. With Jet closing, UA will need a new connecting partner. 6 months ago, I would have said UA should start S...

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by VTORD
Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1982
Views: 252456

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

http://www.indialegallive.com/spotlight ... gged-64714
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This is a good analysis of the Jet crisis and larger issues thereof by Jitendra Bhargav:
http://www.indialegallive.com/spotlight ... gged-64714

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by VTORD
Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - April 2019
Replies: 455
Views: 39949

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - April 2019

The JAL flight is not just for SFO/IT pax but to develop the BLR-APAC market aswell. The BLR-NRT market is growing well & the demand is quiet high. Not everything is connected to IT. There's a lot more to do than just IT, cargo being one of them. After 3 years of intense negotiations JAL is Lan...

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by VTORD
Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:16 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - April 2019
Replies: 455
Views: 39949

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - April 2019

The MAA and BLR flights do not conveniently connect to the SFO flight unless you prefer sitting in NRT (Japan) airport for 12 hours. You think techies like to kill 12 hours that way? Are you out of your mind? Note that the BLR flight to NRT on Japan Air Lines (JAL) doesn't have any connecting fligh...

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by VTORD
Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - April 2019
Replies: 455
Views: 39949

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - April 2019

JAL have had the 787 since 2012. I think the demand has increased a lot, fueled several Japanese big companies' offices as well as the fact that all big Investment Banks now have their back offices at BLR so finance traffic between BLR and TKO has also increased. Goes without saying about demand. O...

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by VTORD
Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1982
Views: 252456

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

I say, this is absolutely preposterous. You have an established, settled home in Mumbai with a spouse and kids; you are in dire straits now that 9W is grounded; a job calls you to, say, HCMC to work for VietJetAir with a significantly higher salary. Tell me, when shifting from Mumbai to Delhi is it...

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by VTORD
Mon Apr 22, 2019 2:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1982
Views: 252456

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

Why AI need to look at A330 ? The question is why AI need to be looking at leasing ANY wide-bodies at all. They can't fully utilize the ones they have but want to lease from outside. Maybe they want to cannibalize these and get their own planes in the air. They are AI so nothing will surprise me TBH.

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by VTORD
Mon Apr 22, 2019 2:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1982
Views: 252456

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

VTORD - You need to update yourself. This was the case before, not anymore. And I can say that for sure because I was in the same situation as you with the expired H-1B visa but transited through those airports without any issue. No transit visa required at all for AMS and CDG. CDG got rid of the r...

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by VTORD
Sun Apr 21, 2019 12:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1982
Views: 252456

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

With regards to Indians needing transit visas for AMS, ZRH, FRA and CDG, I have checked again through the IATA Timatic software and the rules stated for check in pax holding Indian passports are as follows: AMS + ZRH + FRA + MUC + CDG - no transit visa required if travelling onwards to EU UK and No...

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by VTORD
Sun Apr 21, 2019 12:21 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1982
Views: 252456

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

3. Because of the silly transit visa requirement, LHR is not a friendly airport to transit for Indian passport holders as opposed AMS, CDG, FRA, ZUR etc. With regards to point 3, Indians do not need a transit visa for UK if they have a valid US/Canada or EU visa existing in their passports. Correct...

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by VTORD
Sat Apr 20, 2019 11:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1982
Views: 252456

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

It wasn't an LHR slot, IIRC. Jet was rumoured to be eyeing the last remaining, 7 weekly flying rights on the Indian side (as part of the India-UK bilateral) that AI had the first right of refusal to. Apparently, 9W wanted to start a second DEL-LHR on a B773, probably on slots borrowed from one of t...

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by VTORD
Sat Apr 20, 2019 3:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1982
Views: 252456

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

Thanks! I moved to SF from DC back in 2014 and did not recall seeing Jet Airways ever at SFO. The BOM-PVG-SFO route seems (on paper) like it would be a sure winner. What happened to it that is was so short lived? The global meltdown + crude hit 140. My room mate at college had used that flight I re...

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by VTORD
Sat Apr 20, 2019 3:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1982
Views: 252456

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

Only 13 of their MAXes were grounded. They are getting far more aircraft in a very short period. Don't expect those additional planes will be grounded. They will have pilots, staff, etc., etc., etc., that you earlier said would be difficult to get at short notice. They did what naysayers like you s...

