Great idea as it would make football much more in line with big trademarks like the NHL and the NBA. It would also free team brands from the chains of being linked to one city, they could become global. Imagine clubs based all around the globe and with the best players in one league. Arsenal Dubai h...
Jump to postI think "fully digital" is way more about how the product is designed (CAD/PLM toolset, digital twin, Model based Systems Engineering - MBSE) than about how the aircraft is controlled in flight. How do Boeing leverage MANUFACTURING cost and schedule advantages out of digital design tools ...
Jump to postHow familiar are you with "all digital design and new production methods"? What disruptive new production methods are you thinking of? And how does an all digital design benefit them? And how does that compare to "legacy" products? I do note that we have moved from to add the &q...
Jump to postThey need some one who can change the culture and give the company new meaning. I think somebody from the outside and probably not from the aviation sector, maybe not even engineering.
Jump to postThat is all well and true. But not really what I was expecting re the answer, what disruptive technology might be useable for NMA or NSA/NMA combination. It is either using very conservative design solutions w.r.t. propulsion (jet engine on any sort of kerosene) or it won't be ready prior 2050. I t...
Jump to postIt is not better in the academia world, as ,at least in Europe, working on your doctorate involves huge amounts of ass kissing. I found my solution in switching sides and starting to work for the regulator. Yes, it is public service so it pays less, but the environment is a lot less competitive and ...
Jump to postThe only advantage is their development and manufacturing processes are maturing as they develop T-7A and MQ-25, so "lessons learned" will be available for the much larger commercial aircraft project. To be honest I still do not see the magic of the T-7A. Saab adds a lot and compared to t...
Jump to postSerious question: what do you believe those disrupting technologies might be? Specific, if you may, not just saying some digital work and some new manufacturing technology. The big question for the future is fuel. What kind and at what price. Even if you use green kerosene replacement, the engines ...
Jump to postThey still will need to find something in the gap between the A321 and the A350.
Jump to postAnd the XLR is still a normal A321 for operational purposes. The penalty of using it on short hop is negligible.
Jump to postSo you did say it for effect then. I'm open to being educated about the disruptive technologies that Boeing can apply to revolutionise the industry, that are not going to be available to Airbus which will make them very scared..... Rgds I dare say that "twin aisle for single aisle costs" ...
Jump to postI assume that you post this for effect ........ Rgds If they aim for less, I see no point in the NMA at all. The MAX still has at least 10 years ahead of it and the -10 should not be that uncompetitive. Above that they have the 787, which should win against the A330NEO and the 787 also needs a cons...
Jump to postSokes wrote:I believe an A300/ A330-200 with 210 t MTOW and new wing and new engine is required. Where to get the engine from?
I assume that you post this for effect ........ Rgds [...] there are too many possibly disrupting technologies on the horizon to do a normal design now. Serious question: what do you believe those disrupting technologies might be? Specific, if you may, not just saying some digital work and some new...
Jump to postI think Boeing needs to worry about getting their existing programs running smoothly before they start thinking about revolutionising the industry. They are also cutting 787 production to one line so their thirst for future orders is not as high as it would have been with 2 lines. Yes they can expa...
Jump to postNot if it is something crazy like an 7W-8W with MTOW 175-200T But an NMA AKA NSA-ER with MTOW somewhere in the 110-130T range (either 3x3 or 2-3-2) that could clearly be downsized (different wing/gear/ engines) and held the promise of being able to be produced at quite a low cost - that would cause...
Jump to postWhat announcement would make executives in Toulouse and Hamburg sit up straight, pay attention and make calls? Probably not another $15B MoM defibrillation. Not if it is something crazy like an 7W-8W with MTOW 175-200T But an NMA AKA NSA-ER with MTOW somewhere in the 110-130T range (either 3x3 or 2...
Jump to postIt applies to everything, even in the construction/manufacturing. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjbhP-AyYDwAhUnKFkFHc5vB1wQFjABegQICBAD&url=https%3A%2F%2Fhome.fnal.gov%2F~peterg%2FRDR%2FLearning_Curves.pdf&usg=AOvVaw2ymqD1ez...
Jump to postI think he means type certificate for pilots not the FAA certification of the plane itself.
Jump to postObviously, I was just using the same negative outlook for the XLR as some use for the MAX or NMA.
Jump to postThat would mean that every part has to be certified seperately though. Which means no commonality for spares, etc. That means no economy of scale... How often do you need a spare for a structural item? Sure the MLG is different, but apart from that? It applies to everything, even in the constructio...
Jump to postA NMA OEW of 72t is an ambitious target, if it was much lighter Boeing would have specified lower thrust engines. Plus, the basic design is a basis for significant larger, more capable variants up to 300 seats. That usually doesn't make the short version very light (Ref. A358. 788, 77LR, 737-7, A31...
Jump to postA NMA OEW of 72t is an ambitious target, if it was much lighter Boeing would have specified lower thrust engines. Plus, the basic design is a basis for significant larger, more capable variants up to 300 seats. That usually doesn't make the short version very light (Ref. A358. 788, 77LR, 737-7, A31...
Jump to postHow do you get 6-7 hours 3,000-3,500NM with 250 seats when the A321XLR will struggle with that and by your assumption the A322 will have 1,200NM less range? :scratchchin: https://airbus-h.assetsadobe2.com/is/image/content/dam/stock-and-creative/infographic/A321XLR-infografic.jpg?wid=1920&fit=fi...
Jump to postThe 767 probably is still the best baseline, when looking at the problem. A narrow 8 abreast with about 5500nm range for the short version (about 762 length) combined with a 4500+nm ranged version of around 763 length. Seating in a configuration similar to the A321 @240 seats, would be around 280 fo...
Jump to postThe A322 should never compete against the NMA. If it can, even with a new wing, the NMA has no business case.
Jump to postIf you let the number sink in, it actually says something completely different. If you want to compare the numbers, let us look at the percentage of police officers killed by unarmed African American males.
Jump to postAnd the J&J story is not going to help the public perception of AZ. Especially when you look at the different reactions of both companies.
Jump to postAgree for me it would be 24-70 for quality or 28-300 for versatility.
Jump to postWe're really not talking about "current generation engines" unless you think technology froze in the 00s and GE and Safran learned nothing from GE9X. Feel free to list the engine technologies it's worth waiting till the 30s for, and what they offer in risk vs reward. On the GE-side the ge...
Jump to postThe key point to realize is Boeing has no product in the space above MAX10 to offer at all. Coming out of the gate with an engine sized for your new clean sheet is a game changer. Coming out with an engine sized for the current aircraft on offer will help those who buy CFM on Airbus as much as it h...
Jump to postBut the A321 can also field the GTF and GTF and LEAP will see PiPs in the 2020ies. So the delta will be not that big. PW says, they could offer a GTF Mk.2 after 2030, that should bring about 10% improvement over a GTF fitted on an early A320NEO. They are also aiming at a 3-4% PiP by 2024 and a 2% P...
Jump to postBigger with an advance of a half-generation in tech suggests to me something bigger than LEAP-1A and sized for the needs of the platform, rather than a throttle pushed LEAP-1A. Okay - then a LEAP-2B incorporating GE9X technology and a larger fan would give NMA-5 a propulsive advantage over the A321...
Jump to postBut then how much is a half generation? PW/MTU are aiming for a 3-4% PiP for the GTF to come online by 2024. with another 2% to come at the end of the decade. That´s the benchmark.
Jump to postThey are both publicly traded stock. The very worst they want is to maintain market share even as the need for aviation continues to grow. Investors also want to see revenues and profits going up, and if they are wise/have any common sense, they will insist on long term planning. Boeing is not goin...
Jump to postAnd the OEMs do not want that. As long as both are running at capacity and earn good margins, it is totally okay for Airbus and Boeing to have the MAX with a little advantage in the -7/-8 and the A321 with a little advantage over the -9/-10. A nicely balanced duopoly is perfect for both. They are b...
Jump to postBoeing needs a solid longer term strategy, instead of hoping the 737-10 will do miracles. Airlines want to buy Boeing aircraft, they want competition among OEM's (REF IAG, Qatar) . But they need Boeing offering superior aircraft for the next 30 years. Not failed upgrades of real old ones. And Boein...
Jump to postThe IQ of the 24-120 is worse than the 24-70. For air-to-air one could consider the 28-300 as well, which is highly versatile and the IQ is still acceptable.
Jump to postYou can not fly 5000nm and optimize for 2000nm. This is simply not possible unless you want to fly the 5000nm as a ferry flight. To be honest as mentioned earlier all but one of the 50 busiest routes in the world are under 1200nm. The next airplane will likely be optimized for closer to 1000nm than...
Jump to postAnd I don't believe Airbus has a viable competitor at the NMA-6 and NMA-7 end. And if this market is so "marginal", Airbus might not bother competing there and instead continue to reap the benefits of the A321XLR at the NMA-5 and below space. Simple question if Airbus has no viable compet...
Jump to postI would say the A321 is probably most efficient on routes up to 2000nm due to the wing being designed for small distances and not long cruising. It still can fly way further and the LR even more just by adding ACTs. Do not forget it is not just about the amount of fuel you can load, but also for wh...
Jump to postI seriously doubt that. I would say the A321 is probably most efficient on routes up to 2000nm due to the wing being designed for small distances and not long cruising. It still can fly way further and the LR even more just by adding ACTs. Do not forget it is not just about the amount of fuel you c...
Jump to postYou can not fly 5000nm and optimize for 2000nm. This is simply not possible unless you want to fly the 5000nm as a ferry flight.
Jump to postIn a 8 years pax 757s will be gone, with a NMA and without. And people finally need to look at the 757 sales and usage. Nobody wanted the 757-200X and the use on longer routes only started, with the winglets and when the 757 was replaced on shorter routes by the 737-800. One could easily say, that n...
Jump to postTranspacific range as a dogma requirement is wrong. Less range is even "better" because too much wing and weight and structure will ruin all efficiencies on shorter flights. Take the 787... Boeing needs to do "just" something like 757/767 again, in CFRP. Very efficient robust ai...
Jump to postMarket share is only important for forum enthusiasts, as long as your production is running at capacity and you are seeing acceptable margins. Neither of the two should have an interest to really start hurting each other, which is wise considering that new technologies are on the horizon and new com...
Jump to postI think at some point Airbus will launch a A320 replacement, slightly bigger than 737-8, with engine choice, container options, quiet spacey cabine and full A320/A321NEO commonality. But only after Boeing has fully commited itself to an NMA, starting around A321 size. https://lh3.googleusercontent....
Jump to postThe Max is selling well, what they need is something to disrupt the market and that is the NMA. The vision is a twin aisle family will be used for the NMA and NSA, delivering superior economics in both segments.
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