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by VTORD
Fri Apr 19, 2019 4:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1982
Views: 252456

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

lightsaber wrote:
I read somewhere else over 400 pilots have left Jet. Sorry I forgot to grab the link.
Lightsaber


I think you are talking about the news where 400 Jet pilots interviewed at SG. I recall the post in the previous thread. All 400 may not have been hired.

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by VTORD
Thu Apr 18, 2019 2:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1982
Views: 252456

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

This was quite unexpected https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/give-us-5-boeing-777-of-jet-airways-on-lease-air-india-tells-sbi/articleshow/68941517.cms?utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=iOSapp Air India requesting SBI to lease Five of Jet Airways’ Boeing 777-300ER 2 of th...

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by VTORD
Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1982
Views: 252456

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

An interesting read about Mr. Goyal and his ways of doing things.. Jet Airways Naresh Goyal's folly: How to crash a business https://m.economictimes.com/industry/transportation/airlines-/-aviation/jet-airways-naresh-goyals-folly-how-to-crash-a-business/articleshow/68930916.cms Also Mods take note ,...

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by VTORD
Wed Apr 17, 2019 6:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1982
Views: 252456

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

Re LHR:
Doesn't AI still run their AMD-LHR on the Dreamliner? Not sure how the a/c is currently routed but can this be a tag on to BOM and add capacity assuming slot constraints at LHR?

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by VTORD
Wed Apr 17, 2019 4:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways Updated: Operations suspended
Replies: 3319
Views: 409732

Re: Jet Airways Latest Developments Discussion Thread

Btw Delta.com is still selling Jet award flights for winter season. So strange. Tons of availability!!! Even ANA and others are selling Jet flights in the winter. Interesting. Yup! Was checking some SFO-BOM for the winter and sure enough SFO-DEL-BOM is available on UA-9W. Interesting though that la...

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by VTORD
Wed Apr 17, 2019 4:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - April 2019
Replies: 455
Views: 39949

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - April 2019

6E's new flights using Jet slots at BOM/DEL below. Note: They are cunningly using these slots for adding new flights on routes not even operated by Jet, so doesn't help in utilizing these slots well enough for the shortage in Jet vacated routes completely. These are to stations like Bhubaneswar/Ran...

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by VTORD
Tue Apr 16, 2019 1:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways Updated: Operations suspended
Replies: 3319
Views: 409732

Re: Jet Airways Latest Developments Discussion Thread

What has Modi got to do with SG? What is the connection? And if Modi does become the PM again, is he planning to keep funding SG for the next 5 years? The "reasoning" is that the promoter of SpiceJet Ajay Singh is close to the PM (he coined the campaign slogan for him the last time around...

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by VTORD
Mon Apr 15, 2019 1:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 1252
Views: 192142

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2019

Double-edged sword, as I mentioned earlier the India connections boost this flight a lot, however DL is getting ready to start n/s US-India service which could put a sizable dent in IND-CDG-India travel The non-stop flight is just speculation at this point. I'll believe it when I see it. There's a ...

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by VTORD
Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 1252
Views: 192142

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2019

Excellent question. LHR-IND would get boosts with cargo based upon the RR plant in Indy if the the CFM (GE/Safran) model holds true (CVG-CDG). The pax numbers would also, supposedly, be better because of Indy and London businesses ties (RR and Eli Lilly). I think LHR would be the best TATL for Indy...

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by VTORD
Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 1252
Views: 192142

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2019

I don't see DL adding any London routes because there is no close partner in London like DL has with AF and KLM. AA or BA to London would be next and DL or KLM to AMS on the third. IMHO AMS is vastly superior to make connections over CDG however that is secondary to point-to-point revenue that Lond...

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by VTORD
Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - April 2019
Replies: 455
Views: 39949

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - April 2019

Or route JFK/ORD via BOM. AI should also consider flying USA to BOM nonstop for these flights, since the routes to DEL nearly overfly it anyways. Then they can sell tickets solely for BOM-USA- BOM nonstop and connect passengers through there. I would imagine JFK/ORD-BOM should have a good amount of...

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by VTORD
Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Will Indian airlines continue flying to Canada?
Replies: 41
Views: 5336

Re: No Indian airlines flying to Canada?

Yeah, the 2 names I don't trust just because you can tell they are given preferential treatment in some of their videos of recent times. I find non-stop Dan quite irritating TBH but back to topic.... Indian diaspora in Canada is not quite as big as the US or UK but the next 5 years could change tha...

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by VTORD
Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Will Indian airlines continue flying to Canada?
Replies: 41
Views: 5336

Re: No Indian airlines flying to Canada?

AC website lists AI as a code share partner so given that AI is Star Alliance, it should at least be able to interline and provide BOM/DEL onward connectivity. In recent years, AI used to have a YYZ flight I believe but it used to be prior to their DEL-hub days. Depending upon how 9W situation unfol...

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by VTORD
Sat Apr 06, 2019 6:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways Updated: Operations suspended
Replies: 3319
Views: 409732

Re: Jet Airways: reports cash running out

This never should have gone this long. Goyal should be prosecuted. Lightsaber What are they going to charge him with? Being an egotistical megalomaniac? Unless banks find grounds to brand him a "willful defaulter" like Mallya, which I don't see happening here. Because the elections are no...

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by VTORD
Fri Apr 05, 2019 8:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA suspends EWR-DEL to 8th of May
Replies: 49
Views: 10076

Re: UA suspends EWR-DEL for two weeks from 4/5

I don't recall UA ever diverting to one of these airports if they couldn't land at BOM, they have an operation at DEL so they many times diverted to DEL due to severe weather and other reasons, even though that is further from BOM than HYD/AMD. Of course UA won't divert to SIN, the point is that th...

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by VTORD
Fri Apr 05, 2019 6:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA suspends EWR-DEL to 8th of May
Replies: 49
Views: 10076

Re: UA suspends EWR-DEL for two weeks from 4/5

I actually don't think BOM will last much longer, especially without DEL. Now BOM is at least 5-6 hrs from the nearest UA destination (SIN), may be risky in case of an emergency. (From personal experience BOM flights would sometimes reroute to DEL if there was an emergency at BOM.) Not to mention f...

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by VTORD
Fri Apr 05, 2019 5:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways Updated: Operations suspended
Replies: 3319
Views: 409732

Re: Jet Airways: reports cash running out

On the topic of Vistara, they seem to be ok if that is what replaces 9W, but with only about 20 frames I can’t see them being able to secure enough slots at BOM before the spoils of Jet’s demise are split up between everyone else. And thats without mentioning the fact there basically won’t be an ma...

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by VTORD
Thu Mar 28, 2019 8:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways Updated: Operations suspended
Replies: 3319
Views: 409732

Re: Jet Airways: reports cash running out

edealinfo wrote:
sources in the know say Naresh Goyal, who still holds 25 per cent in Jet, is considering looking for a partner as he is allowed to bid.

Me: Popcorn time! :stirthepot:

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by VTORD
Sun Mar 24, 2019 5:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AC flights from DEL now via CPH. Are other North America-India routes affected?
Replies: 43
Views: 8251

Re: AC flights from DEL now via CPH. Are other North America-India routes affected?

Well AI seems to be getting quite a few people from HYD connecting in DEL to their nonstops (take ORD for instance). AI126/127 is actually a HYD-DEL-ORD routing. The same a/c completes continues to/from HYD North vs South india has nothing to do with it. Some poeple (from Noth and South) don’t mind...

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by VTORD
Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways Updated: Operations suspended
Replies: 3319
Views: 409732

Re: Jet Airways: reports cash running out

I can’t find any reports that Say that Jet is now only operating flights from Mumbai and New Delhi alone and no other Indian city. where did you read it? I just booked a flight for IAH-BLR on QR. When I checked last week I had the option of 9W from AMS - its not showing anymore. I am glad in a way ...

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by VTORD
Fri Mar 22, 2019 4:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - March 2019
Replies: 382
Views: 33115

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - March 2019

Will any of you members feel the loss of Jet Airways (should the airline shut down, which is very likely)? Have you enjoyed its service at any point? Or do you feel ‘Good riddance to 9W’ deep within your soul? In ways I never even imagined until you asked this question :( For at least 10 years, 9W'...

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